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openstackgerrit | octopuszhang proposed openstack/nova master: remove re-auth logic for ironic https://review.openstack.org/502382 | 03:55 |
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openstackgerrit | octopuszhang proposed openstack/nova master: remove re-auth logic for ironic client wrapper https://review.openstack.org/502382 | 04:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Rick van de Loo proposed openstack/nova master: Allow dots in keypair filenames https://review.openstack.org/502000 | 06:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Erik Berg proposed openstack/nova master: Fix binary name https://review.openstack.org/501359 | 07:35 |
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rickd | Hey. Im having some issues spinning up a vSRX within Tacker. As it doesnt have console support added. Is there a way I can hook myself to the serial port of the guest to see what is going on? | 09:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Jianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova master: XenAPI: define a new image handler to use vdi streaming https://review.openstack.org/486475 | 10:27 |
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openstackgerrit | David Rabel proposed openstack/nova master: VMware: add support for graceful shutdown of instances https://review.openstack.org/494169 | 12:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/os-vif master: Migration from ``ip`` commands to ``pyroute2`` https://review.openstack.org/484386 | 13:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add nova-manage db command for ironic flavor migrations https://review.openstack.org/501025 | 15:53 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Split out the core of the ironic flavor migration https://review.openstack.org/501024 | 15:53 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add ComputeNodeList.get_by_hypervisor_type() https://review.openstack.org/501343 | 15:53 |
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acormier | Hi all. I'm on Openstack Newton with a Ceph backend. I'm trying to debug why my Nova ephemeral disks are not taking advantage of copy on write since the images are also backed in Ceph (there is no parent: tag in rbd info <vm_id>_disk. | 16:10 |
acormier | Almost all my VM's are backed from the same image so this would offer a HUGE savings in storage and start up time. | 16:11 |
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acormier | I've read through this guide (http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/rbd/rbd-openstack/#configuring-nova-to-attach-ceph-rbd-block-device) but my nova configuration looks fine. | 16:12 |
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jdillaman | acormier: http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/rbd/rbd-openstack/#enable-copy-on-write-cloning-of-images | 16:13 |
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melwitt | acormier: you also have to make sure your glance image format is RAW | 16:14 |
acormier | melwitt: AHH (disk_format | qcow2) | 16:15 |
acormier | That would do it. Appreciate the quick response guys, I'll give that a shot. | 16:15 |
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mikal | dims: can you send me a URL for your vault castelan patch? | 16:34 |
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dims | mikal : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/483080/ | 16:37 |
acormier | Guys, that fixed my problem. Using RAW image (which I should of gathered from the docs), gave me the COW functionality I was looking for. Thanks again! | 16:38 |
melwitt | acormier: cool, thanks for confirming | 16:39 |
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mikal | dims: thanks | 17:01 |
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mriedem | dansmith: is it still shoulder to shoulder in the skip level room? | 17:02 |
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melwitt | mriedem: yes. we have a break right now though | 17:04 |
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bauzas | sdague: cdent: missed the issue with the AZ revert, could you tl,dr quickly? | 17:32 |
bauzas | I see a revert of the revert | 17:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Spec to remove the hide server address config options https://review.openstack.org/502516 | 17:33 |
bauzas | cdent: sdague: FWIW, looks like functional tests are happy | 17:33 |
bauzas | speaking of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502342/2 | 17:33 |
sdague | bauzas: the original patch only changed the doc/api_samples | 17:33 |
sdague | which made them out of sync with the templates | 17:34 |
sdague | which thus caused functional test failures | 17:34 |
sdague | but they were skipped because of an overagressive skip in project-config | 17:34 |
sdague | that skip is fixed | 17:34 |
sdague | and I fixed the patch so that the templates work | 17:34 |
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bauzas | sdague: ah ok, thanks | 17:35 |
bauzas | sdague: so, given the job is okay, I'll +2 it, fine ? | 17:35 |
bauzas | I see your add of the func tests | 17:35 |
bauzas | so looks good to me honesytly | 17:35 |
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cdent | efried: when you hear when/where the network capabilities in placement discussion is going to be, can you make sure I know too? I don’t want to me too that thread. | 17:39 |
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efried | cdent Roger wilco. | 17:40 |
edleafe | efried: same for me | 17:40 |
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efried | edleafe rgr | 17:40 |
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sdague | bauzas: yeh, I think it's ready to merege | 17:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Lajos Katona proposed openstack/nova master: Extend ServerMovingTests with custom resources https://review.openstack.org/497399 | 17:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Fix the ocata config-reference URLs https://review.openstack.org/502017 | 19:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Fix the ocata config-reference URLs https://review.openstack.org/502017 | 19:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Spec to remove the hide server address config options https://review.openstack.org/502516 | 19:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Explain the flow of the "serial console" feature https://review.openstack.org/476188 | 19:42 |
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dansmith | mriedem: you wanna look at that ironic online migration thing? | 19:44 |
dansmith | mriedem: I promised the skip level people we were fixing this | 19:44 |
mriedem | which ironic people? i want names and addresses. | 19:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move nbd commands to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/500351 | 19:48 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move lvm handling to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/495516 | 19:48 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move xend existence probes to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/495538 | 19:48 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move shred to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/495537 | 19:48 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup mount / umount and associated rmdir calls https://review.openstack.org/494423 | 19:48 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: WIP / Aspirational: we don't need rootwrap any more. https://review.openstack.org/495542 | 19:48 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Don't shell out to mkdir, use ensure_tree() https://review.openstack.org/492326 | 19:48 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move loopback setup and removal to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/495664 | 19:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move ploop commands to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/492325 | 19:48 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Read from console ptys using privsep. https://review.openstack.org/489486 | 19:48 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move the idmapshift binary into privsep. https://review.openstack.org/495541 | 19:48 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move kpartx calls to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/500354 | 19:48 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move libvirts dmcrypt support to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/490737 | 19:48 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move blkid calls to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/500398 | 19:48 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move execs of tee to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/489438 | 19:48 |
openstackgerrit | Kaitlin Farr proposed openstack/nova master: Remove deprecated keymgr code https://review.openstack.org/439855 | 19:49 |
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dansmith | mriedem: not ironic people, skip level people | 19:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Merge server create schema for availability zone extension https://review.openstack.org/451331 | 19:51 |
mriedem | oh right | 19:51 |
mriedem | 'those' people | 19:51 |
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dansmith | yeah. | 19:53 |
mikal | Can't those people just get their upstream teams to take a look? | 19:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Merge server create schema for availability zone extension https://review.openstack.org/451331 | 19:58 |
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efried | sean-k-mooney Did you start an etherpad yet for the nova/neutron/placement modeling topic? (or edleafe cdent slaweq?) If not I'll do it. | 19:59 |
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slaweq | efried: I didn't | 20:00 |
cdent | efried, sean-k-mooney: I don’t know, and I haven’t got time, so if there isn’t one, and you have time... | 20:00 |
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efried | Cueing up a whiteboarding session per sean-k-mooney's note on -dev ML: nova/neutron/placement interaction. Things like: How does port binding get negotiated and scheduled? How are capabilities/capacities modeled in placement and how do they get through to the claim? Thinking to grab the compute/vm/bm room Tuesday after lunch (13:30-?) Does that work for people? Others interested and/or willing to lend their expertise? da | 20:15 |
efried | nsmith? | 20:15 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Revert "Revert "Fix AZ related API docs"" https://review.openstack.org/502342 | 20:16 |
efried | dansmith -^ | 20:16 |
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james_li | Hi nova devs, I am working on Newton. Is the placement api mandatory for newton? | 20:19 |
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cdent | james_li: optional for newton, required for ocata. but when you upgrade to ocata, you ought to turn on placement in newton first. | 20:20 |
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james_li | thanks cdent. so I just leave placement section in nova.conf empty to make it optional? | 20:21 |
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cdent | pretty much. you’ll get some warnings in logs, but they’ll stop | 20:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Merge server create for availability zone extension https://review.openstack.org/502574 | 20:22 |
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openstackgerrit | sunku ranganath proposed openstack/nova-specs master: WIP:Specification for using cache as a resource using cache allocation support with resource director technology and resource monitoring daemon. https://review.openstack.org/502575 | 20:24 |
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kevi9132 | Is this the correct channel to ask about the Placement API in Nova? | 20:30 |
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edleafe | kevi9132: yes | 20:31 |
mriedem | fyi if you're going to be in the nova room wed-friday, bring a sweater | 20:31 |
mriedem | or any of the ballrooms | 20:31 |
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kevi9132 | I'm working with Nova Newton and do not want to use the Placement API at this time to reduce the amount of change I have to work with. I've been told that not including a [placement] section in nova.conf does exactly this. However, the nova compute nodes fail to build servers because they can't find resources. | 20:33 |
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kevi9132 | I've tried to follow the code and it appears to be that the resource tracker is expecting to use the placement api when the compute node is initialized which exceptions. | 20:34 |
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kevi9132 | I'm sure I'm missing something so any guidance would be greatly appreciated. | 20:35 |
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mriedem | kevi9132: do you have a paste bin of the error in the compute logs? | 20:38 |
mriedem | assuming builds are failing in the scheduler with NoValidHost? | 20:38 |
mriedem | anything hitting placement APIs should be decorated with this https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/newton/nova/scheduler/client/report.py#L49 so that we handle failures and just log warnings | 20:39 |
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kevi9132 | Let me try to get the failure generated again since I smoked my VM. IIRC, the failure was NoValidHost because no hosts matched the RAM filter | 20:40 |
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kevi9132 | I believe the decorator is being used. The exception is caused because an auth plugin is not found trying to create/resolve resources which results in no resource available for an instance build. | 20:44 |
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kevi9132 | So, after booting the VM, I see that each row in the compute_nodes table has free ram and disk. | 21:18 |
kevi9132 | I'm guessing that the exception I was experiencing is expected and is now a red herring to what my instance build issue really is. I'm building an instance now and will capture the failure in the nova logs and post it. | 21:19 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/502700 | 21:25 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/os-vif master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/502708 | 21:27 |
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mriedem1 | dansmith: so does approving of this ironic flavor migration offline data migration thing mean that we're setting a precedent that now all data migrations will need both online and offline modes supported? | 21:28 |
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mriedem | i'm guessing yes | 21:29 |
mriedem | unless there is a caveat about when we do a hard drop of something that relies on the data being migrated in the next release | 21:29 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/502745 | 21:30 |
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dansmith | mriedem: we've always had that for the online migrations because of the online_data_migrations command, IMHO | 21:34 |
dansmith | and the skip level people are definitely asking for always having an offline option for that use case | 21:35 |
dansmith | which I think is very reasonable | 21:35 |
dansmith | mriedem: the offline mode is specifically so they can run a thing before a release drops a thing | 21:35 |
mriedem | "we've always had that for the online migrations because of the online_data_migrations command, IMHO" | 21:35 |
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mriedem | we've always had online data migrations since online_data_migrations, i agree | 21:35 |
dansmith | mriedem: so we can drop those migrations, we just need to have them in a release so people can run them without services starting | 21:36 |
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mriedem | so in the before times, before online data migrations, we'd just do data migrations in the sqla-migrate scripts right? | 21:36 |
dansmith | yeah | 21:36 |
dansmith | and online_data_migrations was somewhat weirdly named, in that it was the way to run the online migrations manually | 21:36 |
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mriedem | and we do'nt want to do these there since lots of people don't want the migration happening during downtime | 21:37 |
dansmith | yah | 21:37 |
mriedem | i just wanted to make sure we realize what we're signing up for | 21:37 |
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dansmith | I guess I don't see it as a change from what we've been doing | 21:38 |
mriedem | we haven't been doing offline migrations | 21:38 |
melwitt | yeah, this one is the only one we haven't provided a manual run for, right? | 21:38 |
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melwitt | that is, provided a nova-manage way to run it (via online_data_migrations) | 21:38 |
dansmith | we had one previously for pci stuff that was like the very first one | 21:39 |
mriedem | we have 3 other online data migrations added in pike, why wouldn't we also be providing offline options for those? | 21:39 |
dansmith | mriedem: we /have/ been providing them by having this command | 21:39 |
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melwitt | yeah, that's what nova-manage online_data_migrations is | 21:40 |
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dansmith | yeah | 21:40 |
dansmith | exactly | 21:40 |
melwitt | what we haven't had the past few times is actual active online data migrations (sorry that's confusing) | 21:40 |
dansmith | it's the offline way to run online migrations ... always have been | 21:40 |
dansmith | yeah, some of the ones we've had recently didn't actually do online background stuff and only happened as part of this command, but.. it's the same thing | 21:41 |
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melwitt | right | 21:41 |
mriedem | huh? | 21:41 |
mriedem | so we've always required that everything is down when we run online_data_migrations? | 21:41 |
melwitt | like, the past few data migrations we did, were not done actively in the background automatically while nova runs | 21:41 |
mriedem | https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/upgrade.html#rolling-upgrade-process | 21:41 |
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mriedem | "Start all services on the new code, with [upgrade_levels]compute=auto in nova.conf. It is safest to start nova-conductor first and nova-api last." | 21:42 |
melwitt | no, we don't require that things are down. it's just that we aren't doing it automatically in the background, we provided only the manual nova-manage command to take care of it | 21:42 |
mriedem | (later step): "This process can put significant extra write load on the database. Complete all online data migrations using: nova-manage db online_data_migrations --max-count <number>. " | 21:42 |
dansmith | I think we're stuck on terminology here | 21:42 |
dansmith | mriedem: where are you right now? we're about done here and this might be easier in person | 21:43 |
mriedem | i'm cranky now and hiding | 21:43 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/502700 | 21:43 |
dansmith | alright | 21:43 |
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mriedem | i'm on a couch in a corner by the EMC business area | 21:47 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/502745 | 21:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: doc: note that custom resources are not fully supported https://review.openstack.org/500521 | 21:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor ServerMovingTests for non-move tests https://review.openstack.org/498596 | 22:05 |
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rybridges | Hello. I had a question or 2 about vendordata in the Ocata release | 22:38 |
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rybridges | Are we still able to write our vendordata logic stuff into a driver? I am noticing this line in the ocata code base -> https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/ocata/nova/api/metadata/base.py#L745 Is vendordata not doable through a driver anymore? | 22:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Merge extended availability zone controller https://review.openstack.org/502859 | 23:07 |
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