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openstackgerrit | Tetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: placement: Use INNER JOIN for requied traits https://review.openstack.org/573113 | 00:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Tetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Test alloc_cands with indirectly sharing RPs https://review.openstack.org/519601 | 01:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Tetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Fix nits in nested provider allocation candidates(2) https://review.openstack.org/573475 | 01:20 |
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mriedem_afk | alex_xu: that sounds like a nightmare to manage | 01:23 |
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mriedem | alex_xu: there the discussion in dublin about using glare to store bm config and then nova could pass that along to ironic | 01:24 |
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alex_xu | mriedem_afk: not sure how much people deploy glare... | 01:40 |
mriedem_afk | alex_xu: this could give them a reason | 01:40 |
mriedem_afk | but yes agree with you | 01:40 |
alex_xu | mriedem_afk: just hope a simple design | 01:41 |
alex_xu | mriedem_afk: what is the point about manage nightmare? | 01:42 |
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mriedem_afk | managing bios config traits per node for thousands of nodes | 01:43 |
mriedem_afk | if it's all automated by some other external service, then maybe not a big deal | 01:43 |
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mriedem_afk | but traits have to be mapped to flavors too | 01:44 |
mriedem_afk | if you have something like tacker that is single tenant and just creates flavors on demand, then maybe not a big deal (again) | 01:44 |
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alex_xu | mriedem_afk: so the key problem is we should decouple the configuration and the flavor? | 01:48 |
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mriedem_afk | yeah i think so | 01:54 |
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mriedem | the idea in dublin was to post your config in glare, get an id handle, and then pass that artifact_id with nova server create and nova would get the artifact from glare and pass it on to the virt driver | 01:54 |
alex_xu | mriedem: yea, i see, why we say no for the instance metadata? | 01:56 |
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mriedem | you'd need to read https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408151/ | 01:58 |
mriedem | also, unrelated, but it looks like i'm able to filter servers with --ip6 even when using compute api version 2.1 | 01:58 |
mriedem | but --ip6 filter support was added in 2.5 | 01:58 |
alex_xu | mriedem: ah, thanks, I'm looking for this spec in the ironic, then I didn't found it... | 01:58 |
mriedem | oh i know why | 01:59 |
mriedem | i'm running as admin | 01:59 |
alex_xu | mriedem: yea, in memory, we expose filter to the non-admin with microversion | 02:00 |
mriedem | ah yes | 02:01 |
mriedem | ip6 is ignored for non-admin before 2.5 | 02:01 |
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pvc | hi | 02:03 |
pvc | can anyone help me with gpu passthorught | 02:03 |
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mriedem | alex_xu: re: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/compute-api-microversion-gap-in-osc | 02:04 |
mriedem | pvc: naichuans might be able to | 02:04 |
pvc | I've successfully passthrough the video card of my compute node to my instance | 02:05 |
naichuans | :) | 02:05 |
pvc | but when im installing nvidia driver it seems that my compute node is rebooting or cant access and cant ping | 02:05 |
alex_xu | mriedem: thanks god we needn't add support for every microversion in osc | 02:06 |
pvc | Then im rebooting my compute node so i can ping it again but when i reboot my VM i cannot access again my compute node | 02:06 |
pvc | any idea naichuans? | 02:06 |
naichuans | pvc: Which hypervisor arew you using? | 02:06 |
pvc | im using Centos Queens | 02:06 |
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pvc | i think i misconfigured on compute node? | 02:07 |
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pvc | but i can see the videocard on my instance | 02:07 |
pvc | but fail when running nvidia-smi | 02:07 |
pvc | NVIDIA-SMI has failed because it couldn't communicate with the NVIDIA driver. Make sure that the latest NVIDIA driver is installed and running. ubuntu 16.04 | 02:08 |
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naichuans | strange, install driver looks no effect on compute node. Do you change anything in nova.conf | 02:09 |
pvc | yes wait | 02:10 |
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pvc | naichuans http://paste.openstack.org/show/722937/ | 02:12 |
naichuans | pvc: will check it | 02:12 |
pvc | you want to see grub.cgf too on my compute? | 02:12 |
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naichuans | yes, plase | 02:12 |
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pvc | naichuans http://paste.openstack.org/show/722938/ | 02:15 |
pvc | im planning to test tensorflow | 02:16 |
naichuans | got it~ | 02:16 |
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pvc | this is the flavor and image i used | 02:17 |
pvc | naichuans http://paste.openstack.org/show/722939/ | 02:17 |
pvc | do i need to add something? | 02:19 |
openstackgerrit | Shuo Liu proposed openstack/nova-specs master: fix spelling mistake https://review.openstack.org/573479 | 02:20 |
naichuans | pvc: haven't find anything wrong yet. I will check if I could found something. By the way, I saw you are using KVM, maybe bauzas: could help because he is an expert on vgpu in KVM. | 02:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (2) https://review.openstack.org/573481 | 02:22 |
pvc | hi sir bauzas | 02:23 |
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pvc | do you have docs on how to install driver for ubuntu naichuans | 02:25 |
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naichuans | pvc: No, but for VM side, I think it is no different with physical machines, you can get them from google | 02:26 |
pvc | its weird that when i spawn up an instance i cant reach my compute node | 02:27 |
pvc | do i need to use UEFI? | 02:27 |
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naichuans | I have no idea yet. But that's would not effect compute node. | 02:29 |
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pvc | is this right naichuans http://paste.openstack.org/show/722940/ | 02:35 |
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pvc | is my step okay now queens release? | 02:36 |
pvc | i mean the way i configure my compute | 02:36 |
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naichuans | pvc: looks OK for me, will confirm it with hypervisor guys | 02:40 |
pvc | thank you so much naichuans | 02:41 |
pvc | i need to enable it :( for tensorflow migration | 02:42 |
naichuans | pvc: Np~ | 02:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Shuo Liu proposed openstack/nova-specs master: fix spelling mistake in rst file https://review.openstack.org/573487 | 02:49 |
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naichuans | pvc: I wonder you are using the wrong pci vendor/prodcut id. Did you find the id in /sys/bus/pci? | 03:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Steve Kowalik proposed openstack/nova master: Switch to oslo_messaging.ConfFixture.transport_url https://review.openstack.org/573046 | 03:26 |
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pvc | naichuans where on sys/bus/pci | 03:36 |
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pvc | naichuans http://paste.openstack.org/show/722945/ | 03:37 |
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naichuans | pvc: yes, you could find some information like `00:02.0 Display controller [0380]: Intel Corporation Iris Pro Graphics P6300 ` using lspci, then find ids in `/sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:00:02.0`, do `cat device`/`cat vendor` | 03:40 |
naichuans | mostly vendor should be `0x8086`, your configuration looks different. | 03:41 |
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pvc | wait naichuans | 03:57 |
pvc | here naichuans http://paste.openstack.org/show/722946/ | 03:58 |
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pvc | http://paste.openstack.org/show/722947/ | 03:59 |
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naichuans | pvc: yes, it is different from your configure in nova.conf http://paste.openstack.org/show/722937/ | 05:09 |
pvc | may i know what should i input there? naichuans? can you do a paste again? | 05:10 |
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pvc | naichuans thank you | 05:14 |
naichuans | pvc: could you try http://paste.openstack.org/show/722948/? | 05:14 |
naichuans | pvc: Not sure it can fix your issue or not, just have a try :) | 05:14 |
pvc | okay thank you so much :) | 05:15 |
naichuans | Np | 05:15 |
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pvc | on the /etc/modprobe.d should i edit something or my config is okay now? i use vfio-pci | 05:22 |
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pvc | naichuans http://paste.openstack.org/show/722949/ | 05:22 |
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naichuans | pvc: I'm not clear about that configure, sorry | 05:24 |
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pvc | i need to hide nouveau right? | 05:30 |
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naichuans | I didn't try, maybe native driver is better | 05:39 |
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pvc | naichuans how can i enable UEFI support? | 06:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Tetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Return all resources in provider_summaries https://review.openstack.org/558045 | 06:25 |
openstackgerrit | Tetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Return all providers - multiple providers https://review.openstack.org/559480 | 06:25 |
openstackgerrit | Tetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Return all providers - single provider https://review.openstack.org/573545 | 06:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Tetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Fix nits in nested provider allocation candidates(2) https://review.openstack.org/573475 | 06:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Naichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: xenapi(N-R-P): Add API to support vgpu resource provider create https://review.openstack.org/520313 | 06:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Create specs directory for Stein https://review.openstack.org/573602 | 07:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Tetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Add microversion for nested allocation candidate https://review.openstack.org/565487 | 07:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Tetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Fix nits in placement-return-all-resources series https://review.openstack.org/573604 | 07:34 |
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PapaOurs | good Friday novaers | 07:38 |
openstackgerrit | Tetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Optimize member_of check for nested providers https://review.openstack.org/573203 | 07:38 |
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giblet | Friday! | 08:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: API: add support to abort queued live migration in microversion 2.63 https://review.openstack.org/573136 | 08:31 |
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pvc | hi anyone know how can i cluster a GTX 1080 TI GPU? | 08:34 |
pvc | naichuans i switch to other GPU | 08:35 |
pvc | it's working now on GTX 1080 TI i7 Core | 08:35 |
pvc | but not on GTX 630 | 08:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Don't report DISK_GB if sharing https://review.openstack.org/560459 | 08:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Yikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Add policy to InstanceGroup object and api models. https://review.openstack.org/563375 | 08:57 |
openstackgerrit | Yikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Add InstanceGroupPolicy object https://review.openstack.org/573628 | 08:57 |
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pvc | naichuans gpu:2 what is that means? | 09:18 |
pvc | on the property in the flavor | 09:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Shuo Liu proposed openstack/nova master: fix keytone to keystone in releasenotes.po https://review.openstack.org/573640 | 09:30 |
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openstackgerrit | jiang wei proposed openstack/nova master: Add action initiator attribute to the instance info https://review.openstack.org/536243 | 09:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: API: add support to abort queued live migration in microversion 2.63 https://review.openstack.org/573136 | 10:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Bhagyashri Shewale proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Don't report DISK_GB if sharing https://review.openstack.org/560459 | 10:27 |
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pvc | hi | 10:31 |
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pvc | naichuans are you busy? | 10:31 |
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pvc | anyone not busy? | 10:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Test boot with more ports with bandwidth request https://review.openstack.org/573317 | 11:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add request_spec.RequestGroup versioned object https://review.openstack.org/568840 | 12:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-novaclient master: Remove PyPI downloads https://review.openstack.org/573278 | 12:24 |
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finucannot | efried: https://github.com/tox-dev/tox/issues/425#issuecomment-285941532 | 12:54 |
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fried_rice | finucannot: looking... | 13:21 |
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finucannot | fried_rice: tl;dr: tox devs recognize it as an open bug | 13:21 |
finucannot | but that still doesn't help us right now, unfortunately :( | 13:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Start populating NUMACell.network_info field https://review.openstack.org/564441 | 13:30 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: objects: Add InstanceNUMANetworkInfo object https://review.openstack.org/564442 | 13:30 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: network: Unchain _get_phynet_info from _get_port_vnic_info https://review.openstack.org/564443 | 13:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: network: Add 'create_resource_requests' to network API https://review.openstack.org/564444 | 13:30 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: network: Add '_get_network_tunnel_status' https://review.openstack.org/564445 | 13:30 |
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fried_rice | finucannot: Thanks for that. | 13:30 |
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fried_rice | finucannot: So what seems reasonable to me is: | 13:32 |
fried_rice | For tox.inis that have explicit sections for the auto envs, set basepython=python3 in [testenv] and set basepython=<exact_x.y_version> in the explicit sections. | 13:32 |
fried_rice | For tox.inis that don't have sections for the auto envs, do the thing we've been doing, but add a TODO in the [testenv] section saying: | 13:32 |
fried_rice | # TODO: put basepython=python3 here and remove from individual envs once https://github.com/tox-dev/tox/issues/425#issuecomment-285941532 is fixed. | 13:32 |
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finucannot | I noted it on some random review, but I'd be happy just to do the latter for everything. It hardly seems worth the effort to be have to think about this stuff | 13:34 |
finucannot | *but* if it annoys you, the above makes sense :) | 13:35 |
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* finucannot wonders if this is fried_rice's equivalent of ``literal`` | 13:35 | |
fried_rice | finucannot: Unnecessary repetition is just a serious bugbear for me | 13:36 |
giblet | is it just me or the gate suffers ? http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/zuul-status | 13:37 |
finucannot | giblet: All the -2s? Yeah, I've been seeing that too | 13:37 |
fried_rice | finucannot: Am I -1 on any of them at the moment? Cause the other option is for me to just back away and let others approve these. Because as you say, it's not the end of the world. | 13:37 |
finucannot | fried_rice: Just the nova one, iirc? | 13:38 |
giblet | finucannot: looking at the test nodes graph on that dashboard shows that everything stuck | 13:38 |
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fried_rice | finucannot: The nova one has explicit sections for the auto envs. So we could do that first thing I mentioned. (With comments saying "this can be removed once issue XXX is fixed". | 13:39 |
fried_rice | ) | 13:39 |
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finucannot | giblet: Looks like fungi and co have noticed it already, if #openstack-infra is to be believed | 13:39 |
giblet | finucannot: ohh, thanks | 13:39 |
finucannot | fried_rice: Yup, agreed. I think I said as much in the review | 13:39 |
finucannot | Just a matter of who's going to do it | 13:40 |
giblet | finucannot: I only checked the infra status wiki | 13:40 |
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fried_rice | finucannot: okay, I just got here (long story), haven't caught up on my gerrit overnight yet. I'd be happy to make that change. | 13:40 |
fungi | apparently an ubuntu security update for unbound (the local caching resolver we run on all our servers) failed to successfully restart on many of our zuul executors and so they spontaneously ceased being able to resolve any dns names | 13:40 |
fried_rice | Is that bad? | 13:40 |
fungi | the only real downside to unattended security upgrades | 13:41 |
fried_rice | Hey, it's secure at least. | 13:41 |
fungi | securely broken :/ | 13:41 |
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jroll | every service is secure when it doesn't run :P | 13:41 |
fungi | anyway, fixed now and yes, thanks for the reminder that we didn't log that giblet | 13:41 |
giblet | fungi: thanks for working on the issue :) | 13:42 |
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: A misapplied distro security package update caused many jobs to fail with a MERGER_FAILURE error between ~06:30-12:30 UTC; these can be safely rechecked now that the problem has been addressed | 13:47 | |
fungi | giblet: sure, it was mostly frickler and ianw who figured it out and fixed it | 13:48 |
fungi | but you're welcome nonetheless | 13:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-novaclient master: fix tox python3 overrides https://review.openstack.org/573347 | 13:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: fix tox python3 overrides https://review.openstack.org/572974 | 13:58 |
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fried_rice | finucannot: ^ | 13:58 |
finucannot | fried_rice: done. Cheers :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;0 | 14:00 |
finucannot | lovely | 14:00 |
mdbooth | finucannot: Was that an attempt at buffer overflow? | 14:00 |
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finucannot | mdbooth: Notifications cause my screen to lock up for an indeterminate period. No idea what's wrong :( | 14:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: placement: always create consumer records https://review.openstack.org/567678 | 14:12 |
openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: add consumers generation field https://review.openstack.org/557958 | 14:12 |
openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: placement: Allocation.consumer field https://review.openstack.org/565405 | 14:12 |
openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: rework allocation handler _allocations_dict() https://review.openstack.org/565407 | 14:12 |
openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: Add a microversion for consumer generation support https://review.openstack.org/565604 | 14:12 |
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fried_rice | kashyap: libvirt isn't the only hypervisor, dude. | 14:14 |
* kashyap on a call; will read scroll in a bit | 14:14 | |
kashyap | But there are other "hypervisor dudes" here too | 14:14 |
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fried_rice | kashyap: Nothing to scroll, referring to the >26 volumes discussion on the ML. | 14:16 |
fried_rice | kashyap: Your response reads like "Well, because this libvirt-specific thing handles 256, we should make the limit 256." | 14:16 |
kashyap | fried_rice: Err, sorry. I misread your comment :-) | 14:16 |
kashyap | Hmm, true, I didn't mean it to imply that way. | 14:17 |
fried_rice | kashyap: Sorry, it's a sore point for me. | 14:17 |
kashyap | No, no. It's completel fine. | 14:17 |
kashyap | I'm interested in data from other hypervisors too. Can those just chime in? | 14:17 |
fried_rice | kashyap: I appreciate how thoroughly you thought through and researched. | 14:17 |
kashyap | I just meant to share whatever data I have from a libvirt PoV. Didn't mean to say this is all "cut and dried". | 14:17 |
fried_rice | kashyap: Yeah, I pestered the relevant folks from my team yesterday to respond to that. We have scenarios where IBMi customers on POWER stripe data across literally hundreds of volumes. | 14:18 |
fried_rice | I'll fup and bug them again. | 14:18 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: network: Unchain _get_phynet_info from _get_port_vnic_info https://review.openstack.org/564443 | 14:18 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: network: Add 'create_resource_requests' to network API https://review.openstack.org/564444 | 14:18 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: network: Retrieve tunneled status in '_get_network_info' https://review.openstack.org/564445 | 14:18 |
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kashyap | fried_rice: I see, interesting. I don't have access to POWER machine, so certainly I don't know its limitations | 14:19 |
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kashyap | (Or capabilities) | 14:20 |
kashyap | fried_rice: Also how is I/O performance across those many 100s of volumes? | 14:20 |
fried_rice | kashyap: Oh, nobody does, that's totally understandable :) | 14:20 |
fried_rice | kashyap: As I understand it, they did that striping specifically to achieve better performance. So it must be... good. | 14:20 |
fried_rice | kashyap: But I'm not the expert there. | 14:21 |
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kashyap | (I suggested 256 as a potential number after looking through Kernel threads this morning, and all that testing done by the libguestfs folks.) | 14:21 |
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kashyap | fried_rice: I see. I'll check with some RHT folks have access to POWER machines | 14:21 |
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fried_rice | kashyap: my SME says he wants the max to be 4k :) | 14:23 |
kashyap | fried_rice: Ask them to respond with a bit more detail, please :-) | 14:24 |
mriedem | dansmith: this is for you https://review.openstack.org/#/c/490015/ | 14:24 |
fried_rice | kashyap: Yeah, I'm doing that. For some reason my guy didn't see the thread originally. | 14:24 |
dansmith | mriedem: oh boy! | 14:24 |
fried_rice | kashyap: I may wind up having to proxy his response. But one way or another we'll get it out there :) | 14:24 |
mriedem | osc didn't have host-evacuate-live so someone wants to add it | 14:24 |
dansmith | we really really should avoid more name confusion | 14:25 |
kashyap | fried_rice: Sure, noting on his behalf is fine. Just understanding the requirements of different hypervisors. If it's not too unpalatable ... we can even conditionalize based on hypervisor? | 14:25 |
fried_rice | host-evacuate-live. To me, that means "clear out this host by live-migrating all the instances off of it". So that must not be what it does. | 14:26 |
fried_rice | kashyap: That sounds like the right approach to me, and is what dansmith expressed as his first preference as well. | 14:26 |
kashyap | fried_rice: Oh, I didn't see his response yet. | 14:26 |
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melwitt | mriedem, dansmith: I dunno if y'all saw but I added a -W to this https://review.openstack.org/569923 last night to signal that it's legit failing at least the xenserver, hyperv, and vmware third party CIs. so it seems there's some coordination we need to do there | 14:30 |
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melwitt | oh, the tempest change that disables the virtual interfaces tests hasn't merged yet, that would explain it https://review.openstack.org/571556 | 14:32 |
melwitt | I didn't notice that last night | 14:32 |
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mriedem | dansmith: yup hence my -1 on the change | 14:36 |
dansmith | mriedem: yup | 14:36 |
mriedem | fried_rice: that's exactly what it does | 14:36 |
fried_rice | holy shit! | 14:36 |
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mriedem | melwitt: the 3rd party CIs must not be honoring depends-on | 14:37 |
fried_rice | I know ^ is true for powervm ci. | 14:37 |
melwitt | mriedem: yeah, I didn't realize there was possibility of it working differently and not honoring | 14:38 |
fried_rice | uh, sorry, we get it for zuul but not for tox? Or something. | 14:38 |
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pvc | hi | 14:54 |
pvc | anyone | 14:54 |
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pvc | can i share the GPU on my compute node with 3 VMs? | 14:54 |
artom | pvc, only as of queens, with specific nvidia gpus | 14:58 |
pvc | im using quens | 14:58 |
pvc | my compute node uses GTX 1080 TI | 14:58 |
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finucannot | pvc: Then no, to the best of my knowledge | 14:59 |
finucannot | You're going to need an enterprise card with vGPU support to multiplex it | 15:00 |
finucannot | Otherwise the best you can do is PCI passthrough which only allows it to be attached to one instance | 15:00 |
finucannot | pvc: https://www.openstack.org/videos/vancouver-2018/call-it-real-virtual-gpus-in-nova | 15:01 |
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pvc | so if ever i launch instance with flavor property of gtx:2, i cannot use it again to launch another VM right? | 15:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add requested_resources field to RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/567267 | 15:03 |
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kashyap | fried_rice: Hey, a quick question -- surely your SME has tested those 4K disks with just bare KVM? I bet they haven't tested with OpenStack... | 15:03 |
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kashyap | fried_rice: Because, I doubt OpenStack as it stands will handle those many in a graceful manner, even with POWER... | 15:04 |
pvc | finucannot in order to use GPU clustering i need a vGPU supoprt right | 15:04 |
finucannot | pvc: Assuming gtx is a PCI alias, that is correct | 15:04 |
pvc | i see. thats why i can launch just one instance | 15:04 |
fried_rice | kashyap: Not KVM. POWER is a different hypervisor. The 4k disks thing was using IBMi guests, I believe. | 15:04 |
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kashyap | fried_rice: Err, thinko. | 15:05 |
fried_rice | kashyap: But you're right, I doubt it was openstack - it was probably just HMC. | 15:05 |
pvc | is nvidia tesla good finucannot? | 15:05 |
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melwitt | pvc: this is the support matrix for nvidia vgpu https://docs.nvidia.com/grid/latest/product-support-matrix/index.html | 15:06 |
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finucannot | pvc: NVIDIA would like to say so :) I've no personal experience with that or any other enterprise-grade GPU | 15:06 |
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kashyap | fried_rice: Nod. What is HMC? (My brain throws AcronymNotFound exception...) | 15:07 |
pvc | melwitt thank you so GTX does not support vGPU sad, its okay finucannot thank you btw :) | 15:07 |
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kashyap | fried_rice: Ha, it must be: Hardware Management Console | 15:07 |
fried_rice | kashyap: Hardware Management Console, I think. It's the classic POWER-specific hypervisor manager | 15:07 |
fried_rice | yes | 15:07 |
kashyap | Okido; thanks | 15:07 |
fried_rice | kashyap: It's what all the old legacy POWER customers use to manage their virtualization. It's an appliance server (can be a VM or a standalone box or whatever) running a specialized MCP with the management software on it. It talks to the POWER hypervisor firmware thingy (PHYP) as well as the Virtual I/O Servers to do virtualization stuff on the system. | 15:09 |
fried_rice | kashyap: Couple years ago we forked off a thing called NovaLink, which is a similar management stack, but it lives on a plain ol' Linux VM on the POWER box itself. Idea being more scalability. | 15:10 |
kashyap | fried_rice: Ah, I see. And te modern customers use OpenStack? | 15:10 |
fried_rice | kashyap: And it is on the NovaLink partition that we run the nova-compute service. | 15:10 |
fried_rice | ...so that modern customers can use openstack, yes. | 15:10 |
kashyap | Noted; thans for the context. | 15:11 |
fried_rice | kashyap: Note the major difference from the kvm model: the NovaLink partition manages the virtualization, but the VMs don't run "in" the NovaLink partition - they run on the system itself. | 15:11 |
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fried_rice | kashyap: it's a weird concept for kvm folks. Think of it this way: the NovaLink partition is a "peer" of the guest VMs. They're all "logical partitions" (LPARs) on the POWER system. | 15:13 |
openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add bandwidth related standard resource classes https://review.openstack.org/570847 | 15:13 |
openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Transfer port.resource_request to the scheduler https://review.openstack.org/567268 | 15:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Send resource allocations in the port binding https://review.openstack.org/569459 | 15:13 |
openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Test boot with more ports with bandwidth request https://review.openstack.org/573317 | 15:13 |
kashyap | fried_rice: Yeah, was going to look up a bit about it to see how it compares. Thanks for the info | 15:13 |
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fried_rice | kashyap: Sure thing. Thanks for listening :) | 15:14 |
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kashyap | Yeah, but just to note -- anytime I suggest something that is KVM/libvirt-specific, and not seem consider other hypervisors, it's largely due to my own ignorance... | 15:15 |
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mgagne | when migrating flavor in newton, this moves flavor to api database. Will CellsV1 read from that database from now on? | 15:17 |
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dansmith | mgagne: you mean cellsv2? | 15:19 |
mgagne | cellsv1 | 15:19 |
mgagne | because you can still run cellsv1 in newton right? | 15:19 |
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dansmith | mgagne: the api will read it from the api database yeah, but nothing else changes | 15:20 |
dansmith | mgagne: so you likely still need all the flavor replication bits or whatever you're doing I think | 15:20 |
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mgagne | so will I need to create them in both api database and api/compute cells database? | 15:20 |
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mgagne | right | 15:20 |
mgagne | but | 15:20 |
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mgagne | db sync complains if you don't migrate them all to api db | 15:20 |
mgagne | in ocata I think | 15:21 |
dansmith | yeah, I'm trying to roll back my brain to think about this | 15:21 |
dansmith | mriedem: do you remember what belmiro said he was doing? | 15:21 |
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dansmith | they have an api db in each cellsv1 cell, IIRC, and they migrated the flavors to those api databases? | 15:22 |
mgagne | I'm just trying to figure out something: I run online migration with newton. Flavors get moved to api database. But I also need to run online migration in compute cells right? (still cellsv1) Otherwise ocata complains. So I run that migration but it fails because flavors found in compute cells already exist in api database and migration fails silently with exit code 0. (and don't mark them as deleted in compute cell database) | 15:22 |
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mriedem | context? | 15:23 |
mriedem | i've been in osc land all day | 15:23 |
mgagne | dansmith: they had an api db per cell due to per cell placement | 15:23 |
dansmith | mgagne: are you sharing the api database amongst all the cellsv1 cells? | 15:23 |
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dansmith | ah, right, | 15:23 |
mgagne | dansmith: yes | 15:23 |
dansmith | so that's the difference between you and belmiro's approach | 15:23 |
mgagne | which I assumed was the recommended way unless you wanted per cell placement service | 15:23 |
mgagne | yes | 15:23 |
dansmith | mgagne: so you'll probably have to hack that check out | 15:23 |
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dansmith | which I think actually sam mentioned in YVR in passing | 15:24 |
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mgagne | ok, I don't mind hacking it. I just want to make sure that cellsv1 will read from api db now. | 15:24 |
mgagne | ok, I will rewatch the video | 15:24 |
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dansmith | mgagne: it will read from the api db for things like flavor-list and nova boot... I'm not positive that there won't be other cellsv1-specific paths that aren't updated though | 15:25 |
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mgagne | hehe, I understand the risk. I will rewatch the video and do some tests then. | 15:26 |
mriedem | i believe in our nova-cells v1 job the child cell doesn't have access to the api db | 15:27 |
mriedem | since we have single placement we didn't need it | 15:27 |
mgagne | right, belmiro mentioned that case in his talk | 15:27 |
dansmith | mriedem: okay I'm surprised it doesn't need it somewhere, but cool if so | 15:27 |
mgagne | I think it needs it? | 15:28 |
mriedem | or i guess they do http://logs.openstack.org/68/569268/4/gate/nova-cells-v1/545ba44/logs/etc/nova/nova-cells.conf.txt.gz | 15:28 |
mgagne | because I have it configured already. I think something complained about it. | 15:28 |
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mgagne | so my bad, just a matter of paying more attention to belmiro's talk =) | 15:28 |
mriedem | 345 must be the migration that fails? | 15:29 |
mriedem | yeah.... | 15:29 |
mgagne | yes | 15:30 |
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mriedem | 345 should probably have a CONF.cells.enable condition | 15:30 |
mgagne | he had a slide about those migrations | 15:30 |
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mgagne | mriedem: was thinking the same ++ | 15:30 |
mriedem | but if we did that, you might not migrate your flavors to the api db and then you have other problems, i think? | 15:31 |
mriedem | we could log a warning, but likely no one would notice if db sync didn't fail | 15:31 |
mgagne | yea, that's what I'm trying to figure out | 15:31 |
mriedem | nova-status upgrade check would be good here | 15:31 |
dansmith | mriedem: yeah and looking at conf in migrations got people into trouble before, so... | 15:31 |
mriedem | if cells v1 and no flavors in api db, fail (nova-status check) | 15:31 |
mriedem | at the very least, we need something in the 'upgrade from cells v1' docs | 15:32 |
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mriedem | https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/cells.html#upgrade-with-cells-v1 | 15:32 |
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mgagne | mriedem: I think the special case that isn't documented yet is: if you wish to upgrade but wish to keep cellsv1 for reasons. what to do. | 15:33 |
mgagne | but I think it would create more confusion if it was in the "main" documentation. | 15:34 |
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mriedem | we havea cells faqs section... | 15:39 |
mriedem | "DB migration 345 fails saying I haven't migrated all flavors to the API DB but I'm using cells v1 still..." | 15:39 |
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mriedem | https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/cells.html#faqs | 15:40 |
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mriedem | mgagne: i guess let us know what you think would be most helpful for documenting this once you get past it - we could also put a comment in the db migration itself in case people are hitting it and then go there to see what's going on | 15:50 |
mgagne | nice :D | 15:52 |
mgagne | I managed to create a lightweight setup to test the migration so I can iterate faster. shouldn't be long before I get some interesting results | 15:53 |
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melwitt | mriedem: are you okay with a minor release bump on this based on the last comment? sounds like it might be more intuitive to people https://review.openstack.org/573454 | 15:54 |
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mriedem | s/people/doug/ | 15:57 |
mriedem | i'm a big meh | 15:57 |
mriedem | if we do a minor release for every os-traits updates, we'll just have a ton of minor updates | 15:57 |
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mriedem | s/updates/release/ on that first one | 15:57 |
melwitt | yeah | 15:57 |
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melwitt | initially I had done a minor version bump locally before I saw that a past release did a patch bump. but I think the release prior to that one was a minor bump. it's been inconsistent | 16:00 |
openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Fix unbound local when saving an unchanged RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/573768 | 16:02 |
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cfriesen | arguably a new trait is a new "feature", which would make it a minor update if you follow semver. but so much of openstack doesn't anyways... | 16:04 |
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melwitt | I shall change it to a minor bump | 16:06 |
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cfriesen | mriedem: thanks for starting that OSC etherpad. you mentioned that aborting an in-progress migration doesn't really fit on the server resource. From a user perspective it seems to me that "openstack server migration list" and "openstack server migration abort" would be sensible commands | 16:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Optional separate database for placement API https://review.openstack.org/362766 | 16:46 |
openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Isolate placement database config https://review.openstack.org/541435 | 16:46 |
openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Ensure that os-traits sync is attempted only at start of process https://review.openstack.org/553857 | 16:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Add PLACEMENT_DB_ENABLED=True to the nova-next job https://review.openstack.org/564067 | 17:02 |
jmlowe | cdent: You've got some migration path for getting existing placement db's out of nova_api db? | 17:02 |
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cdent | jmlowe: we discussed that at summit (see https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-placement-extraction ) and the general consensus in the room was allowing people to do it manually according to whatever worked for them (there are a variety of options on the etherpad) | 17:04 |
jmlowe | ok, I was probably harassing Jeremy at the time and missed it during that session | 17:05 |
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jmlowe | I'm probably good with stop, dump, restore to new db, start, make schemas diverge | 17:07 |
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cdent | jmlowe: if you feel inclined to add that "I'm good with" to the etherpad, that would be a good datapoint | 17:08 |
jmlowe | done | 17:09 |
cdent | thanks | 17:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Jan Gutter proposed openstack/os-vif master: [WIP] Add support for generic offload representors https://review.openstack.org/572081 | 17:41 |
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mgagne | mriedem: with newton, if flavors are fully converted to object, wouldn't it mean that all code path use the API database to read the information since it goes through object? If running CellsV1, how could it still read from local cell database? Isn't the code reading from local gone in newton? But I found lot of notes by alaski telling models in non-api database is deprecated since they got moved to API database. So I'm a bit confused. | 18:21 |
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mriedem | i believe the flavor object looks for the flavor in the api db and if not there, falls back to the cell db | 18:22 |
mgagne | I'm trying to see if I just need to skip the migration and still continue creating flavor in compute cell OR if I can delete them since they got all moved to API database and everything should be reading from it. | 18:22 |
mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/ocata/nova/objects/flavor.py#L403 | 18:23 |
mriedem | that checks the api first then falls back to the cell db | 18:23 |
mgagne | yes, that place. | 18:23 |
mriedem | in ocata at least | 18:23 |
mriedem | i know we dropped that compat code.... | 18:23 |
mriedem | gone in queens https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/queens/nova/objects/flavor.py#L377 | 18:24 |
mgagne | but lets say I query an instance and join to flavor. Would the join use the flavor object or would db.api load the data first and use Flavor object later? | 18:24 |
mriedem | the instance.flavor is not in the flavors table, | 18:25 |
mgagne | because it wouldn't make much sense to join instance to flavor cross databases right? I'm not familiar with that part tbh. | 18:25 |
mriedem | it's in the instance_extras table | 18:25 |
dansmith | mgagne: the instance has the flavor stashed with it in the cell db now | 18:25 |
dansmith | yeah that | 18:25 |
mriedem | the instance.flavor is stored separately keyed per the the instance | 18:25 |
mgagne | oh, you get a copy of the flavor right | 18:25 |
mriedem | in case the flavor is deleted | 18:25 |
dansmith | so you only need it in the api db for build and list | 18:25 |
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mgagne | so this would mean I could delete content of instance_types in compute cell db just like the original migration tried to do. | 18:27 |
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mriedem | yeah, the api isn't going to read flavors out of the cell dbs | 18:27 |
mgagne | awesome news then | 18:27 |
dansmith | probably should to make sure nothing falls back to that when it shouldn't, since it'll go away | 18:27 |
mgagne | yes, that's my main concern | 18:28 |
mgagne | so if I skip flavor migration in cell, does it mean entries are now orphan and can be deleted (and not migrated). I guess that's my question. | 18:28 |
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mgagne | I suppose I can test a bit. | 18:28 |
mriedem | i believe so | 18:28 |
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mriedem | when migrating flavors from child cells to the api db, it handles duplicates (per the flavorid) so should be fine https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/ocata/nova/objects/flavor.py#L755 | 18:30 |
dansmith | mgagne: if they're all the same then yeah | 18:30 |
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dansmith | mgagne: which I think they have to be right? | 18:30 |
mgagne | yes, they are the same. | 18:30 |
mriedem | as in you could have m1.tiny in 4 cells but with different primary key ids, but the online data migration wouldn't carry over the primary key id, just create a new flavor in the api db | 18:30 |
mriedem | right, for each flavor in cell db, create in api db, ignore duplicates | 18:30 |
mgagne | mriedem: afaik, you can't have different primary key id =) | 18:30 |
dansmith | yeah, | 18:31 |
mriedem | well, i mean you could have m1.tiny in different cells with the same id=1 | 18:31 |
dansmith | because it's referenced directly by the instance by id | 18:31 |
mriedem | but you can only have one m1.tiny in the api db | 18:31 |
dansmith | mriedem: I don't hink so | 18:31 |
mgagne | lot of gotcha in cellsv1 that assumes primary key is the same everywhere | 18:31 |
mriedem | oh, well that i didn't know | 18:31 |
dansmith | mriedem: in old school nova, instance.instance_type_id refers to flavor.id | 18:31 |
mriedem | all the more reason to get off cells v1 :) | 18:31 |
dansmith | so they have to be identical AFAIK | 18:31 |
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mgagne | I got bitten in the past... | 18:31 |
dansmith | are we comparing scars now? | 18:31 |
mgagne | hehehe | 18:32 |
dansmith | :) | 18:32 |
mriedem | so i guess the 354 data migration blocker isn't so bad for you | 18:32 |
mriedem | you just needed to run the online data migratoin on each cell db | 18:32 |
mgagne | I'm sure yours are more numerous than mines | 18:32 |
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mgagne | alright, will go back to my ffu dungeon then :D | 18:33 |
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mriedem | say hi to lyaaaaaaaarwood for me | 18:34 |
mgagne | is it a friend or some beast I should find and fight in the dungeon? :D | 18:35 |
mgagne | oh, a ffu expert :D | 18:36 |
openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Ensure resource class cache when listing usages https://review.openstack.org/573811 | 18:36 |
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mriedem | lyaaaaaaaarwood is a level 12 FFU paladin with a ring of +3 "soft speaking" | 18:38 |
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mriedem | cfriesen: https://review.openstack.org/573813 | 18:46 |
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mriedem | cfriesen: openstack server migration list / abort etc is probably good yeah | 18:49 |
mriedem | since we have openstack server migrate | 18:49 |
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mriedem | and don't want to get confused with openstack volume migrate | 18:49 |
mriedem | i leave stuff like that up to the osc ux wizards | 18:49 |
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jroll | is it expected that we should be able to run 'show' or 'delete' via openstackclient on instances in cell0? | 20:12 |
jroll | using ocata | 20:12 |
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jroll | even list bombs out | 20:12 |
* jroll pasting stack trace | 20:12 | |
jroll | http://paste.openstack.org/show/6YrSmjMSo0lIxyFjbPIz/ | 20:13 |
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jroll | looks like it's hitting the wrong database when trying to refresh the instance in _load_flavor() | 20:13 |
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jroll | looks like this bug which expired: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1749167 | 20:14 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1749167 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova show can not get an instance information, and this instance can be queried from nova list." [Undecided,Expired] | 20:14 |
jroll | by the way bowser was trying to ask about the actual scheduling problem, sounds like maybe this is expected? | 20:14 |
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melwitt | jroll: I don't think it's expected | 20:17 |
melwitt | we had bugs around instance list/show back then, which we fixed. I'm looking through bugs to see if any were this | 20:18 |
temka | The fact that it's hitting it in flavor... | 20:18 |
* temka is vaguely reminded of something | 20:18 | |
jroll | I didn't immediately see it searching everything for "cell0" | 20:18 |
melwitt | you have the latest ocata or an earlier one? | 20:18 |
jroll | should be latest, lemme verify | 20:18 |
melwitt | yeah, I'm not immediately finding anything either | 20:18 |
melwitt | it's hard to find these things | 20:19 |
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jroll | well wtf, our latest upstream commit is 125dd1f30fdaf50182256c56808a5199856383c7 | 20:19 |
jroll | which was february | 20:20 |
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melwitt | I'm not sure if it matters, just wanted to make sure I understand which code you have | 20:20 |
jroll | it matters that I have a broken assumption :) | 20:20 |
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jroll | similar: https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/e0c1d461af0701adb94e6974f363e12395ed0162 | 20:22 |
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jroll | but I don't think it's the same | 20:22 |
temka | jroll, 2e68b2298e94a15d1282c0fb46804b9efa6c8b3a ? | 20:23 |
temka | Seems old tho | 20:23 |
jroll | yeah, we would have that | 20:23 |
melwitt | it's trying to lazy-load the flavor from the database, first thing it does while doing that is the lookup the instance, and that is not found because it's looking in the wrong database | 20:24 |
jroll | exactly | 20:24 |
melwitt | this sounds so familiar, just not finding a bug that matches yet | 20:24 |
temka | melwitt, yep, same here | 20:24 |
temka | I swear I've seen this | 20:24 |
jroll | melwitt: in the meantime, we can manually delete it from cell0.instances and nova_api.instance_mappings, trigger a quota reset... will all the other tables get cleaned up on delete? | 20:25 |
melwitt | I will say that ocata is particularly fraught with problems because the way we were doing cell targeting back then had some fundamental problems which we changed in pike, but was a huge change that backporting would involve backporting a ton of disjointed things in pike, so we abandoned it | 20:28 |
jroll | mmm | 20:28 |
melwitt | (assuming that things are okay-enough in ocata. if they're not, then we have to find another way to solve it) | 20:28 |
melwitt | jroll: yeah, I think that would do it as a manual cleanup. are you seeing this on/during an upgrade or on already-upgraded-and-been-running clusters? | 20:29 |
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jroll | melwitt: already upgraded | 20:30 |
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jroll | we shut down the API for this upgrade | 20:30 |
melwitt | jroll: okay, so any new instance that fails to schedule gets in this un-listable state | 20:30 |
jroll | trying to verify that now | 20:31 |
jroll | this instance is still in BUILD, rather than ERROR | 20:31 |
jroll | and is the only thing in instance_mappings with cell_id=NULL | 20:31 |
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melwitt | oh, that's interesting. but yet it's in cell0, in BUILD state but not ERROR | 20:31 |
jroll | yep | 20:32 |
jroll | and built > 16 hours ago | 20:32 |
melwitt | cell_id=NULL is a problem. that should be cell0 if it's in cell0 | 20:32 |
melwitt | hmm | 20:32 |
jroll | task_state=scheduling | 20:32 |
jroll | so it's like it got dropped by rabbit or something? idk | 20:32 |
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melwitt | yeah, I dunno. we have also heard from CERN folks of some instance_mappings ending up with cell_id=NULL but I've not understood the conditions under which it happened | 20:33 |
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melwitt | while instances are in the middle of scheduling, they are supposed to be listed/shown using their build_requests in the nova_api database, IIRC | 20:35 |
jroll | hm, can't run server show on other instances in cell0 either | 20:36 |
jroll | so maybe that's unrelated | 20:36 |
jroll | though that 404s instead of 500s | 20:36 |
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jroll | cell_id=1 doesn't break server list either, but doesn't show up in the response | 20:37 |
melwitt | okay, first check the db connection string for cell0 in nova_api.cell_mappings and make sure it's right, then look in nova_api.instance_mappings and check if cell_id is cell0, then check if the instance is in nova_cell0.instances. that's how it's all connected | 20:38 |
jroll | yeah, that's all correct | 20:39 |
melwitt | it will go instance_mappings.cell_id => db connect to cell_mappings.cell_id database_connection string => <cell database>.instances (if the instance has completed scheduling, either via success or error) | 20:39 |
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melwitt | if it did not complete scheduling, it will live in build_requests only and have cell_id=NULL, I believe | 20:40 |
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jroll | nod | 20:40 |
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melwitt | :/ okay, if that's all correct I don't understand how it could _not_ be able to 'nova show' it | 20:40 |
melwitt | does that still fail with the flavor lazy-load thing? | 20:41 |
jroll | digging logs now for the 404 | 20:41 |
melwitt | meaning, the instance that checks out as far as all the things connected properly, fails on the flavor lazy-load? | 20:41 |
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jroll | right, so the one that is properly mapped to cell0 | 20:44 |
jroll | is throwing a 404 | 20:44 |
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jroll | HTTP exception thrown: Instance 75e193c5-6700-4d67-be44-7020fb4129ed could not be found. | 20:45 |
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melwitt | okay | 20:45 |
melwitt | still trying to parse whether that lazy-load read_deleted bug you linked earlier is this or not | 20:46 |
melwitt | the bug seems light on details | 20:46 |
jroll | yeah, ditto | 20:46 |
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melwitt | okay, so this is about deleted instances not being found when trying to lazy-load other instance properties. that seems kinda chicken and egg. (how did you get the deleted instance to lazy-load from in the first place?) | 20:48 |
melwitt | but your instances have not been deleted, so I think it's probably not the same bug | 20:49 |
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melwitt | jroll: what's your service version for the nova-osapi_compute service? | 20:51 |
melwitt | probably in nova_cell0.services | 20:52 |
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jroll | right, not deleted | 20:52 |
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jroll | debug logs gave me jack | 20:54 |
jroll | no records in nova_cell0.services O_o | 20:54 |
melwitt | must be in a different db then, I don't know where to expect it | 20:54 |
melwitt | oh, maybe just nova? | 20:55 |
jroll | 16 in nova yeah | 20:55 |
melwitt | the non-compute service records are all together. okay | 20:55 |
jroll | bah, dogs need to go out, bbiab | 20:55 |
melwitt | k | 20:56 |
melwitt | so you should be in here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/ocata/nova/compute/api.py#L2322-L2347 | 20:56 |
melwitt | oh, wait, it never even gets there. uuugggh | 21:00 |
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melwitt | this is trying to look up the instance long before instance mappings are even begun to be examined | 21:00 |
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jroll | the "bad" one does get that far | 21:03 |
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jroll | but can't tell on the "good" one since there's no traceback or anything on the 404 | 21:04 |
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jroll | I need to take off shortly, can write up something in launchpad for now? | 21:05 |
jroll | almost seems like two separate bugs | 21:05 |
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melwitt | yes, that would be helpful. thanks. I'll comment there on the bug | 21:06 |
jroll | ok, I'll make two reports | 21:06 |
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jroll | oh I'm an idiot, that "good" one is deleted, I'm sorry | 21:09 |
melwitt | oh, heh. that's okay | 21:09 |
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melwitt | the one I'm looking at is the one in your original paste. tracing through to get straight what is happening on that one | 21:10 |
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jroll | ok :) | 21:11 |
jroll | I'm just going to reopen https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1749167, looks to be the same | 21:11 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1749167 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova show can not get an instance information, and this instance can be queried from nova list." [Undecided,Expired] | 21:11 |
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melwitt | is it? this bug says they can see the instance with 'nova list' but can't delete it | 21:12 |
melwitt | your paste shows a failure to 'nova list' at all | 21:13 |
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jroll | oh, good point | 21:16 |
jroll | ok, I'll open anew | 21:16 |
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melwitt | if the 'nova list' involves deleted instances too, then the bug you linked earlier about lazy-load read_deleted="yes" may well fix your problem | 21:19 |
melwitt | I guess that would only make sense if you did 'nova list --deleted' | 21:20 |
jroll | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1775934 | 21:21 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1775934 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Cannot run "openstack server list" with instance stuck in scheduling state" [Undecided,New] | 21:21 |
jroll | yeah, this isn't with deleted | 21:21 |
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melwitt | k, thanks | 21:21 |
jroll | writing that I now understand why bauzus was trying to figure out how it got in that state | 21:21 |
jroll | I guess we probably don't expect it to work with an invalid cell mapping | 21:21 |
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melwitt | well, if there's an invalid cell_mapping, it's supposed to use the data from nova_api.build_requests | 21:22 |
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melwitt | rather, if InstanceMapping.cell_id=NULL it should be using nova_api.build_requests and using that to list and not failing | 21:23 |
jroll | well, that's an empty table :/ | 21:23 |
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melwitt | build_requests is empty? | 21:23 |
jroll | yep | 21:23 |
melwitt | huh. that is weird | 21:24 |
jroll | indeed | 21:24 |
mriedem | pretty sure it doesn't work that way | 21:24 |
mriedem | this is the same thing surya was talking about on wednesday | 21:24 |
mriedem | we look for a build request and if not there, we look for an instance mapping with a cell | 21:24 |
mriedem | if the build request is gone, the instance mapping should have a cell mapping because we delete the build request after updating the instance mapping | 21:25 |
melwitt | this shows if mapped, we look in the cell db, else we look at build requests https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/ocata/nova/compute/api.py#L2322-L2347 | 21:25 |
mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1773945 | 21:25 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1773945 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova client servers.list crashes with bad marker" [Medium,Triaged] - Assigned to Surya Seetharaman (tssurya) | 21:25 |
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mriedem | ok, but could be hitting ^ | 21:26 |
mriedem | where the build request is gone but the instance mapping doesn't have a cell mapping in it | 21:26 |
melwitt | ah, okay | 21:26 |
melwitt | jroll: build requests don't get soft-deleted so could be empty if everything got cleaned up properly | 21:27 |
jroll | oh nice, thanks mriedem | 21:27 |
melwitt | your traceback is different than that one, but could it be the same root cause? | 21:28 |
jroll | probably | 21:28 |
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jroll | I have to bounce but pointed internal folks at that bug and the one I filed | 21:29 |
jroll | I can update monday if they found anything new | 21:29 |
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jroll | thanks for all the help melwitt, mriedem | 21:29 |
melwitt | based on your traceback, it looks like the instance get_all from compute/api succeeded but then you failed when the REST API code tried to access instance.get_flavor(), it wanted to lazy-load it. but that attribute should have been pre-loaded. so I don't get that yet | 21:30 |
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melwitt | jroll: thanks for letting us know about the bug | 21:31 |
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mriedem | that lazy load failure sounds familiar | 21:32 |
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mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/5a363a0d72e7dd8d79d7e950effc1d8a5fdc801b#diff-1b01e8e37be9d889295e5333b7857139 | 21:34 |
mriedem | that's likely not it | 21:34 |
mriedem | probably something else in the api code | 21:34 |
melwitt | so they get here and fail during flavor lazy-load https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/ocata/nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py#L369 but it seems "impossible" that they could have gotten there with cell_id=NULL + build_requests table empty | 21:38 |
melwitt | oh actually that's get_all so different than what I was looking at get earlier | 21:39 |
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melwitt | okay so that does make sense, the get_all in compute/api would find whatever is in the cell dbs regardless of cell_mapping=None. so that would succeed. but should also have flavor preloaded on the instance objects returned, so why is a lazy-load happening | 21:43 |
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melwitt | nothing should have been created from build requests if the build_requests table is empty... | 21:44 |
melwitt | maybe he tried that test earlier when there were build requests still. that would make sense, if some items in the instance list were "shell" instances created from build_requests, then instance.get_flavor() would trigger a lazy-load | 21:47 |
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melwitt | jroll: if you could show nova_cell0.instance_extra for that instance it might help too | 21:56 |
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melwitt | maybe not actually. I was trying to think whether the embedded flavor was even there but it might not be relevant | 21:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Optional separate database for placement API https://review.openstack.org/362766 | 23:30 |
openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Isolate placement database config https://review.openstack.org/541435 | 23:30 |
openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Ensure that os-traits sync is attempted only at start of process https://review.openstack.org/553857 | 23:30 |
openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Add PLACEMENT_DB_ENABLED=True to the nova-next job https://review.openstack.org/564067 | 23:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Extract part of PlacementFixture to placement https://review.openstack.org/568359 | 23:56 |
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