Spazmotic | I will head to the gym and think on it. Poor brain. | 00:00 |
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fried_rice | Spazmotic You don't have to muck with allocations for anything other than the single consumer you're dealing with. | 00:00 |
Spazmotic | Well my brain was on something like data-loss scenarios for resource providers and there is no current way to clear out a resource provider and avoid the stuck allocations. | 00:01 |
fried_rice | Data loss like how? | 00:01 |
Spazmotic | For something like large cinder hosts later, or even large compute nodes, the ability to remove those resource allocations to free up the usages for the tenant | 00:01 |
Spazmotic | Well data_loss is a bit of a specific term, but even a compute_node going down with no intention to ever return | 00:02 |
Spazmotic | Or going down to be headshot and coming back up empty and fresh | 00:02 |
fried_rice | Okay, yes, one can imagine some kind of healing periodic task that goes through all consumers in placement and makes sure they still exist in the world. If not, delete their allocations. | 00:02 |
fried_rice | But there's nothing about the API, current or imagined, that's going to help with the intricacies of that scenario. | 00:03 |
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Spazmotic | I'm not sure if a self heal would be able to detect it really, the only idea that my brain could grasp at is a manual call to empty a reserve host. The only way I could see a self heal identifying that is if you set a timeout for a RP to come back online or wipe it out, which seems dangerous :D | 00:04 |
fried_rice | Right you are. No universally good solution there. | 00:05 |
Spazmotic | Thanks for the morning discussion man.. i gotta get moving and get to the gym | 00:05 |
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Spazmotic | oh.. and resizing allocations would be a nice usecase for that ability as well I think. I think right now you're correct that the amount of allocations would not be too bad to manage, but I was more thinking in a future of Placements being its own product. You could easilly start to see tenant allocations pushing 10,000+ which seems a bit heavy for every time small allocation changes would need to be made, like | 00:25 |
Spazmotic | changing the resource values of a single allocation. | 00:25 |
Spazmotic | whew... alright that's enough placement insanity i need some wine this weekend to make myself stop thinking hehehe | 00:25 |
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fried_rice | Spazmotic Drinking sounds like a good plan. But I am curious to know what kind of scenario would have a *single* consumer with tens of thousands of allocations. | 00:28 |
fried_rice | I need to bail now too, but I'm interested in continuing this conversation. Have a good weekend. | 00:30 |
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alex_xu | sean-k-mooney: yea, I assume granular request needs more magic sql to be done, that is hard to finish in this release. so supporting single request group first | 00:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Brianna Poulos proposed openstack/nova master: Add trusted_certs object https://review.openstack.org/489408 | 02:08 |
openstackgerrit | Brianna Poulos proposed openstack/nova master: Add trusted_image_certificates to REST API https://review.openstack.org/486204 | 02:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Pass multiattach flag to reserve_block_device_name https://review.openstack.org/531244 | 02:48 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: ProviderTree.data => ProviderData https://review.openstack.org/533244 | 02:48 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: SchedulerReportClient.set_traits_for_provider https://review.openstack.org/532564 | 02:48 |
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Spazmotic | Will try to spend tonight learning more about semaphores for concurrency avoidance.. | 04:08 |
Spazmotic | oslo hurts me | 04:14 |
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Spazmotic | Busy day.. no coding today.. talk you all tomorrow | 13:45 |
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efried | mgoddard set_traits_for_provider has merged FYI | 14:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Michael Bayer proposed openstack/nova master: Generalize DB conf group copying https://review.openstack.org/484908 | 17:44 |
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: zuul.openstack.org has been restarted due to an unexpected issue. We were able to save / reload queues however new patchsets during the restart may have been missed. Please recheck if needed. | 20:15 | |
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openstackgerrit | Brianna Poulos proposed openstack/nova master: Add trusted_image_certificates to REST API https://review.openstack.org/486204 | 20:47 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/535919 | 22:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Track associated sharing RPs in report client https://review.openstack.org/526539 | 22:27 |
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