Friday, 2018-06-08

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openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: placement: Use INNER JOIN for requied traits  https://review.openstack.org/57311300:48
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openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Test alloc_cands with indirectly sharing RPs  https://review.openstack.org/51960101:05
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openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Fix nits in nested provider allocation candidates(2)  https://review.openstack.org/57347501:20
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mriedem_afkalex_xu: that sounds like a nightmare to manage01:23
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mriedemalex_xu: there the discussion in dublin about using glare to store bm config and then nova could pass that along to ironic01:24
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alex_xumriedem_afk: not sure how much people deploy glare...01:40
mriedem_afkalex_xu: this could give them a reason01:40
mriedem_afkbut yes agree with you01:40
alex_xumriedem_afk: just hope a simple design01:41
alex_xumriedem_afk: what is the point about manage nightmare?01:42
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mriedem_afkmanaging bios config traits per node for thousands of nodes01:43
mriedem_afkif it's all automated by some other external service, then maybe not a big deal01:43
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mriedem_afkbut traits have to be mapped to flavors too01:44
mriedem_afkif you have something like tacker that is single tenant and just creates flavors on demand, then maybe not a big deal (again)01:44
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alex_xumriedem_afk: so the key problem is we should decouple the configuration and the flavor?01:48
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mriedem_afkyeah i think so01:54
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mriedemthe idea in dublin was to post your config in glare, get an id handle, and then pass that artifact_id with nova server create and nova would get the artifact from glare and pass it on to the virt driver01:54
alex_xumriedem: yea, i see, why we say no for the instance metadata?01:56
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mriedemyou'd need to read https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408151/01:58
mriedemalso, unrelated, but it looks like i'm able to filter servers with --ip6 even when using compute api version 2.101:58
mriedembut --ip6 filter support was added in 2.501:58
alex_xumriedem: ah, thanks, I'm looking for this spec in the ironic, then I didn't found it...01:58
mriedemoh i know why01:59
mriedemi'm running as admin01:59
alex_xumriedem: yea, in memory, we expose filter to the non-admin with microversion02:00
mriedemah yes02:01
mriedemip6 is ignored for non-admin before 2.502:01
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pvchi02:03
pvccan anyone help me with gpu passthorught02:03
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mriedemalex_xu: re: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/compute-api-microversion-gap-in-osc02:04
mriedempvc: naichuans might be able to02:04
pvcI've successfully passthrough the video card of my compute node to my instance02:05
naichuans:)02:05
pvcbut when im installing nvidia driver it seems that my compute node is rebooting or cant access and cant ping02:05
alex_xumriedem: thanks god we needn't add support for every microversion in osc02:06
pvcThen im rebooting my compute node so i can ping it again but when i reboot my VM i cannot access again my compute node02:06
pvcany idea naichuans?02:06
naichuanspvc: Which hypervisor arew you using?02:06
pvcim using Centos Queens02:06
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pvci think i misconfigured on compute node?02:07
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pvcbut i can see the videocard on my instance02:07
pvcbut fail when running nvidia-smi02:07
pvcNVIDIA-SMI has failed because it couldn't communicate with the NVIDIA driver. Make sure that the latest NVIDIA driver is installed and running. ubuntu 16.0402:08
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naichuansstrange, install driver looks no effect on compute node. Do you change anything in nova.conf02:09
pvcyes wait02:10
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pvcnaichuans http://paste.openstack.org/show/722937/02:12
naichuanspvc: will check it02:12
pvcyou want to see grub.cgf too on my compute?02:12
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naichuansyes, plase02:12
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pvcnaichuans http://paste.openstack.org/show/722938/02:15
pvcim planning to test tensorflow02:16
naichuansgot it~02:16
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pvcthis is the flavor and image i used02:17
pvcnaichuans http://paste.openstack.org/show/722939/02:17
pvcdo i need to add something?02:19
openstackgerritShuo Liu proposed openstack/nova-specs master: fix spelling mistake  https://review.openstack.org/57347902:20
naichuanspvc: haven't find anything wrong yet. I will check if I could found something. By the way, I saw you are using KVM, maybe bauzas: could help because he is an expert on vgpu in KVM.02:21
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (2)  https://review.openstack.org/57348102:22
pvchi sir bauzas02:23
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pvcdo you have docs on how to install driver for ubuntu naichuans02:25
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naichuanspvc: No, but for VM side, I think it is no different with physical machines, you can get them from google02:26
pvcits weird that when i spawn up an instance i cant reach my compute node02:27
pvcdo i need to use UEFI?02:27
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naichuansI have no idea yet. But that's would not effect compute node.02:29
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pvcis this right naichuans http://paste.openstack.org/show/722940/02:35
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pvcis my step okay now queens release?02:36
pvci mean the way i configure my compute02:36
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naichuanspvc: looks OK for me, will confirm it with hypervisor guys02:40
pvcthank you so much naichuans02:41
pvci need to enable it :( for tensorflow migration02:42
naichuanspvc: Np~02:42
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openstackgerritShuo Liu proposed openstack/nova-specs master: fix spelling mistake in rst file  https://review.openstack.org/57348702:49
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naichuanspvc: I wonder you are using the wrong pci vendor/prodcut id. Did you find the id in /sys/bus/pci?03:04
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openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed openstack/nova master: Switch to oslo_messaging.ConfFixture.transport_url  https://review.openstack.org/57304603:26
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pvcnaichuans where on sys/bus/pci03:36
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pvcnaichuans http://paste.openstack.org/show/722945/03:37
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naichuanspvc: yes, you could find some information like `00:02.0 Display controller [0380]: Intel Corporation Iris Pro Graphics P6300 ` using lspci, then find ids in `/sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:00:02.0`, do `cat device`/`cat vendor`03:40
naichuansmostly vendor should be `0x8086`, your configuration looks different.03:41
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pvcwait naichuans03:57
pvchere naichuans http://paste.openstack.org/show/722946/03:58
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pvchttp://paste.openstack.org/show/722947/03:59
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naichuanspvc: yes, it is different from your configure in nova.conf http://paste.openstack.org/show/722937/05:09
pvcmay i know what should i input there? naichuans? can you do a paste again?05:10
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pvcnaichuans thank you05:14
naichuanspvc:  could you try http://paste.openstack.org/show/722948/?05:14
naichuanspvc: Not sure it can fix your issue or not, just have a try :)05:14
pvcokay thank you so much :)05:15
naichuansNp05:15
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pvcon the /etc/modprobe.d  should i edit something or my config is okay now? i use vfio-pci05:22
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pvcnaichuans http://paste.openstack.org/show/722949/05:22
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naichuanspvc: I'm not clear about that configure, sorry05:24
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pvci need to hide nouveau right?05:30
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naichuansI didn't try, maybe native driver is better05:39
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Zuul stopped receiving gerrit events around 04:00UTC; any changes submitted between then and now will probably require a "recheck" comment to be requeued. Thanks!06:01
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pvcnaichuans how can i enable UEFI support?06:19
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openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Return all resources in provider_summaries  https://review.openstack.org/55804506:25
openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Return all providers - multiple providers  https://review.openstack.org/55948006:25
openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Return all providers - single provider  https://review.openstack.org/57354506:25
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openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Fix nits in nested provider allocation candidates(2)  https://review.openstack.org/57347506:37
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openstackgerritNaichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: xenapi(N-R-P): Add API to support vgpu resource provider create  https://review.openstack.org/52031306:45
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Create specs directory for Stein  https://review.openstack.org/57360207:06
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openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Add microversion for nested allocation candidate  https://review.openstack.org/56548707:15
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openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Fix nits in placement-return-all-resources series  https://review.openstack.org/57360407:34
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openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Optimize member_of check for nested providers  https://review.openstack.org/57320307:38
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: API: add support to abort queued live migration in microversion 2.63  https://review.openstack.org/57313608:31
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pvchi anyone know how can i cluster a GTX 1080 TI GPU?08:34
pvcnaichuans i switch to other GPU08:35
pvcit's working now on GTX 1080 TI i7 Core08:35
pvcbut not on GTX 63008:35
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Don't report DISK_GB if sharing  https://review.openstack.org/56045908:45
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openstackgerritYikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Add policy to InstanceGroup object and api models.  https://review.openstack.org/56337508:57
openstackgerritYikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Add InstanceGroupPolicy object  https://review.openstack.org/57362808:57
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pvcnaichuans gpu:2 what is that means?09:18
pvcon the property in the flavor09:18
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openstackgerritShuo Liu proposed openstack/nova master: fix keytone to keystone in releasenotes.po  https://review.openstack.org/57364009:30
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openstackgerritjiang wei proposed openstack/nova master: Add action initiator attribute to the instance info  https://review.openstack.org/53624309:33
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: API: add support to abort queued live migration in microversion 2.63  https://review.openstack.org/57313610:08
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openstackgerritBhagyashri Shewale proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Don't report DISK_GB if sharing  https://review.openstack.org/56045910:27
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pvcnaichuans are you busy?10:31
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pvcanyone not busy?10:39
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Test boot with more ports with bandwidth request  https://review.openstack.org/57331711:31
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add request_spec.RequestGroup versioned object  https://review.openstack.org/56884012:02
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-novaclient master: Remove PyPI downloads  https://review.openstack.org/57327812:24
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finucannotefried: https://github.com/tox-dev/tox/issues/425#issuecomment-28594153212:54
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fried_ricefinucannot: looking...13:21
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finucannotfried_rice: tl;dr: tox devs recognize it as an open bug13:21
finucannotbut that still doesn't help us right now, unfortunately :(13:22
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Start populating NUMACell.network_info field  https://review.openstack.org/56444113:30
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: objects: Add InstanceNUMANetworkInfo object  https://review.openstack.org/56444213:30
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: network: Unchain _get_phynet_info from _get_port_vnic_info  https://review.openstack.org/56444313:30
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: network: Add 'create_resource_requests' to network API  https://review.openstack.org/56444413:30
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: network: Add '_get_network_tunnel_status'  https://review.openstack.org/56444513:30
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fried_ricefinucannot: Thanks for that.13:30
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fried_ricefinucannot: So what seems reasonable to me is:13:32
fried_riceFor tox.inis that have explicit sections for the auto envs, set basepython=python3 in [testenv] and set basepython=<exact_x.y_version> in the explicit sections.13:32
fried_riceFor tox.inis that don't have sections for the auto envs, do the thing we've been doing, but add a TODO in the [testenv] section saying:13:32
fried_rice# TODO: put basepython=python3 here and remove from individual envs once https://github.com/tox-dev/tox/issues/425#issuecomment-285941532 is fixed.13:32
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finucannotI noted it on some random review, but I'd be happy just to do the latter for everything. It hardly seems worth the effort to be have to think about this stuff13:34
finucannot*but* if it annoys you, the above makes sense :)13:35
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fried_ricefinucannot: Unnecessary repetition is just a serious bugbear for me13:36
gibletis it just me or the gate suffers ? http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/zuul-status13:37
finucannotgiblet: All the -2s? Yeah, I've been seeing that too13:37
fried_ricefinucannot: Am I -1 on any of them at the moment?  Cause the other option is for me to just back away and let others approve these.  Because as you say, it's not the end of the world.13:37
finucannotfried_rice: Just the nova one, iirc?13:38
gibletfinucannot: looking at the test nodes graph on that dashboard shows that everything stuck13:38
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fried_ricefinucannot: The nova one has explicit sections for the auto envs.  So we could do that first thing I mentioned.  (With comments saying "this can be removed once issue XXX is fixed".13:39
fried_rice)13:39
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finucannotgiblet: Looks like fungi and co have noticed it already, if #openstack-infra is to be believed13:39
gibletfinucannot: ohh, thanks13:39
finucannotfried_rice: Yup, agreed. I think I said as much in the review13:39
finucannotJust a matter of who's going to do it13:40
gibletfinucannot: I only checked the infra status wiki13:40
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fried_ricefinucannot: okay, I just got here (long story), haven't caught up on my gerrit overnight yet.  I'd be happy to make that change.13:40
fungiapparently an ubuntu security update for unbound (the local caching resolver we run on all our servers) failed to successfully restart on many of our zuul executors and so they spontaneously ceased being able to resolve any dns names13:40
fried_riceIs that bad?13:40
fungithe only real downside to unattended security upgrades13:41
fried_riceHey, it's secure at least.13:41
fungisecurely broken :/13:41
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jrollevery service is secure when it doesn't run :P13:41
fungianyway, fixed now and yes, thanks for the reminder that we didn't log that giblet13:41
gibletfungi: thanks for working on the issue :)13:42
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: A misapplied distro security package update caused many jobs to fail with a MERGER_FAILURE error between ~06:30-12:30 UTC; these can be safely rechecked now that the problem has been addressed13:47
fungigiblet: sure, it was mostly frickler and ianw who figured it out and fixed it13:48
fungibut you're welcome nonetheless13:48
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-novaclient master: fix tox python3 overrides  https://review.openstack.org/57334713:53
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openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: fix tox python3 overrides  https://review.openstack.org/57297413:58
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fried_ricefinucannot: ^13:58
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finucannotlovely14:00
mdboothfinucannot: Was that an attempt at buffer overflow?14:00
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finucannotmdbooth: Notifications cause my screen to lock up for an indeterminate period. No idea what's wrong :(14:01
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openstackgerritJay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: placement: always create consumer records  https://review.openstack.org/56767814:12
openstackgerritJay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: add consumers generation field  https://review.openstack.org/55795814:12
openstackgerritJay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: placement: Allocation.consumer field  https://review.openstack.org/56540514:12
openstackgerritJay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: rework allocation handler _allocations_dict()  https://review.openstack.org/56540714:12
openstackgerritJay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: Add a microversion for consumer generation support  https://review.openstack.org/56560414:12
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fried_ricekashyap: libvirt isn't the only hypervisor, dude.14:14
* kashyap on a call; will read scroll in a bit14:14
kashyapBut there are other "hypervisor dudes" here too14:14
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fried_ricekashyap: Nothing to scroll, referring to the >26 volumes discussion on the ML.14:16
fried_ricekashyap: Your response reads like "Well, because this libvirt-specific thing handles 256, we should make the limit 256."14:16
kashyapfried_rice: Err, sorry.  I misread your comment :-)14:16
kashyapHmm, true, I didn't mean it to imply that way.14:17
fried_ricekashyap: Sorry, it's a sore point for me.14:17
kashyapNo, no.  It's completel fine.14:17
kashyapI'm interested in data from other hypervisors too.  Can those just chime in?14:17
fried_ricekashyap: I appreciate how thoroughly you thought through and researched.14:17
kashyapI just meant to share whatever data I have from a libvirt PoV.  Didn't mean to say this is all "cut and dried".14:17
fried_ricekashyap: Yeah, I pestered the relevant folks from my team yesterday to respond to that.  We have scenarios where IBMi customers on POWER stripe data across literally hundreds of volumes.14:18
fried_riceI'll fup and bug them again.14:18
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: network: Unchain _get_phynet_info from _get_port_vnic_info  https://review.openstack.org/56444314:18
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: network: Add 'create_resource_requests' to network API  https://review.openstack.org/56444414:18
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: network: Retrieve tunneled status in '_get_network_info'  https://review.openstack.org/56444514:18
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kashyapfried_rice: I see, interesting.  I don't have access to POWER machine, so certainly I don't know its limitations14:19
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kashyap(Or capabilities)14:20
kashyapfried_rice: Also how is I/O performance across those many 100s of volumes?14:20
fried_ricekashyap: Oh, nobody does, that's totally understandable :)14:20
fried_ricekashyap: As I understand it, they did that striping specifically to achieve better performance.  So it must be... good.14:20
fried_ricekashyap: But I'm not the expert there.14:21
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kashyap(I suggested 256 as a potential number after looking through Kernel threads this morning, and all that testing done by the libguestfs folks.)14:21
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kashyapfried_rice: I see.  I'll check with some RHT folks have access to POWER machines14:21
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fried_ricekashyap: my SME says he wants the max to be 4k :)14:23
kashyapfried_rice: Ask them to respond with a bit more detail, please :-)14:24
mriedemdansmith: this is for you https://review.openstack.org/#/c/490015/14:24
fried_ricekashyap: Yeah, I'm doing that.  For some reason my guy didn't see the thread originally.14:24
dansmithmriedem: oh boy!14:24
fried_ricekashyap: I may wind up having to proxy his response.  But one way or another we'll get it out there :)14:24
mriedemosc didn't have host-evacuate-live so someone wants to add it14:24
dansmithwe really really should avoid more name confusion14:25
kashyapfried_rice: Sure, noting on his behalf is fine.  Just understanding the requirements of different hypervisors.  If it's not too unpalatable ... we can even conditionalize based on hypervisor?14:25
fried_ricehost-evacuate-live.  To me, that means "clear out this host by live-migrating all the instances off of it".  So that must not be what it does.14:26
fried_ricekashyap: That sounds like the right approach to me, and is what dansmith expressed as his first preference as well.14:26
kashyapfried_rice: Oh, I didn't see his response yet.14:26
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melwittmriedem, dansmith: I dunno if y'all saw but I added a -W to this https://review.openstack.org/569923 last night to signal that it's legit failing at least the xenserver, hyperv, and vmware third party CIs. so it seems there's some coordination we need to do there14:30
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melwittoh, the tempest change that disables the virtual interfaces tests hasn't merged yet, that would explain it https://review.openstack.org/57155614:32
melwittI didn't notice that last night14:32
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mriedemdansmith: yup hence my -1 on the change14:36
dansmithmriedem: yup14:36
mriedemfried_rice: that's exactly what it does14:36
fried_riceholy shit!14:36
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mriedemmelwitt: the 3rd party CIs must not be honoring depends-on14:37
fried_riceI know ^ is true for powervm ci.14:37
melwittmriedem: yeah, I didn't realize there was possibility of it working differently and not honoring14:38
fried_riceuh, sorry, we get it for zuul but not for tox?  Or something.14:38
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pvchi14:54
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pvccan i share the GPU on my compute node with 3 VMs?14:54
artompvc, only as of queens, with specific nvidia gpus14:58
pvcim using quens14:58
pvcmy compute node uses GTX 1080 TI14:58
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finucannotpvc: Then no, to the best of my knowledge14:59
finucannotYou're going to need an enterprise card with vGPU support to multiplex it15:00
finucannotOtherwise the best you can do is PCI passthrough which only allows it to be attached to one instance15:00
finucannotpvc: https://www.openstack.org/videos/vancouver-2018/call-it-real-virtual-gpus-in-nova15:01
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pvcso if ever i launch instance with flavor property of gtx:2, i cannot use it again to launch another VM right?15:02
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add requested_resources field to RequestSpec  https://review.openstack.org/56726715:03
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kashyapfried_rice: Hey, a quick question -- surely your SME has tested those 4K disks with just bare KVM?  I bet they haven't tested with OpenStack...15:03
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kashyapfried_rice: Because, I doubt OpenStack as it stands will handle those many in a graceful manner, even with POWER...15:04
pvcfinucannot in order to use GPU clustering i need a vGPU supoprt right15:04
finucannotpvc: Assuming gtx is a PCI alias, that is correct15:04
pvci see. thats why i can launch just one instance15:04
fried_ricekashyap: Not KVM.  POWER is a different hypervisor.  The 4k disks thing was using IBMi guests, I believe.15:04
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kashyapfried_rice: Err, thinko.15:05
fried_ricekashyap: But you're right, I doubt it was openstack - it was probably just HMC.15:05
pvcis nvidia tesla good finucannot?15:05
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melwittpvc: this is the support matrix for nvidia vgpu https://docs.nvidia.com/grid/latest/product-support-matrix/index.html15:06
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finucannotpvc: NVIDIA would like to say so :) I've no personal experience with that or any other enterprise-grade GPU15:06
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kashyapfried_rice: Nod.  What is HMC?  (My brain throws AcronymNotFound exception...)15:07
pvcmelwitt thank you so GTX does not support vGPU sad, its okay finucannot thank you btw :)15:07
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kashyapfried_rice: Ha, it must be: Hardware Management Console15:07
fried_ricekashyap: Hardware Management Console, I think.  It's the classic POWER-specific hypervisor manager15:07
fried_riceyes15:07
kashyapOkido; thanks15:07
fried_ricekashyap: It's what all the old legacy POWER customers use to manage their virtualization.  It's an appliance server (can be a VM or a standalone box or whatever) running a specialized MCP with the management software on it.  It talks to the POWER hypervisor firmware thingy (PHYP) as well as the Virtual I/O Servers to do virtualization stuff on the system.15:09
fried_ricekashyap: Couple years ago we forked off a thing called NovaLink, which is a similar management stack, but it lives on a plain ol' Linux VM on the POWER box itself.  Idea being more scalability.15:10
kashyapfried_rice: Ah, I see.  And te modern customers use OpenStack?15:10
fried_ricekashyap: And it is on the NovaLink partition that we run the nova-compute service.15:10
fried_rice...so that modern customers can use openstack, yes.15:10
kashyapNoted; thans for the context.15:11
fried_ricekashyap: Note the major difference from the kvm model: the NovaLink partition manages the virtualization, but the VMs don't run "in" the NovaLink partition - they run on the system itself.15:11
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fried_ricekashyap: it's a weird concept for kvm folks.  Think of it this way: the NovaLink partition is a "peer" of the guest VMs.  They're all "logical partitions" (LPARs) on the POWER system.15:13
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add bandwidth related standard resource classes  https://review.openstack.org/57084715:13
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Transfer port.resource_request to the scheduler  https://review.openstack.org/56726815:13
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Send resource allocations in the port binding  https://review.openstack.org/56945915:13
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Test boot with more ports with bandwidth request  https://review.openstack.org/57331715:13
kashyapfried_rice: Yeah, was going to look up a bit about it to see how it compares.  Thanks for the info15:13
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fried_ricekashyap: Sure thing.  Thanks for listening :)15:14
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kashyapYeah, but just to note -- anytime I suggest something that is KVM/libvirt-specific, and not seem consider other hypervisors, it's largely due to my own ignorance...15:15
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mgagnewhen migrating flavor in newton, this moves flavor to api database. Will CellsV1 read from that database from now on?15:17
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dansmithmgagne: you mean cellsv2?15:19
mgagnecellsv115:19
mgagnebecause you can still run cellsv1 in newton right?15:19
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dansmithmgagne: the api will read it from the api database yeah, but nothing else changes15:20
dansmithmgagne: so you likely still need all the flavor replication bits or whatever you're doing I think15:20
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mgagneso will I need to create them in both api database and api/compute cells database?15:20
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mgagneright15:20
mgagnebut15:20
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mgagnedb sync complains if you don't migrate them all to api db15:20
mgagnein ocata I think15:21
dansmithyeah, I'm trying to roll back my brain to think about this15:21
dansmithmriedem: do you remember what belmiro said he was doing?15:21
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dansmiththey have an api db in each cellsv1 cell, IIRC, and they migrated the flavors to those api databases?15:22
mgagneI'm just trying to figure out something: I run online migration with newton. Flavors get moved to api database. But I also need to run online migration in compute cells right? (still cellsv1) Otherwise ocata complains. So I run that migration but it fails because flavors found in compute cells already exist in api database and migration fails silently with exit code 0. (and don't mark them as deleted in compute cell database)15:22
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mriedemcontext?15:23
mriedemi've been in osc land all day15:23
mgagnedansmith: they had an api db per cell due to per cell placement15:23
dansmithmgagne: are you sharing the api database amongst all the cellsv1 cells?15:23
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dansmithah, right,15:23
mgagnedansmith: yes15:23
dansmithso that's the difference between you and belmiro's approach15:23
mgagnewhich I assumed was the recommended way unless you wanted per cell placement service15:23
mgagneyes15:23
dansmithmgagne: so you'll probably have to hack that check out15:23
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dansmithwhich I think actually sam mentioned in YVR in passing15:24
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mgagneok, I don't mind hacking it. I just want to make sure that cellsv1 will read from api db now.15:24
mgagneok, I will rewatch the video15:24
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dansmithmgagne: it will read from the api db for things like flavor-list and nova boot... I'm not positive that there won't be other cellsv1-specific paths that aren't updated though15:25
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mgagnehehe, I understand the risk. I will rewatch the video and do some tests then.15:26
mriedemi believe in our nova-cells v1 job the child cell doesn't have access to the api db15:27
mriedemsince we have single placement we didn't need it15:27
mgagneright, belmiro mentioned that case in his talk15:27
dansmithmriedem: okay I'm surprised it doesn't need it somewhere, but cool if so15:27
mgagneI think it needs it?15:28
mriedemor i guess they do http://logs.openstack.org/68/569268/4/gate/nova-cells-v1/545ba44/logs/etc/nova/nova-cells.conf.txt.gz15:28
mgagnebecause I have it configured already. I think something complained about it.15:28
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mgagneso my bad, just a matter of paying more attention to belmiro's talk =)15:28
mriedem345 must be the migration that fails?15:29
mriedemyeah....15:29
mgagneyes15:30
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mriedem345 should probably have a CONF.cells.enable condition15:30
mgagnehe had a slide about those migrations15:30
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mgagnemriedem: was thinking the same ++15:30
mriedembut if we did that, you might not migrate your flavors to the api db and then you have other problems, i think?15:31
mriedemwe could log a warning, but likely no one would notice if db sync didn't fail15:31
mgagneyea, that's what I'm trying to figure out15:31
mriedemnova-status upgrade check would be good here15:31
dansmithmriedem: yeah and looking at conf in migrations got people into trouble before, so...15:31
mriedemif cells v1 and no flavors in api db, fail (nova-status check)15:31
mriedemat the very least, we need something in the 'upgrade from cells v1' docs15:32
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mriedemhttps://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/cells.html#upgrade-with-cells-v115:32
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mgagnemriedem: I think the special case that isn't documented yet is: if you wish to upgrade but wish to keep cellsv1 for reasons. what to do.15:33
mgagnebut I think it would create more confusion if it was in the "main" documentation.15:34
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mriedemwe havea cells faqs section...15:39
mriedem"DB migration 345 fails saying I haven't migrated all flavors to the API DB but I'm using cells v1 still..."15:39
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mriedemhttps://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/cells.html#faqs15:40
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mriedemmgagne: i guess let us know what you think would be most helpful for documenting this once you get past it - we could also put a comment in the db migration itself in case people are hitting it and then go there to see what's going on15:50
mgagnenice :D15:52
mgagneI managed to create a lightweight setup to test the migration so I can iterate faster. shouldn't be long before I get some interesting results15:53
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melwittmriedem: are you okay with a minor release bump on this based on the last comment? sounds like it might be more intuitive to people https://review.openstack.org/57345415:54
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mriedemi'm a big meh15:57
mriedemif we do a minor release for every os-traits updates, we'll just have a ton of minor updates15:57
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mriedems/updates/release/ on that first one15:57
melwittyeah15:57
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melwittinitially I had done a minor version bump locally before I saw that a past release did a patch bump. but I think the release prior to that one was a minor bump. it's been inconsistent16:00
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Fix unbound local when saving an unchanged RequestSpec  https://review.openstack.org/57376816:02
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cfriesenarguably a new trait is a new "feature", which would make it a minor update if you follow semver.  but so much of openstack doesn't anyways...16:04
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melwittI shall change it to a minor bump16:06
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cfriesenmriedem: thanks for starting that OSC etherpad.  you mentioned that aborting an in-progress migration doesn't really fit on the server resource.  From a user perspective it seems to me that "openstack server migration list" and "openstack server migration abort" would be sensible commands16:17
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Optional separate database for placement API  https://review.openstack.org/36276616:46
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Isolate placement database config  https://review.openstack.org/54143516:46
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Ensure that os-traits sync is attempted only at start of process  https://review.openstack.org/55385716:46
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Add PLACEMENT_DB_ENABLED=True to the nova-next job  https://review.openstack.org/56406717:02
jmlowecdent: You've got some migration path for getting existing placement db's out of nova_api db?17:02
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cdentjmlowe: we discussed that at summit (see https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-placement-extraction ) and the general consensus in the room was allowing people to do it manually according to whatever worked for them (there are a variety of options on the etherpad)17:04
jmloweok, I was probably harassing Jeremy at the time and missed it during that session17:05
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jmloweI'm probably good with stop, dump, restore to new db, start, make schemas diverge17:07
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cdentjmlowe: if you feel inclined to add that "I'm good with" to the etherpad, that would be a good datapoint17:08
jmlowedone17:09
cdentthanks17:12
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openstackgerritJan Gutter proposed openstack/os-vif master: [WIP] Add support for generic offload representors  https://review.openstack.org/57208117:41
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mgagnemriedem: with newton, if flavors are fully converted to object, wouldn't it mean that all code path use the API database to read the information since it goes through object? If running CellsV1, how could it still read from local cell database? Isn't the code reading from local gone in newton? But I found lot of notes by alaski telling models in non-api database is deprecated since they got moved to API database. So I'm a bit confused.18:21
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mriedemi believe the flavor object looks for the flavor in the api db and if not there, falls back to the cell db18:22
mgagneI'm trying to see if I just need to skip the migration and still continue creating flavor in compute cell OR if I can delete them since they got all moved to API database and everything should be reading from it.18:22
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/ocata/nova/objects/flavor.py#L40318:23
mriedemthat checks the api first then falls back to the cell db18:23
mgagneyes, that place.18:23
mriedemin ocata at least18:23
mriedemi know we dropped that compat code....18:23
mriedemgone in queens https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/queens/nova/objects/flavor.py#L37718:24
mgagnebut lets say I query an instance and join to flavor. Would the join use the flavor object or would db.api load the data first and use Flavor object later?18:24
mriedemthe instance.flavor is not in the flavors table,18:25
mgagnebecause it wouldn't make much sense to join instance to flavor cross databases right? I'm not familiar with that part tbh.18:25
mriedemit's in the instance_extras table18:25
dansmithmgagne: the instance has the flavor stashed with it in the cell db now18:25
dansmithyeah that18:25
mriedemthe instance.flavor is stored separately keyed per the the instance18:25
mgagneoh, you get a copy of the flavor right18:25
mriedemin case the flavor is deleted18:25
dansmithso you only need it in the api db for build and list18:25
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mgagneso this would mean I could delete content of instance_types in compute cell db just like the original migration tried to do.18:27
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mriedemyeah, the api isn't going to read flavors out of the cell dbs18:27
mgagneawesome news then18:27
dansmithprobably should to make sure nothing falls back to that when it shouldn't, since it'll go away18:27
mgagneyes, that's my main concern18:28
mgagneso if I skip flavor migration in cell, does it mean entries are now orphan and can be deleted (and not migrated). I guess that's my question.18:28
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mgagneI suppose I can test a bit.18:28
mriedemi believe so18:28
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mriedemwhen migrating flavors from child cells to the api db, it handles duplicates (per the flavorid) so should be fine https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/ocata/nova/objects/flavor.py#L75518:30
dansmithmgagne: if they're all the same then yeah18:30
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dansmithmgagne: which I think they have to be right?18:30
mgagneyes, they are the same.18:30
mriedemas in you could have m1.tiny in 4 cells but with different primary key ids, but the online data migration wouldn't carry over the primary key id, just create a new flavor in the api db18:30
mriedemright, for each flavor in cell db, create in api db, ignore duplicates18:30
mgagnemriedem: afaik, you can't have different primary key id =)18:30
dansmithyeah,18:31
mriedemwell, i mean you could have m1.tiny in different cells with the same id=118:31
dansmithbecause it's referenced directly by the instance by id18:31
mriedembut you can only have one m1.tiny in the api db18:31
dansmithmriedem: I don't hink so18:31
mgagnelot of gotcha in cellsv1 that assumes primary key is the same everywhere18:31
mriedemoh, well that i didn't know18:31
dansmithmriedem: in old school nova, instance.instance_type_id refers to flavor.id18:31
mriedemall the more reason to get off cells v1 :)18:31
dansmithso they have to be identical AFAIK18:31
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mgagneI got bitten in the past...18:31
dansmithare we comparing scars now?18:31
mgagnehehehe18:32
dansmith:)18:32
mriedemso i guess the 354 data migration blocker isn't so bad for you18:32
mriedemyou just needed to run the online data migratoin on each cell db18:32
mgagneI'm sure yours are more numerous than mines18:32
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mgagnealright, will go back to my ffu dungeon then :D18:33
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mriedemsay hi to lyaaaaaaaarwood for me18:34
mgagneis it a friend or some beast I should find and fight in the dungeon? :D18:35
mgagneoh, a ffu expert :D18:36
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Ensure resource class cache when listing usages  https://review.openstack.org/57381118:36
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mriedemlyaaaaaaaarwood is a level 12 FFU paladin with a ring of +3 "soft speaking"18:38
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mriedemcfriesen: https://review.openstack.org/57381318:46
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mriedemcfriesen: openstack server migration list / abort etc is probably good yeah18:49
mriedemsince we have openstack server migrate18:49
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mriedemand don't want to get confused with openstack volume migrate18:49
mriedemi leave stuff like that up to the osc ux wizards18:49
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* temka would like for some ffu ux wizards to exist18:54
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jrollis it expected that we should be able to run 'show' or 'delete' via openstackclient on instances in cell0?20:12
jrollusing ocata20:12
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jrolleven list bombs out20:12
* jroll pasting stack trace20:12
jrollhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/6YrSmjMSo0lIxyFjbPIz/20:13
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jrolllooks like it's hitting the wrong database when trying to refresh the instance in _load_flavor()20:13
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jrolllooks like this bug which expired: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/174916720:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1749167 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova show can not get an instance information, and this instance can be queried from nova list." [Undecided,Expired]20:14
jrollby the way bowser was trying to ask about the actual scheduling problem, sounds like maybe this is expected?20:14
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melwittjroll: I don't think it's expected20:17
melwittwe had bugs around instance list/show back then, which we fixed. I'm looking through bugs to see if any were this20:18
temkaThe fact that it's hitting it in flavor...20:18
* temka is vaguely reminded of something20:18
jrollI didn't immediately see it searching everything for "cell0"20:18
melwittyou have the latest ocata or an earlier one?20:18
jrollshould be latest, lemme verify20:18
melwittyeah, I'm not immediately finding anything either20:18
melwittit's hard to find these things20:19
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jrollwell wtf, our latest upstream commit is 125dd1f30fdaf50182256c56808a5199856383c720:19
jrollwhich was february20:20
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* jroll notes our CI tooling is broken20:20
melwittI'm not sure if it matters, just wanted to make sure I understand which code you have20:20
jrollit matters that I have a broken assumption :)20:20
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jrollsimilar: https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/e0c1d461af0701adb94e6974f363e12395ed016220:22
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jrollbut I don't think it's the same20:22
temkajroll, 2e68b2298e94a15d1282c0fb46804b9efa6c8b3a ?20:23
temkaSeems old tho20:23
jrollyeah, we would have that20:23
melwittit's trying to lazy-load the flavor from the database, first thing it does while doing that is the lookup the instance, and that is not found because it's looking in the wrong database20:24
jrollexactly20:24
melwittthis sounds so familiar, just not finding a bug that matches yet20:24
temkamelwitt, yep, same here20:24
temkaI swear I've seen this20:24
jrollmelwitt: in the meantime, we can manually delete it from cell0.instances and nova_api.instance_mappings, trigger a quota reset... will all the other tables get cleaned up on delete?20:25
melwittI will say that ocata is particularly fraught with problems because the way we were doing cell targeting back then had some fundamental problems which we changed in pike, but was a huge change that backporting would involve backporting a ton of disjointed things in pike, so we abandoned it20:28
jrollmmm20:28
melwitt(assuming that things are okay-enough in ocata. if they're not, then we have to find another way to solve it)20:28
melwittjroll: yeah, I think that would do it as a manual cleanup. are you seeing this on/during an upgrade or on already-upgraded-and-been-running clusters?20:29
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jrollmelwitt: already upgraded20:30
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jrollwe shut down the API for this upgrade20:30
melwittjroll: okay, so any new instance that fails to schedule gets in this un-listable state20:30
jrolltrying to verify that now20:31
jrollthis instance is still in BUILD, rather than ERROR20:31
jrolland is the only thing in instance_mappings with cell_id=NULL20:31
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melwittoh, that's interesting. but yet it's in cell0, in BUILD state but not ERROR20:31
jrollyep20:32
jrolland built > 16 hours ago20:32
melwittcell_id=NULL is a problem. that should be cell0 if it's in cell020:32
melwitthmm20:32
jrolltask_state=scheduling20:32
jrollso it's like it got dropped by rabbit or something? idk20:32
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melwittyeah, I dunno. we have also heard from CERN folks of some instance_mappings ending up with cell_id=NULL but I've not understood the conditions under which it happened20:33
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melwittwhile instances are in the middle of scheduling, they are supposed to be listed/shown using their build_requests in the nova_api database, IIRC20:35
jrollhm, can't run server show on other instances in cell0 either20:36
jrollso maybe that's unrelated20:36
jrollthough that 404s instead of 500s20:36
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jrollcell_id=1 doesn't break server list either, but doesn't show up in the response20:37
melwittokay, first check the db connection string for cell0 in nova_api.cell_mappings and make sure it's right, then look in nova_api.instance_mappings and check if cell_id is cell0, then check if the instance is in nova_cell0.instances. that's how it's all connected20:38
jrollyeah, that's all correct20:39
melwittit will go instance_mappings.cell_id => db connect to cell_mappings.cell_id database_connection string => <cell database>.instances (if the instance has completed scheduling, either via success or error)20:39
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melwittif it did not complete scheduling, it will live in build_requests only and have cell_id=NULL, I believe20:40
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jrollnod20:40
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melwitt:/ okay, if that's all correct I don't understand how it could _not_ be able to 'nova show' it20:40
melwittdoes that still fail with the flavor lazy-load thing?20:41
jrolldigging logs now for the 40420:41
melwittmeaning, the instance that checks out as far as all the things connected properly, fails on the flavor lazy-load?20:41
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jrollright, so the one that is properly mapped to cell020:44
jrollis throwing a 40420:44
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jrollHTTP exception thrown: Instance 75e193c5-6700-4d67-be44-7020fb4129ed could not be found.20:45
* jroll turns on debug20:45
melwittokay20:45
melwittstill trying to parse whether that lazy-load read_deleted bug you linked earlier is this or not20:46
melwittthe bug seems light on details20:46
jrollyeah, ditto20:46
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melwittokay, so this is about deleted instances not being found when trying to lazy-load other instance properties. that seems kinda chicken and egg. (how did you get the deleted instance to lazy-load from in the first place?)20:48
melwittbut your instances have not been deleted, so I think it's probably not the same bug20:49
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melwittjroll: what's your service version for the nova-osapi_compute service?20:51
melwittprobably in nova_cell0.services20:52
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jrollright, not deleted20:52
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jrolldebug logs gave me jack20:54
jrollno records in nova_cell0.services O_o20:54
melwittmust be in a different db then, I don't know where to expect it20:54
melwittoh, maybe just nova?20:55
jroll16 in nova yeah20:55
melwittthe non-compute service records are all together. okay20:55
jrollbah, dogs need to go out, bbiab20:55
melwittk20:56
melwittso you should be in here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/ocata/nova/compute/api.py#L2322-L234720:56
melwittoh, wait, it never even gets there. uuugggh21:00
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melwittthis is trying to look up the instance long before instance mappings are even begun to be examined21:00
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jrollthe "bad" one does get that far21:03
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jrollbut can't tell on the "good" one since there's no traceback or anything on the 40421:04
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jrollI need to take off shortly, can write up something in launchpad for now?21:05
jrollalmost seems like two separate bugs21:05
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melwittyes, that would be helpful. thanks. I'll comment there on the bug21:06
jrollok, I'll make two reports21:06
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jrolloh I'm an idiot, that "good" one is deleted, I'm sorry21:09
melwittoh, heh. that's okay21:09
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melwittthe one I'm looking at is the one in your original paste. tracing through to get straight what is happening on that one21:10
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jrollok :)21:11
jrollI'm just going to reopen https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1749167, looks to be the same21:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1749167 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova show can not get an instance information, and this instance can be queried from nova list." [Undecided,Expired]21:11
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melwittis it? this bug says they can see the instance with 'nova list' but can't delete it21:12
melwittyour paste shows a failure to 'nova list' at all21:13
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jrolloh, good point21:16
jrollok, I'll open anew21:16
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melwittif the 'nova list' involves deleted instances too, then the bug you linked earlier about lazy-load read_deleted="yes" may well fix your problem21:19
melwittI guess that would only make sense if you did 'nova list --deleted'21:20
jrollhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/177593421:21
openstackLaunchpad bug 1775934 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Cannot run "openstack server list" with instance stuck in scheduling state" [Undecided,New]21:21
jrollyeah, this isn't with deleted21:21
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melwittk, thanks21:21
jrollwriting that I now understand why bauzus was trying to figure out how it got in that state21:21
jrollI guess we probably don't expect it to work with an invalid cell mapping21:21
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melwittwell, if there's an invalid cell_mapping, it's supposed to use the data from nova_api.build_requests21:22
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melwittrather, if InstanceMapping.cell_id=NULL it should be using nova_api.build_requests and using that to list and not failing21:23
jrollwell, that's an empty table :/21:23
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melwittbuild_requests is empty?21:23
jrollyep21:23
melwitthuh. that is weird21:24
jrollindeed21:24
mriedempretty sure it doesn't work that way21:24
mriedemthis is the same thing surya was talking about on wednesday21:24
mriedemwe look for a build request and if not there, we look for an instance mapping with a cell21:24
mriedemif the build request is gone, the instance mapping should have a cell mapping because we delete the build request after updating the instance mapping21:25
melwittthis shows if mapped, we look in the cell db, else we look at build requests https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/ocata/nova/compute/api.py#L2322-L234721:25
mriedemhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/177394521:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1773945 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova client servers.list crashes with bad marker" [Medium,Triaged] - Assigned to Surya Seetharaman (tssurya)21:25
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mriedemok, but could be hitting ^21:26
mriedemwhere the build request is gone but the instance mapping doesn't have a cell mapping in it21:26
melwittah, okay21:26
melwittjroll: build requests don't get soft-deleted so could be empty if everything got cleaned up properly21:27
jrolloh nice, thanks mriedem21:27
melwittyour traceback is different than that one, but could it be the same root cause?21:28
jrollprobably21:28
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jrollI have to bounce but pointed internal folks at that bug and the one I filed21:29
jrollI can update monday if they found anything new21:29
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jrollthanks for all the help melwitt, mriedem21:29
melwittbased on your traceback, it looks like the instance get_all from compute/api succeeded but then you failed when the REST API code tried to access instance.get_flavor(), it wanted to lazy-load it. but that attribute should have been pre-loaded. so I don't get that yet21:30
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melwittjroll: thanks for letting us know about the bug21:31
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mriedemthat lazy load failure sounds familiar21:32
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mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/5a363a0d72e7dd8d79d7e950effc1d8a5fdc801b#diff-1b01e8e37be9d889295e5333b785713921:34
mriedemthat's likely not it21:34
mriedemprobably something else in the api code21:34
melwittso they get here and fail during flavor lazy-load https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/ocata/nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py#L369 but it seems "impossible" that they could have gotten there with cell_id=NULL + build_requests table empty21:38
melwittoh actually that's get_all so different than what I was looking at get earlier21:39
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melwittokay so that does make sense, the get_all in compute/api would find whatever is in the cell dbs regardless of cell_mapping=None. so that would succeed. but should also have flavor preloaded on the instance objects returned, so why is a lazy-load happening21:43
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melwittnothing should have been created from build requests if the build_requests table is empty...21:44
melwittmaybe he tried that test earlier when there were build requests still. that would make sense, if some items in the instance list were "shell" instances created from build_requests, then instance.get_flavor() would trigger a lazy-load21:47
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melwittjroll: if you could show nova_cell0.instance_extra for that instance it might help too21:56
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melwittmaybe not actually. I was trying to think whether the embedded flavor was even there but it might not be relevant21:58
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Optional separate database for placement API  https://review.openstack.org/36276623:30
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Isolate placement database config  https://review.openstack.org/54143523:30
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Ensure that os-traits sync is attempted only at start of process  https://review.openstack.org/55385723:30
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Add PLACEMENT_DB_ENABLED=True to the nova-next job  https://review.openstack.org/56406723:31
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Extract part of PlacementFixture to placement  https://review.openstack.org/56835923:56
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