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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/43773200:13
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openstackgerritLi Yingjun proposed openstack/nova master: Error message should not include SQL command  https://review.openstack.org/43677300:20
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/43773200:51
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openstackgerritm4cr0v proposed openstack/nova master: Fix spice channel type  https://review.openstack.org/41007602:10
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Short circuit notifiations when not enabled  https://review.openstack.org/42826002:46
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danpawli1Good morning. Could you review my PS https://review.openstack.org/#/c/436953/ ? Please :008:19
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rcarrillocruzheya folks10:51
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rcarrillocruzi'm reviewing a PR for Ansible os_quota10:51
rcarrillocruzdidn't know there'sa 'floating-ips' quota on Nova10:52
rcarrillocruzbut there's also 'floatingip' in Neutron10:52
rcarrillocruzhow they are different10:52
rcarrillocruzare floating-ips only relevant when using nova-net ?10:52
rcarrillocruzmordred: ^ in regards to https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/2147110:53
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jaosoriorgibi: what's the way to configure the notification topic for the versioned notifications?11:02
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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: DNM: testing 1657585  https://review.openstack.org/43789813:30
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johnthetubaguyrcarrillocruz: basically the Nova one was there for nova-network, this may help with extra context: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/newton/implemented/deprecate-api-proxies.html#limits-and-quotas13:51
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gibijaosorior: hi! today it is hardcoded to 'versioned_notifications'14:01
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mriedemtakashin: i thought there was a spec for this in ocata? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407237/ or was that part of the abort cold migration spec and you split it out?14:03
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EmilienMsdague, mriedem: FYI https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/166767914:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1667679 in tripleo "Setting quota fails saying admin project is not a valid project" [High,Triaged]14:06
EmilienMhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/f6fbfc7ff07b790ef052a759552c69429b3d79c7 broke us14:06
takashinmriedem: It was a part of the abort cold migration spec and I split it out.14:06
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takashinmriedem: I proposed  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407237/ for Ocata, but it was not approved.14:08
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takashinmriedem: sorry, I proposed  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407237/ for Pike.14:09
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mriedemtakashin: ok yeah i remember talking about this in ocata so i thought there was a spec for it before14:11
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takashinmriedem: "List/Show all server migration types" was included in "Abort cold migration" spec at first. It is  PS 22 in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/334732/ .14:13
takashinmriedem: But I split it out to another spec.14:13
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mriedemEmilienM: does tripleo setup a keystone v3 endpoint in the service catalog?14:16
EmilienMmriedem: I'm pretty sure yes14:17
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mriedemwhere in the tripleo log haystack can i find the endpoints be created?14:17
EmilienMin our stackrc, we just don't force v3 because in the past ironic inspector didn't support v3 auth14:17
EmilienMmriedem: we're in design sessio now with my team, I need to focus on the session14:17
EmilienMmriedem: maybe we can meet face 2 face during the morning14:18
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EmilienMmriedem: http://logs.openstack.org/65/437365/3/check/gate-tripleo-ci-centos-7-nonha-multinode/bcbd374/logs/var/log/httpd/keystone_wsgi_main_access.txt.gz14:19
EmilienMwe enable v3 for sure14:19
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sdagueyeh, looking at it14:21
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sdagueEmilienM: I wonder if keystone isn't reacting as expected - https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/identity/v3/index.html?expanded=list-projects-detail#list-projects14:25
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sdagueactually - https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/identity/v3/index.html?expanded=show-project-details-detail#show-project-details14:25
mriedemtakashin: did you talk to vmware or xenapi virt driver people about abort cold migration?14:26
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mriedemto see if that was possible for them?14:26
sfinucantonyb: You know requirements stuff. Any chance you could explain why we need to install from upper-constraints [1] when we have an auto-generated requirements.txt file in-tree?14:28
sfinucan[1] https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/tox.ini#L1314:28
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tonybsfinucan: u-c.txt is our statement about testing and compatibilty it specifies the exact version as opposed to requiremenst which give you a range14:30
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openstackgerritChris Friesen proposed openstack/nova-specs master: add spec for instance flavor API  https://review.openstack.org/26528214:31
sfinucantonyb: and (test-)requirements.txt? I bumped the version for a package in there but the upper-constraints seemed to take priority. Seems like we shouldn't have anything in there that can be found upper-constraints?14:31
danpawli1Can someone take a look on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/436953/ ?14:32
sfinucan(the package in question was Sphinx. We ask for >=1.5.1 in test-requirements.txt but it's locked to 1.3.6 in upper-constraints)14:32
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openstackgerritManabu Ori proposed openstack/nova master: Not to skip schedulers when live migration is invoked from Horizon  https://review.openstack.org/43792114:33
tonybsfinucan: everything you have in *requirements.txt must come from global-requireemnts.txt which in turn means it is in upper-constratints.txt so you'll always get the version in upper-constraints.txt14:33
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tonybsfinucan: do you have a review I can look at?  but the bottom line is if you want to change *requirements.txt, right now, you need to do that in openstack/requirements.txt14:34
sfinucantonyb: Sure - one moments14:35
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Remove literal block  https://review.openstack.org/43792314:37
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Don't put comments inside toctree  https://review.openstack.org/43792414:37
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup namespaces in nova-config-generator.conf  https://review.openstack.org/43792514:37
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: setup.cfg: Add note to enable doc warnings  https://review.openstack.org/43792614:37
sfinucantonyb: ^ the last one of those is what I want to do14:37
tonybsfinucan: cool14:37
sfinucanI thought I could because we install deps from test-requirements.txt (https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/tox.ini#L18)14:38
sfinucan...which specifies a supported version of Sphinx (https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/test-requirements.txt#L17)14:38
sfinucanbut ultimately it's the upper-constraints version that we use, which leads me to think that line in test-requirements is worthless14:39
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tonybsfinucan: okay, that's strange14:40
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tonybsfinucan: okay so basically somehow the requirements repo is messed up  I'll go through the history to work out exactly how we got into that state14:42
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tonybbut the bottom line is that what you want to do should have been okay but $human messed up14:43
sfinucantonyb: So it wasn't just me :) OK, cool14:43
sfinucanIf you do fix it though, we might want to knock Sphinx down to 1.4 temporarily, because 1.5 is broken with the latest pbr https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430618/14:44
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openstackgerritJay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: placement: ironic inventory reporting  https://review.openstack.org/43760214:54
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jaypipescdent: hey, I'm getting the following error on the functional test I just added in ^ patch: http://paste.openstack.org/show/600383/14:55
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* cdent reads14:55
jaypipescdent: I got this when I created this functional test on the old nova/ironic patch but can't remember what I did to fix...14:55
jaypipescdent: any insight would be appreciated.14:55
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jaypipescdent: specifically, it's this test: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437602/2/nova/tests/functional/compute/test_resource_tracker.py14:56
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cdentjaypipes: it ended up not being a problem with wsgi_intercept, I think it was a missing keystone related mock14:56
jaypipescdent: yeah, can't remember though...14:56
jaypipescdent: oh, shit... I know what it might be.14:56
jaypipesI think we landed something yesterday that did a load_auth_from_conf() or something?14:56
gmannhttp://logs.openstack.org/98/437898/1/experimental/gate-tempest-dsvm-full-devstack-plugin-nfs-nv/fb81298/logs/tempest.txt.gz#_2017-02-24_14_00_57_33814:57
cdentjaypipes: yeah14:57
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mordredrcarrillocruz: oh wow. I'm super excited about that15:00
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smcginnisjaypipes: Any chance you might have a few minutes to give the Cinder team (and Manila representation) a quick overview of the long term plan for placement-api?15:00
jaypipessmcginnis: for sure.15:01
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jaypipessmcginnis: just wrapping up a little bug right now...15:01
jaypipessmcginnis: maybe in about 30 minutes?15:01
smcginnisjaypipes: We're in ATL 1-2 if you want to stop by when you have time.15:01
smcginnisjaypipes: Sounds great, thanks!15:01
jaypipessmcginnis: cool.15:01
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jaypipescdent: think I got it...15:02
jaypipescdent: all goes back to the scheduler_client vs. report_client thing....15:02
cdentnnnngh15:02
jaypipescdent: I'm setting RT.report_client instead of RT.scheduler_client15:02
jaypipescdent: yep, that was it.15:04
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mriedemsean-k-mooney: do you want to talk about accelerating sriov with dpdk?15:08
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mriedemralonsoh: are you at the PTG? if so, show up to the nova room (georgia 9) to talk about your sriov stuff15:09
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ralonsohI'm going now15:09
melwittdansmith: if the ClientRouter stuff isn't going to work, then I guess we'll need to revert https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326906 and then build upon the revert?15:11
dansmithmelwitt: I have a hack ready to push soon, but yeah, nearly a revert I think, but I will salvage some of what is there15:11
melwittokay15:12
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mriedemsfinucan: weren't you removing run_tests.sh from nova?15:17
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sfinucanmriedem: I did?15:17
mriedemi thought you had a patch while you were cleaning up the unused venv and colorizer stuff15:17
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mriedemsfinucan: nevermind then, someone was asking me about removing it15:18
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sfinucanmriedem: Yeah, I'm pretty certain I did that and they've merged15:21
* sfinucan looks15:21
sfinucanmriedem: Ah, no - I didn't do that one. I will https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:merged+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:feat/tools-cleanup15:21
bauzassfinucan: you did the change for having a specific tox target for osprofiler ?15:21
sfinucanbauzas: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437055/15:21
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bauzassfinucan: to be fair, we need a specific job in infra that would run that target as a Depends-On15:22
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sfinucanbauzas: Yeah, I wasn't sure if it would run automatically because I added it to the default targets or no15:24
mriedemsfinucan: i just told this person to deal with run_tests.sh15:24
mriedemsfinucan: so let them15:24
sfinucan(y)15:24
bauzassfinucan: I doubt we run UTs in the gate by calling tox without args :p15:25
sdagueEmilienM: I left some debugging comments in the trippleo bug, I think at this point we need a keystone person to help figure out what's coming back15:25
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openstackgerritRyan Rossiter proposed openstack/nova master: Remove run_tests.sh  https://review.openstack.org/43794715:27
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EmilienMsdague: ok thanks15:30
EmilienMmriedem, sdague: could we revisit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/428424/ please?15:30
sdagueEmilienM: there is also no user identity being logged in the logs for API calls, so it's hard to figure out what is happening15:30
EmilienMI think tripleo jobs bring good feedback15:30
rcarrillocruzjohnthetubaguy: oh, that for linking, that makes sense15:32
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sdagueEmilienM: I'm definitely -1 on per commit runs of that15:36
openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Reserve NUMA nodes with PCI devices attached  https://review.openstack.org/36446815:40
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EmilienMsdague: did you read the commit message,15:42
EmilienM?15:42
EmilienM"The theory here is that Nova devs are going to dig through these,"15:42
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EmilienMyou're wrong, if you read the commit message, I said the opposite15:43
EmilienM" The15:43
EmilienMjob would be non-voting for now, please don't ignore it and report15:43
EmilienMfailures on #tripleo or ping EmilienM on #openstack-nova. If nobody15:43
EmilienMreplies shortly or don't give feedback on the failure, you can ignore15:43
EmilienMit and move forward in your review process. Though we hope it can be15:43
EmilienMuseful to track some bugs."15:43
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sdagueEmilienM: right, you've said now nova devs are responsible to report issues back15:45
EmilienMsdague: in which room are you?15:45
sdagueI'm generally against all that kind of project linkage, we spent so much time decomposing that15:45
EmilienMsdague: let's talk about this thing face to face so we can find a solution15:46
sdagueEmilienM: the nova room. But you either get to have me actually figure out this keystone issue, or spend time not convincing me to agree to this15:46
sdagueso pick15:46
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jrollmriedem: y'all doing priorities/deadlines today?15:49
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mriedemjroll: maybe this afternoon15:51
mriedemwe're not even close to being done with topics15:51
jrollword, put ironic at the top for me. kthx.15:51
jrollI won't be here this afternoon, so will check the output, thank you :)15:52
mriedemjroll: ironic at the top of the nova priority list?15:52
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jrollmriedem: yep15:52
mriedemok done15:52
jroll\o/15:52
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mriedemkevinbenton: do you have a link to the etherpad for the nova/neutron/os-vif xp session that happened on tuesday?15:54
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nicodemus_hello16:01
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nicodemus_is it possible to create two AZs, one that points to the rotational disks of the computes and another that points to the SSD disks on the same compute nodes?16:02
nicodemus_Or should I have half the computes with SSD in one AZ, and the other half with spinning disks in another AZ?16:02
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bauzasnicodemus_: one host can be in two aggregates, but it can be exposed as only one AZ16:07
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nicodemus_bauzas, ok... so I should separate the disks among compute nodes, in order to have a single type ok disk per compute16:08
nicodemus_right?16:08
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Reserve NUMA nodes with PCI devices attached  https://review.openstack.org/36446816:09
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mriedemdansmith: jaypipes: we're going to start moving again on misc stuff16:20
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mriedemjroll: we're tlaking about virt and metal in the same region16:25
openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova master: Implement new attach/detach Cinder flow  https://review.openstack.org/33028516:26
openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova master: Remove check_attach  https://review.openstack.org/33535816:26
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openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova master: Implement new attach/detach Cinder flow  https://review.openstack.org/33028516:27
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openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova master: Remove check_attach  https://review.openstack.org/33535816:27
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kevinbentonmriedem: it's not clear to me there was one16:29
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kevinbentonmriedem: i came into the room an ianw was already talking about specs16:29
mriedemyeah i couldn't find anything16:30
kevinbentonmriedem: so i'm not sure if someone was capturing things in etherpads16:30
mriedemand by ianw you don't mean ianw16:30
mriedemyou mean ian wells :)16:30
kevinbentonwhoops16:30
kevinbentonijw: ^^16:30
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miss_hypothermiamriedem: I have a dumb question to the reno for remove check_attach16:38
mriedemshoot16:39
miss_hypothermiamriedem: into which section(s) should I put the notes on AZ config for unshelve and blocking the volume until deleting the instance in case of failure?16:39
mriedemi'm thinking 'other'16:40
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miss_hypothermiamriedem: ok, thanks16:42
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ijwkevinbenton, mriedem: what have I done now?16:56
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mriedemijw: were there notes from the nova/neutron os-vif xp session on tuesday?16:58
mriedemdid you have an etherpad?16:58
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efriedWhat would be the appropriate channel on which to discuss the current devstack borkage affecting CI?17:01
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mriedemefried: probably #openstack-qa17:03
efriedmriedem Thanks.17:03
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openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova master: Implement new attach/detach Cinder flow  https://review.openstack.org/33028517:07
openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova master: Remove check_attach  https://review.openstack.org/33535817:07
sdagueEmilienM: as best I can decypher the endpoint for identity looks wrong17:10
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sdagueI've left a bunch of debugging comments inside the bug17:10
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EmilienMsdague: ok, looking. Thanks17:15
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EmilienMsdague: you're right, endpoints points to v2.017:17
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EmilienMsdague: while I'm going to update tripleo to use v3 endpoint in our catalog, we need to acknoledge that your patch broke all deployments with keystone v2.0 endpooint and maybe consider a patch in Nova to accept v2 endpoint.17:18
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openstackgerritAnusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova master: fix admin context scenarios for cinderclient  https://review.openstack.org/38479917:37
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Fix doc generation warnings  https://review.openstack.org/42554917:43
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make compute/api instance get set target cell on context  https://review.openstack.org/43735517:58
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Target cell in conductor cold migrate  https://review.openstack.org/43802217:58
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: HACK up the mq targeting to only honor what is in the context  https://review.openstack.org/43802317:58
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add cell field to Destination object  https://review.openstack.org/43802417:58
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Make conductor ask scheduler to limit migrates to same cell  https://review.openstack.org/43802517:58
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johnthetubaguymiss_hypothermia I guess its not just our room that is a bit cold today18:02
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miss_hypothermiajohnthetubaguy: I was suffering yesterday too, but today is worse18:03
miss_hypothermiajohnthetubaguy: I'm using people's hot cup of coffee as hand warmer... :)18:04
johnthetubaguymiss_hypothermia: good call this coffee is helping a touch18:05
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melwittdansmith: those changes look clean, pleasantly surprising18:09
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miss_hypothermiajohnthetubaguy: :)18:21
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openstackgerritJay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: placement: ironic inventory reporting  https://review.openstack.org/43760218:30
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EmilienMsdague: I think you didn't see my irc message here but while I'm going to update tripleo to use v3 endpoint in our catalog, we need to acknoledge that your patch broke all deployments with keystone v2.0 endpooint and maybe consider a patch in Nova to accept v2 endpoint18:32
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ijwmriedem: You talk like I had anything to do with it - I was just trying to get a few things by before the Nova peeps turned up18:50
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ijwmriedem: but I'll see if Kevin knows anything and write up the details.  It amounted to 'we'll do os-vif first'18:50
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mriedemEmilienM: that came up in the review and the assertion was keystone v2 has been deprecated since mitaka so by pike people should be running keystone v3 at least, if not both18:52
EmilienMmriedem: and I agree18:53
EmilienMmriedem: but nothing says v2 is prohibited18:53
EmilienMI don't see any release note in Nova that says "do not install nova with keystone v2 endpoints", or I missed it18:54
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mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/435010/13/nova/api/openstack/identity.py@40 doesn't mean you can't have v218:55
mriedemit means you need v318:55
mriedembut i also don't know why whatever error is in ^ is not handled by that try/except18:55
mriedem"# something is wrong, like there isn't a keystone v3 endpoint,"18:55
mriedemso tripleo has a v3 endpoint but it's wrong?18:56
mriedemi don't know the latest on what the actual break is18:56
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EmilienMmriedem: tripleo undercloud has keystone endpoints pointing to v2.0, I'm fixing it now18:56
EmilienMmriedem: to be versionless18:56
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oomichidansmith: can you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425958 ? I could not +2 before you19:03
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova master: Generate log error message if keystone looks funny  https://review.openstack.org/43804919:04
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sdagueEmilienM: I do agree that we should be nicer to the operator to explain things19:05
sdaguethat's the patch above19:05
EmilienMI have been testing tripleo with v3 endpoint and it seems to work19:05
EmilienMour overcloud runs v3 by default19:05
EmilienMso our case might be fixed by tonight19:05
sdagueBut pointing identity endpoint to /v2.0 actually means that no other clients besides keystoneclient can work with v319:05
EmilienMbut I'm wondering if other operators hit it19:05
sdagueEmilienM: right, I just added and upgrade release note about that19:06
EmilienMsdague: ok. thx19:07
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: handle uninited fields in notification payload  https://review.openstack.org/41585719:07
satyarHi everyone19:07
satyari am running the trunk19:07
satyarit seems when VM goes to error the VCPU is not cleaning up after deletion of VM19:08
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satyaranyone aware of this issue?19:08
gibijaypipes: I updated the flavor.projects lazy load patch based on our today's discussion https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415857/19:09
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openstackgerritJay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: placement: ironic inventory reporting  https://review.openstack.org/43760219:11
jaypipesgibi: awesome, thanks!19:11
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: handle uninited fields in notification payload  https://review.openstack.org/41585719:14
* sfinucan just found out that Gerrit 500s if you include non-ascii characters in a comment 🙈19:15
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: setup.cfg: Add note to enable doc warnings  https://review.openstack.org/43792619:17
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Don't put comments inside toctree  https://review.openstack.org/43792419:17
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sfinucanjohnthetubaguy, mriedem: typos fixed on the PCI weigher spec :) https://review.openstack.org/36446819:21
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jaypipesgibi: reviewed... perhaps we need to chat about it.19:27
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jaypipesgibi: I was under the impression that all instance notifications >= 1.3 object version would have the flavor.projects attribute set to null, not []...19:28
jaypipesgibi: to indicate that the attribute is not set (versus that there are 0 projects the flavor is "shared with")19:28
mriedemsfinucan: questions inline19:30
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sfinucanmriedem: (y)19:30
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dansmithjbernard: are you still around?19:36
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jaypipesgibi: melwitt's also added a good question in that patch19:45
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jbernarddansmith: i am19:50
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova master: Generate log error message if keystone looks funny  https://review.openstack.org/43804920:03
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gibijaypipes, melwitt: thanks for the reviews. I'm working on to answer / fix your comments20:07
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melwittsean-k-mooney: is this it? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183876/20:42
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openstackgerritChris Friesen proposed openstack/nova master: show flavor info in server details  https://review.openstack.org/43451420:44
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: handle uninited fields in notification payload  https://review.openstack.org/41585720:56
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: handle uninited fields in notification payload  https://review.openstack.org/41585721:00
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: handle uninited fields in notification payload  https://review.openstack.org/41585721:04
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efriedmriedem: Per PTG feedback, I'm working on splitting up the first PowerVM driver change set.  Do y'all have a preference for whether the topmost one is still 391288 (thus preserving its history and 36 patch sets) or a fresh new one?21:08
efriedJust a matter of git paperwork, so no biggie either way to me.21:09
mriedemefried: topmost as in the one that should be passing CI?21:09
efriedright21:09
mriedemthat works21:09
efriedwhich?21:09
mriedemwhatever you love21:09
mriedemas long as it's in the series, either first or the one that's passing21:10
efried:) roger wilco.  Thanks.21:10
mriedemjust don't drop it b/c then we lose the history21:10
efriedAh, okay, that answers my question.21:10
efried(Oh, I see, you're saying I can slot it anywhere in the series, but it should stay in the series.)21:11
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Fix typo in config drive support matrix docs  https://review.openstack.org/43808421:30
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diana_clarkeLOL, recognize this code anyone? https://twitter.com/redhatway/status/834855421500354561 I wonder who picked this snippet.21:32
diana_clarkesomeone should port that water bottle to mock21:32
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cdentdiana_clarke++21:33
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mriedemha21:41
mriedemthat's not py35 compliant21:41
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NostawRmAny reason there's no option for backups for differential backups for nova/ceph like there is with cinder/ceph other than no one has done it?22:23
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openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: PowerVM Driver: spawn/delete #1: no-ops  https://review.openstack.org/43811923:33
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openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: PowerVM Driver: spawn/delete #1: no-ops  https://review.openstack.org/43811923:40
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efriedmikal ^^ 362LOC!  And here's a thing: it _might_ actually pass jenkins/CI.23:54
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