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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Implement query param schema for simple_tenant_usage https://review.openstack.org/507480 | 06:39 |
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| SamYaple | will nova have python3 support by Queens? | 07:40 |
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| SamYaple | looks for the latest info on python3 for nova. is this up to date? PI extensions policy removal https://review.openstack.org/508101 | 07:41 |
| SamYaple | oops wrong link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Python3 | 07:41 |
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| gmann | SamYaple: this is list remaining seems - https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/tests-py3.txt | 08:13 |
| SamYaple | gmann: oh perfect! so it looks like just missing support for xen | 08:14 |
| gmann | SamYaple: this was whole effort for py3 - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/goal-python35+(status:open+OR+status:merged)+project:+openstack/nova | 08:14 |
| gmann | yea | 08:14 |
| SamYaple | awesome. i dont use xen :) | 08:14 |
| SamYaple | wonderful news | 08:14 |
| SamYaple | thanks for that | 08:14 |
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| kashyap | stephenfin: Hi, do you know top off your head if we can define a custom flavour that will set a specific image metadata property? | 08:18 |
| * kashyap guesses no | 08:18 | |
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| stephenfin | Not that I'm aware of, no. It had to be part of the image itself | 08:31 |
| stephenfin | kashyap: ^ | 08:31 |
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| kashyap | stephenfin: Thought so, thanks for confirming. | 08:31 |
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| kashyap | Hi bauzas, when you get a moment: | 09:22 |
| bauzas | sure ? | 09:22 |
| kashyap | Is such a rule possible: If the instance has "hw_machine_type=x86_64=pc-q35-2.9" property, then when migrating it, please choose a Compute node that has that machine type configured (because: there's also the same nova.conf attribute that can be set for the whole Compute) | 09:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Pick ironic nodes without VCPU set https://review.openstack.org/513678 | 09:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Implement query param schema for host index https://review.openstack.org/513699 | 10:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Huan Xie proposed openstack/nova master: VGPU: Define vgpu resource class https://review.openstack.org/511180 | 11:20 |
| artom_ | stephenfin, since https://review.openstack.org/#/c/345396/22/nova/console/websocketproxy.py is being held up by CI, do you think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/345399/29/nova/console/websocketproxy.py@82 could be addressed? | 11:21 |
| artom_ | My OCD would feel much better :) | 11:22 |
| artom_ | (But I understand if you don't feel like chasing the +2 again) | 11:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Huan Xie proposed openstack/nova master: VGPU: Define vgpu resource class https://review.openstack.org/511180 | 11:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Fix 500 error while passing 4-byte unicode data https://review.openstack.org/407514 | 12:34 |
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| stephenfin | artom: I can split it out into a separate patch, but I won't mess with the first one once it's got +W | 12:38 |
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| stephenfin | *I will | 12:38 |
| stephenfin | For reference, that got added because the original patch was written without Python 3 being a consideration | 12:38 |
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| artom | stephenfin, ah, gotcha | 12:41 |
| artom | I'm obviously not super hung up about it | 12:42 |
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| efried | Gah, Friday! | 13:43 |
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| figleaf | fried_rice: usually people have that reaction to Mondays | 13:44 |
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| gibi | this is the time (and the same time on Monday) when I like to be in an EU timezone. For me it is almos over. ;) | 13:45 |
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| fried_rice | leakypipes Now a good time to talk about same RCs on main & shared RPs? | 13:54 |
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| leakypipes | fried_rice: yuppers. | 13:55 |
| fried_rice | Okay, so I opened a couple bugs and put up a couple test cases that demonstrate the issue: | 13:56 |
| fried_rice | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513149/ | 13:56 |
| fried_rice | (bugs in the commit msg) | 13:56 |
| fried_rice | The crux of the issue happens when the main RP (the compute node for now) has a resource class that's also present in the shared RP(s) | 13:57 |
| fried_rice | The end game with shared RPs is post-Q, but it's going to come into play with the code alex_xu is writing to handle traits for allocation candidates. | 13:58 |
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| fried_rice | Using the example where the RC in question is DISK_GB, the problem is that you can say you want traits "RAID" and "SSD", but placement doesn't know that those are disk-y traits. | 13:58 |
| fried_rice | So if your compute node has localdisk that's SSD, and your shared storage RP has disk that's RAID, you'll get a candidate for (compute node + shared RP) because the combination satisfies both traits. | 13:59 |
| leakypipes | fried_rice: I thought the resources1/required1 stuff solved that particular issue? because that request is saying "gimme 10GB of disk space from a provider with the STORAGE_DISK_SSD trait" | 14:00 |
| fried_rice | Well, first of all, we have deliberately deferred discussion of the semantics of numbered groups with shared, because we're deferring shared. | 14:00 |
| fried_rice | But second, that would only "solve" it if you made sure to use the numbered groups in the right place. | 14:01 |
| leakypipes | ok... and? | 14:01 |
| fried_rice | That would be a tough thing to document for ops. But I suppose it could be done. | 14:01 |
| leakypipes | fried_rice: well, Eric, much of the n-r-p stuff is going to be tough to document for ops... | 14:02 |
| fried_rice | Nevertheless, the code for the un-numbered group needs to handle it in some way or another. | 14:02 |
| leakypipes | fried_rice: or it doesn't and we ignore it until we work on the numbered groups stuff. | 14:03 |
| fried_rice | "it doesn't" meaning what? | 14:03 |
| leakypipes | fried_rice: the un-numbered groups code does not need to handle this scenario. | 14:04 |
| cdent | leakypipes: was this originally supposed to work (in the early design) or had we put some other boundary in that meant it didn’t matter? Trying to refersh my memory. | 14:04 |
| leakypipes | cdent: there's nothing about the current design of the resource providers modeling system that prevents these questions from being answered. Until fried_rice' | 14:05 |
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| leakypipes | s numbered groups request format thing was proposed, however, we did not have a way of communicating the question to the placement API. | 14:05 |
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| leakypipes | cdent: and what I'm saying is that we have higher priority items to get done. we should shelve this important discussion for after those higher priority items are done. | 14:06 |
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| fried_rice | leakypipes Okay, but I'm saying we have code right now (merged and in flight) where this needs to be addressed. | 14:06 |
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| leakypipes | fried_rice: your concern is definitely a good one. just saying let's focus on the foundational pieces first, note where we have bugs, and solve those bugs with the numbered groups stuff. | 14:06 |
| cdent | leakypipes: I get that, but I’m just trying to confirm some of my memroy about resource classes and shared providers, in existing code | 14:07 |
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| leakypipes | fried_rice: it does not need to be addressed right now. | 14:07 |
| leakypipes | fried_rice: unless by addressed you mean "put a func test with commented-out assertions that explain how things *should work* when X bug is fixed" | 14:07 |
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| leakypipes | cdent: ack | 14:08 |
| fried_rice | leakypipes https://review.openstack.org/#/c/479766/10/nova/objects/resource_provider.py@2549 is in flight right now: we just can't write this code without answering the question in some way. | 14:08 |
| figleaf | leakypipes: I remember saying that a CN could have local disk or shared disk, but not both | 14:08 |
| figleaf | then that changed | 14:09 |
| figleaf | well, not *me* saying that, but... | 14:09 |
| leakypipes | fried_rice: yes, you can. | 14:09 |
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| leakypipes | fried_rice: I will put a review comment in the patch. | 14:10 |
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| leakypipes | figleaf: what you're remembering is the scheduler folks (you, me, cdent, superdan, etc) agreeing to "keep things simple" for now and assume a CN has either local or not, and not support both at this time. | 14:12 |
| figleaf | leakypipes: ok, thanks. Why did that change? | 14:12 |
| leakypipes | figleaf: it hasn't. | 14:12 |
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| fried_rice | leakypipes The patch has an implementation that already takes shared RPs into account. If that code is unreachable/no-op at the moment, then okay - but that patch is either going to need to rip out the existing shared RP stuff or create known-buggy situations. | 14:13 |
| leakypipes | figleaf: but what fried_rice is getting at is the *request* part of that equation. meaning how does a flavor ask for distinct groups of identical resources with different traits. but again, we're pushing that work out to Rocky | 14:13 |
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| fried_rice | whoah, we are? | 14:13 |
| leakypipes | fried_rice: ack. that is precisely what I've been saying. | 14:13 |
| fried_rice | The numbered syntax is approved for Queens. | 14:13 |
| leakypipes | fried_rice: oh? sorry I didn't know that. | 14:14 |
| leakypipes | fried_rice: apologies. | 14:14 |
| leakypipes | fried_rice: in any case, my point is the same. | 14:14 |
| leakypipes | fried_rice: there will be a time where there are known buggy areas in the code. | 14:14 |
| leakypipes | fried_rice: those areas should be documented with code comments and func tests with correct assertions commented out. | 14:15 |
| leakypipes | fried_rice: understood? | 14:15 |
| fried_rice | leakypipes I understand your words :) | 14:15 |
| leakypipes | fried_rice: and I understand your sarcasm. | 14:15 |
| superdan | leakypipes: we need the numbered syntax bit for things like NRPs to work properly right? that's why it needs to be in queens | 14:16 |
| leakypipes | superdan: well, we need the numbered resources stuff for *some* types of requests for n-r-p resources to work properly, yes. | 14:16 |
| superdan | right | 14:16 |
| superdan | that doesn't mean we have to implement everything you could possibly request with the numbered syntax, agree | 14:16 |
| leakypipes | precisely. | 14:17 |
| fried_rice | This issue is about the un-numbered piece anyway. | 14:17 |
| sean-k-mooney | superdan: the numbered syntax is also need for non dested resouces when using traits | 14:17 |
| superdan | yes | 14:18 |
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| leakypipes | fried_rice: but right now, all requests are assumed to be "gimme X amount of these resources and make sure the providers providing those resources have these Y traits between them all" | 14:18 |
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| fried_rice | leakypipes Right. Do we agree there's a hole there? | 14:20 |
| leakypipes | fried_rice: yes. | 14:20 |
| leakypipes | fried_rice: please please read my comments from Oct 2 here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/489206/ | 14:20 |
| fried_rice | ... | 14:21 |
| leakypipes | fried_rice: sorry for the please please. | 14:21 |
| leakypipes | fried_rice: I had typed please, then ctrl-x'd please, responded to your comment with "yes." and then pasted and typed please again... sorry about that | 14:22 |
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| leakypipes | fried_rice: all that to say I only meant to point you at the review comments I made on that review above. :) | 14:22 |
| leakypipes | fried_rice: which discusses the implementation of this particular piece of code. | 14:22 |
| fried_rice | leakypipes No offense taken. And I apologize for sounding sarcastic earlier - that was not my intent. | 14:23 |
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| fried_rice | leakypipes The review I linked above is alex_xu's response to those comments, implementing it in the way you suggested (I think). | 14:24 |
| fried_rice | leakypipes ...which happened while you were out of course. | 14:24 |
| gregwork | does anyone know how a flavor rx/tx factor affects an instance where its networking is plumbed through ovs-dpdk (if at all) | 14:25 |
| superdan | gregwork: it affects nothing anywhere | 14:25 |
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| gregwork | superdan: so leaving it unset when I create the flavor wont affect instances spawned by that flavor in any way ? | 14:27 |
| superdan | gregwork: leaving it unset, or setting it to anything you want will have zero effect on anything anywhere at any time and in any alternate dimension | 14:27 |
| gregwork | superdan: excellent, i had been concerned that my flavor might be unliked in extradimensional territories | 14:28 |
| leakypipes | lol | 14:29 |
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| fried_rice | leakypipes Read and grokked. (I had read it previously while reviewing alex_xu's work, but I understand it better now.) It's a very clear statement of how we're going to wind up merging traits. IIUC, it's not suggesting a different design, just a different implementation of that design. | 14:30 |
| leakypipes | fried_rice: shall I comment on the patch then? :) | 14:30 |
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| leakypipes | fried_rice: correct. | 14:30 |
| fried_rice | leakypipes https://review.openstack.org/#/c/479766/10/nova/objects/resource_provider.py@2549 <== here? Sure. | 14:31 |
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| mekenmk_ | Hello, can you help me Plase? | 14:32 |
| mekenmk_ | I made a "yum update" in my computes and now when I run the live-migration command it does not migrate the instances. and I have the following error in the log. | 14:32 |
| mekenmk_ | https://pastebin.com/zrBSLtMn | 14:32 |
| fried_rice | leakypipes Because I still don't understand what approach you're suggesting on that piece of code. Whatever we do there is going to result in *some* kind of behavior in this scenario. I guess you're saying we just pick one, knowing it's buggy, and leave a TODO explaining in what way it's buggy? | 14:32 |
| mekenmk_ | An additional information is that if I restart the instance. he migration work | 14:32 |
| sean-k-mooney | kindo of related to this work superdan leakypipes do you remember the call wew had relating to vswitch hardware offload a few months ago. | 14:32 |
| mekenmk_ | i'm using Redh-Hat 7.4 | 14:32 |
| leakypipes | fried_rice: that is exactly what I'm saying, yes. :) | 14:33 |
| superdan | mekenmk_: see topic please | 14:33 |
| sean-k-mooney | superdan: leakypipes we discussed adding a nova compute config option to label pic devices with traits statically, we breifly discussed that at the ptg | 14:33 |
| mekenmk_ | sorry @superdan | 14:33 |
| sean-k-mooney | superdan: leakypipes is that still something we want to do in queens | 14:34 |
| leakypipes | sean-k-mooney: no | 14:34 |
| leakypipes | sean-k-mooney: I think you're referring to the conversation where we discussed having like an inventory.yaml file on the compute node that would store static device information and things like that? | 14:34 |
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| sean-k-mooney | leakypipes: thats what it evolved into at the ptg. it started with just an extra config item to suplement the whitlist that would be used to tag the devices with traits | 14:35 |
| leakypipes | sean-k-mooney: yeah. I'm not a huge fan of adding yet more configuration options, but yes, I remember that being a proposed solution. | 14:36 |
| sean-k-mooney | leakypipes: cool if we want to defer that to rocky with the rest of the generic device stuff i think thats fine | 14:37 |
| leakypipes | sean-k-mooney: yup, my thoughts exactly. | 14:37 |
| sean-k-mooney | leakypipes: by the way i taught you were going to be taking some time off as part of your move to the company that rhymes with horizon | 14:38 |
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| mnaser | i can understand why flavors are immutable but why is the public property of them immutable as well? | 14:38 |
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| leakypipes | sean-k-mooney: I took last Wednesday to Wednesday off :) | 14:39 |
| leakypipes | sean-k-mooney: I start at Verizon on Monday... | 14:39 |
| sean-k-mooney | leakypipes: ah welcome back, fell refreshed :P | 14:39 |
| leakypipes | sean-k-mooney: slightly :) | 14:39 |
| leakypipes | mnaser: not sure :( | 14:40 |
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| mnaser | i'm trying to imagine things that can go wrong if we edit the db field | 14:40 |
| mnaser | and im not seeing much | 14:40 |
| sean-k-mooney | mnaser: what properties exactly are you refering too? | 14:40 |
| mnaser | sean-k-mooney: os-flavor-access:is_public | 14:41 |
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| sean-k-mooney | mnaser: i belive you can change that as an admin | 14:42 |
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| mnaser | sean-k-mooney really? i looked at the api-ref doc and it doesnt show POST /flavors/{flavor_id} as a thing | 14:42 |
| * mnaser looks at code | 14:42 | |
| * figleaf runs out for a bit | 14:42 | |
| mnaser | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/flavors.py | 14:43 |
| mnaser | i dont see it | 14:43 |
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| sean-k-mooney | mnaser: huh just tried the flavor id changes each time i update the acess so ya its imutable | 14:43 |
| mnaser | sean-k-mooney i think horizon deletes and creates a new flavor | 14:44 |
| sean-k-mooney | mnaser: ah perhaps i can try it from the command line but that would explain what im seeing | 14:44 |
| mnaser | https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1311561 | 14:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1311561 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "editing a flavor changes it's ID" [Undecided,Won't fix] | 14:45 |
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| mnaser | i couldnt even find a a CLI option to edit because the api doesn't even have a way of editing things | 14:45 |
| sean-k-mooney | mnaser: i think its a derived property of if you have associate the flavor with a tenant | 14:46 |
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| mnaser | sean-k-mooney: when you create a flavor you can choose for it to be public or private, once that's decided, you can't change it from public to private from what i understand | 14:46 |
| mnaser | ive used flavor access with no problems (private + access to specific tenants) | 14:46 |
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| mnaser | im just curious behind if there was a concious decision of saying "we cant change if a flavor is public" | 14:47 |
| sean-k-mooney | mnaser: horizon makes the flavor privte if you use the flavor acess property and its public otherwise | 14:47 |
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| mnaser | sean-k-mooney i understand, but now i have a bunch of private flavors being used by some tenants. i want to take those flavors and make them public, i have no way of doing that | 14:48 |
| sean-k-mooney | mnaser: yes the only thing i can think of would be what happes if i booted form a pulic flavor and then did a rebuild or migrate after it was made private | 14:49 |
| mnaser | sean-k-mooney buuuut i think in that case, nova takes the current flavor and stores it in system_metadata so there is no hard dependency on it there (i think...) | 14:49 |
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| mriedem | cdent: figleaf: superdan: leakypipes: i've made my rounds through the alternate host patch, all of it except for the filter scheduler tests https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486215/ | 14:50 |
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| sean-k-mooney | mnaser: if the rebuild uses that cached copy of the original flavor then yes but would that be what a operator wanted to happen | 14:51 |
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| mriedem | mnaser: yes you don't want to do edit flavor in horizon | 14:52 |
| mriedem | that's a long-standing known issue, | 14:52 |
| mriedem | and in pike the horizon team provided a way to disable that behavior | 14:52 |
| mriedem | https://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/horizon/pike.html#upgrade-notes | 14:52 |
| mriedem | "The ability to edit flavors is disabled by default. See ENABLE_FLAVOR_EDIT in the settings documentation for more information." | 14:52 |
| mnaser | mriedem any idea on what could go horrible wrong if we updated the db field to make it public (i can imagine switching to private might break things, but public *feels* ok) | 14:52 |
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| mriedem | i haven't read all of the scrollback here | 14:53 |
| mnaser | mriedem: tl;dr - we have a private flavor we shared with a few projects, we want to expose it to all projects now | 14:53 |
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| mriedem | can't just create a new flavor with the same attributes except it's public? | 14:54 |
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| mriedem | otherwise i'm not sure off the top of my head what could go wrong if you make a private flavor public | 14:54 |
| mnaser | mriedem could do so, but i feel like given the uuid will change it might break users that called the flavor by uuid? | 14:54 |
| superdan | there's no uuid | 14:55 |
| mriedem | mnaser: well the users that have access to the private flavor and are calling it that way won't change right? | 14:55 |
| mriedem | flavorid i assume he means | 14:55 |
| mriedem | yoda talk like i do today | 14:55 |
| mriedem | mnaser: new flavor would have a different flavorid yes | 14:55 |
| mriedem | but projects using the old private flavor won't be broken | 14:55 |
| mriedem | they'll continue to reference the private flaovr | 14:55 |
| mriedem | *flavor | 14:55 |
| sean-k-mooney | :) mriedem if mnaser kept both flavor yes but that also may confuse them if they are seching progrmaticlaly for the flavor | 14:56 |
| mnaser | (don't shoot me, but then they'll end up with two visible flavors with the same name) | 14:56 |
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| sahid | mriedem: yesterday you told me that "it's not on your list" do you suggest me to ask somebody else to review, the specs because it's not your area of expertise? | 14:56 |
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| * mnaser feels confident that changing the db field *should* be ok | 14:57 | |
| mriedem | mnaser: a tenant user would only see flavors they have access to right? | 14:57 |
| mriedem | so they'll see public flavors, | 14:57 |
| sean-k-mooney | mnaser: yes boots with the flavor name would now fail becuase we cant do the horible name to flavior id mapping we do today | 14:57 |
| mriedem | and private flavors that their project has access to, | 14:57 |
| mriedem | so yeah if the flavor name was the same for both the public and private i could see some confusion, but you said they were using the flavorid | 14:57 |
| mriedem | also, i think flavor.name has a unique constraint on it | 14:58 |
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| mriedem | sahid: yes cpu pinning is not anywhere near my area of expertise | 14:58 |
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| mriedem | yup | 14:58 |
| mriedem | schema.UniqueConstraint("name", name="uniq_flavors0name")) | 14:58 |
| mriedem | mnaser: so it would have to have a unique name for the public version of the flavor, | 14:59 |
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| mnaser | ok so that wouldn't even work, boo | 14:59 |
| mriedem | you can tweak the db, but i can't say for sure if anything bad will happen | 14:59 |
| sahid | mriedem: ok, i will probably ask leakypipes... | 14:59 |
| mriedem | going from private -> public seems ok | 14:59 |
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| mriedem | public -> private would obviously be bad | 14:59 |
| mriedem | sahid: we're also past spec freeze | 14:59 |
| mriedem | and we already have a lot of stuff approved | 15:00 |
| sahid | mriedem: so both of my specs are not going to pass? | 15:00 |
| mriedem | sahid: you're not the only person with specs that aren't approved right now | 15:00 |
| sean-k-mooney | mriedem: the only case i can see breaking for public -> private is rebuild or migrate actions but even then they may be ok if the use the instance cached flavor? | 15:00 |
| sahid | no worries, just asking | 15:00 |
| mriedem | the more time we spend reviewing specs forever and adding more stuff to the list, the less time we focus on anything like nested RPs and VGPUs | 15:01 |
| mriedem | which are something you also want | 15:01 |
| mnaser | i should go read code before asking this (but it's friday): if i delete the flavor, recreate it again specifying the same flavorid+name .. could i get away with it? | 15:01 |
| sean-k-mooney | mnaser: we dont actully delete things in nova | 15:01 |
| mriedem | mnaser: that should work... | 15:01 |
| sean-k-mooney | mnaser: we make them as deleted so not sure if it will break the unique constrait | 15:02 |
| mriedem | any instances created with the old flavor have it persisted already per instance | 15:02 |
| mriedem | sean-k-mooney: flavors are in the api db now, | 15:02 |
| mriedem | where we don't do soft delete | 15:02 |
| mriedem | so if he deletes it, it's gone | 15:02 |
| mriedem | it would only be persisted per instance that used it | 15:02 |
| mnaser | at least that way is "supported" so we're not doing black magic that might bite us later | 15:02 |
| mriedem | yeah, so if you deleted and recreated as public i think that would work | 15:03 |
| sean-k-mooney | mriedem: ya i just tested it on the commandline too | 15:03 |
| sean-k-mooney | mriedem: it works on newton | 15:03 |
| mriedem | mnaser: i think you'd want to be sure to recreate with the same flavorid | 15:03 |
| mnaser | yeah, that would be the most important thing, same flavorid, same name, make sure we keep the extra_specs there too | 15:03 |
| mnaser | mriedem sean-k-mooney thank you so much for the back-and-forth, it's helpful and i guess this explains why the flavors edit thing isn't necessary, as you can recreate the flavor with the same exact state (as you have control over flavorid) | 15:04 |
| mriedem | sean-k-mooney: rebuild and migrate actions use the embedded instance.flavor | 15:04 |
| sean-k-mooney | mnaser: doing that though would be the same as jsut chaning the db flag though right | 15:04 |
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| mriedem | sean-k-mooney: public -> private would be bad because anyone relying on a given flavorid/name in their tooling would be broken if they didn't have private access to the flavor | 15:05 |
| mnaser | sean-k-mooney but cleaner, such as it will probably clean up and remove any tenant access assignments that shouldn't be there (in the case of a public flavor) | 15:05 |
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| sean-k-mooney | mriedem: oh yes i know i ment form a internal nova point of view | 15:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.trigger_crash_dump notification https://review.openstack.org/396225 | 15:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.trigger_crash_dump notification https://review.openstack.org/396225 | 15:06 |
| sean-k-mooney | mnaser: ah yes that would be a delta between the dirct update | 15:06 |
| mnaser | and that way, nova is healthy in a way that we don't have a broken upgrade because some migration tries to change things around later and has these weird inconsistent flavors or so | 15:06 |
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| mnaser | probably the one thing i learned the most (and in the hardest way) is that quick fixes make your installation unpredictable, so upgrades become a pain because you're hitting these weird corner cases | 15:06 |
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| sean-k-mooney | mnaser: also dont deploy resealse candiates into production for you internal dev cloud... i proably could upgrade it but its easier to redeploy | 15:07 |
| mnaser | i cant imagine rc => release should be too problematic? unless the rc's had an issue that mangled your db up; | 15:08 |
| mriedem | if it did, the fix would have to account for it | 15:09 |
| mriedem | each commit is a release | 15:09 |
| mriedem | assumed to be deployed | 15:09 |
| mriedem | at least round these parts | 15:09 |
| sean-k-mooney | mnaser: true but to get to pike i would have to do rc -> newton, enable placement newton-> ocata, enable cells v2, ocata-> pike | 15:10 |
| sean-k-mooney | or i can just deploy pike | 15:10 |
| mnaser | well in our case we can't just shut down our entire cloud and redeploy it :D | 15:10 |
| mriedem | heh, was going to say, | 15:10 |
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| mriedem | not so easy with a public cloud | 15:10 |
| mriedem | that's why at my old dept in ibm we had an essex cloud, a folsom cloud, and a juno cloud at some point | 15:11 |
| mnaser | bofh public cloud | 15:11 |
| mnaser | :p | 15:11 |
| mriedem | writing tooling on top was super fun! | 15:11 |
| mnaser | i feel like it would be fun to deploy essex from essex-eol just for the fun of it and see how far we come | 15:12 |
| mnaser | :p | 15:12 |
| mriedem | "why doesn't this work? oh yeah, nova-net on essex has that one bug...let me code around that in my jenkins job..." | 15:12 |
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| mriedem | mnaser: clearly you have too much time on your hands :P | 15:13 |
| sean-k-mooney | our current private cloud is only using 10 of the 40 nodes its ment to be deployed on so i can keep the old run running while i bring up the new one. | 15:13 |
| mnaser | ahaha | 15:13 |
| mnaser | well hey mriedem if it's cool to know work is actively wanted/needed | 15:13 |
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| mnaser | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/deprecate-file-injection => literally customer right now "upon rebuild, is there a way to send userdata script?" | 15:14 |
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| fallenour_ | YAY PEOPLE! | 15:14 |
| fallenour_ | has anyone ever seen an issue where config applies ceph osd devices, and registers OSD devices, but doesnt show them in openstack-dashboard under hypervisors for the compute nodes? | 15:15 |
| fallenour_ | deployment method: conjure-up ; cloud version: xenial:pike | 15:15 |
| mnaser | fallenour_ - please have a look at the topic, i'd suggest #openstack :) | 15:15 |
| * superdan hands mnaser a cookie | 15:16 | |
| mnaser | and given that seems to be deployment tool related, i'd suggest #ubuntu-server | 15:16 |
| sean-k-mooney | fallenour_: as what? they should not appear in localstorage. its ceph... | 15:16 |
| mnaser | thanks superdan :D | 15:16 |
| * sean-k-mooney is confused | 15:16 | |
| fallenour_ | mnaser: yes, I understand, I am trying to create a massive online development infrastructure as a service for free, so it koalafies? and its a nova issue o.o | 15:17 |
| mriedem | mnaser: cool - keep in mind the input we got in the ML asking if we should do that got that into the spec :) | 15:17 |
| mriedem | so keep it coming | 15:17 |
| superdan | fallenour_: this channel is for nova development, not getting help with nova (see topic) | 15:17 |
| fallenour_ | sean-k-mooney: I understand that, thats the issue, its configured to use ceph, but its only showing I have 140 gb of storage per node, and I hsould have 2.19 tb on the stack | 15:17 |
| fallenour_ | superdan: roger, will take it to pms. My apologies. hard for me to do anything with it if baseline isnt working for me though :( | 15:18 |
| mnaser | fallenour_ the problem isn't nova, the problem is the deployment tool not doing the job, hence suggesting #ubuntu-server :) | 15:18 |
| sean-k-mooney | fallenour_: im guessing your missing the nova config option that make nova use rbd for all guest storage | 15:19 |
| sean-k-mooney | fallenour_: with that set it will report 2.19TB pernode and be equally wrong | 15:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.resize_revert notification https://review.openstack.org/396811 | 15:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Add a warning in 'nova-manage cell_v2 delete_cell' https://review.openstack.org/513771 | 15:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Test alloc candidates with same RC in cn & shared https://review.openstack.org/513149 | 15:57 |
| fried_rice | cdent gibi Okay, I reworked ^ to "pass" with comments, and extracted it from alex_xu's chain so it can merge without it. | 15:58 |
| cdent | does anybody remember a bug (and fix) where a disk related cache being wrong could cause the disk could go away, especially after a resize? | 15:59 |
| cdent | fried_rice++ | 15:59 |
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| cdent | I have a memory of that, but haven’t got enough info to search well | 16:01 |
| leakypipes | gibi: hey. so on the "re-parenting a resource provider" thing. | 16:01 |
| leakypipes | gibi, superdan: I think it would be easier to just prevent re-parenting on update for right now. | 16:01 |
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| leakypipes | and add in functionality to re-parent at some later time when we can deal with that potential use case. | 16:01 |
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| fried_rice | leakypipes Agree almost totally. We ought to be able to set the parent of a RP if it's currently null. | 16:02 |
| cdent | mdbooth: you remember that bug (a few lines up)? | 16:02 |
| fried_rice | Sorry if that's what you meant by "re-" | 16:02 |
| superdan | leakypipes: I was kinda thinking that was going to be a really useful thing to have in the early days, | 16:03 |
| superdan | leakypipes: for things like re-parenting a NIC provider underneath a numa node when we start having them, etc | 16:03 |
| fried_rice | Dangit, I was literally just typing, "I can't think of a scenario where we would *need* to truly reparent..." | 16:03 |
| superdan | without losing everything | 16:03 |
| fried_rice | superdan That would be during an upgrade, kind of thing? | 16:04 |
| fried_rice | superdan We wouldn't want to do that just on the fly while running, would we? | 16:04 |
| superdan | fried_rice: it could come as a result of rolling past the commit/release where we add another layer of topology, yeah, or it could be part of a bugfix where we were improperly hanging things at places in the tree, or what4ver | 16:05 |
| superdan | I just thought this was intended to be a fundamental operation we could do to avoid having to do expensive recalculation of allocations when we add functions, is all | 16:05 |
| fried_rice | We ought to at least be able to disable it in this patch and work it in a later one, nah? | 16:06 |
| fried_rice | if we decide we do want some reparenting affordance in q | 16:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Fully destroy instances during _hard_reboot https://review.openstack.org/400384 | 16:08 |
| superdan | fried_rice: we'd need to implement it before we do anything that could change topology I guess | 16:09 |
| leakypipes | superdan: right. | 16:10 |
| fried_rice | superdan Agreed. If we just implement "set parent if null", then we can at least "change topology" from "flat". | 16:10 |
| fried_rice | But we don't need to be able to change topology beyond that in the near term, IMO. | 16:11 |
| finucannot | sean-k-mooney: You about? | 16:11 |
| superdan | fried_rice: I dunno, what are the first few nested providers we expect? numa nodes, and SRIOV nics /VGPUs right? | 16:12 |
| fried_rice | superdan reckon so, yeah. | 16:12 |
| fried_rice | superdan Early in R, network bw stuff mebbe. | 16:12 |
| superdan | let's say we expose a VGPU for something like vmware or xen, | 16:12 |
| superdan | but we don't have numa information until a week later | 16:13 |
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| superdan | then we have to reparent the vgpu provider under the numa node | 16:13 |
| sean-k-mooney | finucannot: yes | 16:13 |
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| fried_rice | superdan Oh, are we actually concerned about being able to rework existing deployments on the master branch? | 16:13 |
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| superdan | fried_rice: always | 16:13 |
| finucannot | sean-k-mooney: Quick one - I've got two identical PCI devices and I want to disable one of them at least from a nova perspective. Any ideas on how that could be accomplished? | 16:14 |
| finucannot | Only got access to the host OS - not the BIOS | 16:14 |
| fried_rice | finucannot [pci]passthrough_whitelist by PCI address | 16:14 |
| finucannot | fried_rice: Oh, can you do PCI address too? | 16:15 |
| cfriesen | echo 0 > /sys/bus/pci/slot/$N/power | 16:15 |
| fried_rice | finucannot yup | 16:15 |
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| finucannot | cfriesen: That's what I tried but alas, no power file | 16:15 |
| fried_rice | finucannot e.g. https://docs.openstack.org/nova/pike/admin/pci-passthrough.html#configure-pci-devices-compute | 16:15 |
| sean-k-mooney | finucannot: pci adress was the first thing the whiteliset support i think | 16:15 |
| fried_rice | finucannot You can also put * in for any of those. | 16:16 |
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| finucannot | fried_rice: Serious case of RTFM there. Thanks for the link :) | 16:16 |
| fried_rice | finucannot yahyoubetcha | 16:17 |
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| sean-k-mooney | finucannot: you needed to "disable" it so that openstack would not use it right and not for some other reason | 16:17 |
| * finucannot notes the link in (2) of that doc is wrong and adds it to the todo list | 16:18 | |
| finucannot | sean-k-mooney: I want disable the PCI devices on node 0 to make sure non-PCI-needing devices use node 1 CPUs | 16:18 |
| sean-k-mooney | finucannot: ah ok | 16:19 |
| sean-k-mooney | you can do that another way | 16:19 |
| finucannot | Validating that PCI weigher spec from last cycle again, but this time without a server beside me that I can unplug the NIC from :) | 16:19 |
| finucannot | sean-k-mooney: Do tell | 16:19 |
| sean-k-mooney | the numa node value in sysfs is writeable so you can lable the device as part of the other numa node or set it to -1 which means no numa affinity | 16:20 |
| * sean-k-mooney i did not say the other way was clean ... | 16:21 | |
| finucannot | Hahaha | 16:21 |
| leakypipes | superdan: first nested resources are PFs which are children of the compute nodes. | 16:21 |
| finucannot | That's even better though, because it can be scripted | 16:21 |
| finucannot | from the perspective of automating this in the future | 16:21 |
| superdan | leakypipes: right, and then we'll want them under numa nodes ASAP, so -> reparent | 16:22 |
| * fried_rice is still reeling from superdan's assertion that we need to provide intra-master "upgrade" paths... | 16:22 | |
| sean-k-mooney | finucannot: true but you should check if the change get reflected into virsh nodedev list | 16:22 |
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| sean-k-mooney | fried_rice: intra master is the same as stable brance minor upgrades | 16:23 |
| fried_rice | Which I *guess* is why we need microversions within a release. | 16:24 |
| finucannot | fried_rice, cfriesen, sean-k-mooney: One more q: I noticed that adding 'physical_network' to the 'passthrough_whitelist' option and specifying '"device_type": "type-PCI"' for 'alias' resulted in 'type-PF' | 16:24 |
| superdan | fried_rice: we have always done this.. like mriedem said earlier, each commit is a release | 16:24 |
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| fried_rice | superdan Good to know. I truly didn't realize that. | 16:24 |
| finucannot | I haven't tried it again and know I shouldn't have set 'physical_network', but does that ring a bell? | 16:24 |
| mriedem | i say lots of things | 16:25 |
| finucannot | Want to make sure it's not a "feature" before I go tracking down a possible bug | 16:25 |
| sean-k-mooney | finucannot: if you dont have vfs allocated that is expected | 16:25 |
| fried_rice | finucannot Oh, please do not fix "bugs" in the PCI manager. | 16:25 |
| mriedem | rm -rf nova/pci && echo "fixed" | 16:25 |
| mriedem | ? | 16:25 |
| fried_rice | Yeah, except for that fix. | 16:26 |
| superdan | mriedem: ++ | 16:26 |
| sean-k-mooney | finucannot: stephen if the pf does not have VF that is the correct value because we supprot neutron vnic type direct_physical | 16:26 |
| finucannot | curl --data "salary=0" https://api.salary.redhat.com/sfinucan | 16:27 |
| sean-k-mooney | finucannot: that means pretend we are doing sriov but really do a full pci passthrough and update neutron port the the phisical mac | 16:27 |
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| superdan | finucannot: I get an overflow error every time I try to use that api | 16:27 |
| cdent | have a good weekend all | 16:27 |
| finucannot | sean-k-mooney: Even though I explicitly set 'device_type' in the alias? | 16:27 |
| superdan | something about not fitting into a 32-bit int | 16:27 |
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| sean-k-mooney | finucannot: you set the device type to type-PCI a pf is a pci device | 16:28 |
| sean-k-mooney | but looking at the docs again i think you ment "device_type":"type-PF" or "device_type":"type-VF" not type-PCI | 16:29 |
| finucannot | sean-k-mooney: Right, but 'type-PCI' != 'type-PF', so attempting to use the alias in a flavor's extra specs results in a failure to boot | 16:29 |
| leakypipes | superdan: right. I'm not saying reparenting isn't important. just that for this first patch, I would like to disable it. | 16:29 |
| leakypipes | superdan: with a TODO of course | 16:30 |
| finucannot | Ah, wait - maybe I'm getting things mixed up here | 16:31 |
| sean-k-mooney | finucannot: right when you added the physnet it made it useable for neutron sriov passthough and diabled nova pci passthough | 16:31 |
| finucannot | sean-k-mooney: and marks it as 'type-PF'? | 16:32 |
| finucannot | So the alias is simply that, an alias, so my alias is simply wrong? | 16:32 |
| sean-k-mooney | yep if you change it to type-PF it will work | 16:33 |
| finucannot | (y) | 16:33 |
| finucannot | We should probably note how we decide what device_type to mark a device as somewhere | 16:33 |
| finucannot | I thought it was done via the alias but I see the error of my ways now | 16:34 |
| sean-k-mooney | yes it was foolish to try to understand how our pci passthrough code works :) | 16:35 |
| * finucannot always assumes the best of 'nova/pci'. It's such a misunderstood piece of code ;) | 16:36 | |
| leakypipes | superdan: would you be cool with that? | 16:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Cleanup mount / umount and associated rmdir calls https://review.openstack.org/494423 | 16:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Move lvm handling to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/495516 | 16:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova master: Implement new attach Cinder flow https://review.openstack.org/330285 | 16:56 |
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| superdan | leakypipes: no real choice so yeah sure :) | 17:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/nova master: DNM: Test api-refs https://review.openstack.org/513819 | 17:57 |
| cfriesen | when running ironic, does it require configuring nova-scheduler differently than normal? The existance of nova/scheduler/ironic_host_manager.py, makes me wonder. | 17:57 |
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| MikeW | Hey which components of the nova services emit these notifications to rabbitmq: compute.instance.create.end and compute.instance.delete.start? | 18:09 |
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| MikeW | Wondering on what I need to touch to integrate designate-sink in my system and hoping I can void compute hosts, and just modify like nova-scheduler or nova-api | 18:10 |
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| MikeW | Anyone here have experience with nova/designate integration over the message queue? | 18:43 |
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| mriedem | mlavalle: remind me, can you live migrate from an ovs vif type to a linuxbridge vif type, or vice versa, today? or does that require a reboot once the instance is on the dest host? | 18:49 |
| mriedem | i thought no because the source host doesn't know the dest host vif type to use to configure the guest before the live migration starts - which is part of what sean's spec is trying to fix | 18:49 |
| mlavalle | that's my understanding as well | 18:49 |
| mriedem | cool - just working on project update slides | 18:50 |
| mlavalle | :-) | 18:50 |
| mriedem | want to make sure i correctly promise the world | 18:50 |
| mlavalle | LOL | 18:50 |
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| superdan | mriedem: correct | 18:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova master: Implement new attach Cinder flow https://review.openstack.org/330285 | 19:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor test_resource_provider https://review.openstack.org/513834 | 19:31 |
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| mriedem | superdan: this doesn't seem kosher https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509107/2/os_vif/objects/subnet.py | 19:38 |
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| superdan | mriedem: that's because it's not | 19:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Include /resource_providers/uuid/allocations link https://review.openstack.org/499826 | 20:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: console: introduce basic framework for security proxying https://review.openstack.org/345396 | 20:21 |
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| mriedem | anthonyper: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/465160/ - talks about only allowing numa in the libvirt driver if using kvm | 20:27 |
| mriedem | questions in there about numa support for libvirt+xen | 20:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Include /resource_providers/uuid/allocations link https://review.openstack.org/499826 | 20:36 |
| * fried_rice enters the race to add microversion 1.11 | 20:37 | |
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| BenderRodriguez | fried_rice: help me fix my issues | 20:40 |
| BenderRodriguez | installing openstack | 20:40 |
| fried_rice | BenderRodriguez I think you want the #openstack channel for that. | 20:40 |
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| fried_rice | mriedem Say, do we want to update the channel topic to reference the Queens release schedule at this point? | 20:41 |
| mriedem | fried_rice: first, "say" is how my 60-something day starts a sentence, | 20:42 |
| mriedem | second, yes | 20:42 |
| mriedem | superdan: ^ | 20:42 |
| fried_rice | Dude, what's with all the ageist talk lately? | 20:42 |
| mriedem | s/day/dad/ | 20:42 |
| * fried_rice is gonna start calling people "sonny". | 20:43 | |
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| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o superdan | 20:43 | |
| *** superdan changes topic to "This channel is for Nova development. For support of Nova deployments, please use #openstack. Please see: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Queens_Release_Schedule" | 20:43 | |
| fried_rice | whee | 20:43 |
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| BenderRodriguez | Why in the world | 20:44 |
| BenderRodriguez | is openstack still running on top of 2.7 | 20:44 |
| BenderRodriguez | what is wrong with you developers/ | 20:44 |
| BenderRodriguez | python 2.7 that is | 20:44 |
| superdan | dang, dropped op a little too early | 20:44 |
| fried_rice | was gonna say | 20:44 |
| mriedem | BenderRodriguez: you can run it on 3.5 | 20:45 |
| mriedem | it's not really a nova thing, | 20:45 |
| mriedem | it's a packaging thing | 20:45 |
| mriedem | and we don't control the packages | 20:45 |
| BenderRodriguez | hmmm | 20:45 |
| BenderRodriguez | what version of python are unit tests run on | 20:45 |
| BenderRodriguez | pre-deployment | 20:45 |
| mriedem | 27 and 35 | 20:45 |
| BenderRodriguez | ok good | 20:45 |
| mriedem | unit tests, functional tests and integration tests | 20:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: propagate OSError to MigrationPreCheckError https://review.openstack.org/469779 | 20:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Add alternate hosts https://review.openstack.org/486215 | 20:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Add Selection objects https://review.openstack.org/499239 | 20:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Return Selection objects from the scheduler driver https://review.openstack.org/495854 | 20:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Change RPC for select_destinations() https://review.openstack.org/510159 | 20:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Move the claim_resources method to scheduler utils https://review.openstack.org/511357 | 20:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Make conductor pass and use host_lists https://review.openstack.org/511358 | 20:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Trivial: fix spelling of allocation_request https://review.openstack.org/513847 | 20:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Adds 'sata' as a valid disk bus for qemu and kvm hypervisors https://review.openstack.org/459794 | 21:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: placement: add nested resource providers https://review.openstack.org/377138 | 21:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: placement: allow filter providers in tree https://review.openstack.org/377215 | 21:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: placement: adds REST API for nested providers https://review.openstack.org/384807 | 21:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: placement: update client to set parent provider https://review.openstack.org/385693 | 21:20 |
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| fried_rice | leakypipes Are we gonna forbid changing traits on an RP with allocations? | 21:34 |
| fried_rice | iow, you have to be able to go back and validate traits constraints of an existing deployment after the fact? | 21:35 |
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| leakypipes | fried_rice: I think *removing* traits where the provider has allocations should be prevented, yes. | 21:38 |
| leakypipes | fried_rice: adding new ones is cool though | 21:38 |
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| fried_rice | leakypipes So why is it important that trait constraints be satisfied after the deploy has already happened? | 21:39 |
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| fried_rice | leakypipes We already said you could reduce inventory totals / increase reserved amounts / change allocation ratios after the fact, even to the point of being overcommitted, and you would simply not get deployed again until you came out of the red. | 21:40 |
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| fried_rice | leakypipes This seems like an extension of the same principle. | 21:40 |
| leakypipes | fried_rice: because if you asked for (and got) 10G of DISK_GB and STORAGE_DISK_SSD trait, and we remove that trait from that provider, you no longer satisfy the request that caused you to land on that node. | 21:40 |
| fried_rice | leakypipes Yeah, so I don't see how that's a problem. | 21:41 |
| fried_rice | I mean, I don't know that it's a problem to forbid it either; just seems like an unnecessary check. | 21:41 |
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| leakypipes | fried_rice: maybe. honestly, it's 5:45pm on a Friday and I'm burnt out today. | 21:42 |
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| fried_rice | leakypipes Ight, I'll drop the question in the review for later. Have a good weekend. | 21:42 |
| leakypipes | you too fried_rice | 21:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Elod Illes proposed openstack/nova master: Transform keypair.import notification https://review.openstack.org/467514 | 21:45 |
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| figleaf | fried_rice: You could add that to Open Discussion on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaScheduler | 21:46 |
| fried_rice | figleaf Good idea, thanks. | 21:46 |
| fried_rice | figleaf And split-RC/split-traits | 21:47 |
| figleaf | fried_rice: and whatever else tickles your fancy | 21:47 |
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| rm_work | Can VMs be migrated to hosts in a different AZ? Does it matter? | 22:09 |
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| rm_work | https://docs.openstack.org/nova/pike/admin/configuring-migrations.html#section-configuring-compute-migrations says: "In a multi-cell cloud, instances can be live migrated to a different host in the same cell, but not across cells." | 22:10 |
| rm_work | Can one cell belong to multiple AZs? | 22:10 |
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| rm_work | Or am I thinking about this wrong | 22:10 |
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| artom | rm_work, VMs can't be migrated different AZs | 22:25 |
| artom | (Slight oversimplification, but still) | 22:25 |
| rm_work | hmm | 22:25 |
| rm_work | ok | 22:25 |
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| rm_work | would take the slightly less brief explanation if you have time :) | 22:25 |
| artom | An operator/admin can force it by bypassing the scheduler, I believe | 22:26 |
| rm_work | ^^ johnsom | 22:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Remove doc todo related to bug/1506667 https://review.openstack.org/509315 | 22:39 |
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