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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Transform volume.usage notification https://review.openstack.org/580345 | 01:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Tsuyoshi Nagata proposed openstack/nova master: Fix nova can handle device name length more widely for universally. https://review.openstack.org/573066 | 02:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-novaclient stable/rocky: Update .gitreview for stable/rocky https://review.openstack.org/586364 | 05:34 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-novaclient stable/rocky: Update UPPER_CONSTRAINTS_FILE for stable/rocky https://review.openstack.org/586365 | 05:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Adds view builders for keypairs controller https://review.openstack.org/347289 | 06:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Tsuyoshi Nagata proposed openstack/nova master: [nova] increasing the number of allowed volumes attached per instance > 26 https://review.openstack.org/567472 | 07:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (3) https://review.openstack.org/574104 | 08:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Tetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: PoC: Support exclusive traits https://review.openstack.org/596669 | 08:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Brin Zhang proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Resource retrieving: add change-before filter https://review.openstack.org/591976 | 08:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Surya Seetharaman proposed openstack/nova master: Add scatter-gather-single-cell utility https://review.openstack.org/594947 | 09:07 |
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lennyb_ | #openstack-horizon,#openstack-dib,#openstack-infra,#openstack-ironic,#openstack-meeting,#openstack-meeting-alt,#openstack-neutron,#openstack-nova,#openstack-qa,#openstack-release,#openstack-third-party-ci,#rdo,#zuul,#openstack-cinder,#opendaylight,#opendaylight-integration ,#tripleo | 09:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova master: hyper-v: autospec classes before they are instantiated https://review.openstack.org/342211 | 10:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: replace spec with autospec https://review.openstack.org/557299 | 10:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: api: Remove unnecessary default parameter https://review.openstack.org/564451 | 10:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Tetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: PoC: Support exclusive traits https://review.openstack.org/596669 | 11:29 |
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openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: [nova] increasing the number of allowed volumes attached per instance > 26 https://review.openstack.org/567472 | 12:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Surya Seetharaman proposed openstack/nova master: Making instance listing skipping down cells configurable https://review.openstack.org/592428 | 12:56 |
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moshele | shaid: hi | 13:14 |
moshele | sahid: hi | 13:14 |
moshele | sahid: I reply to you comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/595592/ | 13:15 |
moshele | sahid: let me know what you think | 13:15 |
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tssurya | dansmith: if the change in instance_list here (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/567785/10/nova/compute/instance_list.py) is what you had in mind and if you are kind of okay, I can proceed to amending the tests.. | 13:23 |
tssurya | mriedem: updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/592428/ | 13:24 |
openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: DNM: Make nova tests pass with externalized placement https://review.openstack.org/596291 | 13:27 |
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dansmith | tssurya: yep, makes sense | 13:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Chen proposed openstack/nova master: Update volume-attachment API url in policies https://review.openstack.org/596726 | 13:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Konstantinos Samaras-Tsakiris proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Placement model for passthrough devices https://review.openstack.org/591037 | 13:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make instance_list perform per-cell batching https://review.openstack.org/593131 | 13:44 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Record cell success/failure/timeout in CrossCellLister https://review.openstack.org/594265 | 13:44 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Optimize global marker re-lookup in multi_cell_list https://review.openstack.org/594577 | 13:44 |
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mnaser | yaaaay | 13:49 |
mnaser | did you know the cinder section in nova still uses os_region_name and not region_name | 13:49 |
mnaser | that was a fun exercise. | 13:49 |
mnaser | and then even when fixing it, i had no idea why it didn't work, turns out service catalog and stuff was being cached | 13:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] split gigantor SQL query, add logging https://review.openstack.org/590041 | 13:50 |
efried | nova-scheduler meeting in 10 minutes in #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:50 |
sean-k-mooney | mnaser: seams ligit. we cache alot of things | 13:50 |
mnaser | sean-k-mooney: yeah it was a fun exercise in debugging | 13:51 |
mnaser | attaching a volume where it 404s on the attachemnt :p | 13:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Konstantinos Samaras-Tsakiris proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Placement model for passthrough devices https://review.openstack.org/591037 | 14:18 |
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mriedem | stephenfin: have you seen this? http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/#1788922 | 14:33 |
mriedem | we have a new gate failure which started friday after the func test refactor changes landed for the libvirt func test base | 14:34 |
mriedem | looks like some directories are not getting mocked now and fail in certain node providers | 14:34 |
stephenfin | mriedem: I had not but I'll look into it now | 14:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: List instances from all cells explicitly https://review.openstack.org/593717 | 14:35 |
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sahid | moshele: i replied | 15:02 |
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openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova master: hardware: fix memory check usage for small/large pages https://review.openstack.org/532168 | 15:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: privsep: Handle ENOENT when checking for direct IO support https://review.openstack.org/596815 | 15:34 |
stephenfin | mriedem: ^^ I suspect you're going to dislike that, but I can't find any reason that those refactor patches would have caused the CI failures | 15:35 |
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mriedem | stephenfin: ok question inline | 15:40 |
mriedem | maybe something switched over to py3 on friday? | 15:40 |
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dansmith | shouldn't we be mocking that out for functional tests anyway? | 15:41 |
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dansmith | we wouldn't want a functional test to behave differently if I run it on a weird filesystem... | 15:42 |
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sean-k-mooney | dansmith: well if nova would behave qually weridly maybe we would | 15:44 |
sean-k-mooney | *equally | 15:44 |
dansmith | we can test for both/all cases and make sure we handle it | 15:44 |
dansmith | but anything dependent on the system we're running on belongs in integration tests, IMHO | 15:45 |
dansmith | otherwise we're saying we expect you can't run functional tests on weird platforms, which I think goes against the intent there | 15:45 |
sean-k-mooney | dansmith: i really thing mocking in functional test should ideally be as minimal as possible but that said it really depend on what the functional test is testing | 15:46 |
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dansmith | sean-k-mooney: per-test mocking for sure, but I think that if functional tests run differently on the gate depending on which cloud provider, and different on dev boxes because we're using different distros, platforms, filesystems, etc that's not super helpful | 15:47 |
sean-k-mooney | dansmith: the main delta from me between a integration test and fuctional test is that for functual tests we mock other services | 15:47 |
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sean-k-mooney | dansmith: ya i agree with that point | 15:47 |
dansmith | sean-k-mooney: it's why we don't use real libvirt in functional, right? because then you couldn't run the functional tests on other platforms | 15:47 |
stephenfin | dansmith: I thought it was because libvirt was another service, so to speak | 15:48 |
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mriedem | stephenfin: no, it's because i shouldn't have to install libvirt to run unit tests | 15:48 |
mriedem | like, i don't need a vcenter installed locally to run vmware tests | 15:48 |
sean-k-mooney | mriedem: unit test yes | 15:48 |
sean-k-mooney | mriedem: fucntional test i would argue you should | 15:49 |
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sean-k-mooney | mriedem: that is if the fucntional test is testing the libvirt driver | 15:49 |
dansmith | to me, our functional tests have minimal mocking so that we test large strings of nova together instead of mocking out everything above/below, | 15:49 |
dansmith | but they're still highly synthetic | 15:49 |
sean-k-mooney | mriedem: if its testing the compute manager then no. you should not need libvirt installed | 15:49 |
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stephenfin | dansmith: Yeah, fair. Still think this is a valid fix though. Unless that particular platform couldn't even run libvirt, it's conceivable that someone using it in production would see this issue | 15:50 |
dansmith | stephenfin: not arguing that it's not valid | 15:51 |
stephenfin | "we wouldn't want a functional test to behave differently if I run it on a weird filesystem.." I figured we _would_ want it to behave differently | 15:52 |
dansmith | what happens if you run functional on windows? | 15:52 |
sean-k-mooney | stephenfin: is the filesystem logic germain to the functunality you are testing | 15:53 |
stephenfin | again, assuming that weird filesystem could conceivably be used in production | 15:53 |
stephenfin | Hmm, does libvirt work on Windows? | 15:53 |
sean-k-mooney | stephenfin: it can manage hyperv | 15:53 |
stephenfin | If not, these whole things should be marked with skipIf | 15:53 |
sean-k-mooney | stephenfin: not sure if it runs on windows in that case | 15:53 |
dansmith | stephenfin: is this using real libvirt? if not, then I'm not sure why that matters | 15:53 |
stephenfin | sean-k-mooney: Correction. Does nova+libvirt work on Windows? | 15:54 |
sean-k-mooney | stephenfin: its not support but it would proably run | 15:55 |
dansmith | stephenfin: are you saying that people shouldn't be able to run nova unit and functional tests of the libvirt driver on windows? | 15:55 |
dansmith | or any other platform where libvirt doesn't exist or is hard to get a dev environment for? | 15:55 |
mriedem | so i'm mostly just interested in finding out what regressed on friday | 15:56 |
stephenfin | dansmith: I think I am | 15:56 |
stephenfin | :) | 15:56 |
mriedem | looks like oslo.privsep 1.29 was released on thursday | 15:56 |
stephenfin | But I'm probably wrong | 15:56 |
sean-k-mooney | dansmith: well i dont think you should be able to run fuctional tests of the libvirt dirvier without libvirt. | 15:56 |
mriedem | so could have been a regression or something new in the library | 15:56 |
dansmith | because AFAIK, we're expecting the unit and functional tests to pretty much run everywhere | 15:56 |
sean-k-mooney | dansmith: if you can its a unit test not a functional test | 15:56 |
dansmith | sean-k-mooney: all of our functional tests of the libvirt driver do not use libvirt, AFAIK | 15:56 |
mriedem | oh heh nevermind | 15:57 |
mriedem | april 23, not august 23 | 15:57 |
dansmith | sean-k-mooney: saying it another way: I don't think any of our functional tests of the libvirt driver use libvirt | 15:57 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: privsep: Handle ENOENT when checking for direct IO support https://review.openstack.org/596815 | 15:57 |
stephenfin | dansmith: Yeah, they don't. We have a mock/simulator or sorts written | 15:58 |
dansmith | right | 15:58 |
sean-k-mooney | dansmith: perhaps we should not consider them libvirt driver fuctional tests then anyway i think we are ratholing | 15:58 |
mriedem | we used to pip install libvirt-python in our unit/functional tests, | 15:58 |
mriedem | but turned out that certain builds of that were reporting one version but actually built against another | 15:58 |
mriedem | so you'd get really weird failures, like libvirt attributes not existing | 15:58 |
mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1414708 | 15:59 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1414708 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "libvirt unit tests are failing if no real libvirt installed" [Low,Fix released] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem) | 15:59 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Fix create_resource_provider docstring https://review.openstack.org/595453 | 16:01 |
mriedem | stephenfin: should probably remove that url link | 16:03 |
mriedem | the query is in the linked bug if people care | 16:03 |
stephenfin | mriedem: Fair. Sec | 16:03 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: privsep: Handle ENOENT when checking for direct IO support https://review.openstack.org/596815 | 16:05 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: tests: Validate huge pages https://review.openstack.org/399653 | 16:08 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: tests: Further simplification of test_numa_servers https://review.openstack.org/596832 | 16:08 |
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jaypipes | mnaser: you got those to work? I still can't since my mac has py3.7 | 17:20 |
mnaser | jaypipes: pyenv has been good to me | 17:20 |
mnaser | pyenv shell <version> and proceed | 17:20 |
mnaser | it gets a bit annoying since you got to switch back and forth a few times, and you can go back to the system one using `pyenv shell system` | 17:21 |
mnaser | i think you can drop a .pyenv file that makes a folder use a version specifically all the time too | 17:21 |
mnaser | so your shell remains using 3.7 unless you're in the nova dir for example | 17:21 |
mnaser | btw: we deployed rocky, it seems okay so far, i'm getting it added to nodepool (and deployed in nodepool with bfv) so i'll report if anything goes up in flames | 17:22 |
sean-k-mooney | mnaser: when did nodepool get bfv support? | 17:23 |
mnaser | sean-k-mooney: i think it's been a while | 17:23 |
mnaser | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/596830/ | 17:23 |
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jaypipes | mnaser: interesting. hadn't heard of pyenv. thanks! | 17:24 |
sean-k-mooney | jaypipes: pyenv is pretty cool | 17:24 |
sean-k-mooney | jaypipes: its basically the python comunityes answer to what we do with tox+pbr+requirements repo | 17:25 |
sean-k-mooney | or am i thinking of pipenv | 17:25 |
sean-k-mooney | sorry yes i was thinking of pipenv | 17:26 |
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jaypipes | sean-k-mooney: you know what's even cooler? not using a mac. | 17:28 |
jaypipes | :P | 17:28 |
sean-k-mooney | ew... i mean if i can completely unilstall osx and install windows/linux then maybe but no | 17:29 |
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jungleboyj | melwitt: You around? | 17:33 |
melwitt | jungleboyj: hey | 17:34 |
jungleboyj | melwitt: Hey, what time Thursday morning do you want us all to get together? | 17:35 |
* sean-k-mooney missed the not in jays message | 17:35 | |
melwitt | jungleboyj: I penciled in the usual 9-11 on our ptg etherpad, not knowing what to pick. what time were you thinking? | 17:37 |
jungleboyj | melwitt: That is fine, That is what we have done in the past is just started the day on that. | 17:37 |
jungleboyj | melwitt: I will do the same for us. | 17:38 |
jaypipes | sean-k-mooney: well, I haven't run Windows in a long long time... | 17:38 |
jaypipes | sean-k-mooney: and I only have this Mac because $work forces it on me :) | 17:38 |
melwitt | jungleboyj: cool, sounds good | 17:38 |
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jungleboyj | melwitt: Thanks! | 17:39 |
sean-k-mooney | jaypipes: i liked windows 7 an 8.1 i dont really like 10 | 17:39 |
sean-k-mooney | jaypipes: im using linux currently but it if that is better then windows really depends on what distro your running on and the hardware its running on | 17:41 |
jaypipes | sean-k-mooney: ubuntu with i3wm. no gnome, no unity, no kde. none of that business. | 17:41 |
sean-k-mooney | jaypipes: im using pop os currently with cinnamon. i cant stand gnome | 17:43 |
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efried | Windows hasn't gotten better since 98/NT. | 17:55 |
efried | just bloatier | 17:55 |
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cdent | beta version of NT was good, after that, downhill | 17:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: [placement] split gigantor SQL query, add logging https://review.openstack.org/590041 | 18:16 |
gryf | jaypipes, sean-k-mooney small talk about desktop environments on linux, eh? :) | 18:17 |
sean-k-mooney | gryf: have to do something while devstack is stacking | 18:18 |
gryf | yeah :) | 18:18 |
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jaypipes | gryf: :) | 18:40 |
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melwitt | mlavalle: how does 'after lunch - 3pm on thursday' sound for neutron/nova time at the PTG? | 19:03 |
melwitt | TheJulia: how does '~3:30pm - 5pm on thursday' sound for ironic/nova time at the PTG? | 19:04 |
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TheJulia | melwitt: sounds good | 19:32 |
melwitt | TheJulia: k, cool. there's a section at L139 on our etherpad for adding topics https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-stein | 19:33 |
TheJulia | melwitt: awesome | 19:33 |
efried | kosamara: Let me know if you want me to author some content in that spec. | 19:36 |
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mlavalle | melwitt: sounds good. so we we have few joint topics this time around? | 19:41 |
melwitt | mlavalle: we haven't filled in any specific cross project topics yet (see L136 on the etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-stein) but I'll ask folks to add them there. if we need more time, we could do a split session to start before lunch ~11:20 - lunch and then continue after lunch if it looks like we'll need more time | 19:43 |
mlavalle | melwitt: ack | 19:44 |
mlavalle | melwitt: tyanks :-) | 19:44 |
melwitt | mlavalle: please have your team add topics there too. I'll make a ML post too. thanks | 19:44 |
mlavalle | melwitt: ok | 19:44 |
mlavalle | melwitt: I'll mention it during our weekly meeting tomorrow morning | 19:45 |
melwitt | ok great | 19:45 |
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mriedem | 2 hours for retrospective huh? | 20:25 |
openstackgerrit | Dmitry Sutyagin proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Allow disabling KSM / mem-merge via extra spec https://review.openstack.org/593197 | 20:26 |
mriedem | there must be a lot that no one has mentioned yet https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-rocky-retrospective | 20:26 |
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sean-k-mooney | mriedem: i guess part of the feeling is that there should be and given that we dont have a detailed reto we might need to send some of that time to figure it out. that said if there is nothing im sure we will use the time for something more useful | 20:36 |
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melwitt | mriedem: that was based on how long it took last time. but agreed with how empty the etherpad is, maybe should plan for more like 30min - 1 hour | 20:37 |
melwitt | last time, I think we scheduled 30 min and it took 2 hours, or something like that | 20:37 |
sean-k-mooney | melwitt: it might be good to add some time to discuss what were our priorities for Rocky and assess how much we got done | 20:38 |
mriedem | in dublin? | 20:39 |
mriedem | i thought it took less than an hour in dublin | 20:39 |
mriedem | we didn't have priorities in rocky | 20:39 |
melwitt | sean-k-mooney: yeah, I slotted time for priorities discussion at the end on friday this time. I had forgotten last time | 20:39 |
sean-k-mooney | mriedem: oh i assumed https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/priorities/rocky-priorities.html had a list i should have read it i guess | 20:40 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: privsep: Handle ENOENT when checking for direct IO support https://review.openstack.org/596815 | 20:41 |
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melwitt | mriedem: yeah, it took about 2 hours in dublin, that's my memory. the etherpad was pretty big https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-queens-retrospective | 21:03 |
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dansmith | melwitt: wasn't most of that filled in ahead of time? | 21:04 |
melwitt | most of it yeah | 21:05 |
dansmith | I'm definitely in favor of time-boxing the retro | 21:05 |
dansmith | it needs to happen, but it can run away if allowed | 21:05 |
mriedem | if it helps, placement extraction landmine is technically a stein thing, not a rocky thing :) | 21:06 |
mriedem | so we could all be hit by buses before having to retrospect on that | 21:06 |
mriedem | alive! era soccer crash etc | 21:06 |
sean-k-mooney | mriedem: just like the deltion of nova-networks and cellsv1 retro... | 21:07 |
mriedem | ? | 21:07 |
* sean-k-mooney too soon | 21:07 | |
* mriedem doesn't get it | 21:08 | |
sean-k-mooney | mriedem: extraction of placement feels like deltetion of nova networks in that we have talked about several time in the past. | 21:08 |
dansmith | um, no | 21:08 |
dansmith | nobody cares enough to delete nova-network right now :) | 21:08 |
dansmith | kinda the opposite problem | 21:09 |
mriedem | i cared enough to neuter several APIs :) | 21:09 |
* dansmith nods | 21:09 | |
sean-k-mooney | dansmith: ya but we really cant undpercate it twice because we never got around to deleting it | 21:10 |
mriedem | sean-k-mooney: you might just be thinking of all the "are we ready to make neutron the default and deprecate nova-net" discussions | 21:10 |
dansmith | I'm confused | 21:10 |
sean-k-mooney | mriedem: perhaps. | 21:10 |
melwitt | okay, let's plan for a time box of 1 hour then, based on the emptiness of the etherpad and trying to account for things that people bring up on-the-fly. maybe it will be shorter than that, and if so, we'll just start on the next thing | 21:11 |
sean-k-mooney | melwitt: are you aware of any cross project session with nova on the monday or tuesday? do we have a cyborg session this time? | 21:13 |
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sean-k-mooney | is the operator meetup is collated with PTG this time too? | 21:14 |
melwitt | sean-k-mooney: no, not that I know of. there are things related to nova in general but no special cross project time has been scheduled | 21:15 |
mriedem | ops meetup is colocated this time yes | 21:16 |
mriedem | just in time for the last ptg! | 21:16 |
sean-k-mooney | mriedem: has that actully been decided? i kindo of stopped caring | 21:17 |
mriedem | yes, ptg is colocated with the summit starting in denver summit | 21:17 |
sean-k-mooney | no not that. the future of the ptg | 21:17 |
mriedem | DOA | 21:17 |
sean-k-mooney | oh sorry miss read | 21:17 |
sean-k-mooney | mriedem: so back to the design summit | 21:18 |
mriedem | yeah i guess | 21:18 |
sean-k-mooney | and operators meetup will also be colocated with denver summit? | 21:18 |
mriedem | probably not | 21:18 |
melwitt | except now it goes also on saturday | 21:18 |
mriedem | operators will likely go back to self-organizing meetups like they used to | 21:19 |
mriedem | after we bait and switched them | 21:19 |
mriedem | suckers! | 21:19 |
sean-k-mooney | this is why my eye glaze over when i see emails on this topic | 21:19 |
openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add contributor guide for upgrade status checks https://review.openstack.org/596902 | 21:22 |
melwitt | mgagne_: don't forget to re-propose this spec for stein since we didn't get it merged in time for rocky https://review.openstack.org/580742 | 21:37 |
openstackgerrit | sean mooney proposed openstack/nova master: add regression test for bug 1759420 https://review.openstack.org/587615 | 21:39 |
openstack | bug 1759420 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova does not correctly support HW_DISK_BUS=sata or usb for kvm/qemu" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1759420 - Assigned to sean mooney (sean-k-mooney) | 21:39 |
openstackgerrit | sean mooney proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: fix disk_bus handling for root disk https://review.openstack.org/584999 | 21:39 |
openstackgerrit | Patricia Domingues proposed openstack/nova master: load up the volume drivers by checking architecture https://review.openstack.org/541393 | 21:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Patricia Domingues proposed openstack/nova master: load up the volume drivers by checking architecture https://review.openstack.org/541393 | 21:46 |
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