Friday, 2019-11-08

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openstackgerritmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Use wrapper class for NeutronFixture get_client  https://review.opendev.org/69345300:06
openstackgerritmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Use wrapper class for NeutronFixture get_client  https://review.opendev.org/69345300:08
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openstackgerritArchit Modi proposed openstack/nova stable/rocky: Revert "openstack server create" to "nova boot" in nova docs  https://review.opendev.org/69324000:26
openstackgerritArchit Modi proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Revert "openstack server create" to "nova boot" in nova docs  https://review.opendev.org/69323900:29
openstackgerritArchit Modi proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Revert "openstack server create" to "nova boot" in nova docs  https://review.opendev.org/69323600:30
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openstackgerritDustin Cowles proposed openstack/nova master: Provider Config File: Functions to merge provider configs to provider tree  https://review.opendev.org/67652200:45
openstackgerritDustin Cowles proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Provider Config File: Enable loading and merging of provider configs  https://review.opendev.org/69346000:45
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openstackgerritmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Use wrapper class for NeutronFixture get_client  https://review.opendev.org/69345300:49
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openstackgerritya.wang proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Re-propose expose-auto-converge-post-copy spec for Ussuri  https://review.opendev.org/68719901:23
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eanderssongibi_ptg, still having an minor issue with that patch03:05
eanderssonhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/a5269012a3b442a9e4055a7d523faff45f105f2b#diff-77f9348ab09642ba46409b6828af4af0R132703:05
eanderssonThat error message is thrown when an empty compute is restarted.03:05
eanderssonSince an empty compute has no allocations03:05
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gibi_ptgeandersson: could you please file a bug?04:05
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eanderssonSure gibi_ptg I'll do it tomorrow04:23
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gibi_ptgeandersson: thanks, I will try to look at it next week04:39
gibi_ptgmy brain is failing after all the ptg discussions04:39
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eanderssonNo worries - It's minor04:47
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openstackgerritmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Replace time.sleep(10) with service forced_down in tests  https://review.opendev.org/69225205:41
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gibi_ptgmelwitt: I'm +2 on ^^ thanks for fixing06:15
* gibi_ptg is free as nova finished the ptg but no brains for more than easy patches06:15
melwittthanks gibi_ptg. I wanted to delete that service.kill() too but was worried someone would complain it's not related xD06:16
melwitthaha, understandable06:16
gibi_ptgmelwitt: don't worry about that kill() call too much. It does not cause any trouble either06:20
* melwitt nods06:20
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Remove the TODO about using OSC for BFV in test_evacuate.sh  https://review.opendev.org/69340608:18
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kashyapsean-k-mooney: efried Just catching up with stuff after a week-ish of work travel.08:36
kashyapsean-k-mooney: On RNG: We have this patch sitting, and waiting for reviews: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/616603/ ("libvirt: Add a default Virtio RNG device to guests")08:37
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openstackgerritAkira KAMIO proposed openstack/nova master: VMware: disk_io_limits settings are not reflected when resize  https://review.opendev.org/68029611:48
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openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Remove native LUKS compat code  https://review.opendev.org/66912112:04
openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: compute: Take an instance.uuid lock when rebooting  https://review.opendev.org/67346312:04
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sean-k-mooneykashyap: can you rebase https://review.opendev.org/#/c/616603/9 on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/693210/112:54
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kashyapsean-k-mooney: Yeah, was rebasing locally on master; will do in a bit.  Doing paperwork now :-(12:55
sean-k-mooneyno worreis that patch just clean up the fact the rng code is called weridly via the qemu guest agent function12:55
sean-k-mooneyeven though they are completely unrelated12:55
kashyap(Nod)12:56
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openstackgerritArchit Modi proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Revert "openstack server create" to "nova boot" in nova docs  https://review.opendev.org/69323913:38
openstackgerritArchit Modi proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Revert "openstack server create" to "nova boot" in nova docs  https://review.opendev.org/69323613:39
openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: compute: Remove stale BDMs on reserve_block_device_name failure  https://review.opendev.org/68259413:40
openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: compute: Use long_rpc_timeout in reserve_block_device_name  https://review.opendev.org/69353713:40
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artomsean-k-mooney,  I have a Zuul quandry14:22
sean-k-mooneyoh how so14:22
artomIn https://review.opendev.org/#/c/691062/41/.zuul.yaml, I'm setting groups-vars for the peers group, which includes the compute14:22
artomSo for instance, WHITEBOX_SSH_USER_DIR14:22
sean-k-mooneywhy the peers group14:23
artomWhich do not get picked up on the compute host: https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/eeae2903b14c456793766e79efd6916d/log/compute/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#904814:23
sean-k-mooneythe whitebox plugin shoudl only need to be installed on teh contoler14:24
artomWe need it at least part of the setup to run on the compute host as well, for the SSH keys14:25
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artom'cuz by default tempest runs as the 'tempest' user and it can't SSH anywhere14:25
sean-k-mooneyok but  you could do the ssh key setup as an ansible task14:26
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sean-k-mooneyanyway so just trying to understand what proably you are hitting14:27
sean-k-mooneyyou are not seeing the values take effect14:27
artomI guess I could eh?14:27
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artomNo, they're not being set14:27
sean-k-mooneynormaly we use subnode for devstack stuf14:27
sean-k-mooneypeers is only used to set up a vxlan tunnel between teh nodes14:27
artomShould it matter? As long as the 'compute' node is in the group, which it is...14:28
artomI'm using your own node definitions from your multi nfv job :)14:28
sean-k-mooneyit depends on how the ansible roles is written14:28
sean-k-mooneyyes and i alsye used subnode not peer14:28
sean-k-mooney*always14:29
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artomOne argument against using Ansible is that paramiko is finicky as fsck for its keys14:30
sean-k-mooneyby the way we only want the nodeset to be defiend in onepalce14:30
sean-k-mooneyim not sure about that14:30
sean-k-mooneyi have never had issues  using keys creates with ssh-keygen14:30
artomWell, maybe newer versions14:31
artomBut we're using 2.6.0 in the gate14:31
sean-k-mooneyolder version fo ansibel are fine too14:31
artomI'm kinda scared of going back14:31
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artomSee, the exception that it gives has no bearing on reality, and I just discovered that recently14:32
artomFailure to auth makes it throw a "not a valid OpenSSH key" exception14:32
artomSo maybe you're right, and I was lead astray by that14:32
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artomThe real problem being authrozied_keys wasn't in place properly or something14:32
sean-k-mooneyya likely14:33
sean-k-mooneyby the way are you are that you can see the renderd inventory in the job output14:33
sean-k-mooneyhttps://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/eeae2903b14c456793766e79efd6916d/log/zuul-info/inventory.yaml14:33
sean-k-mooneyartom: i think the problem is the subnodes devstack_localrc14:34
sean-k-mooneyis being used instead of peers14:34
sean-k-mooneywhich is why i used subnode in my jobs14:34
sean-k-mooneyif you use subnode it will merge the section form the parent and the ones in your job14:35
sean-k-mooneywith your definition taking precidence14:35
artomsean-k-mooney, oh, thanks!14:37
artomUgh, I know in my heart that ansible is the right way to do it14:37
artomBut I really don't want to revisit that14:38
mriedemsean-k-mooney: you might have thoughts on helping the person in the mailing list trying to live migrate a vm between different ml2 backends on rocky which should be using the port binding stuff14:38
sean-k-mooneyjust move the bits and you can leave devstack do it14:38
mriedemi realize we don't have any troubleshooting docs for that14:38
sean-k-mooneymriedem: i had not seen that but ill take a look.14:39
sean-k-mooneyit does not really work that well14:39
sean-k-mooneythere are still some gaps i think14:39
sean-k-mooneyit shoudl work betwwen thigns like ml2/odl and ml2/ovs14:40
mriedemi'm pretty sure you identified several gaps at the denver ptg after rocky which are still open14:40
sean-k-mooneyya i think we adressed 1 or two14:40
mriedeme.. https://review.opendev.org/#/c/594527/14:40
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sean-k-mooneyya that was how we found that14:41
sean-k-mooneyif your going between linux bridge and ovs there as also an issue where we were not passing hte bridge name14:41
sean-k-mooneyand a few other minor things14:41
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dansmithlyarwood: have we not moved to using the qemu-integrated iscsi driver yet? I was thinking we had14:46
lyarwooddansmith: nope, I actually nuked the code for that a while ago as nothing was using it.14:47
dansmithhuh, okay14:47
lyarwooddansmith: the original implentation was pretty bad, I've got a note to look at reintroducing it if there was a need somewhere.14:47
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lyarwoodhttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/668750/14:48
dansmithI thought we were supposed to be moving towards it because it's vastly better and simpler than attaching those to the host14:48
lyarwood^ was the removal btw14:48
dansmithah recent14:49
lyarwoodit has been a long 4 months downstream ^_^14:49
lyarwooddansmith: what prompted your question btw?14:49
dansmithlyarwood: this volume cache spec that I don't like14:50
mriedemi got tim bell's attention https://review.opendev.org/#/c/566473/14:50
lyarwoodah14:50
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sean-k-mooneymriedem: it would be nice to see teh pending state become a thing and the reaper service either become a nova deliverable in its own repo or be broght in tree14:54
mriedemdouble wrong14:54
sean-k-mooneyno?14:54
mriedemfirst, you have to do what i said in there and land the rebuilding from cell0 piece14:54
mriedemignore pending for now14:55
mriedemsecond, there was agreement that the reaper thing would be external to nova so we didn't need to own it14:55
mriedemthat's what the notifications are for14:55
sean-k-mooneyoh i taught that was already landed14:55
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sean-k-mooneyoh ok14:55
mriedem1. build fails, goes to cell0, send notification. 2. external service consumes notification, purges spot instances based on it's own policy that nova doesn't care about, 3. external service triggers rebuild from cell0 on non-spot instance14:56
sean-k-mooneywell it would nice to be able to do premtiable isntance with openstack14:56
mriedemsure, i agree :)14:56
sean-k-mooneyi guess i dont mind if its in or out of nova ownership14:56
mriedemotherwise i wouldn't have spent time reviewing it14:56
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mriedembut it's also complicated enough that unless a core takes it over, it can't just be a thing thrown over the wall that gets worked on 1 day a week14:57
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sean-k-mooneyya, internally it would proably still land on the compute team to manage at redhat14:58
mriedemwith all the SIG hoopla and people that want stuff, there is always a laughable amount of effort put into a more than half day per week developer to push things14:58
mriedemi'm not blaming theo, he did what he could and i'm sure he had other priorities downstream, especially since they already had that running in production14:58
sean-k-mooneyout of interest this was started around or before placement was a thing right14:59
sean-k-mooneydo the premtiable instace actully get modeled in placemnet?15:00
sean-k-mooneyim just wondering how it woudl interact with unified limits15:00
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sean-k-mooneythey proably do have allocation as normal but i dont think they current unified lmits proposal could partion the quotas based on normal instance or premtiable at least at present15:02
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sean-k-mooneyi think the workaound for that was to have a seperate project for each15:03
mriedemdon't know, been talking about spot instances and placement forever15:04
mriedemand spot instances has changed many times over the years15:04
mriedemdoesn't really matter to us (nova) because the reaper is external and that's why we want it external15:04
mriedemit's on the external service to define what the policy is15:04
mriedembtw, if red hat were to take this over, at least the rebuild from cell0 part, i think melwitt would be a good person to take that over, since she's at least familiar with the spec15:05
mriedema lot of that piece is really just stuff that overlaps with the cross-cell work, which is moving data between cells and a buttload of testing15:06
melwittefried: fyi gibi_ptg's +2 on func test sleep removal now https://review.opendev.org/69225215:06
efriedmelwitt: ack, should get to that before lunch.15:06
mriedemmelwitt: can you rev the bug on that to be bug 1783565?15:07
openstackbug 1783565 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "ServerGroupTestV21.test_evacuate_with_anti_affinity_no_valid_host intermittently fails with "Instance compute service state on host2 expected to be down, but it was up."" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178356515:07
mriedemyour new one is a dupe15:07
melwittah dangit15:08
melwittI didn't know there was already a bug related to that15:08
melwittok let me update15:08
mriedemi think i pointed it out in your functional test that changed from sleep to use the oslo stuff, but sure :)15:08
melwittyou did but it didn't register in my brain somehow15:09
mriedemit was pre-halloween so i only speak in riddles15:09
mriedemtake a peek at this patch, it holds the key to the answers you seek15:09
mriedem*smoke bomb*15:09
melwittlol15:10
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melwittmriedem: hey, that patch is mine, not gibi_ptg's (lp comment) :P15:13
openstackgerritmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Replace time.sleep(10) with service forced_down in tests  https://review.opendev.org/69225215:14
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dansmithlyarwood: do you know anything about how bcache actually works?15:15
mriedemmelwitt: oh heh, i saw you said gibi above so assumed it was his15:16
melwittI said he was +2 on it15:16
mriedemyeah, sorry15:16
mriedemcommented in lp for posterity15:16
melwittyesss15:16
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lyarwooddansmith: nope not bcache or CAS tbh15:21
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dansmithlyarwood: well, CAS is six months old and just exists as source to create kernel modules, so I assume we can ignore that15:22
dansmithlyarwood: bcache requires a specially-formatted backing device.. it's not transparent15:22
dansmithlyarwood: meaning brick would have to *convert* your volume before hooking it up under bcache, and then apparently it's difficult to reverse if you attach that volume elsewhere that isn't using bcache15:23
dansmithwhich to me makes it nearly useless for nova15:23
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melwittseems like the gate is back to being angry again15:32
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mriedemefried: i did my professional sleuthing on that arcane NOTE in the resource tracker https://review.opendev.org/#/c/693435/ - let me know if you want me to just address those comments inline or follow up15:42
mriedemtl;dr the note should be removed15:42
efriedack, thanks.15:44
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/rocky: doc: fix and clarify --block-device usage in user docs  https://review.opendev.org/69355415:48
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/rocky: doc: fix and clarify --block-device usage in user docs  https://review.opendev.org/69355415:49
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/rocky: Revert "openstack server create" to "nova boot" in nova docs  https://review.opendev.org/69324015:49
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lyarwooddansmith: sorry calls-- , agreed on CAS, seems like it's the main driver behind Intel looking into this even if it's brand spanking new.15:58
lyarwooddansmith: eww okay so bcache also wouldn't work15:58
dansmithlyarwood: yes, another "sell more hardware" feature for nova for sure:/15:59
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dansmithlyarwood: yeah, so I think the only way to do this reasonably is with CAS, which is crazy new and unproven, would require compiling kernel modules from source, etc16:00
mriedemwhen is the last time zvm or powervm ci actually reported and worked? is it time for a warning log on startup of those drivers?16:00
lyarwooddansmith: isn't dm-cache also an option here?16:00
dansmithlyarwood: I love their FAQ page which says "Why do filesystem benchmark tools report that there is disk corruption? Oh don't worry about those silly errors!"16:00
lyarwoodL O L16:00
dansmithlyarwood: not AFAIK, see my comments16:00
dansmithlyarwood: dm-cache is static partitioning only as far as I know.. i.e. one cache device per block device to be cached16:01
lyarwooddansmith: ack16:02
mriedemoh i see a recent zvm ci job, took 2 hours, failed16:02
dansmithmriedem: no (real) changes to either of them in 2019 either, as far as I can tell. I bet that doesn't mean "they just work and have happy customers" either :)16:03
efriedmriedem: +2 but prefer fix-here16:03
dansmiththe most recent change to zvm was "add get console support" which was part of the original set of work, IIRC, from feb 201816:04
mriedemhuh zvm ci passed on an earlier patch set in the same change, the latter ps ci failure was due to ssh failing on some guests16:04
mriedemi'm surprised they even enable ssh validatoin in their tempest runs16:04
mriedemyeah zvm in tree is mostly not a usable driver16:04
mriedemcreate, get console, destroy16:04
dansmithyeah16:04
dansmithI believe I called that as abandonware before we merged :)16:05
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mriedemefried: i can do it in there, it just means rebasing and pushing the other 3 changes on top as well16:05
mriedemwhich likely means i'll be doing rechecks16:05
efriedoh16:06
efriedthen I guess fup it16:06
efriedunless it waits too long to get another +216:06
mriedemyeah if i have to resolve a merge conflict obviously i'd fix there, but i'll fup for now16:06
mriedemdansmith: you just still have s390x ptsd from your early days16:07
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mriedemremember, they were doing virtualization since before it was hip16:07
dansmithno, I have ptsd from all of ibm's drivers16:07
melwittmriedem: we had to ask them to enable ssh validation bc otherwise their config drive stuff could not be tested16:07
mriedemmelwitt: ah that's right16:07
* melwitt bbl16:08
mriedemthe powervm driver in tree can at least do some things, but i haven't seen ci working for it in years16:08
mriedemlooks like maintenance of the out of tree driver has basically been farmed out https://github.com/openstack/nova-powervm/commits/master16:09
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Replace time.sleep(10) with service forced_down in tests  https://review.opendev.org/69225216:14
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: FUP for Ib62ac0b692eb92a2ed364ec9f486ded05def39ad  https://review.opendev.org/69355616:16
openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: compute: Use long_rpc_timeout in reserve_block_device_name  https://review.opendev.org/69353716:20
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Convert nova-live-migration job to zuulv3  https://review.opendev.org/69336416:22
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove service_uuids_online_data_migration  https://review.opendev.org/69342116:39
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sean-k-mooneymriedem: i filed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1761864 to track adding support for it at somepoint but its in our backlog and not prioritised yet.16:51
openstackbugzilla.redhat.com bug 1761864 in openstack-nova "[RFE] Preemtable Instances" [High,New] - Assigned to smooney16:51
sean-k-mooneyactully that should not have an assignee16:52
sean-k-mooneydansmith: bcache is pretty stable16:53
sean-k-mooneydansmith: i have been using it for years16:53
dansmithsean-k-mooney: didn't say it wasn't16:53
sean-k-mooneytrue16:54
sean-k-mooneyvs dm-cache i found bcache more flexible16:54
dansmithyup16:54
sean-k-mooneydm-cache also has a longer warmup time but when both caches are hot they perform about the same16:55
sean-k-mooneythe bcache dev has moved on to make a bcache file system.16:55
sean-k-mooneybcache is still mainatined upstream in the kernel but they change there focus because tehy though it was feature complete16:56
sean-k-mooneyhttps://bcachefs.org/16:56
sean-k-mooneyi would not really use ^ if you like your data yet16:57
sean-k-mooneydansmith: what was the context for the bcache disucssion?16:58
sean-k-mooneyis someone asking us to use it to cache remote volumes?16:58
dansmithsean-k-mooney: the spec proposed for volume caching16:59
sean-k-mooneyah that might work for isci volumes16:59
sean-k-mooneywe mount those via the kernel right?16:59
sean-k-mooneyrather then natively in qemu17:00
dansmithit won't, IMHO, because bcache requires the volumes to be a special format, AFAICT17:00
dansmithwhich is in the backscroll and the comments on that spec17:00
sean-k-mooneyoh right so it did not requrie that orginally17:01
sean-k-mooneybut the current version i think require teh backing volume to be converted17:01
dansmiththeir pre-merge docs all talk about it, so it's been that way for quite a while17:01
dansmithbut..yeah17:01
sean-k-mooneywell when i first used bcache a few years ago they allowed you to cache an existing volume17:02
sean-k-mooneybut they remove that as it lead to data curruption in some cases i think17:02
sean-k-mooneythe idea of having fast local storage cache network volumes does have merrit but ya its hard to get right17:03
sean-k-mooneythis spec right https://review.opendev.org/#/c/689070/2/specs/ussuri/approved/support-volume-local-cache.rst17:04
dansmithsean-k-mooney: doesn't work for multi-attach, or rbd, or the future where we use qemu-integrated iscsi, and can be done inside the guest with local ssd ephemeral disks17:05
dansmithbut yes, I understand caching and why it's desirable17:05
dansmithyes, that's the spec17:05
sean-k-mooneyya just looking at the spec now17:05
sean-k-mooneya better way to arrpoch this woudl be to add a feature to qemu/libvirt17:05
sean-k-mooneyso that we could tell qemu to use a device as a cache for another17:06
dansmithsean-k-mooney: yep, but the spec is actually "sell moar intel SSDs through new feature for obscure brand new opensource caching project"17:08
sean-k-mooneyfunnaily enough i just baught one of those ssds to use a a bcache device in front of the raid5 i use for my cinder lvm backend17:09
mriedemhardware nerd alert17:10
* mriedem goes to crank the tran shaft on his chassis axle17:10
sean-k-mooneyhehe it helps hide that my vms are on spinning rust and with random io but its not ssd speed by any means17:11
mriedemyou mean you haven't gone plaid yet?17:11
sean-k-mooneyplaid ? as in the shirt matail or intels  3d cross point17:12
sean-k-mooneyaka optane17:12
mriedemas in spaceballs17:12
mriedemhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk7VWcuVOf017:12
sean-k-mooneyha i should really watch that sometime17:14
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mriedem"emergency stop - never use"17:15
mriedemclassic17:15
mriedemit's like software17:15
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mriedemgate bug fun https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/185187117:58
openstackLaunchpad bug 1851871 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Functional tests intermittently fail with "TypeError: Can't upgrade a READER transaction to a WRITER mid-transaction" during service destroy" [Undecided,New]17:58
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Use admin neutron client to see if instance has qos ports  https://review.opendev.org/69190021:16
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efriedokay, where do I get a VM image I can actually do something with?22:29
efriedlike run python22:29
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efriedjroll: I'm off PoCing vTPM and am at the point where it would be nice to be able to run $test_program that uses one so I can tell if it's "working". Before I go trying to hack something together (and wind up not even knowing whether it's doing what it's supposed to) do you (or could you obtain/create) something easy?22:42
efriedThe "hello world" of tpm22:42
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