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| openstackgerrit | karim proposed openstack/nova master: Handle rebuild of instances with image traits https://review.openstack.org/569498 | 00:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: Use ThreadPoolExecutor for max_concurrent_live_migrations https://review.openstack.org/563505 | 02:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: [placement] Add test demonstrating bug 1778743 https://review.openstack.org/578126 | 02:55 |
| openstack | bug 1778743 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "When POSTing to /allocations with multiple consumers it is possible violate inventory capacity constraints" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1778743 - Assigned to Chris Dent (cdent) | 02:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: Compute: add support to abort queued live migration https://review.openstack.org/568542 | 03:01 |
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| deepak_mourya | efried: Hi, what should be the good string to use here according to you https://review.openstack.org/#/c/577726/6/nova/api/openstack/placement/handlers/resource_provider.py | 03:08 |
| efried | deepak_mourya: Yeah, sorry, I didn't leave a lot of detail on that. Are you familiar with the framework for defining the error codes? | 03:09 |
| deepak_mourya | efried: It's ok, any example for the same in the nova before ? | 03:10 |
| efried | deepak_mourya: You want to define it in nova/api/openstack/placement/errors.py, and then look at how the other consts therein are being used. | 03:10 |
| efried | deepak_mourya: But you can do that in a followon patch. The -1 is just for the failing functional test. | 03:10 |
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| deepak_mourya | efried: ok, i didn't understand much from here nova/api/openstack/placement/errors.py | 03:16 |
| deepak_mourya | ok so what exactly these things are | 03:16 |
| deepak_mourya | DEFAULT = 'placement.undefined_code' | 03:16 |
| deepak_mourya | INVENTORY_INUSE = 'placement.inventory.inuse' | 03:16 |
| deepak_mourya | CONCURRENT_UPDATE = 'placement.concurrent_update' | 03:16 |
| deepak_mourya | Do i need to create another consts for the same? | 03:17 |
| efried | deepak_mourya: Yes. It's explained in this spec: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/rocky/approved/placement-api-error-handling.html | 03:17 |
| efried | deepak_mourya: But again, don't try to do it in this same patch. Submit a separate one on top of this one. | 03:18 |
| deepak_mourya | efried: ok i will go through with it first, thanks for the reply and help | 03:19 |
| efried | deepak_mourya: Thanks for the fix! | 03:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | xulei proposed openstack/nova master: Disable limits if force_hosts or force_nodes is set https://review.openstack.org/576693 | 03:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: WIP: Microversion 2.64 - Use new format policy in server group https://review.openstack.org/578261 | 03:52 |
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| gmann | melwitt: can you approve this BP (queens continue work). I have started the coding on this and should be able to finish soon- https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/api-extensions-merge-rocky | 04:27 |
| gmann | melwitt: do not want to bring this for reviewer untill BP is approved. | 04:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: [placement] Demonstrate bug in consumer generation handling https://review.openstack.org/577914 | 04:59 |
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| gmann | nova api office hour time | 05:59 |
| gmann | #startmeeting nova api | 06:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 27 06:00:22 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 06:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 06:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova api)" | 06:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 06:00 |
| gmann | who all here? | 06:00 |
| gmann | might be many china folks are in linuxcon as alex_xu mentioned | 06:01 |
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| gmann | just checking if someone here so we can start the API things and from next week we can have office hour with more people | 06:02 |
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| gmann | ok seems no one available today so we can skip today. i will send the update i collected from bugs etc over email. | 06:09 |
| gmann | #endmeeting | 06:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Current runways: report-cpu-features-as-traits / numa-aware-vswitches / complex-anti-affinity-policies -- This channel is for Nova development. For support of Nova deployments, please use #openstack." | 06:09 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 27 06:09:38 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 06:09 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2018/nova_api.2018-06-27-06.00.html | 06:09 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2018/nova_api.2018-06-27-06.00.txt | 06:09 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2018/nova_api.2018-06-27-06.00.log.html | 06:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | jiang wei proposed openstack/nova master: Add action initiator attribute to the instance payload https://review.openstack.org/536243 | 06:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova master: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/578019 | 06:50 |
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| tssurya | good morning gibi: regarding the handling the cell down spec, I wanted to know your take on these concerns you specified (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557369/4/specs/rocky/approved/handling-down-cell.rst@85): since we are anyways going for a new microversion, I was thinking if its better to just skip all these keys totally or put up 'UNKNOWN' values for those keys. do you have a strong take? | 08:03 |
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| gibi | tssurya: I prefer not including the keys we dont now the value at all as that is a bit harder to missunderstood than a field with some unknown value. I don't have this as a strong take as the microversion bump can be used to precisely define the behavior anyhow. | 08:44 |
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| tssurya | gibi: yea thanks, | 08:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Merge server create schema for config drive extension https://review.openstack.org/578329 | 08:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Merge server create schema for multiple create extension https://review.openstack.org/578338 | 09:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Microversion 2.64 - Use new format policy in server group https://review.openstack.org/578261 | 09:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Merge server create schema for BDM v2 extension https://review.openstack.org/577185 | 10:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Use nova.db.api directly https://review.openstack.org/543262 | 10:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Fix capacity tracking in POST /allocations https://review.openstack.org/578133 | 10:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Fix capacity tracking in POST /allocations https://review.openstack.org/578133 | 10:12 |
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| openstack | bug 1778591 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "GET /allocations/{uuid} on a consumer with no allocations provides no generation" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1778591 | 10:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Fix API reference for os-floating-ips-bulk https://review.openstack.org/578106 | 10:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Add rules column to instance_group_policy table. https://review.openstack.org/560832 | 11:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Yikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Add InstanceGroupPolicy object https://review.openstack.org/573628 | 11:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Yikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Add policy to InstanceGroup object and api models. https://review.openstack.org/563375 | 11:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Yikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Add policy field to ServerGroup notification object https://review.openstack.org/563401 | 11:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Yikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Change the anti-affinity Filter to adapt to new policy https://review.openstack.org/571166 | 11:09 |
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| melen | Guys, anyone knows what service calls the procedure of creating ssh-keys, distribute them among compute nodes - for migration use? | 11:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Deepak Mourya proposed openstack/nova master: Handle CannotDeleteParentResourceProvider to 409 Conflict https://review.openstack.org/577726 | 13:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Deepak Mourya proposed openstack/nova master: Handle CannotDeleteParentResourceProvider to 409 Conflict https://review.openstack.org/577726 | 13:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Fix unit test modifying global state https://review.openstack.org/578387 | 13:41 |
| gibi | mriedem, stephenfin: this ^^ was the problem casing my RequestSpec instances to behave strangely | 13:46 |
| mriedem | already approved | 13:46 |
| * stephenfin looks | 13:46 | |
| gibi | mriedem: thanks | 13:46 |
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| gibi | it was nicely lost two days to tracking it down | 13:48 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: add mtu to libvirt xml for ethernet and bridge types https://review.openstack.org/578010 | 13:49 |
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| dansmith | gibi: nice | 13:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] demonstrate part of bug 1778591 with a gabbi test https://review.openstack.org/578139 | 13:58 |
| openstack | bug 1778591 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "GET /allocations/{uuid} on a consumer with no allocations provides no generation" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1778591 | 13:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Merge server create schema for config drive extension https://review.openstack.org/578329 | 14:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Merge server create schema for config drive extension https://review.openstack.org/578329 | 14:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Merge server create schema for keypair extension https://review.openstack.org/578332 | 14:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Merge server create schema for multiple create extension https://review.openstack.org/578338 | 14:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Merge server create schema for multiple create extension https://review.openstack.org/578338 | 14:07 |
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| mriedem | melwitt: fyi, i had removed the bp for ^ from rocky since there weren't any changes posted as of june 13th, but now there are several https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/api-extensions-merge-rocky+(status:open+OR+status:merged) so i guess throw it back into the rocky mix if you want | 14:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Merge server create schema for scheduler hint extension https://review.openstack.org/578343 | 14:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Merge server create schema for scheduler hint extension https://review.openstack.org/578343 | 14:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Merge server create schema for security group extension https://review.openstack.org/578345 | 14:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Usages per project and user (v1.8, v1.9) https://review.openstack.org/514646 | 14:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/osc-placement master: CLI allocation candidates (v1.10) https://review.openstack.org/514647 | 14:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/osc-placement master: New dict format of allocations (v1.11, v1.12) https://review.openstack.org/542819 | 14:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Transactionally update allocations (v1.13) https://review.openstack.org/546674 | 14:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Add nested resource providers (v1.14) https://review.openstack.org/546675 | 14:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Limit allocation candidates (v1.15, v1.16) https://review.openstack.org/548043 | 14:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Allocation candidates parameter: required (v1.17) https://review.openstack.org/548326 | 14:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Drop API compat handling for old compute error cases https://review.openstack.org/546256 | 14:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Merge server create schema for security group extension https://review.openstack.org/578345 | 14:38 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: you should take a look at this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/563375/ - it's attempting to deprecate InstanceGroup.policies (which is a list of policy names - even though a group can only ever have 1 policy associated with it), and add InstanceGroup.policy which is a new InstanceGroupPolicy object - but it straddles both fields during the deprecation. i'm not sure if we can just drop the InstanceGroup.policies fie | 14:47 |
| mriedem | like metadetails in there) and just handle the backport compat if necessary? | 14:47 |
| mriedem | but the code handling both is overly complicated imo | 14:47 |
| mriedem | yikun: ^ | 14:47 |
| dansmith | mriedem: okay in a sec | 14:48 |
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| mriedem | and gerrit is dead | 14:50 |
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| mriedem | nvm | 14:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove compatibility code for instance groups https://review.openstack.org/578192 | 14:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove unused DB API instance_group_delete method https://review.openstack.org/578223 | 14:55 |
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| melwitt | mriedem_afk: copy that | 15:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Merge server create schema for user data extension https://review.openstack.org/578349 | 15:08 |
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| dansmith | mriedem_afk: commented on that policy thing, let me know if that all makes sense | 15:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | qingszhao proposed openstack/os-traits master: Add release note link in README https://review.openstack.org/578444 | 15:19 |
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| fungi | mriedem_afk: when you have a sec, i'm curious whether https://review.openstack.org/572195 (or more specifically its stable backport) is considered sufficient to mitigate https://launchpad.net/bugs/1742102 on upgrade without needing any configuration adjustments | 15:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1742102 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Simple user can disable compute" [High,In progress] | 15:20 |
| fungi | just trying to decide how to move forward on the report now that those related backports have all merged | 15:20 |
| dansmith | fungi: that's the point | 15:20 |
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| fungi | cool, i wonder why they weren't flagged as fixing that bug. can we consider those bugtasks fix-committed now? | 15:21 |
| dansmith | fungi: second paragraph of the commit message | 15:21 |
| dansmith | fungi: because that bug is also about the fact that we consider overquota for volumes as a retryable event | 15:22 |
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| fungi | ahh. and someone retrying overquota volume requests can still be used as a denial of service attack against compute nodes? | 15:23 |
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| dansmith | no, meaning compute auto-retrying something we know will fail is just a waste of resources | 15:23 |
| dansmith | the user can retry of course, but we shouldn't automatically retry something we know is going to fail again | 15:24 |
| dansmith | we have a list of things that we know are terminal and just cause the build to go to error, | 15:24 |
| dansmith | and this bug is also indicating we should do that for this situation, aside from the fact that it shouldn't have counted against the build failures for the disabler thing | 15:24 |
| fungi | okay, so the bug report remains open, but the security vulnerability described in the bug is no longer relevant on upgrade to the related patches | 15:25 |
| dansmith | aye | 15:25 |
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| fungi | perfect, thanks! i'll move forward on drafting the advisory and get some input on the wording once i have it fleshed out | 15:25 |
| dansmith | okay | 15:26 |
| openstackgerrit | qingszhao proposed openstack/os-vif master: Add release note link in README https://review.openstack.org/578446 | 15:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/os-vif master: Add release note link in README https://review.openstack.org/578446 | 15:52 |
| mriedem | dansmith: ok | 15:52 |
| mriedem | dansmith: also this was ok https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578192/ | 15:52 |
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| mriedem | the failing functional test was a known thing | 15:53 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I saw | 15:57 |
| dansmith | you can imagine why I assumed... :) | 15:57 |
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| mriedem | replies on some of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/563375/17/nova/objects/instance_group.py | 16:03 |
| mriedem | i think we're mostly on the same page though | 16:03 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: replied | 16:19 |
| dansmith | I plied, then I plied again | 16:19 |
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| melwitt | okay, just got off the phone with the rdo cloud peeps (kforde) and the state of the instance was that it had no instance mapping (no row) and it only existed as a build request. there was no other reference to the instance, and it was stuck in vm_state 'building' and task_state 'scheduling' | 16:26 |
| melwitt | it couldn't be deleted because it failed to find an instance mapping (no instance with uuid found) | 16:27 |
| mriedem | dansmith: ok i'm not sure i'm following all of the lazy-load stuff you're talking about | 16:27 |
| mriedem | not sure if you mean the joinedload on the db object? | 16:27 |
| mriedem | when you say lazy-load, i think obj_load_attr() | 16:28 |
| mriedem | melwitt: ok was that instance created in like mitaka? | 16:28 |
| melwitt | mriedem: I don't think so, no. the deployment is ocata and he said there's been no upgrade or change around the time the instance was created (it was created a month ago) | 16:29 |
| melwitt | do we currently have code that will handle this case, no instance mapping but build request only, for a delete? (mostly rhetorical, will check the code) | 16:30 |
| mriedem | we create the instance mapping at the same time that we create the build request, in the api | 16:30 |
| mriedem | so it doesn't really make sense, unless we have something that accidentally deleted the instance mapping, but we don't do that anywhere in ocata as far as i know | 16:30 |
| melwitt | hrm. | 16:30 |
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| mriedem | and is it reproducable? | 16:31 |
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| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/ocata/nova/compute/api.py#L1010 | 16:31 |
| melwitt | no, not yet. this is the second time they've found instances in that state but we don't yet know how it's happening | 16:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: network: Always retrieve network information if available https://review.openstack.org/564444 | 16:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: network: Retrieve tunneled status in '_get_physnet_info' https://review.openstack.org/564445 | 16:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: objects: Add NUMACell.network_metadata https://review.openstack.org/564439 | 16:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: objects: Add NUMATopologyLimits.networks https://review.openstack.org/575486 | 16:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: hardware: Start accounting for networks in NUMA placement https://review.openstack.org/564448 | 16:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: objects: Add RequestSpec.network_metadata https://review.openstack.org/564442 | 16:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: scheduler: Start utilizing RequestSpec.network_metadata https://review.openstack.org/564452 | 16:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: conf: Add '[neutron] physnets' and related options https://review.openstack.org/564440 | 16:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Start populating NUMACell.network_metadata field https://review.openstack.org/564441 | 16:32 |
| mriedem | melwitt: and they don't have any errors in the logs? | 16:33 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: stephenfin: did you guys ever talk about the physnet/tunneled modeling stuff? | 16:33 |
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| stephenfin | mriedem: Nope. I didn't get a chance today. Can we do that tomorrow afternoon? | 16:34 |
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| mriedem | i can | 16:34 |
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| stephenfin | Cool. The above was simply reworking based on the comments I did have. I can respin based on whatever comes out of that tomorrow | 16:35 |
| stephenfin | Though I did (hopefully) explain what I'm doing with additional comments where I set those fields | 16:35 |
| dansmith | I'm out the rest of the week | 16:36 |
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| dansmith | but I think you guys can handle it | 16:36 |
| stephenfin | (y) | 16:37 |
| stephenfin | Cool. I'll give you a shout tomorrow morning (for you) so, mriedem | 16:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/os-traits master: Add release note link in README https://review.openstack.org/578444 | 16:56 |
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| mriedem | i'm not sure i can handle it | 17:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove unused DB API instance_group_member* methods https://review.openstack.org/578488 | 17:07 |
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| tssurya | dansmith: do we have a cells meeting today? | 17:19 |
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| dansmith | tssurya: I dunno, do we? | 17:19 |
| tssurya | I don't have much (working on the spec implementation and POCs) | 17:20 |
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| melwitt | I don't have anything meeting worthy | 17:21 |
| tssurya | ah and this funny but legit bug, : https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1778515 I guess it should be a doc fix | 17:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1778515 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova-manage list_cells doesn't work if some special characters are in the passwords" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Surya Seetharaman (tssurya) | 17:21 |
| dansmith | okay I don't have anything | 17:21 |
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| tssurya | unless someone has better ideas | 17:21 |
| melwitt | we talked about that a bit yesterday | 17:21 |
| tssurya | oh just saw mriedem's comment | 17:22 |
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| melwitt | tssurya: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-nova/%23openstack-nova.2018-06-26.log.html#t2018-06-26T21:23:37 | 17:23 |
| mriedem | i haven't gone over the spec updates yet | 17:23 |
| tssurya | okay then I don't have anything else :) thanks | 17:23 |
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| mriedem | i would appreciate reviews on this regression bug fix which is cells related https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576161/ | 17:23 |
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| mriedem | since that regression was backported and released in queens as well | 17:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove unused DB API instance_group_delete method https://review.openstack.org/578223 | 17:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove unused DB API instance_group_member* methods https://review.openstack.org/578488 | 17:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove remaining legacy DB API instance_group* methods https://review.openstack.org/578497 | 17:24 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: this was the queens backport for tssurya's fix to ignore down cells while listing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578152/ - you might want to hit that before heading out | 17:27 |
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| dansmith | ah cool thanks | 17:27 |
| mriedem | tssurya: i assume you'll also want that in pike, although cern is at queens now so maybe you personally don't care | 17:27 |
| mriedem | but others might | 17:27 |
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| mriedem | i think mgagne is going to queens as well | 17:27 |
| mriedem | not sure about godaddy | 17:27 |
| mriedem | or nectar | 17:28 |
| tssurya | mriedem: true we only want things in queens now :D | 17:28 |
| mriedem | SpamapS: are you guys going to queens for cells v2? | 17:28 |
| mriedem | multi-cell i mean | 17:28 |
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| mgagne | mriedem: we are far from starting the process but that's the goal yes | 17:28 |
| mriedem | ok | 17:28 |
| dansmith | mriedem: ah yeah I had looked at that patch of yours and forgot to circle back after the typo | 17:29 |
| tssurya | mriedem: I will put a backport out to pike as well , once the queens one gets merged just in case | 17:29 |
| dansmith | mah bad | 17:29 |
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| mriedem | while i'm begging for stable reviews, this is a simple latent bug fix, hitting people in the ops list (that's how it came up) https://review.openstack.org/#/q/Iaaf7f68d6874fd5d6e737e7d2bc589ea4a048fee | 17:30 |
| mriedem | we screw up reschedules for a failed resize if you're using the multitenant aggregates filter | 17:30 |
| mriedem | tenant isolation filter i mean | 17:30 |
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| dansmith | I guess I should highlight this to the cells people too: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578163/ | 17:37 |
| dansmith | tssurya: ^ | 17:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/os-vif master: Add release note link in README https://review.openstack.org/578446 | 18:31 |
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| mriedem | mordred: melwitt: dansmith: i've gone over the 'handling a down cell' spec again, comments inline but i think it's mostly good, just asking for more detail in a few spots - also wondering about handling queued_for_delete instances when listing/showing and when the cell comes back up for those | 18:36 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557369/ | 18:36 |
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| mriedem | tl;dr i think for queued_for_delete instances we want to list/show those as UNKNOWN, | 18:38 |
| mriedem | and then once the cell is back up, the status on those goes back to whatever it's reported in the cell db, could be ACTIVE, SHUTDOWN, etc | 18:39 |
| mriedem | oh which reminds me, when do we clear the queued_for_delete flag once it's set.... | 18:39 |
| mriedem | uh, i think we might just not want to do queued_for_delete at all, | 18:42 |
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| mriedem | and 500 or 503 if you try to delete an instance in a down cell, like any other action on a server that's in a down cell like PUT /servers/{id} | 18:42 |
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| mriedem | random aside - can we delete this compat code from RT now? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/c8b93fa2493dce82ef4c0b1e7a503ba9b81c2e86/nova/compute/resource_tracker.py#L1206 | 18:49 |
| mriedem | if you're in rocky, you shouldn't have ocata computes | 18:49 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: well, blocking a delete is new and undesirable behavior that we haven't had before. that's my first thought | 18:49 |
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| mriedem | it's not new if your database is down | 18:50 |
| mriedem | which is the case here | 18:50 |
| mriedem | and it's not like once the cell computes come back up they can up-call to the instance mappings table to see, oh while i was dead the user wanted to delete this instance | 18:51 |
| melwitt | so the pre cells v2 behavior when nova-api is up but the database is down is what, a 500? | 18:51 |
| mriedem | melwitt: i'm sure | 18:51 |
| mriedem | queued_for_delete means, to me anyway, that we have some kind of periodic in the control plane services that is trying to hit the cells for instance mappings that are queued for delete and once it reaches a cell that's back up, it does the actual delete | 18:52 |
| mriedem | that's not being proposed | 18:52 |
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| mriedem | sort of like how the _reclaim_queued_deletes periodic works in the nova-compute service for SOFT_DELETED instances | 18:53 |
| melwitt | yeah, I get where you're coming from on that. and I'm trying to remember why then we wanted queued_for_delete in the first place. the ability to list/show "deleted" instance shells? since 'novs list --deleted' is a thing you can do | 18:53 |
| melwitt | *nova list --deleted | 18:54 |
| mriedem | maybe, but the spec calls it out as being needed for quota calculation | 18:54 |
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| melwitt | okay, I don't think it was supposed to, that is, we had thought we could piggyback the quota stuff on that column. the column itself had other purpose prior to that | 18:54 |
| mriedem | well i guess it's not explicitly linking that in, but it says it's needed for nova list, nova show and nova boot | 18:55 |
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| mriedem | "``nova boot`` should not succeed if that project has any living VMs in the | 18:55 |
| mriedem | down cell until an all-cell-iteration independent solution for quota | 18:55 |
| mriedem | calculation is implemented through `quotas using placement`_." | 18:55 |
| melwitt | yeah. my guess is that it's for the case where an instance was deleted in the past from some cell, then that cell goes down, then someone does 'nova list --deleted', we'd have no way of knowing deleted or not without access to the cell database | 18:55 |
| mriedem | *living* VMs means, i assume, that queued_for_delete would be considered there during the quota calculation | 18:56 |
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| melwitt | because if an instance was deleted from a cell in the past, if the cell goes down, without queued_for_delete the instance would reappear in the nova list | 18:57 |
| melwitt | if we're going off instance mappings and nothing else | 18:57 |
| mriedem | so by that logic, we'd always need to set InstanceMapping.queued_for_delete=True when deleting an instance even if the cell is up and we actually do delete the instance from the cell | 18:58 |
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| melwitt | yeah, I thought that was how it's supposed to work. mark queued_for_delete=True when a delete request comes in, and that just means "the user intended to delete this" and does not indicate success or not | 18:59 |
| mriedem | ok, and we never set it back to queued_for_delete=False? | 19:02 |
| mriedem | that's what is bothering me | 19:02 |
| melwitt | and that "queued" was a misnomer in that there's no queuing system at the API level for deletes. maybe better named "delete_requested" or something. guess we should double check with tssurya and dansmith. | 19:02 |
| melwitt | I don't think so, no | 19:02 |
| mriedem | we've said in the spec that we're just not going to include instances from down cells if there are filter parameters, | 19:03 |
| mriedem | we could just consider 'nova list --deleted' as a filter parameter that we're not going to include results from down cells | 19:03 |
| mriedem | b/c we don'tknow | 19:03 |
| melwitt | yeah, that's true. but as we talk I'm realizing I think the case we are trying to avoid is, deleted instance reappearing in a plain 'nova list' | 19:04 |
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| melwitt | or wait, | 19:05 |
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| melwitt | you're saying omit that one because it's in a down cell | 19:05 |
| melwitt | yeah, I dunno. | 19:05 |
| melwitt | the original thinking was show instance "shells" for instances in down cells | 19:05 |
| mriedem | yes which we still plan on doing | 19:06 |
| melwitt | we need to know when not to show a shell if it's deleted or was intended to be deleted | 19:06 |
| melwitt | that's where queued_for_delete comes in, I think | 19:06 |
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| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557369/5/specs/rocky/approved/handling-down-cell.rst@103 | 19:08 |
| mriedem | "But then it's weird if I issue DELETE /servers/{id}, get a 202, and then my server status is always UNKNOWN and eventually goes to ACTIVE once the cell is back up - we aren't really doing any queuing in that case." | 19:08 |
| mriedem | so maybe we need to: | 19:09 |
| mriedem | actually nvm | 19:09 |
| mriedem | was going to say, always set queued_for_delete on any delete request, but if the cell is down and we don't delete the instance, the api is going to start hiding it | 19:10 |
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| mriedem | and then it's going to show up again once the cell is back | 19:10 |
| mriedem | i want to say: | 19:10 |
| mriedem | 1. delete fails if the cell is down as it would today, don't touch queued_for_delete | 19:10 |
| melwitt | yeah, I thought that's what the deal was going to be though. queued_for_delete was supposed to be a minimal effort to show something correct when cells are down, AFAIK | 19:11 |
| mriedem | 2. if we actually get the instance and queue a delete of the instance and the cell is up, flip queued_for_delete=True | 19:11 |
| melwitt | and to not have deleted instances reappear in nova list once a cell goes down | 19:11 |
| mriedem | i think you can only do that if you actually issued an actual working delete request | 19:12 |
| mriedem | either local in the api or cast to the compute | 19:12 |
| mriedem | but the cell is up | 19:12 |
| mriedem | otherwise we're lying if we say it's queued for delete while the cell is down and never actually delete it once the cell comes back up | 19:12 |
| mriedem | i think DELETE /servers/{id} has to 500 if the cell is down | 19:13 |
| melwitt | okay, yeah I agree with that. so you're just saying wait to set queued_for_delete until a delete is actually initiated with an up cell | 19:13 |
| mriedem | yeah i think so | 19:13 |
| melwitt | that's fair enough | 19:13 |
| mriedem | because in that case we should have actually deleted the instance in the cell | 19:13 |
| melwitt | right | 19:13 |
| mriedem | and then queued_for_delete is only read while listing/showing over down cells | 19:14 |
| mriedem | and never goes from True back to False | 19:14 |
| melwitt | ++ | 19:14 |
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| melwitt | I'm gonna try to do a check with devstack to verify what is returned for a delete when the database is down | 19:17 |
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| mriedem | i need a palate cleanser | 19:33 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: before I go write examples in the docs that don't satisfy what you're looking for, can you review my response here first? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578163/2/doc/source/user/cells.rst | 19:40 |
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| mriedem | never satisfied | 19:44 |
| mriedem | replied | 19:44 |
| mriedem | i've heard that snickers really satisfies | 19:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Allow templated cell_mapping URLs https://review.openstack.org/578163 | 19:54 |
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| SpamapS | mriedem: we are very far from needing multi-cell yet. Our only Pike clouds are greenfield new deployments. We'll move our bigger clouds last, and will likely be on Rocky+ by then. | 20:02 |
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| mriedem | ok | 20:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Use consumer generation in _heal_allocations_for_instance https://review.openstack.org/577905 | 20:06 |
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| Nova | Hi Eric, please ping me when you can | 21:21 |
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| Sundar | efried: Please ping me when you have a moment | 21:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Make nova-lvm run in check on libvirt changes and compute API tests https://review.openstack.org/569149 | 21:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Usages per project and user (v1.8, v1.9) https://review.openstack.org/514646 | 21:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: CLI allocation candidates (v1.10) https://review.openstack.org/514647 | 21:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: New dict format of allocations (v1.11, v1.12) https://review.openstack.org/542819 | 21:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Transactionally update allocations (v1.13) https://review.openstack.org/546674 | 21:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Add nested resource providers (v1.14) https://review.openstack.org/546675 | 21:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Limit allocation candidates (v1.15, v1.16) https://review.openstack.org/548043 | 21:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Allocation candidates parameter: required (v1.17) https://review.openstack.org/548326 | 21:31 |
| efried | Sundar: Hello | 21:31 |
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| Sundar | efried: Can you please try out https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ICdNeG3bbX4l-Qkj1Q8IzF8QmLsn4U7K ? | 21:32 |
| Sundar | This patch adds the sequence diag | 21:32 |
| efried | Sundar: Okay. We're still busted on the doc build in general, but I can try to build it locally. At a glance, I believe you might need semicolons at the end of each line. | 21:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: libvirt: remove old rbd snapshot removal error handling https://review.openstack.org/566369 | 21:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (1) https://review.openstack.org/572018 | 21:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (2) https://review.openstack.org/573481 | 21:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (3) https://review.openstack.org/574104 | 21:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (4) https://review.openstack.org/574106 | 21:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (5) https://review.openstack.org/574110 | 21:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Handle network-changed event for a specific port https://review.openstack.org/465787 | 22:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Refactor _build_device_metadata https://review.openstack.org/533804 | 22:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Consider hostdev devices when building metadata https://review.openstack.org/533805 | 22:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Add information of deprecation nova-network in system-admin.rst https://review.openstack.org/576698 | 22:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: ironic: bugfix: ensure a host is set for volume connectors https://review.openstack.org/571982 | 22:06 |
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| efried | Sundar: Okay, I worked with infra a bit and should have the doc build working properly now. I also incorporated your seqdiag (which builds fine, btw) and reproposed your patch. | 22:26 |
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| Sundar | efried: Thanks a lot! I didn't mean to impose that on you. Had it worked on your local environment, I would have pushed it myself. | 22:30 |
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| Sundar | s/on your/in your/ | 22:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (6) https://review.openstack.org/574113 | 22:30 |
| efried | Sundar: No, I wanted to get the specs rendering and built properly by zuul. I had a POC patch on there anyway, so this just allowed me to replace it with the real thing. | 22:31 |
| efried | Sundar: Do you have the background on why we're not putting specs into cyborg-specs yet? | 22:31 |
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| Sundar | efried: In the Cyborg meetings, it was discussed that this is the direction to go but we can do it in the next release, or after the specs are merged | 22:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Usages per project and user (v1.8, v1.9) https://review.openstack.org/514646 | 23:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: CLI allocation candidates (v1.10) https://review.openstack.org/514647 | 23:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: New dict format of allocations (v1.11, v1.12) https://review.openstack.org/542819 | 23:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Transactionally update allocations (v1.13) https://review.openstack.org/546674 | 23:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Add nested resource providers (v1.14) https://review.openstack.org/546675 | 23:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Limit allocation candidates (v1.15, v1.16) https://review.openstack.org/548043 | 23:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Allocation candidates parameter: required (v1.17) https://review.openstack.org/548326 | 23:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (7) https://review.openstack.org/574974 | 23:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Usages per project and user (v1.8, v1.9) https://review.openstack.org/514646 | 23:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: CLI allocation candidates (v1.10) https://review.openstack.org/514647 | 23:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: New dict format of allocations (v1.11, v1.12) https://review.openstack.org/542819 | 23:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Transactionally update allocations (v1.13) https://review.openstack.org/546674 | 23:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Add nested resource providers (v1.14) https://review.openstack.org/546675 | 23:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Limit allocation candidates (v1.15, v1.16) https://review.openstack.org/548043 | 23:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Allocation candidates parameter: required (v1.17) https://review.openstack.org/548326 | 23:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (8) https://review.openstack.org/575311 | 23:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (9) https://review.openstack.org/575581 | 23:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (10) https://review.openstack.org/576017 | 23:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (11) https://review.openstack.org/576018 | 23:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (12) https://review.openstack.org/576019 | 23:21 |
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| efried | Do virt drivers call into os-vif or is all of that interaction done outside of virt? | 23:27 |
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| melwitt | efried: happens in the driver, example https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/vif.py | 23:36 |
| efried | melwitt: Thank you | 23:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (13) https://review.openstack.org/576020 | 23:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (14) https://review.openstack.org/576027 | 23:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (15) https://review.openstack.org/576031 | 23:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (16) https://review.openstack.org/576299 | 23:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (17) https://review.openstack.org/576344 | 23:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (18) https://review.openstack.org/576673 | 23:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (19) https://review.openstack.org/576676 | 23:53 |
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