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| openstackgerrit | Kashyap Chamarthy proposed openstack/nova master: conf: libvirt: Make `/dev/urandom` the default for 'rng_dev_path' https://review.openstack.org/577385 | 12:09 |
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| mriedem | lyarwood: please kind sir https://review.openstack.org/#/c/571320/ | 12:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chason Chan proposed openstack/nova master: Fix the duplicated config options of api_database and placement_database https://review.openstack.org/577023 | 12:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Deepak Mourya proposed openstack/nova master: Handle CannotDeleteParentResourceProvider to 409 Conflict https://review.openstack.org/577726 | 12:47 |
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| lyarwood | mriedem: ack, would you mind taking a look at this today if you have time - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1764883+status:open | 12:49 |
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| mriedem | oh boy i think dan was looking at that last week | 12:51 |
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| lyarwood | mriedem: yup, addressed his nits but I think he still had concerns about how useful this actually is, if you agree I'll abandon and move on. | 12:53 |
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| efried | ō/ | 12:56 |
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| mriedem | lyarwood: you're referring to this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/562284/3/nova/compute/manager.py@1133 | 12:58 |
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| lyarwood | mriedem: yeah, L1133 | 12:59 |
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| mriedem | "For one thing, we'll fail to find the migration in the evacuation code in conductor" - why? | 13:01 |
| mriedem | i must be missing something | 13:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Surya Seetharaman proposed openstack/nova master: Make nova list and migration-list ignore down cells https://review.openstack.org/575734 | 13:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Deepak Mourya proposed openstack/nova master: Handle CannotDeleteParentResourceProvider to 409 Conflict https://review.openstack.org/577726 | 13:05 |
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| kashyap | stephenfin: Is someone already converting away more of those config help texts into multi-line strings? The single-quotes thing is super tiring. | 13:10 |
| stephenfin | kashyap: What's this is relation to? | 13:10 |
| kashyap | (It's somewhat 'noisy' to do those, but clearly useful in the long run.) | 13:10 |
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| kashyap | stephenfin: Err, sorry, was assuming context. This one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/577385/ | 13:11 |
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| kashyap | In relation to the comment you made, which I addressed. But there are lot of other configs that don't use the multi-line string approach. | 13:11 |
| stephenfin | No one is bulk converting them, no. However, changing them as we go (as you've done there) seems like a viable option to me | 13:11 |
| kashyap | Yeah, I think that's the best too. | 13:12 |
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| stephenfin | I'm pretty sure mriedem, supreme hater of "noise" patches, would prefer that approach too :P | 13:12 |
| kashyap | Yeah, I wasn't vonluteering to produce that noise either :-) | 13:13 |
| mriedem | ``noise`` | 13:13 |
| * kashyap himself frowns on those | 13:13 | |
| mriedem | lyarwood: comments on those patches | 13:13 |
| mriedem | for the evac thing | 13:13 |
| lyarwood | mriedem: thanks | 13:13 |
| * kashyap goes to do some taxes in Dutch. | 13:13 | |
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| sahid | melwitt, mriedem, do you think we could consider https://review.openstack.org/#/c/553072/ for stable? | 13:14 |
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| mriedem | sahid: i wouldn't block it, even though it's enabling something that wasn't on stable for certain types of vifs, but i guess that could be argued as a bug | 13:17 |
| mriedem | might need a release note | 13:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/queens: Be graceful about vif plugging in early ironic driver startup https://review.openstack.org/576948 | 13:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/pike: Ensure resource class cache when listing usages https://review.openstack.org/574327 | 14:39 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: mriedem: cdent: efried: I have a question about allocations for a resize/cold migration | 15:05 |
| * efried listens... | 15:05 | |
| bauzas | dansmith: mriedem: cdent: efried: for the moment, we don't pass the allocations to the driver when calling resize | 15:05 |
| bauzas | but we do it for rebuild | 15:05 |
| bauzas | so, for the moment, we have a problem with vGPUs like said in https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/admin/virtual-gpu.html#caveats | 15:06 |
| mriedem | so pass allocations to the driver on resize | 15:07 |
| efried | yeah, that seems like it was probably just an oversight. | 15:07 |
| bauzas | efried: so, my question is : can I call self.reportclient.get_allocations_for_consumer() for getting all the allocations, even the migration one ? | 15:08 |
| dansmith | I assume anything like this will eventually need allocations yeah | 15:08 |
| mriedem | bauzas: the allocations for the source host moved to the migration object | 15:08 |
| efried | bauzas: As long as you know the migration UUID, yeah. | 15:08 |
| mriedem | you want the allocations for the dest host, which are on the instance | 15:08 |
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| mriedem | are you properly freeing vgpus from the source host when confirm_resize is called? | 15:09 |
| bauzas | mriedem: so, tbc, when calling self.reportclient.get_allocations_for_consumer() in the compute service for resize_instance(), it would give me the migration UUID allocation ? | 15:09 |
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| mriedem | bauzas: it depends on what you need and where you call it | 15:09 |
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| bauzas | I see | 15:09 |
| mriedem | if you're on the dest host and need the vgpus for some kind of claim on the dest host, you want to use the instance uuid | 15:09 |
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| bauzas | if I'm asking for the migration UUID, it would give me the related alloc | 15:10 |
| mriedem | https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/queens/implemented/migration-allocations.html | 15:10 |
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| bauzas | if I'm asking for the instance UUID, it's giving me the instance alloc | 15:10 |
| mriedem | if you're asking for the migration uuid, you get the source host allocations | 15:10 |
| mriedem | during a move, the source host allocations are on the migration record and the dest host allocations are on the instance | 15:10 |
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| bauzas | until we call finish_resize? | 15:10 |
| mriedem | finish_resize != confirm_resize | 15:11 |
| bauzas | oops, yeah | 15:11 |
| bauzas | confirm_resize I meant | 15:11 |
| bauzas | okay, thanks, I was a bit confused | 15:11 |
| mriedem | this does the allocation swap https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conductor/tasks/migrate.py#L27 | 15:11 |
| bauzas | okay, thanks for the link, I think I understand now | 15:11 |
| mriedem | cdent: efried: now that i'm looking at this, fyi on the fixme here re shared providers https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conductor/tasks/migrate.py#L56 | 15:11 |
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| mriedem | so while we might support shared providers*, we've got a pretty big asterisk most likely | 15:12 |
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| cdent | in our copious free time (whooo dawg) we should try to fix that | 15:13 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: so i'm seeing this weird issue where i've got a versioned object with a DictOfStringsField, and the dict has some strings and boolean value | 15:13 |
| mriedem | *'ed fields in it, | 15:13 |
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| mriedem | at some point along the way, the values in the dict are converted to strings, but i'm having a hard time figuring out where that is, but it looks like it must be coming from the coerce() somewhere | 15:14 |
| mriedem | DictOfStringsField means the *values* in the dict are strings right? | 15:14 |
| dansmith | mriedem: if you have a dict of strings, it will str() everything you try to set in there | 15:14 |
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| dansmith | right at the point of setting it on the object, but definitely during/after serialization | 15:14 |
| mriedem | i was playing with that locally and wasn't seeing it at the point of setting the field | 15:14 |
| mriedem | >>> obj = MyObj(foo=vif_details) | 15:15 |
| mriedem | >>> obj.foo | 15:15 |
| mriedem | {'port_filter': True, 'datapath_type': 'system', 'ovs_hybrid_plug': True} | 15:15 |
| dansmith | well, | 15:15 |
| mriedem | with | 15:15 |
| mriedem | >>> class MyObj(base.NovaObject): | 15:15 |
| mriedem | ... VERSION = '1.0' | 15:15 |
| mriedem | ... fields = { | 15:15 |
| mriedem | ... 'foo': fields.DictOfStringsField(), | 15:15 |
| mriedem | ... } | 15:15 |
| mriedem | ... | 15:15 |
| dansmith | if you set the dict on the field and the manipulate the dict, then it won't do it immediately | 15:15 |
| dansmith | okay, well, hmm, | 15:16 |
| dansmith | maybe even when you set the dict it won't because it's complex, but I thought it would | 15:16 |
| dansmith | definitely during serialization though I think | 15:16 |
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| mriedem | hmm | 15:18 |
| mriedem | >>> obj.obj_attr_is_set('foo') | 15:18 |
| mriedem | False | 15:18 |
| mriedem | something weird in my test | 15:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Replace support matrix ext with common library https://review.openstack.org/481304 | 15:25 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: did you @register_if(False) it? | 15:30 |
| dansmith | otherwise you don't get the magic fieldage | 15:30 |
| mriedem | nope | 15:30 |
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| mriedem | http://paste.openstack.org/show/724236/ | 15:32 |
| mriedem | maybe this just doesn't work without some stubs | 15:32 |
| mriedem | or fixture setup | 15:32 |
| mriedem | anyway, i realize i can't use DictOfStringsField | 15:33 |
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| mriedem | because vif_details can have a shitload of random key/value pairs of several types | 15:33 |
| dansmith | that's odd | 15:33 |
| dansmith | if you serialize it does it show up in the result? | 15:34 |
| mriedem | no because it says the field isn't set | 15:34 |
| dansmith | you tried? | 15:34 |
| mriedem | >>> obj.obj_to_primitive() | 15:35 |
| mriedem | {'nova_object.name': 'MyObj', 'nova_object.version': '1.0', 'nova_object.data': {}, 'nova_object.namespace': 'nova'} | 15:35 |
| dansmith | man, that's odd | 15:35 |
| dansmith | is it any different if you don't pass it to __init__ ? | 15:36 |
| dansmith | like o=MyObj(); o.vif_details = | 15:36 |
| mriedem | nope | 15:37 |
| dansmith | I just don't even | 15:37 |
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| mriedem | hmm, we don't have any generic DictField where the values aren't coerced? | 15:41 |
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| mriedem | crap i guess you can't | 15:42 |
| mriedem | Dict is a CompoundFieldType which takes some kind of element | 15:42 |
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| mriedem | and this is why BlockDeviceMapping.connection_info is a StringField... | 15:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova stable/ocata: Ensure resource class cache when listing usages https://review.openstack.org/574279 | 15:49 |
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| dansmith | because it's full of random we don't control at the rpc layer yeah | 15:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Surya Seetharaman proposed openstack/nova master: Make nova list and migration-list ignore down cells https://review.openstack.org/575734 | 15:51 |
| mriedem | right...this is why i'm stressing over this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/515423/28/nova/objects/migrate_data.py@41 | 15:52 |
| dansmith | yeah | 15:52 |
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| cdent | melwitt, mriedem : can I assume that except for truly exceptional circumstances we are done with specs until nearly the end of the cycle (when we start looking at stein stuff) and thus I can leave them off my weekly placement updates henceforth? | 15:58 |
| mriedem | yeah | 15:58 |
| cdent | cool. less noise. thanks. | 15:59 |
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| gibi | mriedem: Is it OK for you if we skip this week's notification subteam meeting? | 16:11 |
| mriedem | gibi: yeah | 16:11 |
| gibi | mriedem: cool. I will send the status mail tomorrow | 16:11 |
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| cfriesen | is it nova or cinder that reports storage capacity to placement? | 16:15 |
| mriedem | nova for now | 16:15 |
| mriedem | cinder doesn't control ephemeral compute host storage | 16:15 |
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| cfriesen | thanks | 16:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add "bind_ports_to_host" neutron API method https://review.openstack.org/523604 | 16:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add "delete_port_binding" network API method https://review.openstack.org/552170 | 16:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add "activate_port_binding" neutron API method https://review.openstack.org/555947 | 16:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Delete port bindings in setup_networks_on_host if teardown=True https://review.openstack.org/556333 | 16:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Implement migrate_instance_start method for neutron https://review.openstack.org/556334 | 16:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add VIFMigrateData object for live migration https://review.openstack.org/515423 | 16:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add VIFMigrateData.get_dest_vif https://review.openstack.org/566931 | 16:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: factor out pre_live_migration plug_vifs call https://review.openstack.org/566932 | 16:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: use dest host port bindings during pre_live_migration https://review.openstack.org/566933 | 16:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: use dest host vif migrate details for live migration https://review.openstack.org/551370 | 16:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Annotate flows and handle PortBindingDeletionFailed in ComputeManager https://review.openstack.org/551371 | 16:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Port binding based on events during live migration https://review.openstack.org/434870 | 16:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: conductor: use port binding extended API in during live migrate https://review.openstack.org/522537 | 16:19 |
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| mnaser | for those who were interested in the whole discussion around multi-cell + glance.. cloudnull brought up this tool which could probably be refactored to use glance_store to sync glance servers.. https://github.com/rcbops/glance-image-sync | 16:50 |
| mnaser | mriedem: if you are around, i proposed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576944/ to help with OSA upgrades (and probably other tools).. i'd appreciate your feedback (i didnt fix lint stuff cause i figured it'll need revisions anyways) | 16:51 |
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| mriedem | very interesting | 16:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: network: Unchain '_get_phynet_info' from '_get_port_vnic_info' https://review.openstack.org/564443 | 17:19 |
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| dansmith | stephenfin: did you see my comments here? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/564444/7..9/nova/network/neutronv2/api.py | 17:23 |
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| stephenfin | dansmith: I did and I think I've addressed them all, though I didn't leave replies. Will do so now. Let me know if there's something I did miss and I'll address it asap | 17:25 |
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| dansmith | stephenfin: okay I guess it doesn't seem like anything is really different from the original | 17:27 |
| dansmith | oh, wait, I see you don't actually split it in this one | 17:28 |
| dansmith | I was thinking you'd split first, so I was looking for this to be the split patch | 17:28 |
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| stephenfin | dansmith: Caught rotten. I meant to actually do it but got my ordering mixed up and didn't want to go through the misery of another rebase :D I can if it would be preferable though | 17:33 |
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| dansmith | it's okay I just had in my head that the split was (would be) first, and so I wasn't noticing that it wasn't actually a split | 17:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lei Zhang proposed openstack/nova master: Add method to get cpu traits https://review.openstack.org/560317 | 17:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Heal allocations with incomplete consumer information https://review.openstack.org/574488 | 18:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Heal allocations with incomplete consumer information https://review.openstack.org/574488 | 18:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor _heal_instances_in_cell https://review.openstack.org/577896 | 18:20 |
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| efried | stephenfin: do you happen to have a patch that depends-on the driver-notes patch? If not Ima throw one together to see it in action. | 19:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Use consumer generation in _heal_allocations_for_instance https://review.openstack.org/577905 | 19:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add instance.unlock notification https://review.openstack.org/576703 | 19:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/pike: placement: Fix HTTP error generation https://review.openstack.org/571218 | 19:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: DNM: Testing driver-notes https://review.openstack.org/577908 | 19:28 |
| efried | stephenfin: FYI: ^ | 19:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Heal allocations with incomplete consumer information https://review.openstack.org/574488 | 19:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor _heal_instances_in_cell https://review.openstack.org/577896 | 19:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Use consumer generation in _heal_allocations_for_instance https://review.openstack.org/577905 | 19:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Demonstrate bug in consumer generation handling https://review.openstack.org/577914 | 19:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Fix bug in consumer generation handling https://review.openstack.org/577915 | 19:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Use instance project/user when creating RequestSpec during resize reschedule https://review.openstack.org/577918 | 20:16 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: i assume there was no cells v2 meeting last week since mel and i were out? did surya talk to you about the handling a down cell stuff at all? | 20:17 |
| dansmith | mriedem: we did, but not in the meeting | 20:18 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I put some details in the spec review | 20:18 |
| mriedem | ok | 20:18 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: you reading that now such that I can expect some follow-on discussion here shortly? | 20:22 |
| mriedem | just opened it | 20:22 |
| dansmith | aight | 20:23 |
| mriedem | heh, i did ask for super user / ops input in the ML but got crickets | 20:23 |
| dansmith | ack | 20:23 |
| dansmith | well, in the absence of anything from them, this is the biggest data point we have I think | 20:23 |
| mriedem | "DELETE would "succeed" and never happen, like it does today for lots of things" | 20:27 |
| mriedem | not sure about that - i think we'd get an error looking up the instance to delete | 20:27 |
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| dansmith | yeah, I think I waffled about that | 20:27 |
| mriedem | we'd find the instance mapping and then try to pull the instance from the cell and that would 500- | 20:28 |
| dansmith | yeah | 20:28 |
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| dansmith | I think he was also hoping that delete would be queued, which it wouldn't, IIRC | 20:28 |
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| mriedem | right you'd get a 500 and have to wait until the cell is back up | 20:33 |
| mriedem | or a 503 or something | 20:33 |
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| mriedem | the main issues gibi and i had was w/o a new microversion, we'd be returning these shells with a bunch of bogus field data, and a lot of the fields aren't simple strings where we can just say UNKNOWN | 20:33 |
| mriedem | paging and filtering is also a problem in the spec, i think i said we ignore down cells if we're paging and filtering | 20:34 |
| mriedem | *we should | 20:34 |
| mriedem | if i'm following this irc log conversation, it sounds like we're saying: | 20:34 |
| mriedem | 1. new microversion | 20:34 |
| mriedem | 2. if < new microversion and there are down cells, we omit those instances when listing | 20:34 |
| dansmith | mriedem: right | 20:35 |
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| dansmith | which is what we do now once her patch merges | 20:35 |
| dansmith | just omit things, | 20:35 |
| mriedem | 3. if >= new microversion, we return what we can, but for missing instances, we don't try to return a full instance, just the uuid and project_id (what we can get from instance_mappings) | 20:35 |
| dansmith | and then the new microversion will be opting into "I've read the contract that says values can be null now" | 20:35 |
| mriedem | oh and status=UNKNOWN | 20:35 |
| dansmith | yes | 20:35 |
| tssurya | are the values going to be NULL, or are the keys going to be totally missing ? | 20:35 |
| dansmith | and maybe "anything we can get from reqspec" | 20:35 |
| dansmith | tssurya: either, missing would be better | 20:36 |
| mriedem | i wouldn't really want to hit reqspec while listing 1000 instances | 20:36 |
| mriedem | GET /servers/{id} hitting reqspec would be ok with me | 20:36 |
| dansmith | mriedem: hence the "and maybe" | 20:36 |
| tssurya | dansmith: ack | 20:36 |
| dansmith | mriedem: he really wanted instance name, as you saw | 20:36 |
| dansmith | mriedem: so we may come across something where it's worth the hit (even though not name, obviously) | 20:36 |
| mriedem | i didn't read the entire irc log | 20:36 |
| tssurya | mriedem: I thought we decided on going with 503 if we do a nova show on a down cell | 20:36 |
| mriedem | i can't remember | 20:37 |
| dansmith | yeah, 50x on show probably makes sense | 20:37 |
| mriedem | also, | 20:37 |
| tssurya | and for a simple start, we should just stick to uuid maybe and status and leave the rest out ? | 20:37 |
| mriedem | the name from the reqspec could be old | 20:37 |
| dansmith | name' | 20:37 |
| mriedem | you can update and rename a server, and that doesn't update the reqspec | 20:37 |
| dansmith | isn't in there | 20:37 |
| tssurya | we don't have info on the name anywhere | 20:37 |
| mriedem | oh yeah | 20:38 |
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| mriedem | ok | 20:38 |
| dansmith | mriedem: so you're okay with this it sounds like? | 20:38 |
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| dansmith | and gibi seemed okay with it barring a couple more questions | 20:38 |
| mriedem | it's a compromise | 20:38 |
| dansmith | anything is a compromise when we're talking about how to handle missing info :) | 20:38 |
| mriedem | i seem to remember the godaddy guys in boston also wanting name... | 20:38 |
| dansmith | yeah, and I think also IP info :/ | 20:39 |
| dansmith | but one step at a time | 20:39 |
| mriedem | "we want cells v1 but not so shitty" | 20:39 |
| dansmith | heh | 20:39 |
| tssurya | :) | 20:39 |
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| mriedem | yeah L42 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-forum-using-searchlight-to-list-instances | 20:40 |
| mriedem | this is part of why we had the whole searchlight thing | 20:41 |
| dansmith | let it go. | 20:41 |
| mriedem | oh i did long ago | 20:41 |
| mriedem | just moaning from the grave | 20:41 |
| tssurya | umm, why did we let it go ? | 20:41 |
| tssurya | I mean you* | 20:41 |
| tssurya | meaning if so much work was already put in | 20:42 |
| mriedem | tssurya: see that etherpad | 20:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Use instance project/user when creating RequestSpec during resize reschedule https://review.openstack.org/577926 | 20:42 |
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| tssurya | got it | 20:43 |
| mriedem | tssurya: it was just complicated | 20:43 |
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| mriedem | even though i wrote a masterful spec | 20:43 |
| mriedem | dansmith: tssurya: so i'll try to reply to the ML thread and summarize and you can correct whatever i screw up | 20:44 |
| dansmith | sounds good | 20:44 |
| tssurya | mriedem: cool, thanks | 20:44 |
| mnaser | is there some wild security reason behind why we don't share hostId in metadata? | 20:44 |
| mnaser | in infra we're having issues with a provider and gathering that info would be useful (and i can imagine many other anti affinity scheduling scenarios) | 20:45 |
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| mnaser | by anti-affinity, i mean the application running in the vm being able to do anti-affinity by knowing what host it's on | 20:45 |
| mriedem | hostId being the hashed thing from GET /servers/{id}? | 20:46 |
| mnaser | yeah | 20:46 |
| mriedem | likely no one ever asked to add it before | 20:46 |
| mnaser | so it can show up in configdrive | 20:46 |
| mnaser | oh | 20:46 |
| mriedem | you could vendordata it in if you needed, but that wouldn't be standard | 20:47 |
| mnaser | well i figure it'd be useful in general | 20:47 |
| mnaser | why throw stuff in vendor data if it has a general usefulness :x | 20:47 |
| mriedem | yeah i know | 20:47 |
| mriedem | if it's in the compute rest api i'm not sure of any reason it shouldn't be in metadata api if it's useful to the guest | 20:48 |
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| mriedem | we throw the az in there for example | 20:48 |
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| mnaser | well i'll push up a patch and because it seems simple enough and we can discuss there | 20:49 |
| mnaser | (famous last words) | 20:49 |
| mriedem | well, it's technically an api change | 20:49 |
| mriedem | it would require a version bump to the metadata api | 20:49 |
| mnaser | is there some document for me to review about this | 20:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/ocata: Use instance project/user when creating RequestSpec during resize reschedule https://review.openstack.org/577929 | 20:50 |
| mriedem | SURE IS | 20:50 |
| mriedem | mnaser: https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/contributor/blueprints.html | 20:50 |
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| mnaser | oh god i was hoping i'd avoid that but ok | 20:50 |
| mriedem | you'd have to talk to the boss about getting a spec freeze exception | 20:50 |
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| mnaser | "API changes always require a design discussion." | 20:51 |
| mnaser | o | 20:51 |
| mriedem | which for something coming up post-spec freeze when we have other specs that didn't make the cut, would be kind of a d*ck move if we gave this an exception for rocky | 20:51 |
| mnaser | nah, i wouldn't want to jump the line | 20:51 |
| mriedem | even though it's like a 4 line change... | 20:52 |
| mriedem | idk, it's worth bringing up i guess | 20:52 |
| mnaser | let me check if it really will be a 4 line change | 20:52 |
| mriedem | i don't have a big problem with making exceptions for trivial and clearly useful things | 20:52 |
| mriedem | it's basically: | 20:52 |
| mriedem | ROCKY_META_HOSTID = 'new date' | 20:53 |
| mriedem | if version >= ROCKY_META_HOSTID: metadata['hostId'] = hashed hostid | 20:53 |
| mriedem | plus a test | 20:53 |
| mnaser | yeah that's what i figured it would be | 20:53 |
| mnaser | i guess i'll write the simple patch and bring it up in the meeting or on ML, if people aren't opposed, i'll go through writing the spec | 20:54 |
| mnaser | mainly because the time taken writing the spec is literally more than the 4 lines involved | 20:54 |
| mnaser | oh | 20:55 |
| mnaser | and there was already an api bump in rocky | 20:55 |
| mriedem | this would be a delta | 20:55 |
| mriedem | see NEWTON_ONE and NEWTON_TWO | 20:55 |
| mnaser | oh | 20:55 |
| mnaser | gotcha | 20:55 |
| mriedem | like, we're not great about versioning the metadata api, or testing it, or documenting it, like the compute rest api, | 20:56 |
| mriedem | but we still have *some* standards | 20:56 |
| mnaser | um | 20:56 |
| mnaser | the date for rocky is the openstack release date | 20:56 |
| mnaser | so what would ROCKY_TWO be lol | 20:56 |
| mriedem | gdi | 20:57 |
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| mnaser | :( | 20:57 |
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| mriedem | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ9d7SWF7Z0 | 20:57 |
| mnaser | it looks like it is 1 bump per release rather than per change in metadata | 20:57 |
| mnaser | lols | 20:58 |
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| mriedem | so NEWTON_ONE must have been the one that didn't follow the release date, | 20:59 |
| mriedem | but the others do yeah https://releases.openstack.org/ | 20:59 |
| mriedem | idk, if we stuck to our CD guns we'd require at least a delta, like 1 day after ROCKY(_ONE) | 20:59 |
| mnaser | seem a bit wild | 21:00 |
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| mnaser | lol | 21:00 |
| mriedem | note the note from mikal in there | 21:00 |
| mriedem | # NOTE(mikal): think of these strings as version numbers. They traditionally | 21:00 |
| mriedem | # correlate with OpenStack release dates, with all the changes for a given | 21:00 |
| mriedem | # release bundled into a single version. Note that versions in the future are | 21:00 |
| mriedem | # hidden from the listing, but can still be requested explicitly, which is | 21:00 |
| mriedem | # required for testing purposes. We know this isn't great, but its inherited | 21:00 |
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| mriedem | # from EC2, which this needs to be compatible with. | 21:00 |
| mriedem | if we go by that, then you'd just add your thing to ROCKY and CD be damned | 21:00 |
| mnaser | technically means no api bump | 21:01 |
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| mriedem | yeah, sure, like i said, we aren't real strict or good about the metadata api | 21:01 |
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| mriedem | IT SHOULD BE ITS OWN SERVICE! | 21:01 |
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| mriedem | er, project | 21:02 |
| mriedem | repo | 21:02 |
| mriedem | mnaser: just patch it up and send to the ML for discussion i gues | 21:02 |
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| cfriesen | the number of hoops metadata jumps through between neutron and nova is nuts | 21:07 |
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| mriedem | cfriesen: do you have suggestions for improvements? | 21:11 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-June/131803.html | 21:18 |
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| efried | mriedem: Would you please have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576877/ -- it's a followon to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576588/ where mgoddard pointed out an oopsie I made. | 21:20 |
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| mriedem | sure | 21:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mohammed Naser proposed openstack/nova master: Add hostId to metadata service https://review.openstack.org/577933 | 21:24 |
| dansmith | mriedem: looks right to me | 21:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Make nova list and migration-list ignore down cells https://review.openstack.org/575734 | 21:29 |
| mnaser | mriedem: ^ + http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-June/131804.html for/if whenever you want to comment about that | 21:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mohammed Naser proposed openstack/nova master: Add hostId to metadata service https://review.openstack.org/577933 | 21:39 |
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| efried | mnaser: I'll refrain from using the ML for what may be a stupid question, but... | 21:42 |
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| mriedem | efried: questions for clarification https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576877/2 | 21:42 |
| efried | mnaser: Might the hostId be omitted from metadata because it could pose a security hole? And/or because it breaks the Principle Of Cloudiness? | 21:43 |
| efried | mriedem: thx, looking... | 21:43 |
| mriedem | efried: hostId is in the GET /servers/{id} rest api already | 21:43 |
| mriedem | https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/#show-server-details | 21:43 |
| efried | Is that accessible from within the VM, though? | 21:43 |
| mriedem | no, but it's accessible by the tenant | 21:43 |
| efried | so that's the point, innit? | 21:43 |
| mnaser | efried: i mean, we expose the az. hostid is just a more dug-down version of it | 21:43 |
| mriedem | "An ID string representing the host. This is a hashed value so will not actually look like a hostname, and is hashed with data from the project_id, so the same physical host as seen by two different project_ids, will be different. It is useful when within the same project you need to determine if two instances are on the same or different physical hosts for the purposes of availability or performance." | 21:44 |
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| mnaser | yeah and because it's hashed, nothing to worry about in terms of exposing anything | 21:44 |
| efried | Oh, yeah, it's obfuscate... | 21:44 |
| efried | d | 21:44 |
| mriedem | efried: i could create my server, then get the hostId from the compute rest api, post that into the servers user metadata, and then get it into the guest via the metadata api | 21:44 |
| mriedem | so this is all possible today, just in an annoying roundabout way | 21:44 |
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| efried | mriedem: Right, but that would again be a thing you would have to do from outside. Rather than it being always available from within the VM without any choice in the matter. | 21:45 |
| efried | like a conf option to say whether to expose it or not. | 21:45 |
| mnaser | well, vms also have access to the instance type they are, the az they sit in | 21:45 |
| efried | I really have no skin in this game, just blabbing a thing that came to mind when I saw this. | 21:45 |
| mnaser | oh yeah i totally thought about that, but i just don't see too much of an issue | 21:46 |
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| efried | mriedem: responded on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576877/ | 21:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Add instance.lock notification https://review.openstack.org/576702 | 21:52 |
| mriedem | efried: ok +W | 21:52 |
| efried | mriedem: tbc, prior to the preceding patch where I f'ed up, ironic was "broken" in that they would strip out any traits set outside of ironic. Then I broke it differently (and arguably worse) by the preceding patch to where we would only ever *add* traits, never take them away. This is restoring the previous less-broken behavior. Eventually we will (probably) unbreak this by making logic that only adds+removes traits the | 21:53 |
| efried | mriedem: Thanks. | 21:53 |
| mriedem | yup | 21:54 |
| mriedem | following the update_traits mention in the RT from the commit message clarified that for me | 21:54 |
| efried | cool | 21:54 |
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| cfriesen | mriedem: RE: the metadata thing...not sure of a way to simplify it while still letting it work like it does now. For newish libvirt something like virtio-vsock would be simpler. | 21:56 |
| cfriesen | But it'd require guest support | 21:56 |
| mriedem | cfriesen: pretty sure dansmith and artom have talked about that a few times | 21:57 |
| mriedem | also, note that libvirt isn't our only virt driver... | 21:57 |
| cfriesen | yeah, I know. :) | 21:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (1) https://review.openstack.org/572018 | 22:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (2) https://review.openstack.org/573481 | 22:00 |
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| mriedem | efried: replied in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/577905/ | 22:01 |
| efried | ... | 22:01 |
| mriedem | i.e. those changes are separate on purpose | 22:02 |
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| mriedem | i'm trying to leave heal_allocations as backportable as possible for now | 22:02 |
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| efried | I figured it was something like that. But no current plans to backport the bottom patch (else it would have a bug etc.) right? | 22:03 |
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| mriedem | nothing immediate from me no | 22:14 |
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| mriedem | but i wouldn't be totally opposed if some operators wanted some of this stuff on stable | 22:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Add instance.unlock notification https://review.openstack.org/576703 | 23:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (3) https://review.openstack.org/574104 | 23:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (4) https://review.openstack.org/574106 | 23:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (5) https://review.openstack.org/574110 | 23:47 |
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