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| openstackgerrit | Radoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova master: Do not dump all instances in the scheduler https://review.openstack.org/598611 | 07:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Radoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova master: Do not dump all instances in the scheduler https://review.openstack.org/598611 | 07:04 |
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| artom | Actually, sahid, if you're awake already, you might know this. Can NUMA resources be claimed without using a MoveClaim context? | 07:08 |
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| sahid | artom: not sure what you mean? i thnk we have two ways to claim resources but you can implement a new one if necessary | 07:10 |
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| artom | sahid, so, for cold migration for instance, there's code in the conductor that essentially says, "with rt.cold_migration_claim: <do cold migration>" | 07:11 |
| artom | And IIUC this claim context is how resources are claimed on the destination node | 07:11 |
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| artom | Is there a less opaque way of doing, for example by calling something like rt.claim_these_resources_on_the_compute_host? | 07:12 |
| artom | I'm essentially trying to avoid having to understand claim contexts :D | 07:12 |
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| sahid | artom: well... i did not have yet finish my coffe but i would say, you will have to reuse moveclaim that to avoid rewriting everything, | 07:15 |
| artom | sahid, aha, thanks! That's... what I was afraid of :( | 07:15 |
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| sahid | artom there is nothing so complicted in moveclaim, basically we just create a migration object context and update resources on destination host based on the instance that we are migrating | 07:16 |
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| artom | sahid, heh, you keep saying that, and I just can never bring myself to go through that code and understand what's going on and what else it affects | 07:17 |
| artom | sahid, maybe a bjns when you have time so you can bring me up to speed | 07:17 |
| sahid | what is blocking you? | 07:18 |
| artom | Besides my own stupidity and laziness? ;) | 07:18 |
| sahid | ahahah :) | 07:18 |
| artom | So, the context is, I'm updating the live migration spec for Stein, and I was pinning my hopes on placement to claim resources on the dest | 07:19 |
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| artom | But! Placement is only qualitative - ie, you can say I'm claiming 2 NUMA nodes, but you can't say I'm claiming NUMA node 0 and 3, and pinning CPUs 1-4 and 4-8 | 07:20 |
| artom | So we'll need claims on the compute node regardless, even in the distance future when placement starts doing NUMA for us | 07:20 |
| artom | Because for NUMA we need to know *which* specific resources are being claimed, not just how many | 07:21 |
| artom | The mellanox guys want to do live migration with SRIOV, and they have the same problem | 07:21 |
| artom | I'll continue updating the spec, and them, if you're willing, come back with a more concrete list of questions than just "HALP!!11" | 07:22 |
| sahid | so basically i would say first you will have to update hardware.fit_instance_to_host() to work with placement | 07:23 |
| sahid | well actually i have some doubt you can achieve that work with placement right now | 07:24 |
| artom | Well, the conversion of hardware/resource_tracker to use placement will come later, for now there isn't even a spec for Stein for NUMA RPs in placement (though Sylvain did have one proposed for Rocky) | 07:25 |
| artom | sahid, yeah, it's for later, the pieces aren't in placement yet | 07:25 |
| sahid | ok so i would say forget about placement, we will be able to update our code at time | 07:25 |
| artom | I need to bite the bullet and work with the claim context | 07:25 |
| sahid | yes you should make this working for claim using resource_tracker | 07:26 |
| artom | Which I've been desperately trying to avoid, but I don't think there's a way around it :( | 07:26 |
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| gmann | mriedem there was issue on making 'security_groups' field optional. fixed it now. ^^. i will fix api-ref for later where 'security_groups' filed is not mentioned optional in server response. | 10:35 |
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| mriedem | lyarwood: dansmith: can i get your eyes on the rocky backport of the fix for the 3rd party ci failures https://review.openstack.org/#/c/600464/ | 15:25 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: you should review this spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/600608/ and https://review.openstack.org/600613 - they were osic specs previously approved in pike so you'd probably have the best context on those | 16:15 |
| mriedem | per-instance live migration timeout | 16:15 |
| mriedem | cfriesen: you too for starlingx has some similar functionality ^ | 16:16 |
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| cfriesen | mriedem_bbq: will take a look | 17:10 |
| cfriesen | mriedem_bbq: oh man, I thought that got sorted out a couple releases back. guess not. | 17:11 |
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| dansmith | mriedem_bbq: did you want me to put my money in place of my mouth on this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/600085/ | 17:22 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: i can update it, unless you're looking to poke on it | 17:54 |
| mriedem | was doing spec reviews before the ptg | 17:54 |
| mriedem | trying to anyway | 17:54 |
| dansmith | I'm happy for you to do it, I just wasn't sure if you were expecting me to | 17:59 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: Kevin_Zheng: dansmith: ^ cleaned up and modernized with context since it's been awhile since ocata GA | 18:18 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: sorry, I was busy shoveling poo on leakypipes' pet-loving transfer ownership spec | 18:27 |
| dansmith | let it be known henceforth that leakypipes loves pets and will be up for helping with future BFV hardening | 18:27 |
| mriedem | that guy, he does love pets | 18:27 |
| mriedem | and bfv i've heard | 18:27 |
| mriedem | haha | 18:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Fix formatting in changes-since guide https://review.openstack.org/600150 | 18:30 |
| leakypipes | dansmith: I don't see how wanting to allow nova to participate in the multi-service task of transferring ownership of an instance is similar to BFV. | 18:31 |
| dansmith | leakypipes: I was referring to the point of this being purely for pets | 18:32 |
| dansmith | BFV has uses outside the world of pets even | 18:32 |
| dansmith | but not this transfer thing | 18:32 |
| dansmith | that's pets pets pets | 18:32 |
| dansmith | PETS! | 18:32 |
| leakypipes | agreed. | 18:33 |
| leakypipes | pets exist, though. | 18:33 |
| dansmith | leakypipes: so before I will approve your spec, I will require some sort of public admission that you love pets, and that BFV has a place in this world | 18:33 |
| leakypipes | we've got 150 thousand of them. | 18:33 |
| dansmith | oh man, I can't wait to quote you the next time we're talking about something pet-based :D | 18:34 |
| dansmith | 2018, this happened: [11:33:32] <leakypipes>pets exist, though. | 18:34 |
| leakypipes | dansmith: I can publicly admit my desire to facilitate pet management. I shall never submit to your demand that BFV is a good idea, though. | 18:34 |
| leakypipes | :P | 18:34 |
| dansmith | that is not what I said | 18:35 |
| leakypipes | dansmith: if there were a different service that handled pets instead of ephemeral stuffs, I'd be proposing this spec at that project. But.... | 18:35 |
| dansmith | "has a place in this world" | 18:35 |
| leakypipes | oh, has a place in the world... ok, I might consider acquiescing to that. | 18:35 |
| dansmith | you'll have to. | 18:35 |
| leakypipes | bend a knee, huh? | 18:35 |
| dansmith | anyway, we can figure that all out once you scrape all the poo off it | 18:36 |
| dansmith | might need a picture on twitter sort of ting. | 18:36 |
| dansmith | mriedem and I can get a t-shirt made | 18:36 |
| leakypipes | I am indeed good at designing t-shirts, as you know. | 18:36 |
| dansmith | heh | 18:37 |
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| mriedem | i still have my shelve t-shirt design sitting around | 18:50 |
| mriedem | nova: shelving at the speed of business | 18:50 |
| mriedem | https://www.customink.com/designs/novashelve/scj0-00b6-zdmw/hotlink?pc=HL-142344&utm_campaign=hotlink_201601&utm_source=hotlink&utm_medium=email&utm_content=designback | 18:51 |
| mriedem | i'm just too f'ing cheap to get one made | 18:51 |
| mriedem | fwiw, our product people want the owner transfer thing as well. i sent them the spec and asked to get any feedback, yay or nay, but of course i haven't heard back. | 18:53 |
| mriedem | which is the hua-wei | 18:53 |
| mriedem | see what i did there? | 18:53 |
| * dansmith golf glaps | 18:53 | |
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| mriedem | Kevin_Zheng: ^ maybe you should kick some people locally to check jay's instance owner transfer spec | 18:53 |
| mriedem | since it sounds like dansmith loves it | 18:53 |
| dansmith | I know you want it and other people do too | 18:53 |
| dansmith | I'm just not really looking forward to the churn | 18:54 |
| mriedem | this spec is starting to sound like a dirty little secret | 18:54 |
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| leakypipes | dansmith: knee was bent. | 19:09 |
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