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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/pike: Allow setting up multiple cells in the base TestCase https://review.openstack.org/501818 | 00:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/pike: Make ConductorTaskTestCase run with 2 cells https://review.openstack.org/501819 | 00:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Enable cold migration with target host https://review.openstack.org/489031 | 00:50 |
openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: List/show all server migration types (2/2) https://review.openstack.org/459483 | 00:52 |
openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Microversion 2.54 - List/Show all server migration types https://review.openstack.org/430839 | 00:52 |
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openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed openstack/nova master: Correct the out-of-date flavor doc reference https://review.openstack.org/501921 | 01:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Fix broken URLs https://review.openstack.org/501402 | 02:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Shunli Zhou proposed openstack/nova master: Transform servergroup.create notification https://review.openstack.org/454023 | 02:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Philip Choi proposed openstack/nova master: Add warning message for cache_utils connection failure https://review.openstack.org/501928 | 02:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Philip Choi proposed openstack/nova master: Add warning message for cache_utils connection failure https://review.openstack.org/501928 | 02:56 |
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openstackgerrit | kangyufei proposed openstack/nova master: Typo error about help resource_classes.inc https://review.openstack.org/501930 | 03:04 |
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mnaser | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike+topic:bug/1715462 -- everything is finally passing, appreciate a review from anyone on the stable team to get this pike bug fixed :> | 03:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Remove two testing stubs which aren't really needed. https://review.openstack.org/501939 | 03:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Enable cold migration with target host(1/2) https://review.openstack.org/408955 | 03:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup unused get_iscsi_initiator. https://review.openstack.org/501944 | 04:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Enable cold migration with target host(2/2) https://review.openstack.org/408964 | 05:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Microversion 2.54 - Enable cold migration with target host https://review.openstack.org/406707 | 05:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: Add parameters in cold migrate action https://review.openstack.org/410042 | 06:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Abort Cold Migration https://review.openstack.org/334732 | 06:49 |
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jsheeren | hi all, i'm curious as to why no special characaters like a dot (.) are allowed for the ssh keypair names | 08:19 |
jsheeren | if i check the code: safe_chars = "_- " + string.digits + string.ascii_letters | 08:19 |
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jsheeren | does anyone have an idea as to why? | 08:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Hironori Shiina proposed openstack/nova master: virt/ironic: Implement rescue and unrescue https://review.openstack.org/416487 | 08:29 |
bauwser | jsheeren: here, I'm just guessing, but if you look at https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/ec0a65d81fd11d26be77b45827a4dd7c77711675 it seems that's because AWS was only accepting that | 08:34 |
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bauwser | since we did cut the EC2 API previously, I don't think it's still a problem | 08:35 |
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ygl | hi all | 08:49 |
ygl | i need some help | 08:49 |
openstackgerrit | Rick van de Loo proposed openstack/nova master: Allow dots in keypair filenames https://review.openstack.org/502000 | 08:49 |
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jsheeren | bauwser: thanks, Rick proposed a patch that fixes our issue. :-) | 08:59 |
bauwser | jsheeren: you can't do that directly, you'll require an API microversion | 08:59 |
jsheeren | ah | 09:00 |
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bauwser | jsheeren: I'll provide some comments to that, but the fix will require a Nova spec that will desribe the API change as we need to keep a consistent behaviour for our API | 09:00 |
jsheeren | ok, thanks | 09:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Fix the ocata config-reference URLs https://review.openstack.org/502017 | 09:35 |
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stephenfin | bauwser, gibi: Could you folks look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501342/, please? | 10:43 |
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Our CI systems experience a hickup, no new jobs are started. Please stay tuned and wait untils this resolved. | 10:47 | |
gibi | stephenfin: looking... | 10:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Chenghui Yu proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Fix usage of method isotime https://review.openstack.org/502043 | 11:06 |
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gibi | stephenfin: I left some comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501342/ | 11:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: reno: note that custom resources are not supported https://review.openstack.org/500521 | 11:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Elod Illes proposed openstack/nova master: Transform aggregate.add_host notification https://review.openstack.org/396210 | 12:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Lajos Katona proposed openstack/nova master: Extend ServerMovingTests with custom resources https://review.openstack.org/497399 | 12:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Transform servergroup.delete notification https://review.openstack.org/483902 | 12:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Transform servergroup.delete notification https://review.openstack.org/483902 | 13:01 |
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mriedem | sdague: you want to take a gander at this osc-placement plugin post_test_hook change to run functional dsvm tests? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452122/ - it's modeled after the one in novaclient, with a couple of odd differences for env vars which i don't quite follow, but don't seem to be a problem either | 13:09 |
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sdague | mriedem: +A | 13:09 |
mriedem | are you core on project-config? | 13:10 |
sdague | yes | 13:10 |
mriedem | well do i have a deal for you | 13:10 |
sdague | :) | 13:10 |
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mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501884/ | 13:10 |
mriedem | moves that functional job from experimental to non-voting check | 13:10 |
sdague | cool | 13:10 |
sdague | now, we just need zuul to come back online | 13:10 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova master: fake_notifier: Refactor wait_for_versioned_notification https://review.openstack.org/489637 | 13:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.resize.error notifications https://review.openstack.org/417882 | 13:16 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Add documentation for emulator_thread_policy https://review.openstack.org/501721 | 13:20 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Split flavors docs into admin and user guides https://review.openstack.org/501342 | 13:20 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Add documentation for cpu_realtime, cpu_realtime_mask https://review.openstack.org/502056 | 13:20 |
stephenfin | gibi: All good point. Addressed above ^ | 13:21 |
stephenfin | tbh, that whole section needs a thorough looking over. I'll do it after the PTG but this is a good start | 13:22 |
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gibi | stephenfin: totally agree. this is a good start so I'm +2 | 13:27 |
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stephenfin | Excellent, thanks gibi :) | 13:29 |
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mriedem | johnthetubaguy: policy question on scope checking, | 13:37 |
mriedem | this is something that continues to confuse me about whether or not non-admins can see extra specs for a flavor | 13:37 |
mriedem | default policy is admin or owner | 13:37 |
mriedem | "os_compute_api:os-flavor-extra-specs:index": "rule:admin_or_owner" | 13:37 |
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mriedem | but when we check the scope, we don't pass the flavor in, and the flavor doesn't have a user_id/project_id (owner) anyway | 13:38 |
mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/flavors_extraspecs.py#L53 | 13:38 |
mriedem | so it's unclear to me if a non-admin can by default view flavor extra specs | 13:38 |
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johnthetubaguy | mriedem: just reading back your note | 13:43 |
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johnthetubaguy | mriedem: we have a default target of {project_id: context.project_id, user_id:context.user_id}, basically making the scope check a no op | 13:44 |
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johnthetubaguy | mriedem: well my no-op I mean always returns true | 13:45 |
johnthetubaguy | s/my/by/ | 13:45 |
mriedem | ok so basically anyone can view flavor extra specs by default | 13:45 |
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johnthetubaguy | mriedem: it seems that way, I am just checking the DB code | 13:47 |
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johnthetubaguy | mriedem: it looks like we join extra_specs for everyone here: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api.py#L5017 | 13:48 |
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mriedem | yup | 13:49 |
mriedem | well, if the flavor is in a cell still, but yeah | 13:49 |
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mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/flavor.py#L295 is the new hotness | 13:49 |
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johnthetubaguy | mriedem: oh right, we only hit the other for the unmigrated (probably no one) case | 13:50 |
mriedem | yeah we can remove that old compat now https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460377/ | 13:50 |
mriedem | but anyway, that answers my question | 13:50 |
johnthetubaguy | I see what you did there | 13:51 |
mriedem | :) | 13:51 |
mriedem | it was not subtle | 13:51 |
johnthetubaguy | effective though | 13:51 |
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mriedem | i'm getting some questions about extra specs vs scheduler hints and thinking about things like what is discoverable etc | 13:51 |
mriedem | and now that i think about it, we really have no discoverable way for an end user to know what scheduler hints are available in a nova installation do we | 13:52 |
johnthetubaguy | I know sfinucan once expressed and interest doing an image meta like thing for extra specs | 13:52 |
mriedem | i assume we have just always relied on clouds to document what they support for scheduler hints | 13:52 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/osc-placement master: tests: add a hook for functional testing in the gate https://review.openstack.org/452122 | 13:52 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah, we did talk about getting alaski to look at a way to discover available scheduler hints, so we could do API validation on them | 13:53 |
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mriedem | we == rackspace? | 13:53 |
johnthetubaguy | like have filters and weights register what they support, etc | 13:53 |
johnthetubaguy | we as in upstream years ago | 13:53 |
johnthetubaguy | in some summit session | 13:53 |
mriedem | ok | 13:53 |
mriedem | we have https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/schemas/scheduler_hints.py | 13:53 |
mriedem | but the hints in there might not be enabled in the filters, | 13:54 |
mikal | Do I really have to get up? Or can I just go back to bed? | 13:54 |
mriedem | and you can load your own | 13:54 |
mriedem | mikal: just work from bed | 13:54 |
johnthetubaguy | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/schemas/scheduler_hints.py#L67 | 13:54 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah | 13:54 |
mriedem | like a monarch | 13:54 |
mriedem | king mikal | 13:54 |
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mikal | mriedem: I can't. I have to go to a big room in the urine district and call people liars | 13:55 |
mikal | mriedem: its a community service that I offer | 13:55 |
mriedem | so you're going to go yell at people in a public bathroom? | 13:56 |
mriedem | i'm unclear on what australians refer to as "the urine district" | 13:56 |
mikal | mriedem: the urine district is a region of San Francisco | 13:56 |
mikal | mriedem: most of the city as best as I can tell | 13:56 |
mriedem | oh i see | 13:56 |
mriedem | that's less interesting | 13:56 |
johnthetubaguy | I remember a smell there, but I just hoped it was chlorine in the water with lots of water sprinkler or something | 13:57 |
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mikal | johnthetubaguy: ummm, no | 13:58 |
mikal | johnthetubaguy: also, don't ask why the BART escalators don't work, and definitely don't touch them | 13:58 |
johnthetubaguy | mikal: ...true | 13:58 |
stephenfin | Yay, johnthetubaguy is back | 13:58 |
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mikal | johnthetubaguy: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Human-waste-shuts-down-BART-escalators-3735981.php | 13:58 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah, I am around, now an then :) | 13:59 |
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gibi | bauwser: you were +2 on this patch before, do you still like it? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498596 | 14:01 |
sdague | johnthetubaguy: the discoverable bit there was kicked around | 14:01 |
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sdague | but it was all a concept conversation | 14:01 |
bauwser | gibi: sure, I just have a shit of paperwork coming in litterally by the day before I'm traveling to the PTG, yay \o/ | 14:01 |
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johnthetubaguy | sdague: that sounds right | 14:02 |
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gibi | bauwser: sorry to hear that. Don't worry about that patch now. I can ping you during the PTG | 14:03 |
bauwser | gibi: no, I just briefly reviewed it, +Wd | 14:03 |
bauwser | the modifications weren't that huge | 14:03 |
boolman | when booting a nova instance and not specifying the volume, should nova then create a volume based on the flavor and image_type ? | 14:03 |
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mriedem | gdi our docs search is terrible now | 14:05 |
mriedem | searching for "flavor extra specs" in docs.o.o mostly gives you forum questions now | 14:06 |
johnthetubaguy | eek | 14:06 |
gibi | bauwser: thanks! | 14:06 |
bauwser | mriedem: you already pointed that out in a ML thread, right? | 14:06 |
bauwser | no answer yet ? | 14:06 |
bauwser | (AFAICR) | 14:06 |
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mriedem | bauwser: yes, and sdague started something to define an in-scope search vs a global search | 14:07 |
mriedem | in-scope meaning, within *these* docs | 14:07 |
bauwser | k | 14:07 |
mriedem | like the nova docs | 14:07 |
johnthetubaguy | boolman: I think you want #openstack, but look at https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/#create-server and "block_device_mapping_v2.destination_type" basically we only create volumes when requested directly, AFAIK | 14:07 |
bauwser | yeah, looks a good idea :) | 14:07 |
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sdague | mriedem: that was merged, I don't know if it was released yet | 14:08 |
boolman | johnthetubaguy: ye sry, I read #topic after I posted. | 14:09 |
johnthetubaguy | boolman: no worries | 14:09 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Set regex flag on ostestr command for osprofiler tests https://review.openstack.org/501842 | 14:10 |
mriedem | there are two things wrong with the note at the top of this page https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/admin/flavors.html | 14:13 |
mriedem | 1. wrong policy rule now | 14:14 |
mriedem | 2. the horizon thing was changed in pike i think | 14:14 |
mriedem | robcresswell: ^ for "The Dashboard simulates the ability to modify a flavor by deleting an existing flavor and creating a new one with the same name." what exactly does horizon do now? just warn you? or does it not allow you to 'edit' a flavor that is tied to an instance? | 14:14 |
mriedem | ah https://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/horizon/pike.html#upgrade-notes | 14:15 |
johnthetubaguy | mriedem: wow, there is a lot more documented there than I expected to see | 14:15 |
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mriedem | "The ability to edit flavors is disabled by default. See ENABLE_FLAVOR_EDIT in the settings documentation for more information." | 14:15 |
stephenfin | mriedem: Seeing as you're looking at that file, want to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501342/2 | 14:17 |
sdague | TheJulia / dtantsur: this working as designed - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1715646 - or a real bug | 14:17 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1715646 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Compute host for ironic is not mapped to a cell if no ironic node is created" [Undecided,New] | 14:17 |
stephenfin | This is the first step. I'm happy to clean that item above as a follow up | 14:17 |
dtantsur | sdague: it's a bug, and I thought dansmith fixed it some time ago.. | 14:18 |
stephenfin | johnthetubaguy: Unfortunately a lot of it is wrong :( especially the stuff around extra_specs | 14:18 |
johnthetubaguy | stephenfin: joys | 14:18 |
stephenfin | I've trying to clean both that, and the specs I'm having to review for background info, this week | 14:19 |
sdague | dtantsur: you able to ask enough questions on that bug to figure out what is going on? | 14:19 |
dansmith | dtantsur: sdague: It's working as designed, we can't put compute node records in without anything reported from ironic.. that's a fundamental thing | 14:19 |
stephenfin | Extra specs suuuuuuuck | 14:19 |
sdague | dansmith: ok | 14:19 |
dtantsur | dansmith: except that it creates a horrible user experience | 14:19 |
dansmith | sdague: we write 1:1 ironic node reported from ironic into the compute nodes table.. if zero are reported (or we can't do the list) then we have nothing to write | 14:19 |
dansmith | sdague: there is a periodic task you can enable on scheduler that will run discovery every once in a while, which is a workaround | 14:20 |
dansmith | dtantsur: I dunno what to say.. I can't report things I don't know are there | 14:20 |
sdague | dansmith: ok, cool, I'll close as working as designed | 14:20 |
dtantsur | then we have to document this periodic task a mandatory for ironic.. | 14:20 |
dtantsur | s/a/as/ | 14:20 |
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dtantsur | dansmith: https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/62878ef5a6c9f6a2c727c91397830387425c4d37 | 14:22 |
dtantsur | isn't it fixing precisely that? | 14:23 |
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dtantsur | hmm, maybe not actually | 14:24 |
openstackgerrit | Elod Illes proposed openstack/nova master: Transform aggregate.remove_host notification https://review.openstack.org/396211 | 14:24 |
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dtantsur | dansmith: this means that we should either document running nova-manage after adding every ironic node/bulk of nodes or document using this periodic task, right? | 14:25 |
mriedem | stephenfin: "What flavors are why they are used."? | 14:25 |
stephenfin | *and | 14:27 |
stephenfin | damn | 14:27 |
stephenfin | *What are flavors and why are they used | 14:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Typo error about help resource_classes.inc https://review.openstack.org/501930 | 14:28 |
mriedem | inspur is going on a spell check tear i've noticed recently | 14:29 |
mriedem | ^ | 14:29 |
mriedem | that's the 2nd patch i've seen from the same company for the same typo | 14:29 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Split flavors docs into admin and user guides https://review.openstack.org/501342 | 14:30 |
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mriedem | who wants to get these other two stable/pike high severity fixes? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1715462+branch:stable/pike | 14:31 |
sdague | looking | 14:31 |
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sdague | mriedem: +2 on both of those | 14:32 |
mriedem | thanks | 14:32 |
mriedem | gibi: i think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/500521/ might be better in some kind of 'limitations' doc | 14:32 |
mriedem | gibi: the ironic and fgpa thing was noted in the spec as an example, but so was shared IP allocation pools in the original resource providers spec back in i think mitaka | 14:33 |
mriedem | those are just examples, not declarations of what we support today | 14:33 |
gibi | mriedem: but we don't have limitation doc I assume | 14:34 |
mriedem | gibi: no, but that's easy to change | 14:35 |
gibi | mriedem: but I understand that release notes are not the good place either | 14:35 |
mriedem | gibi: i left some comments in the patch with more detailed thoughts | 14:35 |
mriedem | i think we could fit something in here https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/placement.html | 14:35 |
mriedem | we have overview, deployment, upgrade notes (per release), and REST API microversion history, we could also have a Limitations section | 14:36 |
gibi | mriedem: I like this idea | 14:36 |
mriedem | i like that you like this idea | 14:36 |
gibi | mriedem: I will try type up a patch during my flight tomorrow | 14:37 |
mriedem | cool, thanks | 14:38 |
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gibi | thanks for the feedback | 14:38 |
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gibi | mriedem: also thanks for the ML reply on my notification question, elod will start working on adding the new interface_attach notification next week | 14:40 |
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mriedem | \o/ | 14:43 |
gibi | I'm logging off for the weekend. See you in Denver | 14:44 |
mriedem | have a good one | 14:44 |
gibi | thanks | 14:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Move hash ring initialization to init_host() for ironic https://review.openstack.org/502082 | 14:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Fix AZ related API docs https://review.openstack.org/456655 | 15:03 |
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sdague | stephenfin: I think you dropped a word - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456655 | 15:11 |
sdague | after that, +2 | 15:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Fix AZ related API docs https://review.openstack.org/456655 | 15:12 |
stephenfin | sdague: Second time I've done that today :( Done | 15:12 |
sdague | +2 | 15:12 |
stephenfin | ta | 15:12 |
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mriedem | stephenfin: couple nits inline there | 15:16 |
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mriedem | "Typically, you use availability zones to arrange OpenStack compute hosts into logical groups." | 15:17 |
mriedem | you (the end user?) doesn't actually arrange the compute hosts | 15:17 |
mriedem | the admin does that with host aggregates | 15:17 |
mriedem | and labels them with AZs that the end user (non-admin) can then use for isolation | 15:17 |
mriedem | but maybe i'm splitting hairs | 15:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Fix AZ related API docs https://review.openstack.org/456655 | 15:22 |
stephenfin | mriedem: I agree, and I think I've addressed it | 15:22 |
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mriedem | cool, +2 | 15:27 |
mikal | sdague: can I get a +W on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472229/ please? It has two +2's but the +W fell off when we went around a corner too fast. | 15:28 |
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sdague | mikal: done | 15:31 |
mikal | Ta | 15:31 |
sdague | mikal: so, is there actually a privsep discussion area somewhere carved out yet for PTG? | 15:32 |
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mriedem | it's in the etherpad | 15:36 |
mriedem | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-queens | 15:36 |
mriedem | i don't have a specific time slotted for that | 15:36 |
sdague | mriedem: right, it's on the big list, but not with a timeslot | 15:36 |
sdague | I was also wondering if it was in the class of things to have mon/tues time somewhere | 15:37 |
sdague | mostly to get folks more introduced to the idea | 15:37 |
mriedem | it's not in the mon/tues xp stuff as far as i know | 15:37 |
mriedem | unless mikal is driving that | 15:37 |
mriedem | friday is the default timeslot for 'everything else' | 15:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Rework man pages https://review.openstack.org/502105 | 15:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Rename cellsv2_layout -> cellsv2-layout https://review.openstack.org/498821 | 15:50 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: WIP! doc: Add contents page https://review.openstack.org/498820 | 15:50 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Cleanup of existing index pages https://review.openstack.org/498819 | 15:50 |
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mikal | dansmith: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/opendev-sf-use-cases | 15:57 |
mikal | mriedem / sdague: I had expected it to be scheduled in the nova thing, but that doesn't seem to have happened | 15:58 |
mikal | I kind of feel like we should do our thing this release, and then push it out to others next release | 15:59 |
mriedem | ok i still need to carve up the placement stuff into slots | 16:01 |
sdague | mikal: that's fine, it does seem like if there were interested parties on Tues afternoon or something to gather and do some bootstrapping | 16:01 |
sdague | it feels like one of those things that's enough of a shift some bootstrapping on what's going on, and good patterns, would be useful | 16:01 |
mriedem | i have moved some of the placement stuff to it's own etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-queens-placement | 16:02 |
mriedem | i think we're going to do the high priority stuff in the 2 hour slot on wed afternoon | 16:02 |
mriedem | and then bump the other new stuff for placement to thursday afternoon after neutron | 16:02 |
mriedem | plus whatever else to friday | 16:02 |
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mriedem | mikal: maybe we do privsep at 4 on wednesday | 16:05 |
mriedem | after everyone is exhausted | 16:05 |
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sdague | less exhausted than friday | 16:06 |
sdague | we might be able to complete sentences | 16:07 |
cdent | . | 16:07 |
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* stephenfin is outta here. See everyone in Denver o/ | 16:09 | |
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alaski | johnthetubaguy: mriedem I vaguely recall some brief discussions with bauwser about discovering scheduler hints. I was mostly taking the stance that codfying the API schema for scheduler hints was silly because there was no correlation between what the API allows and what the deployment allowed. | 16:10 |
openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: doc: fix flavor notes https://review.openstack.org/502112 | 16:10 |
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mriedem | alaski: i was mostly thinking about a GET /scheduler_hints or something that just listed what was available with a description | 16:11 |
mriedem | but that's really config-driven api | 16:11 |
mriedem | based on the enabled scheduler filters | 16:11 |
mriedem | but at least it's an api | 16:11 |
alaski | yeah, it would be a start | 16:12 |
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mriedem | otherwise all mordred has to rely on is docs per cloud | 16:12 |
alaski | yep, and those are always up to date and accurate | 16:12 |
cdent | I suppose it is a step in the right direction if it is deemed impossible to leapfrog to some kind of generic capabilities thing | 16:12 |
mordred | mriedem: in fact, I generally don't have docs per cloud to depend on | 16:12 |
mordred | mriedem: and have to figure things out by trial and error, then writing a config setting and doc for the feature so other people don't have to trial and error | 16:13 |
mordred | cdent: I'd very much like to chat next week about cloud profiles, version discovery and general capabilities things | 16:14 |
mikal | mriedem: I live to obey | 16:15 |
mikal | mriedem: it would be good to explain the underlying ideas to core so that they know what to look for | 16:15 |
cdent | mordred: cool. we put it on the api room etherpad, so it is a known topic but I suspect we’ll have to chat about it multiple times to get all the right people | 16:15 |
mikal | mriedem: but it is my pleasure to serve and you can just wake me up from my nap whenever you need me | 16:15 |
mikal | Us funemployed bums only go to sessions which look personally interesting | 16:16 |
mikal | Or have snacks | 16:16 |
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alaski | The issue as I saw it is that the scheduler was extensible, but that extensibility had ramifications on the API. So there was no way, given what was in place, to enforce uniformity across deployments. e.g. cloudA could have an 'affinity' hint and cloudB could have a 'closeness' hint that meant the same thing, or two cloud could have an 'affinity' hint that meant different things. | 16:16 |
alaski | Discovery of what is available is a big help, but there's a second layer issue of understanding what the discovered capability actually means | 16:17 |
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mriedem | alaski: yeah, exactly | 16:18 |
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mriedem | so you can maybe write something that understands how the common hints in nova work, and then at least check if they are available in cloud A and B (which are your preferred clouds in this case), | 16:19 |
mriedem | and then if you also know that cloud B has this other "fancy" hint, you can use that if it's available, otherwise you dont | 16:19 |
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alaski | yeah. Understanding and discovering in-tree hints would be a huge boon. And then discovery of "custom" hints would be a nice addition for those who understand what they mean | 16:22 |
mriedem | sean-k-mooney: i could have sworn you had something about bandwidth-based scheduling in the nova ptg etherpad, linking to the neutron spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396297/ | 16:24 |
mriedem | but i can't find it now | 16:24 |
mriedem | oh it's in here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-queens-generic-device-management | 16:24 |
cdent | the etherpad that consumes all topics | 16:25 |
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mriedem | yeah no crap | 16:27 |
mriedem | some of that is going to be during the neutron slot | 16:27 |
mriedem | otherwise friday morning probably | 16:27 |
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tonygunk | softball question: I recently changed to shared nfs for /var/lib/nova/instances on compute nodes for live migration. Getting this error and want to know where to look: | 16:39 |
tonygunk | http://paste.openstack.org/raw/620738/ | 16:39 |
tonygunk | nova.compute.manager Stderr: u'qemu-img: Could not open \'/var/lib/nova/instances/b1b9c5c9-da00-4b2c-bc11-784c0da18b32/disk\': Failed to get shared "write" lock | 16:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Allow multi-attach in compute api https://review.openstack.org/271047 | 16:40 |
openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Allow multiple volume attachments https://review.openstack.org/267587 | 16:40 |
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cdent | tonygunk: are you sure you have all your necessary daemons running? I can’t remember the details on linux, but maybe rpc.lockd? | 16:44 |
cdent | or rpc.statd | 16:44 |
tonygunk | I'll look into that thanks | 16:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor ServerMovingTests for non-move tests https://review.openstack.org/498596 | 16:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova master: Automatically revert resize which fails on destination https://review.openstack.org/462521 | 17:00 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova master: Ensure errors_out_migration errors out migration https://review.openstack.org/479802 | 17:00 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova master: Use Migration object in ComputeManagerMigrationTestCase https://review.openstack.org/502126 | 17:00 |
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tonygunk | all daemons running fine on nfs server | 17:15 |
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cdent | tonygunk: I’m not certain but I think you need some of it on the client too, but my info may be out of date | 17:18 |
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mriedem | huh, horizon has a page for selecting scheduling hints when creating a vm | 17:59 |
mriedem | so i guess that must be plugged into the dashboard config somewhere | 17:59 |
mriedem | the fun things i find when i use horizon once per year | 18:00 |
cburgess | mriedem It comes from glance. | 18:00 |
mriedem | cburgess: scheduler hints? | 18:00 |
mriedem | you mean image meta? | 18:00 |
cburgess | mriedem Yeah... there is some facility in glance now to load up a bunch of arbitrary metadata that horizon then pulls to display all that. | 18:00 |
cburgess | Let me find it... | 18:01 |
mriedem | yes i know about that | 18:01 |
mriedem | this isn't that | 18:01 |
mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/glance/tree/master/etc/metadefs | 18:01 |
mriedem | ^ is the glance image meta stuff | 18:01 |
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cburgess | mriedem You sure horizon isn't just pulling data from there for the scheduler hits as well? | 18:01 |
mriedem | glance image meta has nothing to do with scheduler hints in nova | 18:02 |
cburgess | mriedem I know that.. glance metaref has nothing to do with nova at all. YOu can load any arbittary thin you want. But its how horizon populates all those fancy pull downs. | 18:02 |
mriedem | chet, who is on first? | 18:02 |
cburgess | mriedem LOL | 18:03 |
cburgess | Fair | 18:03 |
cburgess | mriedem I haven't used horizon in a while either.. what panel is that being displayed in? | 18:03 |
mriedem | there is a scheduler hints sub-panel during 'launch instance'o | 18:04 |
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mriedem | it's empty | 18:04 |
mriedem | so it must be something an admin can configure in horizon | 18:04 |
cburgess | mriedem I see glance metarefs that have a type association of OS::Nova::Server and a target of "scheduler_hint". | 18:07 |
cburgess | https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/etc/metadefs/cim-processor-allocation-setting-data.json#L25-L28 | 18:08 |
cburgess | I don't actually see anything that is a hint in that file though. | 18:08 |
mriedem | i don't know what "CIM Processor Allocation Setting" has to do with that | 18:08 |
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cburgess | mriedem All I'm saying is that if you look under the hood I suspect that horizon is pulling a list from the metaref some how. | 18:10 |
mriedem | robcresswell: question! | 18:12 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Amend the code review guide for microversion API https://review.openstack.org/494173 | 18:12 |
mriedem | i don't know where under the hood to look | 18:12 |
cburgess | mriedem Thats my problem too :( | 18:13 |
cfriesen | is anyone aware of an issue where snapshotting a boot-from-volume instance results in a valid image but with a reported size of 0? | 18:13 |
cburgess | cfriesen Define valid? | 18:14 |
cfriesen | cburgess: you can boot an instance from it | 18:14 |
mriedem | cfriesen: i think that's 0 because, | 18:14 |
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mriedem | the image snapshot meta has some block device mapping stuff in it, | 18:14 |
cburgess | cfriesen Well thats cute, no I've not seen that.. I've seen snapshooting a BFV instance and you end up with a 0 size image that contains no data. | 18:14 |
mriedem | so when you use that image to create another server, | 18:15 |
mriedem | it does boot from volume | 18:15 |
mriedem | and creates a new volume from the volume snapshot | 18:15 |
mriedem | we have a test like that in tempest | 18:15 |
mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/scenario/test_volume_boot_pattern.py#L196 | 18:15 |
cfriesen | mriedem: okay, I'll try to reproduce and see exactly what's going on....could be our testers aren't testing what they think they are. :) | 18:15 |
mriedem | ^ has caused me lots of pain in the past | 18:16 |
mriedem | we used to have a really nasty race fail with that one | 18:16 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Move libvirt usages of chown to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/471972 | 18:16 |
mriedem | in the compute api code, it's called something like an image-defined bdm | 18:16 |
mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/api.py#L624 | 18:16 |
mriedem | cfriesen: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/api.py#L2802 | 18:17 |
mriedem | is the 0 size thing | 18:17 |
cfriesen | mriedem: sweet, thanks. | 18:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Move execs of touch to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/489190 | 18:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova master: Avoid chowning console logs in libvirt https://review.openstack.org/472229 | 18:34 |
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sdague | ok, I'm super confused what just happened there | 18:36 |
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sdague | I think mikal's stack got funky | 18:38 |
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mikal | sdake: yes, I think I've gotten lost in a rebase somewhere | 19:33 |
mikal | Sorry, sdague even | 19:33 |
mikal | sdague: I'm about to run a session, I'll eyeball the rest of the stack after that | 19:33 |
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sdague | mikal: yeh, I hit the rebase button and it became a zero length patch, so I abandoned it | 19:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Unregister the TraitList object https://review.openstack.org/502152 | 19:52 |
openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Unregister the Trait object https://review.openstack.org/502153 | 19:52 |
openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Unregister the ResourceClassList object https://review.openstack.org/502154 | 19:52 |
openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Unregister the ResourceClass object https://review.openstack.org/502155 | 19:52 |
openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Unregister the UsageList object https://review.openstack.org/502156 | 19:52 |
openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Unregister the Usage object https://review.openstack.org/502157 | 19:52 |
openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Unregister the AllocationList object https://review.openstack.org/502158 | 19:52 |
openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Unregister the Allocation object https://review.openstack.org/502159 | 19:52 |
openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Unregister the InventoryList object https://review.openstack.org/502160 | 19:52 |
openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Unregister the Inventory object https://review.openstack.org/502161 | 19:52 |
openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Unregister the ResourceProviderList object https://review.openstack.org/502162 | 19:52 |
openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Unregister the ResourceProvider object https://review.openstack.org/502163 | 19:52 |
openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Removing versioning from resource_provider objects https://review.openstack.org/502164 | 19:52 |
sdake | the ole sdague misping :) | 19:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Correct a comment in _set_allocations https://review.openstack.org/502167 | 20:01 |
cdent | dansmith, sdague, mriedem : if you guys are able to merge that soonish I can keep it detached from some other stuff in a useful way | 20:02 |
cdent | (where that is that coment fix) | 20:02 |
sdague | comment +2 | 20:03 |
openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: note the microversions for GET /resource_providers query params https://review.openstack.org/502168 | 20:03 |
cdent | thank sdague | 20:03 |
sdague | ok, I'm about to shut down here. See folks in Denver. | 20:04 |
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mriedem | cdent: question in there | 20:07 |
cdent | mriedem: answered | 20:09 |
cdent | mriedem: also, I made a blueprint for that stack of object deversioning abvoe. dan and I decided that should be done, and although it doesn’t expose any changes, having a blueprint to track seemed reasonable | 20:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: [placement] POST /allocations to set allocations for >1 consumers https://review.openstack.org/500073 | 20:37 |
openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Move project_id and user_id to Allocation object https://review.openstack.org/500410 | 20:37 |
openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Allow _set_allocations to delete allocations https://review.openstack.org/501051 | 20:37 |
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mikal | sdague: yeah, I saw that, thanks | 21:04 |
mikal | sdague: I'll hand check say the next five, and then we can talk again once those have landed | 21:04 |
mikal | sdague: I'll add a comment to each review as I check it | 21:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: [placement] manage cache headers https://review.openstack.org/495380 | 21:08 |
openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: [placement] manage cache headers https://review.openstack.org/495380 | 21:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move nbd commands to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/500351 | 21:11 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move lvm handling to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/495516 | 21:11 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move xend existence probes to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/495538 | 21:11 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move shred to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/495537 | 21:11 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup mount / umount and associated rmdir calls https://review.openstack.org/494423 | 21:11 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: WIP / Aspirational: we don't need rootwrap any more. https://review.openstack.org/495542 | 21:11 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Don't shell out to mkdir, use ensure_tree() https://review.openstack.org/492326 | 21:11 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move loopback setup and removal to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/495664 | 21:11 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move ploop commands to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/492325 | 21:11 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Read from console ptys using privsep. https://review.openstack.org/489486 | 21:11 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move the idmapshift binary into privsep. https://review.openstack.org/495541 | 21:11 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move kpartx calls to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/500354 | 21:11 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move libvirts dmcrypt support to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/490737 | 21:11 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move blkid calls to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/500398 | 21:11 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move execs of tee to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/489438 | 21:11 |
mriedem | lbragstad: is there a specific time/place for rbac policy changes on monday or tuesday? | 21:17 |
lbragstad | time - yes | 21:17 |
lbragstad | place, no idea | 21:17 |
mriedem | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/policy-queens-ptg | 21:17 |
mriedem | monday 9-12? | 21:17 |
lbragstad | i still haven't heard anything about room slots for topics like that | 21:17 |
mriedem | i guess that's different | 21:17 |
lbragstad | let me grab the baremetal/vm schedule | 21:18 |
mriedem | 13:30 - 17:00 | 21:18 |
lbragstad | yeah | 21:18 |
mriedem | 3.5 hours huh | 21:18 |
lbragstad | monday morning we are going to be helping projects with the communtiy goal | 21:18 |
lbragstad | which nova doesn't have to worry about because you're ahead of the game | 21:19 |
mriedem | \o/ | 21:19 |
lbragstad | after lunch we're planning on discussing other policy things | 21:19 |
mriedem | which etherpad is unified limits? | 21:19 |
lbragstad | s/things/problems/ | 21:19 |
lbragstad | mriedem: unified limits got stratched | 21:19 |
lbragstad | scratched* | 21:19 |
mriedem | ok | 21:19 |
lbragstad | we don't have an owner | 21:19 |
lbragstad | so we're not going to dedicate time to it until we find more interest | 21:20 |
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lbragstad | so - the essentially leaves two things on the agenda for the baremetal/vm group | 21:20 |
lbragstad | application credentials and policy/RBAC improvements | 21:20 |
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mriedem | ok | 21:21 |
mriedem | trying to highlight some of the xp stuff that nova would care about in our etherpad | 21:22 |
lbragstad | the afternoon policy stuff on monday will be important for you there | 21:22 |
mriedem | since i can't just say "dansmith and lyarwood doing skip level upgrades for 48 hours straight" | 21:22 |
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lbragstad | well - if anyone needs a break from upgrades, any input on policy would be awesome | 21:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/pike: Track which cell each instance is created in and use it consistently https://review.openstack.org/501820 | 21:28 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/pike: Ensure instance mapping is updated in case of quota recheck fails https://review.openstack.org/501821 | 21:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: [placement] api-ref GET /traits name:startswith https://review.openstack.org/499682 | 21:29 |
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mriedem | hmm, we don't update the generation if we change the name of a resource provider? | 21:55 |
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mnaser | ^ yay they merged, thanks folks :> | 23:11 |
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dansmith | mnaser: nice thanks for your effort | 23:47 |
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