Monday, 2018-08-27

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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Transform volume.usage notification  https://review.openstack.org/58034501:55
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Transform libvirt.error notification  https://review.openstack.org/48485101:55
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openstackgerritTsuyoshi Nagata proposed openstack/nova master: Fix nova can handle device name length more widely for universally.  https://review.openstack.org/57306602:35
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-novaclient stable/rocky: Update .gitreview for stable/rocky  https://review.openstack.org/58636405:34
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-novaclient stable/rocky: Update UPPER_CONSTRAINTS_FILE for stable/rocky  https://review.openstack.org/58636505:34
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Adds view builders for keypairs controller  https://review.openstack.org/34728906:02
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openstackgerritTsuyoshi Nagata proposed openstack/nova master: [nova] increasing the number of allowed volumes attached per instance > 26  https://review.openstack.org/56747207:22
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (3)  https://review.openstack.org/57410408:04
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openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: PoC: Support exclusive traits  https://review.openstack.org/59666908:44
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openstackgerritBrin Zhang proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Resource retrieving: add change-before filter  https://review.openstack.org/59197608:55
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openstackgerritSurya Seetharaman proposed openstack/nova master: Add scatter-gather-single-cell utility  https://review.openstack.org/59494709:07
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lennyb_#openstack-horizon,#openstack-dib,#openstack-infra,#openstack-ironic,#openstack-meeting,#openstack-meeting-alt,#openstack-neutron,#openstack-nova,#openstack-qa,#openstack-release,#openstack-third-party-ci,#rdo,#zuul,#openstack-cinder,#opendaylight,#opendaylight-integration ,#tripleo09:45
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova master: hyper-v: autospec classes before they are instantiated  https://review.openstack.org/34221110:30
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: replace spec with autospec  https://review.openstack.org/55729910:46
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: api: Remove unnecessary default parameter  https://review.openstack.org/56445110:55
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openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: PoC: Support exclusive traits  https://review.openstack.org/59666911:29
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: [nova] increasing the number of allowed volumes attached per instance > 26  https://review.openstack.org/56747212:01
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openstackgerritSurya Seetharaman proposed openstack/nova master: Making instance listing skipping down cells configurable  https://review.openstack.org/59242812:56
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mosheleshaid: hi13:14
moshelesahid: hi13:14
moshelesahid: I reply to you comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/595592/13:15
moshelesahid: let me know what you think13:15
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tssuryadansmith: if the change in instance_list here (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/567785/10/nova/compute/instance_list.py) is what you had in mind and if you are kind of okay, I can proceed to amending the tests..13:23
tssuryamriedem: updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/592428/13:24
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: DNM: Make nova tests pass with externalized placement  https://review.openstack.org/59629113:27
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dansmithtssurya: yep, makes sense13:33
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openstackgerritChen proposed openstack/nova master: Update volume-attachment API url in policies  https://review.openstack.org/59672613:39
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openstackgerritKonstantinos Samaras-Tsakiris proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Placement model for passthrough devices  https://review.openstack.org/59103713:42
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make instance_list perform per-cell batching  https://review.openstack.org/59313113:44
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Record cell success/failure/timeout in CrossCellLister  https://review.openstack.org/59426513:44
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Optimize global marker re-lookup in multi_cell_list  https://review.openstack.org/59457713:44
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mnaseryaaaay13:49
mnaserdid you know the cinder section in nova still uses os_region_name and not region_name13:49
mnaserthat was a fun exercise.13:49
mnaserand then even when fixing it, i had no idea why it didn't work, turns out service catalog and stuff was being cached13:50
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openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] split gigantor SQL query, add logging  https://review.openstack.org/59004113:50
efriednova-scheduler meeting in 10 minutes in #openstack-meeting-alt13:50
sean-k-mooneymnaser: seams ligit. we cache alot of things13:50
mnasersean-k-mooney: yeah it was a fun exercise in debugging13:51
mnaserattaching a volume where it 404s on the attachemnt :p13:51
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openstackgerritKonstantinos Samaras-Tsakiris proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Placement model for passthrough devices  https://review.openstack.org/59103714:18
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mriedemstephenfin: have you seen this? http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/#178892214:33
mriedemwe have a new gate failure which started friday after the func test refactor changes landed for the libvirt func test base14:34
mriedemlooks like some directories are not getting mocked now and fail in certain node providers14:34
stephenfinmriedem: I had not but I'll look into it now14:34
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: List instances from all cells explicitly  https://review.openstack.org/59371714:35
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sahidmoshele: i replied15:02
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openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova master: hardware: fix memory check usage for small/large pages  https://review.openstack.org/53216815:34
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: privsep: Handle ENOENT when checking for direct IO support  https://review.openstack.org/59681515:34
stephenfinmriedem: ^^ I suspect you're going to dislike that, but I can't find any reason that those refactor patches would have caused the CI failures15:35
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mriedemstephenfin: ok question inline15:40
mriedemmaybe something switched over to py3 on friday?15:40
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dansmithshouldn't we be mocking that out for functional tests anyway?15:41
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dansmithwe wouldn't want a functional test to behave differently if I run it on a weird filesystem...15:42
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sean-k-mooneydansmith: well if nova would behave qually weridly maybe we would15:44
sean-k-mooney*equally15:44
dansmithwe can test for both/all cases and make sure we handle it15:44
dansmithbut anything dependent on the system we're running on belongs in integration tests, IMHO15:45
dansmithotherwise we're saying we expect you can't run functional tests on weird platforms, which I think goes against the intent there15:45
sean-k-mooneydansmith: i really thing mocking in functional test should ideally be as minimal as possible but that said it really depend on what the functional test is testing15:46
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dansmithsean-k-mooney: per-test mocking for sure, but I think that if functional tests run differently on the gate depending on which cloud provider, and different on dev boxes because we're using different distros, platforms, filesystems, etc that's not super helpful15:47
sean-k-mooneydansmith: the main delta from me between a integration test and fuctional test is that for functual tests we mock other services15:47
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sean-k-mooneydansmith: ya i agree with that point15:47
dansmithsean-k-mooney: it's why we don't use real libvirt in functional, right? because then you couldn't run the functional tests on other platforms15:47
stephenfindansmith: I thought it was because libvirt was another service, so to speak15:48
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mriedemstephenfin: no, it's because i shouldn't have to install libvirt to run unit tests15:48
mriedemlike, i don't need a vcenter installed locally to run vmware tests15:48
sean-k-mooneymriedem: unit test yes15:48
sean-k-mooneymriedem: fucntional test i would argue you should15:49
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sean-k-mooneymriedem: that is if the fucntional test is testing the libvirt driver15:49
dansmithto me, our functional tests have minimal mocking so that we test large strings of nova together instead of mocking out everything above/below,15:49
dansmithbut they're still highly synthetic15:49
sean-k-mooneymriedem: if its testing the compute manager then no. you should not need libvirt installed15:49
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stephenfindansmith: Yeah, fair. Still think this is a valid fix though. Unless that particular platform couldn't even run libvirt, it's conceivable that someone using it in production would see this issue15:50
dansmithstephenfin: not arguing that it's not valid15:51
stephenfin"we wouldn't want a functional test to behave differently if I run it on a weird filesystem.." I figured we _would_ want it to behave differently15:52
dansmithwhat happens if you run functional on windows?15:52
sean-k-mooneystephenfin: is the filesystem logic germain to the functunality you are testing15:53
stephenfinagain, assuming that weird filesystem could conceivably be used in production15:53
stephenfinHmm, does libvirt work on Windows?15:53
sean-k-mooneystephenfin: it can manage hyperv15:53
stephenfinIf not, these whole things should be marked with skipIf15:53
sean-k-mooneystephenfin: not sure if it runs on windows in that case15:53
dansmithstephenfin: is this using real libvirt? if not, then I'm not sure why that matters15:53
stephenfinsean-k-mooney: Correction. Does nova+libvirt work on Windows?15:54
sean-k-mooneystephenfin: its not support but it would proably run15:55
dansmithstephenfin: are you saying that people shouldn't be able to run nova unit and functional tests of the libvirt driver on windows?15:55
dansmithor any other platform where libvirt doesn't exist or is hard to get a dev environment for?15:55
mriedemso i'm mostly just interested in finding out what regressed on friday15:56
stephenfindansmith: I think I am15:56
stephenfin:)15:56
mriedemlooks like oslo.privsep 1.29 was released on thursday15:56
stephenfinBut I'm probably wrong15:56
sean-k-mooneydansmith: well i dont think you should be able to run fuctional tests of the libvirt dirvier without libvirt.15:56
mriedemso could have been a regression or something new in the library15:56
dansmithbecause AFAIK, we're expecting the unit and functional tests to pretty much run everywhere15:56
sean-k-mooneydansmith: if you can its a unit test not a functional test15:56
dansmithsean-k-mooney: all of our functional tests of the libvirt driver do not use libvirt, AFAIK15:56
mriedemoh heh nevermind15:57
mriedemapril 23, not august 2315:57
dansmithsean-k-mooney: saying it another way: I don't think any of our functional tests of the libvirt driver  use libvirt15:57
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: privsep: Handle ENOENT when checking for direct IO support  https://review.openstack.org/59681515:57
stephenfindansmith: Yeah, they don't. We have a mock/simulator or sorts written15:58
dansmithright15:58
sean-k-mooneydansmith: perhaps we should not consider them libvirt driver fuctional tests then anyway i think we are ratholing15:58
mriedemwe used to pip install libvirt-python in our unit/functional tests,15:58
mriedembut turned out that certain builds of that were reporting one version but actually built against another15:58
mriedemso you'd get really weird failures, like libvirt attributes not existing15:58
mriedemhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/141470815:59
openstackLaunchpad bug 1414708 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "libvirt unit tests are failing if no real libvirt installed" [Low,Fix released] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem)15:59
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Fix create_resource_provider docstring  https://review.openstack.org/59545316:01
mriedemstephenfin: should probably remove that url link16:03
mriedemthe query is in the linked bug if people care16:03
stephenfinmriedem: Fair. Sec16:03
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: privsep: Handle ENOENT when checking for direct IO support  https://review.openstack.org/59681516:05
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: tests: Validate huge pages  https://review.openstack.org/39965316:08
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: tests: Further simplification of test_numa_servers  https://review.openstack.org/59683216:08
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* mnaser likes being able to run functional tests on his macos machine16:37
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jaypipesmnaser: you got those to work? I still can't since my mac has py3.717:20
mnaserjaypipes: pyenv has been good to me17:20
mnaserpyenv shell <version> and proceed17:20
mnaserit gets a bit annoying since you got to switch back and forth a few times, and you can go back to the system one using `pyenv shell system`17:21
mnaseri think you can drop a .pyenv file that makes a folder use a version specifically all the time too17:21
mnaserso your shell remains using 3.7 unless you're in the nova dir for example17:21
mnaserbtw: we deployed rocky, it seems okay so far, i'm getting it added to nodepool (and deployed in nodepool with bfv) so i'll report if anything goes up in flames17:22
sean-k-mooneymnaser: when did nodepool get bfv support?17:23
mnasersean-k-mooney: i think it's been a while17:23
mnaserhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/596830/17:23
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jaypipesmnaser: interesting. hadn't heard of pyenv. thanks!17:24
sean-k-mooneyjaypipes: pyenv is pretty cool17:24
sean-k-mooneyjaypipes: its basically the python comunityes answer to what we do with tox+pbr+requirements repo17:25
sean-k-mooneyor am i thinking of pipenv17:25
sean-k-mooneysorry yes i was thinking of pipenv17:26
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jaypipessean-k-mooney: you know what's even cooler? not using a mac.17:28
jaypipes:P17:28
sean-k-mooneyew... i mean if i can completely unilstall osx and install windows/linux then maybe but no17:29
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jungleboyjmelwitt: You around?17:33
melwittjungleboyj: hey17:34
jungleboyjmelwitt:  Hey, what time Thursday morning do you want us all to get together?17:35
* sean-k-mooney missed the not in jays message17:35
melwittjungleboyj: I penciled in the usual 9-11 on our ptg etherpad, not knowing what to pick. what time were you thinking?17:37
jungleboyjmelwitt:  That is fine, That is what we have done in the past is just started the day on that.17:37
jungleboyjmelwitt:  I will do the same for us.17:38
jaypipessean-k-mooney: well, I haven't run Windows in a long long time...17:38
jaypipessean-k-mooney: and I only have this Mac because $work forces it on me :)17:38
melwittjungleboyj: cool, sounds good17:38
* sean-k-mooney feels sad for jay17:39
jungleboyjmelwitt:  Thanks!17:39
sean-k-mooneyjaypipes: i liked windows 7 an 8.1 i dont really like 1017:39
sean-k-mooneyjaypipes: im using linux currently but it if that is better then windows really depends on what distro your running on and the hardware its running on17:41
jaypipessean-k-mooney: ubuntu with i3wm. no gnome, no unity, no kde. none of that business.17:41
sean-k-mooneyjaypipes: im using pop os currently with cinnamon. i cant stand gnome17:43
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efriedWindows hasn't gotten better since 98/NT.17:55
efriedjust bloatier17:55
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cdentbeta version of NT was good, after that, downhill17:58
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: [placement] split gigantor SQL query, add logging  https://review.openstack.org/59004118:16
gryfjaypipes, sean-k-mooney small talk about desktop environments on linux, eh? :)18:17
sean-k-mooneygryf: have to do something while devstack is stacking18:18
gryfyeah :)18:18
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jaypipesgryf: :)18:40
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melwittmlavalle: how does 'after lunch - 3pm on thursday' sound for neutron/nova time at the PTG?19:03
melwittTheJulia: how does '~3:30pm - 5pm on thursday' sound for ironic/nova time at the PTG?19:04
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TheJuliamelwitt: sounds good19:32
melwittTheJulia: k, cool. there's a section at L139 on our etherpad for adding topics https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-stein19:33
TheJuliamelwitt: awesome19:33
efriedkosamara: Let me know if you want me to author some content in that spec.19:36
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mlavallemelwitt: sounds good. so we we have few joint topics this time around?19:41
melwittmlavalle: we haven't filled in any specific cross project topics yet (see L136 on the etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-stein) but I'll ask folks to add them there. if we need more time, we could do a split session to start before lunch ~11:20 - lunch and then continue after lunch if it looks like we'll need more time19:43
mlavallemelwitt: ack19:44
mlavallemelwitt: tyanks :-)19:44
melwittmlavalle: please have your team add topics there too. I'll make a ML post too. thanks19:44
mlavallemelwitt: ok19:44
mlavallemelwitt: I'll mention it during our weekly meeting tomorrow morning19:45
melwittok great19:45
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mriedem2 hours for retrospective huh?20:25
openstackgerritDmitry Sutyagin proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Allow disabling KSM / mem-merge via extra spec  https://review.openstack.org/59319720:26
mriedemthere must be a lot that no one has mentioned yet https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-rocky-retrospective20:26
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sean-k-mooneymriedem: i guess part of the feeling is that there should be and given that we dont have a detailed reto we might need to send some of that time to figure it out. that said if there is nothing im sure we will use the time for something more useful20:36
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melwittmriedem: that was based on how long it took last time. but agreed with how empty the etherpad is, maybe should plan for more like 30min - 1 hour20:37
melwittlast time, I think we scheduled 30 min and it took 2 hours, or something like that20:37
sean-k-mooneymelwitt: it might be good to add some time to discuss what were our priorities for Rocky and assess how much we got done20:38
mriedemin dublin?20:39
mriedemi thought it took less than an hour in dublin20:39
mriedemwe didn't have priorities in rocky20:39
melwittsean-k-mooney: yeah, I slotted time for priorities discussion at the end on friday this time. I had forgotten last time20:39
sean-k-mooneymriedem: oh i assumed https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/priorities/rocky-priorities.html had a list i should have read it i guess20:40
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: privsep: Handle ENOENT when checking for direct IO support  https://review.openstack.org/59681520:41
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melwittmriedem: yeah, it took about 2 hours in dublin, that's my memory. the etherpad was pretty big https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-queens-retrospective21:03
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dansmithmelwitt: wasn't most of that filled in ahead of time?21:04
melwittmost of it yeah21:05
dansmithI'm definitely in favor of time-boxing the retro21:05
dansmithit needs to happen, but it can run away if allowed21:05
mriedemif it helps, placement extraction landmine is technically a stein thing, not a rocky thing :)21:06
mriedemso we could all be hit by buses before having to retrospect on that21:06
mriedemalive! era soccer crash etc21:06
sean-k-mooneymriedem: just like the deltion of nova-networks and cellsv1 retro...21:07
mriedem?21:07
* sean-k-mooney too soon21:07
* mriedem doesn't get it21:08
sean-k-mooneymriedem: extraction of placement feels like deltetion of nova networks in that we have talked about several time in the past.21:08
dansmithum, no21:08
dansmithnobody cares enough to delete nova-network right now :)21:08
dansmithkinda the opposite problem21:09
mriedemi cared enough to neuter several APIs :)21:09
* dansmith nods21:09
sean-k-mooneydansmith: ya but we really cant undpercate it twice because we never got around to deleting it21:10
mriedemsean-k-mooney: you might just be thinking of all the "are we ready to make neutron the default and deprecate nova-net" discussions21:10
dansmithI'm confused21:10
sean-k-mooneymriedem: perhaps.21:10
melwittokay, let's plan for a time box of 1 hour then, based on the emptiness of the etherpad and trying to account for things that people bring up on-the-fly. maybe it will be shorter than that, and if so, we'll just start on the next thing21:11
sean-k-mooneymelwitt: are you aware of any cross project session with nova on the monday or tuesday? do we have a cyborg session this time?21:13
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sean-k-mooneyis the operator meetup is collated with PTG this time too?21:14
melwittsean-k-mooney: no, not that I know of. there are things related to nova in general but no special cross project time has been scheduled21:15
mriedemops meetup is colocated this time yes21:16
mriedemjust in time for the last ptg!21:16
sean-k-mooneymriedem: has that actully been decided? i kindo of stopped caring21:17
mriedemyes, ptg is colocated with the summit starting in denver summit21:17
sean-k-mooneyno not that. the future of the ptg21:17
mriedemDOA21:17
sean-k-mooneyoh sorry miss read21:17
sean-k-mooneymriedem: so back to the design summit21:18
mriedemyeah i guess21:18
sean-k-mooneyand operators meetup will also be colocated with denver summit?21:18
mriedemprobably not21:18
melwittexcept now it goes also on saturday21:18
mriedemoperators will likely go back to self-organizing meetups like they used to21:19
mriedemafter we bait and switched them21:19
mriedemsuckers!21:19
sean-k-mooneythis is why my eye glaze over when i see emails on this topic21:19
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add contributor guide for upgrade status checks  https://review.openstack.org/59690221:22
melwittmgagne_: don't forget to re-propose this spec for stein since we didn't get it merged in time for rocky https://review.openstack.org/58074221:37
openstackgerritsean mooney proposed openstack/nova master: add regression test for bug 1759420  https://review.openstack.org/58761521:39
openstackbug 1759420 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova does not correctly support HW_DISK_BUS=sata or usb for kvm/qemu" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1759420 - Assigned to sean mooney (sean-k-mooney)21:39
openstackgerritsean mooney proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: fix disk_bus handling for root disk  https://review.openstack.org/58499921:39
openstackgerritPatricia Domingues proposed openstack/nova master: load up the volume drivers by checking architecture  https://review.openstack.org/54139321:44
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openstackgerritPatricia Domingues proposed openstack/nova master: load up the volume drivers by checking architecture  https://review.openstack.org/54139321:46
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