Wednesday, 2018-08-01

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Delete checking a bool opt of None condition  https://review.openstack.org/39070501:22
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: libvirt: Remove usage of migrateToURI{2} APIs  https://review.openstack.org/56725801:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Delete orphan compute nodes before updating resources  https://review.openstack.org/57992201:41
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova stable/queens: Fix server_group_members quota check  https://review.openstack.org/58184601:42
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openstackgerritYikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Fix comments in _anchors_for_sharing_providers and related test  https://review.openstack.org/58767904:04
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openstackgerritJake Yip proposed openstack/nova master: Add --before to nova-manage db archive_deleted_rows  https://review.openstack.org/55675104:49
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Extract _update_to_placement method in resource tracker  https://review.openstack.org/58717105:02
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gmannalex_xu: hi05:12
alex_xugmann: hi05:15
gmannalex_xu: today i do not have much for API office hour. if you have anything we can have otherwise i would like to skip today05:16
alex_xugmann: nothing special from me05:16
gmannalex_xu: ok, let we will cancel and have next week05:17
alex_xugmann: for the keypair quota usage, the conclude is just updating the doc I guess?05:17
gmannalex_xu: i have not checked the detail yet but i will do check tomorrow05:18
alex_xugmann: ok, thanks05:18
gmannalex_xu: thanks05:18
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openstackgerritJake Yip proposed openstack/nova master: Add --before to nova-manage db archive_deleted_rows  https://review.openstack.org/55675106:22
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openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Ensure the order of AllocationRequestResources  https://review.openstack.org/58770007:08
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: Expand aggregate_metadata table index to cover 'value' as well  https://review.openstack.org/58770407:22
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Grimnir15I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/08:32
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openstackgerritYikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Fix comments in _anchors_for_sharing_providers and related test  https://review.openstack.org/58767908:35
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yikuntetsuro ^ updated, :)08:37
tetsuroyikun: Looks good to me. Thanks!08:39
yikunthanks~08:39
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: Expand aggregate_metadata table index to cover 'value' as well  https://review.openstack.org/58770408:41
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openstackgerritPranab proposed openstack/os-vif master: Support for OVS DB TCP socket communication.  https://review.openstack.org/58737809:15
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: compute node local_gb_used include swap disks  https://review.openstack.org/58592809:30
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Define common variables for irrelevant-files  https://review.openstack.org/57888209:33
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Change deprecated policies to policy  https://review.openstack.org/58343409:53
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kosamaraHi bauzas, I was checking your spec numa-topology-with-rps. What's the status on this, are you actively reworking it?09:59
bauzaskosamara: yup, I'm planning to rework on it at the end of August09:59
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bauzasI'll be on PTO for 3 weeks starting next Wed10:00
bauzasgibi: stephenfin: cdent: ^10:00
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kosamarabauzas: you mention RPs for PCI devices (L139 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552924/9/specs/rocky/approved/numa-topology-with-rps.rst ). This is what I'm interested in. Nova currently doesn't create them, so I think it makes sense to do so either as part of this or as a new spec (maybe better, since your spec is already complex?)10:05
gibibauzas: have a nice time off!10:05
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bauzaskosamara: the spec is about discussing the topology, not really how to provide those devices10:09
bauzaskosamara: so, yeah maybe a new spec10:10
bauzaskosamara: at least about the upgrade between the existing and what you want10:10
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gibibauzas: FYI, we talked about the PCI device handling with kosamara in openstack-neutron as well http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-neutron/%23openstack-neutron.2018-08-01.log.html#t2018-08-01T08:23:3310:12
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bauzasgibi: ack10:14
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bauzasoh, fun, GPUs look like a good driver for PCI devices :p10:16
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gibibauzas: fun indeed10:17
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bauzasmdbooth: others, I'm torn with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478330/10:22
lyarwoodoh it's that time in the cycle again? :)10:23
lyarwoodI'm sure this has been nack'd in the past10:24
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bauzasnvm, found the spec10:25
bauzashttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/volume-backed-server-rebuild10:25
bauzasI'll accordingly -2 it10:25
bauzasand refer to this series10:26
lyarwoodhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/532407/ yeah10:26
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openstackgerritZengzhi Wang proposed openstack/nova master: Fix using last request-id for all log when multiple request calls.  https://review.openstack.org/58775410:34
mdboothbauzas: On a call. Still want me to look?10:35
bauzasmdbooth: nope, I gently -2'd the change :)10:35
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mdbooth'gently' ;)10:35
bauzasI'm French but I can be a gentleman10:36
mdboothbauzas: You used the fluffy ban hammer10:36
bauzasmdbooth: there is one spec and already an open series10:36
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bauzasI just asked the proposer to collaborate10:36
bauzas-2 just means "please stop what you're doing and discuss"10:37
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bauzasit's not a "I don't like you, and for god's sake, you'll suffer pain'10:37
mdboothbauzas: Although I recall the other discussion. I'm not in favour of the approach in this patch, tbh.10:37
mdboothTo me, rebuild on BFV means you keep the original volume and re-image it.10:38
sean-k-mooneymdbooth: is that not want was originally propsoed?10:39
mdboothsean-k-mooney: I think that was in the other proposal I recall.10:39
mdboothsean-k-mooney: My memory is notoriously shonky, though.10:39
sean-k-mooneysorry im thinking of something else i was vagly rembering the rescure rescure bfv changes and mixing it up with rebuild10:41
bauzasanyway, this is a behavioural change proposal, hence a spec10:41
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bauzasfor people wanting to get the last proposal, the spec is thrre10:41
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openstackgerritPranab proposed openstack/os-vif master: Support for OVS DB TCP socket communication.  https://review.openstack.org/58737810:44
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openstackgerritRadoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova master: Reload oslo_context after calling monkey_patch()  https://review.openstack.org/58777210:58
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kosamarabauzas: thanks! As I said in openstack-neutron, I'm examining how to create RPs for GPUs from the pci devices that nova tracks, in order to move the scheduling of PCI passthrough to placement. This should in the future allow quotas on them too, as resource classes.11:30
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kosamaraBtw, could someone please take another look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/579897 ?11:32
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sean-k-mooneykosamara: i belive that was planned to be started next cycle. not jsut for gpus but for pci devices in general11:34
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sean-k-mooneykosamara: can you explain what the vendorid in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/579897/2/nova/virt/libvirt/config.py11:38
kosamarasean-k-mooney: makes sense not to do it just for GPUs. I don't know about the plans though. I was researching for any relevant specs and found the numa-rps and the net-bandwidth-rps. Can you point me to anything else?11:39
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kosamarasean-k-mooney: the vendorid can apparently be a random alphanumeric. I've tried it with the one proposed. My reference: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PCI_passthrough_via_OVMF#Troubleshooting11:41
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sean-k-mooneykosamara: the numa aware resouce providers was a prequisit for moving pci tracking to placement11:47
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kosamarasean-k-mooney: I'm not sure of that. PCI passthrough now doesn't require information about the NUMA topology. The PCI RPs could initially be children of the compute node RP, and then NUMA topology information can be added as extra layer in between, no?11:50
sean-k-mooneykosamara: that would require the reshpaer work to be completed. but no today in openstack we track numa affinity of all pcidevces11:51
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kosamarasean-k-mooney: what's reshpaer ?11:52
sean-k-mooneykosamara: what im guessing confused about with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/579897/2/nova/virt/libvirt/config.py is why you are adding a vendior id element to the hyperv features elememnt i nthe first place if you are trying to hide the fact you are being virutalised.11:52
sean-k-mooneykosamara: https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/rocky/approved/reshape-provider-tree.html11:53
sean-k-mooneykosamara: its the ablitiy to reshap an exisiting nested resouce provider tree and move resouce providers form the root node to child nodes11:54
kosamarasean-k-mooney: Maybe I should word this more precisely. We are trying to block detection of hyperv specifically. Making the vendorid anything other than the genuine one should work.11:54
sean-k-mooneykosamara: are you using libvirt to manage hyperv nodes?11:55
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sean-k-mooneykosamara: the code you are modifying is changing the hyperv element in https://libvirt.org/formatdomain.html#elementsFeatures11:57
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lpetrutkosamara: I guess you're overriding the signature returned through cpuid 0x4000000012:06
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lpetrutsean-k-mooney: qemu can mimic some of the hyper-v enlightments12:06
sean-k-mooneylpetrut: yep but im wondering if we shoudl entirely remove the hyperv element so that if nvidia make there check smarter in the future we dont need to change the code again12:07
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lpetrutbut then I guess you'd lose all those hyper-v enlighments, which would probably affect Windows guests performance. I think the idea is to keep those, hiding the signature only. AFAIK, those guest features don't rely on the cpuid signature12:09
kosamarasean-k-mooney: This is for kvm nodes. The <hyperv> element appears also on kvm nodes, when creating VMs from images with os_type='windows'12:10
sean-k-mooneykosamara: yes i am aware. but im wondering if setting the vendor id is sufficent to hide everythin from the windows guest kernel.12:11
sean-k-mooneyor at least the driver layer12:11
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kosamarasean-k-mooney: I've tested inside the guest that I could install the nvidia drivers and run applications on the GPU.12:12
sean-k-mooneylpetrut: i agree it would be nice to keep some of the performance aspects enabled if they are not observable within the guest.12:12
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sean-k-mooneykosamara: yes but is that because nvidia are just not current checking for other cpu flags that the enablments are  setting or are you shure the vendor_id is enought to ensure we dont have to change this code again in the future12:13
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kosamarasean-k-mooney: unfortunately, I believe it's the 1st.12:14
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sean-k-mooneykosamara: in that case i would like at least a note to that effect in the code so that if we do have to revisit we understand exactly why the current workaround is not sufficent12:15
kosamaraThe more explicit solution would be to remove the hyperv element as you say, but I've read that indeed this would reduce guest performance, like lpetrut says.12:16
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sean-k-mooneykosamara: well the kvm hidden flag also reduces the guest performance12:16
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sean-k-mooneyit force the linux kernel to assume its running on phyical hardware so it cannont performa any optimisation that are posible when it knows its running on kvm12:18
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kosamarasean-k-mooney: since right now we don't need to cause another perf degradation though, I believe it's better to only do that if need be. I'll write a note on the code, thanks!12:19
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Add placement.concurrent_udpate to generation pre-checks  https://review.openstack.org/58177112:19
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: [placement] Use oslotest CaptureOutput fixture  https://review.openstack.org/58712913:31
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: [placement] Use a non-nova log capture fixture  https://review.openstack.org/58713013:32
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: [placement] Use a simplified WarningsFixture  https://review.openstack.org/58713113:32
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Fix comments in _anchors_for_sharing_providers and related test  https://review.openstack.org/58767913:45
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Convert 'placement_api_docs' into a Sphinx extension  https://review.openstack.org/57882613:45
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add recreate test for RT.stats bug 1784705  https://review.openstack.org/58761413:48
openstackbug 1784705 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "ResourceTracker.stats can leak across multiple ironic nodes" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1784705 - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem)13:48
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Make ResourceTracker.stats node-specific  https://review.openstack.org/58763613:48
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dansmithmriedem: don't you watch the stats leak bug tagged for rc1?13:59
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mriedemdansmith: it's not new, so not really an rc thing13:59
mriedemregressed in ocata13:59
efriedmode #openstack-nova13:59
dansmithbut fairly critical no?13:59
mriedemi would think so....13:59
dansmithso I dunno, seems important enough to go into rc1 to me14:00
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mriedemtssurya: do you know if cern is using the ComputeCapabilitiesFilter for baremetal scheduling where the baremetal flavors are have capabilities extra specs to link them to certain bm nodes?14:00
mriedemdansmith: i wouldn't argue against getting it fixed asap of course :)14:00
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mriedemoath isn't using the filter and mgagne hasn't gotten to ocata yet to hit the regression14:00
dansmithI was a little concerned before I saw the patch, mucking with RT and all, but I think it's probably pretty safe and my mind is boggling over this not having caught fire already14:01
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mriedemme too14:02
mriedembut yeah this is essentially the same pattern used to change RT.compute_node (singular) into RT.compute_nodes14:03
mriedemwe just do a shit job of testing anything to do with RT.stats14:03
mriedemlike,14:03
mriedemnova/tests/unit/compute/resource_tracker.py doesn't have *any* stats-specific assertions in it i don't think14:03
dansmithdoesn't surprise me14:04
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Make ResourceTracker.stats node-specific  https://review.openstack.org/58763614:04
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mriedemgibi: comments addressed, thanks ^14:06
mriedemoh you beat me14:06
gibimriedem: thanks. I'm +@14:06
gibi+214:06
dansmithmriedem: so you aren't against me +Wing right?14:07
mriedemdansmith: nope14:07
mriedemi'm pro +W14:07
dansmithhmm, I just thought of one thing, let me check14:09
bauzashumpf14:09
bauzaswe merged this code a while now, but we just have this bug now14:09
bauzas:/14:09
bauzasocata my love14:09
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sean-k-mooneybauzas: which bug?14:11
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sean-k-mooneybauzas: mriedem patch?14:12
bauzasyup14:12
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bauzasI mean, lemme be clear, I understand why we have it now14:12
bauzasit's just that I'm a sad panda14:12
sean-k-mooneybauzas: the no tests.14:12
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-novaclient master: Use jsonutils of oslo.serialization  https://review.openstack.org/58727814:13
sean-k-mooneyi have have been trying to figure out how to run coverage test of nova on and off but never actully done it beacues im not sure i want to know14:13
sean-k-mooneythat said i would not mind spending a little tiem working on code coverage to learn some of the code base i dont normally touch14:14
mriedemsean-k-mooney: https://review.openstack.org/58763614:15
mriedemtox -e cover only runs unit tests, so misses all functional test coverage14:15
sean-k-mooneymriedem: yes i started to review it :)14:16
mriedembut a coverage report doesn't give you any idea of end to end scenario coverage14:16
sean-k-mooneymriedem: ya14:16
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sean-k-mooneythey also need python 3... time to go install that on centos again.14:19
efriedmelwitt, dansmith, mriedem: Thoughts on requesting +r for this channel?14:19
sean-k-mooneyefried: +r?14:19
dansmithno way14:19
efriedsean-k-mooney: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-August/132692.html14:20
dansmithsean-k-mooney: requires registered nicks to join14:20
sean-k-mooneydansmith: ah ok to stop spam14:20
efriedyuh14:20
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dansmithfreenode is catching them very quickly so one spam message every now and again is pretty minor, and it's just a recent wave14:21
sean-k-mooneywe are getting some but not a lot14:21
dansmithyeah, +r would be a major overreaction IMHO14:21
sean-k-mooney+r might also break some irc relays/bouncers14:22
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dansmithand casual users coming here to debug one thing14:22
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dansmithmy bouncer gets un-authed often enough during netsplits, that I'm sure it would affect people with bouncers14:22
efriedokay, you're clearly opposed, I'll drop it for now.14:23
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pooja_jadhavefried: Hi14:24
efriedpooja_jadhav: Howdy.14:25
pooja_jadhavefried: I need ur help  in live migrate API testing. I am stuck at one point.14:25
dansmithmriedem: I'll start up a patch for said node-removal cleanup14:26
mriedemdansmith: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/178487414:26
openstackLaunchpad bug 1784874 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "ResourceTracker doesn't clean up compute_nodes or stats entries" [Low,Triaged]14:26
dansmithmriedem: thanks14:26
efriedpooja_jadhav: I'm definitely not an expert in that realm.  I'll do what I can - which will probably mean shunting you to mriedem and dansmith :)14:26
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pooja_jadhavefried: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/62555/live-migrations-over-ssh-fail-from-nova-but-work-from-virsh/ (same happing with me right now) using virsh migrate i am able to migrate instance but using nova migrate API i can not.14:27
tssuryamriedem: we don't14:28
sean-k-mooneypooja_jadhav: have you exchaged passwordless ssh keys between all node for the use used in the migration14:28
sean-k-mooneypooja_jadhav: e.g. nova for qemu+ssh://nova@compute-1/system14:28
pooja_jadhavsean-k-mooney: yes, i have added password less ssh keys in authorize_keys file14:29
tssuryawe disabled that filter recently14:29
dansmithtssurya: when you moved to ocata?14:29
dansmithto/past14:29
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sean-k-mooneypooja_jadhav: and you can ssh fine with the nova users key betewen compute-1 and coumpute-214:30
pooja_jadhavsean-k-mooney: not checked with nova users14:30
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pooja_jadhavi have checked by u qemu+ssh://nsername@hostname/system14:31
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sean-k-mooneypooja_jadhav: if the host key of every node is not in the known hosts for the relevent user then the propm to add the key will break the live migration14:32
openstackgerritVishakha Agarwal proposed openstack/nova master: 'Updated_at' is NULL when show aggregate info  https://review.openstack.org/58027114:32
sean-k-mooneypooja_jadhav: unless you turn of the host key checking that is.14:33
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pooja_jadhavsean-k-mooney: Can u tell me command how to check ssh by nova user from node 1 to node 2.14:34
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: [placement] Use own set_middleware_defaults  https://review.openstack.org/58718314:36
sean-k-mooney"sudo su -l nova" then "ssh nova@node-1" if that does not work you need to use ssh-copy-id to copy your key to node-114:36
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sean-k-mooneypooja_jadhav: ^ then just repeat for each node14:36
sean-k-mooneypooja_jadhav: non node-1 you shoudl check by sshing to node-2 obvioulsy but in the general case you should ssh to all other node nodes from all nodes in your cloud14:38
pooja_jadhavsean-k-mooney: I have already copied passwordless ssh keys still after hitting command "ssh nova@openstack02-VirtualBox" its asking me for password.. How come? I am really not understanding.14:38
sean-k-mooneypooja_jadhav: did you copy your passwordless ssh key or nova's14:39
pooja_jadhavsean-k-mooney: mine ssh key.. how to generate nova's ssh keys? I haven't done it before :(14:40
sean-k-mooneyyou need to copy the key of whatever user nova-compute/libvirt are running as.14:41
sean-k-mooneyssk-keygen14:41
sean-k-mooneyas the nova user14:41
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Ensure the order of AllocationRequestResources  https://review.openstack.org/58770014:43
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Fix the incorrect description and sample  https://review.openstack.org/52818014:43
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sean-k-mooneypooja_jadhav: by the way if you get that to work and you hit this error http://paste.openstack.org/show/726939/ for me it was caused because of iptables so i just flushed them with "sudo iptables -F" "sudo iptables -X". dont do that in production obviously but it works for devstack14:43
pooja_jadhavsean-k-mooney: i have used this command to generate ssh keys : 3)ssh-keygen -t rsa -C "pooja.jadhav@nttdata.com"14:44
pooja_jadhav 4)cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub14:44
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openstackgerritVishakha Agarwal proposed openstack/nova master: 'Updated_at' is NULL when show aggregate info  https://review.openstack.org/58027114:45
sean-k-mooneypooja_jadhav: that should work but the defaults will also work if you just hit enter 3-4 times when your the nova user14:45
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tssuryadansmith: after we moved to queens14:54
dansmithokay14:54
tssuryawe only use custom resource_classes14:54
tssuryafor capabilities as well14:55
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mriedembauzas: replied to you in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/584962/15:05
lyarwoodmriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1784353 - nothing urgent, but if you have time this week would you mind taking a look at this BFV reschedule bug?15:05
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bauzasmriedem: well, I'm not really torn for your change15:06
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mriedembauzas: you don't see the need for that cache?15:07
bauzasmriedem: I mean, are we like calling a RPC API when we look at the bdms ?15:07
mriedemdude15:07
mriedemyes15:07
mriedemwe're getting all bdms for each instance to determine if it's volume-backed15:07
mriedemthat's a db query roundtrip through conductor15:07
bauzasobjects.BlockDeviceMappingList.get_by_instance_uuid() ?15:08
mriedemand the bfv-ness of an instance isn't going to change15:08
bauzasah okay15:08
mriedemyes https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/utils.py#L21515:08
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bauzasokay +2 then15:10
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mriedemthanks15:11
mriedemlyarwood: sure15:11
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lyarwoodmriedem: cheers, the actual bugfix is WIP as I'm not sure where the fix should land, any advice would be appreciated.15:13
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gnuoyHi, I'm trying to understand this sentence from the cells layout doc: "The Neutron metadata API proxy should be global across all cells, and thus be configured as an API-level service with access to the [api_database]/connection information."15:27
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openstackgerritKonstantinos Samaras-Tsakiris proposed openstack/nova master: Hide hypervisor id on windows guests  https://review.openstack.org/57989715:28
gnuoyIs it honestly saying that the neutron metadata proxy needs access to the nova api db ?15:28
gnuoyhttps://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/cellsv2-layout.html#neutron-metadata-api-proxy15:28
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Improve NeutronFixture and remove unncessary stubbing  https://review.openstack.org/58741215:29
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kosamarasean-k-mooney: updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57989715:31
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openstackgerritChen proposed openstack/nova master: Make nova-manage db archive_delete_rows take --all-cells  https://review.openstack.org/58785815:42
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sean-k-mooneykosamara: +1 from me. its annoying that that is needed but ya the only other thing i can think of is to remove the os_type=windows from the glance image15:57
sean-k-mooneydansmith: see the message form openstackgerrit above15:58
dansmithsean-k-mooney: yeah I see :)15:58
sean-k-mooneydansmith: i guess infra turned it on across the board do we want to keep it on?15:58
dansmithnot sure we have a choice15:59
kosamarasean-k-mooney: thanks15:59
dansmithI was just discussing with them15:59
dansmithapparently the sniper doesn't work as well in all channels, for whatever reason,15:59
dansmithbut still,15:59
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dansmithlike email, managing spam is just one of those things.. closing the door on an open community is a bad solution, IMHO, but whatever15:59
sean-k-mooneyok well hopefully this is temporay16:00
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dansmithuntil they just automate the registration process? yeah:)16:00
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sean-k-mooneyya... then we will learn how recapha's work over irc...16:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Add shelve/unshelve wrinkle to volume-backed disk func test  https://review.openstack.org/58493116:05
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janguttersean-k-mooney: you guys are OK, but I continually fail my Turing test.16:13
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stephenfinI always knew there was something fishy about jungleboyj16:14
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stephenfin(RE: "jungleboyj has quit (Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.)))")16:15
tssuryadansmith: are we having a cells meeting today?16:15
dansmithtssurya: I don't have anything to discuss and am also focused on other things, you?16:16
dansmithmriedem_afk: melwitt ^16:16
tssuryaI don't have anything either16:16
melwitt+1 to skip16:16
tbachman /WHOIS Turing^H^H^H^H16:16
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dansmithgawd, the testing of resource tracker... ugh16:29
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melwittthe ol RT16:32
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mriedem_afkdansmith: i had some things posted on the agenda16:38
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dansmithmriedem: who looks at that?16:38
mriedemhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaCellsv2#Agenda16:38
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mriedemi'll just dump them here16:38
mriedemcouple of new bugs16:38
mriedemhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/178407416:38
openstackLaunchpad bug 1784074 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Instances end up with no cell assigned in instance_mappings" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem)16:38
melwittgnuoy: yes, it does need access to the api database in order to 'get_metadata_by_instance_id' it looks at the api database to determine what cell the instance is in16:39
mriedemi started https://review.openstack.org/#/c/586713/ for that but need to do more probably, like collapse those 2 for loops as we said a year ago16:39
dansmithmriedem: yeah, I'm not really sure where we are on that.. there are several patches up16:39
mriedemalso, mnaser has a script in that bug for healing some of these types of faliures16:39
mriedemhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/178409316:39
openstackLaunchpad bug 1784093 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Build requests can be orphaned without instance mappings" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Mohammed Naser (mnaser)16:39
mriedem^ is about creating build requests, instance mappings and request specs in a single transaction16:39
mriedemand then i was looking for a 2nd +2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/581910/ which is just documenting another up-call caveat16:40
dansmithyeah, I think we also probably want a single transaction for converting a BR to a mapped mapping16:40
mriedemi.e. create the instance in the cell + update the mapping?16:41
mriedemhow would that work across 2 dbs?16:41
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melwittand destroying BR16:41
mnasermy single transaction change, im not sure if it actually does it in a single transaction.. nor how to test it16:41
melwittmriedem: should be all api db, no? build request and instance mapping16:41
mnaseri brought the requestspec, buildrequest and mapping to be a single transaction so that was a single db16:41
dansmithmriedem: I mean the destroying the BR and setting cell_id on the instance mapping in one transaction16:42
dansmithmelwitt: right16:42
mnaseri assume mriedem is concerned about updating instance mapping and creating instance in a single transaction16:43
mnasercause you can create but fail updating instance mapping16:43
mnaserand end up with a listable but not retrievable instance16:43
mriedemthat's what https://review.openstack.org/#/c/586713/ is for16:43
mriedemwe update the mapping immediately after creating the instance,16:44
mriedembut i'm not sure what should happen if we fail to update the mapping16:44
dansmithdestroy the instance16:44
dansmithleave the BR in place16:44
mriedemthat's what it's doing right now16:44
mriedemmy patch16:44
dansmiththat's what we should do16:44
melwittmnaser: yeah, would have to take a look at what we can do with finding that out. jaypipes do you know how we can print/log whether something is occurring in a single db transaction when we're doing sqlalchemy queries while we're testing something?16:44
mriedembut,16:45
dansmithif we double fail on all DBs then we can't do anything anyway16:45
mriedemif we have an empty mapping and no instance and a build request,16:45
dansmithmelwitt: one writer should mean one transaction AFAIK16:45
mriedemthe build request will always show as status BUILDING or whatever16:45
mnaserthing is stale records in db that don't impact api aren't too much of a problem16:45
mnaserhaving an instance mapping point to a cell where the instance doesnt exist => no confusing instance when listing instances16:46
dansmithmriedem: the other thing we can do, which I'd rather not, but is look up mappings during a list and either filter those instances or fix the mappings on the fly16:46
mriedemi don't think you can delete a scheduling instance though, unless you force delete it?16:46
mriedemdansmith: i thought about fixing on the fly,16:46
dansmithmriedem: I mean NFO the record you just created16:46
mriedemhowever,16:46
mriedemif we create the instance but fail to update the mapping, we won't have created the bdms and tags in the cell db either16:47
melwittdansmith: it should, but IIRC there are ways in which queries might not be a single transaction (from a db standpoint) even if you put them under the same decorator. it would be nice to be able to verify if we could16:47
mriedemso the instance could be mapped, but it would be incomplete16:47
dansmithmelwitt: only if you're doing nested transactions or force commit, AFAIK16:47
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jaypipesmelwitt: you mean can we inject log messages after running various DB statements in the placement service to log whether there were results?16:48
mriedemi don't know what NFO means, urbandictionary suggests Near Fatal Orgasm16:48
jaypipesmelwitt: not quite sure what you're asking, sorry...16:48
dansmithmriedem: sure, but that's going to affect the listable instance anyway16:48
dansmithmriedem: nuke from orbit16:48
melwittjaypipes: I mean is there a way to log/print/see whether a series of queries we made really translated into a single database transaction?16:48
dansmithmriedem: although I like yours better16:48
mriedemprobably gonna need to serialize these conversations for context16:48
melwittjaypipes: in general, this isn't about placement16:48
mnaseras an operator i would rather have an instance_mapping that's invalid pointing to an non-existant instance (but not showing any instances in list) rather than instance showing in list and not retrievable16:49
jaypipesmelwitt: ah, you mean a single COMMIT was issued...16:49
mriedemdansmith: maybe you want to just look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/586713/ and leave whatever thoughts16:49
jaypipesmelwitt: that would prolly be something we could add to oslo.db's transaction context manager. Basically, output a LOG.info("Committing transaction") when the context manager completes without an exception?16:49
mriedemoh you did16:49
mnasermy single transaction change was updated here -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/586742/ .. but no testing etc16:50
gnuoymelwitt, sorry, just so I'm clear,  there needs to be an [api_database] section in the neutron.conf that neutron-metadata-agent is using?16:50
dansmithmnaser: I know, but there are several things we're trying to accomplish with the dance around creating/destroying those records16:50
dansmithmnaser: mostly around trying to preserve api semantics that have existed for a long time16:50
mnaserdansmith: makes sense, i dont have that much context about it then :p16:51
dansmithmnaser: mriedem: maybe we should have a non-text conversation about that whole process to make sure we're still doing what we want16:51
dansmithI'm not likely to be able to focus on it if we do it here, I just have too many parallel threads running16:51
melwittjaypipes: I guess so :) just curious if there's a way to sanity check that in a unit test or func test environment (temporarily), the sql commands that are issued to the database. I had thought that it's not guaranteed that everything you put under one transaction context manager is a single transaction, from a low-level database standpoint. maybe there's no way to check that? anyway, this is all just my curiosity, so sorry for the16:52
melwitt distraction16:52
mnaserdansmith: i agree :)16:53
mriedemyeah, also,16:55
melwittgnuoy: I'm not 100% sure but I think no, the neutron-metadata-agent is a neutron thing and the nova part is a metadata proxy that sends to the agent16:55
mriedemi'd kind of like to squash these 2 for loops in schedule_and_build_instance for sanity before making changes in here, but not sure how backportable that all is, since we likely need at least one fix going back to pike16:55
mriedemmnaser: are you still on pike?16:56
dansmithmelwitt: FYI I'm not going to be around for the nova meeting tomorrow. I'm sure I will be sorely missed.16:56
mnasermriedem: no, queens everywhere at this point16:56
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melwittdansmith: yes, we will prepare ourselves emotionally16:56
gnuoymelwitt, yeah I assumed querying the nova api db would be a nova task which is why the guide seems odd when it says that neutron needs it.16:56
melwittgnuoy: well, the guide is saying the neutron metadata API proxy (emphasis on the proxy) needs it. the nova piece that proxies to the neutron agent needs it16:57
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dansmithgnuoy: melwitt: there is no [api_database] in the _neutron_ config16:57
jaypipesmelwitt: no need to apologize! it's an interesting problem.16:58
gnuoyis the guide trying to tell me that nova-api-metadata service needs an [api_database] section?16:58
melwittdansmith: do you know if the metadata service and the neutron metadata API proxy the same service? their code is together in the tree17:01
dansmithmelwitt: they neutron proxy is in the neutron tree no?17:01
melwitt*are the same17:01
dansmithmelwitt: but gnuoy was asking about an api_database section in a neutron.conf file, which wouldn't be the case, unless neutron has a section for that as well17:02
mnaserneutron does not have `api_database` section17:02
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dansmithright17:02
mriedemneutron has a metadata agent that makes requests to the nova metadata api17:02
dansmithright17:02
mriedemhttps://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/cellsv2-layout.html#neutron-metadata-api-proxy17:02
dansmithI assume the confusion is over the configuration of the api_db for the _nova_ metadata side17:02
mriedem"The Neutron metadata API proxy should be global across all cells, and thus be configured as an API-level service with access to the [api_database]/connection information."17:03
dansmithseparate from neutron's proxy of/to that17:03
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melwittso what is the "neutron metadata API proxy" then? it's a nova service isn't it? is it our metadata service?17:03
mriedemmaybe that should say 'nova metadata api' to avoid confusion it's something in neutron17:03
dansmithno17:03
dansmithmriedem: yeah17:03
mnasermelwitt: neutron has a 'software' that runs in the netns for each tenant/etc which listens of 169.254.169.254 and proxies those requests out to nova metadata api17:04
dansmithright, which is the neutron metadata proxy17:04
mnaseri assume thats the neutron metadata api proxy as i understand it17:04
mriedemhttps://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/install/controller-install-ubuntu.html?highlight=metadata%20proxy#configure-the-metadata-agent17:04
melwittmnaser: thanks17:04
mnaserbut yeah, i think that doc should say Nova Metadata API rather than neutron metadata api proxy17:04
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gnuoyI will raise a PR for the docs17:05
gnuoyThanks everyone for the help17:05
melwittgnuoy: thanks. sorry for all that confusion17:05
gnuoynp at all17:05
dansmithmnaser: yeah, and apparently I wrote that17:05
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dansmithjust a mind-o I'm guessing17:05
mnaserwriting long docs can get exhuasting :P17:05
mnaseri'll have to deal with the image backend stuff again soon :(17:06
melwittgodspeed17:06
mriedemhttps://ibm-blue-box-help.github.io/help-documentation/nova/Metadata_service_FAQ/ is actually pretty nice17:06
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openstackgerritVishakha Agarwal proposed openstack/nova master: 'Updated_at' is NULL when show aggregate info  https://review.openstack.org/58027117:06
mnaserwe're setting up a new az as a cell and i dont want glance downloading stuff 24x7 because we have an expensive 10g link across az's17:06
mnaserone thing i'll have to figure out and work more on is making sure API can survive one site going down.. so running apis in both sites.. or idk yet17:07
dansmithmnaser: not yet :)17:07
mriedemdansmith: heh sound familiar? https://ibm-blue-box-help.github.io/help-documentation/nova/Metadata_service_FAQ/#q-i-want-to-use-userdata-with-heat-but-my-data-is-over-the-16k-limit-what-should-i-do17:07
dansmithmriedem: heh17:07
mnaserlol ^17:08
mnaserbut yeah i have to solve the image thing first..17:08
mnaseri was thinking it would be nice if the drivers that are all in cinder got extracted to a seperate library17:08
mnasersay moved to os-brick17:08
mnaserand then nova and cinder could use the same drivers to interact with stuff17:08
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Cache is_bfv check in ResourceTracker  https://review.openstack.org/58496217:09
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melwittmnaser: has that been proposed before? I would think it would be more complex than just loading a driver and calling the same methods no matter the driver on the nova side17:15
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mnasermelwitt: i dunno, it was just an idea.  i'm sure there are a lot of complexities involved but it would greatly reduce the duplicate code across cinder and nova17:16
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Add recreate test for RT.stats bug 1784705  https://review.openstack.org/58761417:18
openstackbug 1784705 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "ResourceTracker.stats can leak across multiple ironic nodes" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1784705 - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem)17:18
dansmithmriedem: I'm going to rebase your fix with my thing on top since it's in merge conflict now17:19
mriedemgdi17:19
mriedemok17:19
mriedemwas just working on backports17:19
mriedemoh i suppose my other RT changes caused the merge conflict17:19
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dansmithfrom what?17:20
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/584962 ?17:20
dansmithoh yeah, that one for yours,17:21
dansmithbut something else removed the _for_node() bit17:21
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Add recreate test for RT.stats bug 1784705  https://review.openstack.org/58792117:23
openstackbug 1784705 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "ResourceTracker.stats can leak across multiple ironic nodes" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1784705 - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem)17:23
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make ResourceTracker.stats node-specific  https://review.openstack.org/58763617:38
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Hook resource_tracker to remove stale node information  https://review.openstack.org/58792217:38
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mriedemdansmith: oopsydoodle https://review.openstack.org/#/c/587636/518:45
dansmithdid I do that?18:45
mriedemyes urkle18:45
dansmithI did?18:45
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/587636/4..5/nova/compute/resource_tracker.py@115718:45
dansmithhmm, I must have18:45
mriedemyou want to fix or me?18:46
dansmiththa's mah bad18:46
dansmithI have to fix unit tests on my top patch anyway18:46
dansmithor, hmm, maybe that's the fail18:46
mriedemi'm sure it is18:46
dansmithI really don't think I resolved a conflict here,18:47
dansmithbut it looks like it would have so maybe I did18:47
dansmithhey look'a the'r18:48
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make ResourceTracker.stats node-specific  https://review.openstack.org/58763618:49
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Hook resource_tracker to remove stale node information  https://review.openstack.org/58792218:49
mriedemlgtm18:49
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mriedemdansmith: one question in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/587922/18:56
mriedemi also wonder if it's worth backporting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/584204/18:59
mriedemit's a super latent issue and allocations in placement would still show root_gb usage for bfv instances in queens18:59
mriedemso maybe not worth it18:59
dansmithmriedem: answwered18:59
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Make ResourceTracker.stats node-specific  https://review.openstack.org/58797619:00
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sean-k-mooneydansmith: remove_node is called within the  update_available_resource  perodic task. if we delete the hypervior form the compute then read it after the periodic task. are they running in seperate threads?19:05
sean-k-mooneysorry that got messed up19:06
sean-k-mooneydo the periodic tasks run in a seperate full os thread form teh rest of the compute agent or a green thread19:06
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dansmitheverything is a green thread19:07
dansmithwith the exception of the libvirt event feeder thread19:07
sean-k-mooneyoh ok then ya we are not doing any io in remvoe_node so we wont yield so we should not race19:08
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melwitthow do we specify a microversion to openstackclient? trying to use osc-placement and most of the abilities are in later microversions19:38
melwittI guess it wouldn't be documented by openstackclient because it doesn't officially support it, just passes through to novaclient19:40
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Add recreate test for RT.stats bug 1784705  https://review.openstack.org/58803619:41
openstackbug 1784705 in OpenStack Compute (nova) queens "ResourceTracker.stats can leak across multiple ironic nodes" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1784705 - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem)19:41
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Make ResourceTracker.stats node-specific  https://review.openstack.org/58803719:41
mriedemmelwitt: totally different19:41
mriedemnovaclient does version negotiation with the server on the cli to see which version to use,19:41
mriedemand uses the max supported between the client and server for the CLI19:41
mriedemosc requires that the user opt into the microversion per request19:41
mriedemso,19:41
mriedemopenstack --os-compute-api-version 2.37 server create ....19:42
melwittright... but as far as what option to pass, I thought osc passes through any CLI option and one of those will tell novaclient19:42
mriedemosc will create novaclient with the version specified yes,19:42
melwittjust found that but it doesn't work for requesting a later placement API microversion?19:42
mriedembecause novaclient's python API bindings default to no microversion, so 2.119:42
mriedemnovaclient != placement...19:42
mriedemthere is no 2.1 in placement19:42
mriedemthere is 1.019:43
mriedemosc-placement doesn't have anything to do with novaclient19:43
dansmiththe passthrough is of the version,19:43
dansmithnot the CLI opt19:43
dansmithsince osc is its own client19:43
melwittoh, right. so how do we do microversions with it? it's saying I can't 'resource class list' because 1.0 doesn't support it. but it's in the command list19:43
dansmiththere's an option to specify the version19:43
dansmith--os-compute-api-version I think19:44
mriedemopenstack --os-placement-api-version 1.7 resource class list19:44
mriedemsomething like that,19:44
mriedemit's not 'compute' because it's not nova19:44
mriedemin the service catalog19:44
mriedemthe --os-<service-type>-api-version is based on the service catalog19:44
mriedemhttps://docs.openstack.org/osc-placement/latest/cli/index.html#resource-class-list19:45
mriedemThis command requires at least –os-placement-api-version 1.2.19:45
mriedemso, openstack --os-placement-api-version 1.2 resource class list19:45
mriedemif you know you're at some max version of placement, you could just set an env var19:45
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mriedemexport OS_PLACEMENT_API_VERSION=1.719:45
dansmithyeah, she said novaclient so I assumed she was hitting nova19:45
melwittthanks, I just couldn't find that option --os-placement-api-version anywhere19:45
dansmithbut placement for placement obviously19:45
mriedemand then don't have to worry about per-call mv19:45
melwittyeah, sorry19:45
mriedemmelwitt: should be in the help output for the command19:46
mriedemand https://docs.openstack.org/osc-placement/latest/user/index.html#microversion-usage19:46
melwittI got confused when I started thinking about passthrough of microversions when using osc19:46
melwittand it made me think of novaclient and the --os-compute-api-version thing19:46
mriedemyeah, it would be the same if there was a python-placementclient thing19:47
mriedembut we've intentionally always avoided that19:47
melwittok yeah, I see now 'openstack resource class list -h'19:47
mriedemb/c we have osc for cli and openstacksdk for sdk19:47
melwitt"Return a list of all resource classes. This command requires at least --os-19:48
melwittplacement-api-version 1.2."19:48
melwittthanks19:48
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Nix unused raise_if_custom_resource_class_pre_v1_1  https://review.openstack.org/57584720:18
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/ocata: Add recreate test for RT.stats bug 1784705  https://review.openstack.org/58807620:42
openstackbug 1784705 in OpenStack Compute (nova) queens "ResourceTracker.stats can leak across multiple ironic nodes" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1784705 - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem)20:42
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/ocata: Make ResourceTracker.stats node-specific  https://review.openstack.org/58807720:42
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mriedemooo goody 5 new bugs in triage21:03
melwittnooo21:04
mriedemwell one is against mitaka so....21:04
melwittyeah, just opened that one21:05
melwittI've noticed a fair bit of bugs being added to nova that used to be on other projects lately21:06
melwittor something. really old bugs coming back as new21:06
melwittmnaser: have you ever used evacuate with ceph-backed instances? looking at this bug and wondering if evacuate doesn't work with ceph period or if it's only if you've enabled the ceph "exclusive-lock" feature on a disk https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/178187821:15
openstackLaunchpad bug 1781878 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "VM fails to boot after evacuation when it uses ceph disk" [Undecided,New]21:16
* mnaser looks21:16
melwittthe way the bug is worded, I'm not certain whether they're saying evacuate is broken with ceph out-of-the-box21:16
mnaseri am almost certain this is a manifestation of another bug21:17
melwittso I was wondering if you've ever done evacuate successfully21:17
mnaserof a poorly upgraded ceph cluster21:17
mnaserone second21:17
melwittk21:17
mnaseryes, evacuate works all the time, but one second21:17
openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Compute: Handle reshaped provider trees  https://review.openstack.org/57623621:18
mnasermelwitt: http://lists.ceph.com/pipermail/ceph-users-ceph.com/2017-September/020722.html21:18
mnaseralongside doc there21:18
melwittthanks21:18
mnasersaaame exact behaviour afaik as original reported issue21:18
melwittoh, this is familiar ... I remember an internal bug we had about this21:19
mnasera lot of people were affected by this because the step to tell you to do this was forgotten in the original ceph upgrade docs21:19
melwitta-ha21:20
melwittgoing to try to find that internal bug, the conclusion was to add something to a config? to allow the blacklist command21:21
melwittand I had first seen the idea on an upstream cinder bug21:21
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mnasermelwitt: http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/releases/luminous/#upgrade-from-jewel-or-kraken21:23
mnaserspecifically #621:23
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melwittty21:27
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melwitthttps://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/176006521:29
openstackLaunchpad bug 1760065 in kolla-ansible "ceph luminous insufficient nova caps " [Undecided,New]21:29
melwittI think I found the bug I was thinking of, it wasn't for cinder though https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/177344921:31
openstackLaunchpad bug 1773449 in tripleo "VM rbd backed block devices inconsistent after unexpected host outage" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Giulio Fidente (gfidente)21:31
melwittparticularly comment #3121:31
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openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Add /reshaper handler for POST  https://review.openstack.org/57692721:33
openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: reshaper: Look up provider if not in inventories  https://review.openstack.org/58503321:33
openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Make get_allocations_for_resource_provider sane  https://review.openstack.org/58459821:33
openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Report client: Real get_allocs_for_consumer  https://review.openstack.org/58459921:33
openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Report client: get_allocations_for_provider_tree  https://review.openstack.org/58464821:33
openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Report client: _reshape helper, placement min bump  https://review.openstack.org/58503421:33
openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Report client: update_from_provider_tree w/reshape  https://review.openstack.org/58504921:33
openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Compute: Handle reshaped provider trees  https://review.openstack.org/57623621:33
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efriedmelwitt: FYI, this series is "finished" (ready for review) ^21:35
melwittefried: coolness, thanks for the heads up21:35
mriedemtime to slot up stein runways etherpad it looks like21:35
melwittyeah, I need to make some etherpads. need a retro one too for the PTG. and probably another one I'm forgetting21:36
mriedemstein review priorities?21:38
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Rollback failed evacuated guest  https://review.openstack.org/58808721:44
mriedemmdbooth and the red hat gang would probably love to punch holes in ^21:44
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sean-k-mooneymriedem: you -w it so im guessing your not to keen on its current state either21:49
mriedemno, rollback is tricky21:49
mriedemplus see the todo about bdm attachments21:49
sean-k-mooneymriedem: how many states can a vm in a failed evecuate be in by the way. in theor the compute service on teh host you were evacuating from is down so can we even check the current status of the vm21:50
mriedemunless the source came back up and changed the state on the instance in the db which is why the evac on the dest failed in the first place21:52
sean-k-mooneyright if this rollback is happening the vm is not running on the dest, may or may not be running on the source, and the source node may or may not be up21:53
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sean-k-mooneyjust reading the commit and bug for context but ya the rollback is non trivial21:55
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mriedemhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1784782 is news to me that you can pass GET /flavors?is_public=None as admin to list all flavors22:00
openstackLaunchpad bug 1784782 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "API: flavors - Cannot list all public and private flavors by default" [Undecided,New]22:00
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sean-k-mooneymriedem: am ya that seams unintentional that is_public=None would have that effect22:02
mriedemit was very intentional when it was added22:02
sean-k-mooneymriedem: im confused is that ment to work or not?22:02
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/32713/22:03
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mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/27403/22:03
mriedemour api-ref doesn't mention anything about this, just says is_public must be a boolean22:03
sean-k-mooneyhuh ok i did not know that22:04
mriedemme neither22:04
sean-k-mooneyim guessing there are no tests for this and we changed something recently22:04
mriedemtest_list_detail_flavors_with_is_public_filter_as_string_none22:05
mriedemtest_list_flavors_with_is_public_filter_as_string_none22:05
mriedemi don't see any functional tests, but there are unit tests22:05
sean-k-mooneyalso accourding to git blame nothing has changed in that fuction for 5 years22:06
sean-k-mooneyhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blame/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/flavors.py#L8922:06
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sean-k-mooneyi have a devstack deployment i did like 2 hours ago ill see if i can figure out how to test this with curl22:07
mriedemcreate a private flavor,22:08
mriedemget an admin token22:08
mriedemcurl /flavors?is_public='None'22:08
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sean-k-mooneythat seams to work22:12
sean-k-mooneyill post that to pastbin22:12
openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Remove redundant _update()s  https://review.openstack.org/58809122:12
sean-k-mooneyhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/727100/22:15
sean-k-mooneyi guss i should create some private flavor to see if they are missing one sec22:15
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: fix GET /flavors?is_public description  https://review.openstack.org/58809222:16
sean-k-mooneymriedem: ya it still works http://paste.openstack.org/show/727101/22:19
openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: only _init_compute_node on startup  https://review.openstack.org/58809422:20
sean-k-mooneyill add that as a comment on the bug22:20
mriedemsean-k-mooney: thanks22:20
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sean-k-mooneyalso if you can figure out how to get onto my network in the next hour there a free admin token for my devstack cloud lol22:21
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mriedemi'm already there,22:26
mriedemchecking out your kenny loggins fan directory22:27
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sean-k-mooneywhey would i need a fan dir when youtube has danger zone on a 4 hour loop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7dXpZCEKls&index=5&list=PLG2eb1MxWbfEQRhkJpzq0YeKOTyfpY3Db&t=0s22:28
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mriedemha22:28
mriedemdon't forget about caddyshack22:29
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mriedemhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8SSdyflGN4 has that guy from the doobie brothers in it22:30
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mriedemtwice the smoothness22:30
sean-k-mooneymriedem: ah yes i have not seen that movie in like 2 decades22:30
mriedem^ is what i used to get pumped before all summit talks22:31
sean-k-mooney:)22:32
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: doc: fix resize user guide link  https://review.openstack.org/58809722:53
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