| sean-k-mooney | we shoudl not put the instance in error state because we were not able to get the diagnositcs right | 00:00 |
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| eandersson | sure this would only be for the scheduling event | 00:00 |
| eandersson | since mandatory is per message not per queue | 00:00 |
| sean-k-mooney | its per type of rpc call we do | 00:01 |
| sean-k-mooney | e.g. you set it in your argmuent to send | 00:01 |
| sean-k-mooney | if we pass mandaroy on all topic sends then we woudl ahve to deally with it constently for ever api action that needs to call the compute node | 00:02 |
| sean-k-mooney | if we dont set it gloably for all topic sends we need to consdider how to handel the failure specific for each action | 00:03 |
| sean-k-mooney | eandersson: in the specifc case of server create. if the downcall form the condutor to the compute failed to send you would like us to retry the next compute node correct. | 00:06 |
| sean-k-mooney | if we set the instance to error at that point we would not retry | 00:07 |
| sean-k-mooney | if we did retry i think we would still want to incremetn the failed boot counter for the compute node so the BuildFailureWeigher can avoid that host and log an error at a minium | 00:09 |
| eandersson | Sorry stepping away again. Btw we got a ton of open positions if anyone wants to come and help me work on this stuff. :p | 00:09 |
| sean-k-mooney | no worries im about to call it a night anyway | 00:10 |
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| eandersson | Restart rmq and rebuilt it. Lets see if the issue goes away. | 02:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Boxiang Zhu proposed openstack/nova master: Fix live migration break group policy simultaneously https://review.opendev.org/651969 | 02:29 |
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| eandersson | sean-k-mooney yea I would prefer it to retry and write an error to the logs, but probably cleaner and easier to implement it to stop and put the instance into an ERROR'd state instead. | 03:24 |
| eandersson | I am gonna see if I can set up something like Terraform to better handle instances stuck in BUILDING | 03:25 |
| eandersson | I think out of the box it gets stuck in a weird state, but I am sure there is a way to have Terraform handle issues like this more gracefully. | 03:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sundar Nadathur proposed openstack/nova master: ksa auth conf and client for Cyborg access https://review.opendev.org/631242 | 09:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Sundar Nadathur proposed openstack/nova master: Add Cyborg device profile groups to request spec. https://review.opendev.org/631243 | 09:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Sundar Nadathur proposed openstack/nova master: Define Cyborg ARQ binding notification event. https://review.opendev.org/692707 | 09:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Sundar Nadathur proposed openstack/nova master: Create and bind Cyborg ARQs. https://review.opendev.org/631244 | 09:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Sundar Nadathur proposed openstack/nova master: Compose accelerator PCI devices into VM's domain XML. https://review.opendev.org/631245 | 09:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Sundar Nadathur proposed openstack/nova master: Delete ARQs for an instance when the instance is deleted. https://review.opendev.org/673735 | 09:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sundar Nadathur proposed openstack/nova master: Add cyborg tempest job. https://review.opendev.org/670999 | 09:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: nova-net: Remove remaining nova-network quotas https://review.opendev.org/697152 | 09:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: nova-net: Remove use of legacy 'FloatingIP' object https://review.opendev.org/697153 | 09:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: nova-net: Remove use of legacy 'Network' object https://review.opendev.org/697154 | 09:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: nova-net: Remove use of legacy 'SecurityGroup' object https://review.opendev.org/697155 | 09:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: nova-net: Remove unused nova-network objects https://review.opendev.org/697156 | 09:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: nova-net: Follow-up for I12a96ea659ed402cc4d1bd52a50e2e16042b6372 https://review.opendev.org/697252 | 09:57 |
| stephenfin | bauzas: Care to get some of that nova-net removal goodness in ya this morning? https://review.opendev.org/#/c/696503/ | 09:59 |
| bauzas | stephenfin: I could | 09:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova stable/rocky: block_device: Copy original volume_type when missing for snapshot based volumes https://review.opendev.org/697260 | 10:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: block_device: Copy original volume_type when missing for snapshot based volumes https://review.opendev.org/697261 | 10:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/nova master: Remove unused rootwrap filters https://review.opendev.org/697134 | 11:34 |
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| gibi | gmann: if you have time, this tempest fix would help with some of the tempest failures in CI https://review.opendev.org/#/c/682964 | 12:34 |
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| efried | o/ gibi stephenfin, lend me your ears for a moment? | 12:42 |
| gibi | efried: I'm here but expect me to dissapeare randomly as I'm at the doctor's waiting room | 12:43 |
| lyarwood | efried: I also think stephenfin is AFK at lunch at the moment btw | 12:44 |
| efried | okay, thanks, I'll just leave this here then: | 12:46 |
| efried | I'm working on this virtual TPM thing, trying to get the spec approved. | 12:46 |
| efried | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686804/ | 12:46 |
| efried | Dan helped me get it to this point, but doesn't like some of the remaining oddness around snapshot-related operations. | 12:46 |
| efried | However, he has implied that he won't stand in the way if others can get behind it. | 12:46 |
| efried | So... gibi and stephenfin, can you get behind it? | 12:46 |
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| gibi | efried: opened the spec. Let's see how ugly is the snapshot part | 12:47 |
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| efried | gibi: I can tldr it for you: | 12:55 |
| efried | The vTPM belongs to the instance, not the image. So you can't do things like createImage to clone the VM and expect the vTPM to be cloned. (IMO this is sensible. Don't copy my security stuff around, please.) | 12:55 |
| gibi | yeah that seems reasonable. Do not leak secrete data between clones | 12:57 |
| efried | Similarly, if you do a rebuild, you keep your vTPM; you don't get whatever came from the new image. | 12:57 |
| efried | Whatever's in the image might be expecting a given vTPM state that won't exist, but that's up to you to get right. | 12:58 |
| efried | In particular, we *do* save the vTPM state when you do createBackup | 12:58 |
| efried | So if you rebuild from that backup, we'll restore the vTPM as it existed at the point when you did the backup, which ought to maximize the chance that it's in the state the VM is expecting. | 12:59 |
| gibi | Can backups be used to clone a VM ? | 13:01 |
| efried | theoretically, yes, they do almost the same thing as createImage. | 13:01 |
| efried | Documentation would be the key here: If you're backing up, use createBackup; if you're cloning, use createImage. | 13:02 |
| efried | Which is what ops should be doing anyway, but I'm sure those get abused frequently today. | 13:02 |
| efried | I think createBackup tries to maintain one image at a time, deleting the previous one any time you create a new one. Otherwise it's not different than createImage. | 13:03 |
| gibi | I see | 13:03 |
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| efried | So the other two main quirks of concern are: | 13:05 |
| efried | - Evacuate doesn't restore your vTPM, sorry. | 13:05 |
| efried | - You have to do stuff as the instance owner. (IMO this is also good: my vTPM is secure stuff, I don't even want the admin to have access to it.) | 13:05 |
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| gibi | doesn't shared disk + evacuate could keep the vTMP file? or the vTPM file is somewhere far from the instance disk? | 13:06 |
| efried | the latter :( | 13:06 |
| efried | the vTPM is maintained by libvirt | 13:07 |
| efried | not in the instance | 13:07 |
| gibi | OK so it is some obscure location that the deployer won't share between compute hosts | 13:07 |
| efried | well | 13:07 |
| gibi | anyhow this could be a future improvement in libvirt + nova | 13:07 |
| efried | the location is well known (though I'm not sure there's a contract that it won't change at some point) | 13:07 |
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| efried | theoretically it may be possible for that directory to be shared | 13:07 |
| gibi | ack | 13:07 |
| efried | but that would be up to the deployer to figure out, and I'm not going to do anything in nova to try to support (or prevent) it. | 13:08 |
| gibi | sure | 13:08 |
| gibi | make sense | 13:08 |
| gibi | when you say "You have to do stuff as the instance owner" you mean nova needs to act in behalf of the instance owner to manage the vTPM or what is the stuff there? | 13:08 |
| efried | correct | 13:09 |
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| efried | Nova needs to unlock the vTPM by defining a secret to libvirt when the guest is created | 13:10 |
| efried | and, because security, the secret is owned by the instance owner; even the admin can't get at it. | 13:10 |
| gibi | does it mean that the admin cannot delet the VM either? | 13:11 |
| efried | Probably the most awkward of these areas is if you reboot the hypervisor, your VMs won't boot until the owner of the VM goes to boot them. | 13:11 |
| efried | Hm, interesting question. | 13:12 |
| efried | The admin won't be able to delete the secret in barbican, or the backup in swift | 13:12 |
| efried | but we don't have to make those error conditions. | 13:12 |
| efried | So the instance could still be destroyed, but those artifacts would be leaked in that case and the owner would have to go clean them up manually. | 13:12 |
| gibi | but then it means we leave junk around | 13:12 |
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| efried | I'm not too sure how barbican/swift work in that regard. Maybe policy allows admins to delete things even if they don't own them. I guess that would make sense. | 13:13 |
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| gibi | can we have some way out of this. I accep that the admin cannot read or write the vTPM data but cannot even delete when the user is potentially long gone? | 13:13 |
| efried | yeah, I don't know that answer. | 13:14 |
| gibi | ok, noting it down in the spec as question | 13:14 |
| efried | Note that the folks asking for this (VMG) aren't actually using barbican, they have their own home-grown key manager. | 13:14 |
| efried | So I imagine they would be able to control that aspect of things. | 13:15 |
| efried | I can find out whether swift has a similar policy capability. Thinking about it, I would imagine they do. It would only make sense that the admin, who could theoretically shut the whole thing down, should have the ability to delete individual bits, as long as they can't "see" them while they're doing it. | 13:16 |
| gibi | ack, that could be a way out | 13:17 |
| efried | Okay, so given all of that, do you think it is reasonable to support this thing, with proper documentation of these quirks? | 13:18 |
| gibi | the next step that the admin does is draining a compute to do some maintenance. I see that live migration works. that is good. It would be nice to have a way to cold migrate a VM even if it loses the vTPM data in the process | 13:18 |
| gibi | efried: I'm hesitant, as this is raw at the edges | 13:19 |
| gibi | let me go through the spec. | 13:19 |
| efried | cold migrate works | 13:19 |
| gibi | ohh | 13:19 |
| gibi | coolio | 13:19 |
| efried | and shelve/unshelve (which uses snapshots) so cross-cell resize also works. | 13:20 |
| gibi | OK. let me read the spec, but it seems workable at least. And an admin can only disable the feature by not configuring it in the nova conf | 13:21 |
| gibi | s/only/always/ | 13:21 |
| efried | yup | 13:22 |
| efried | thanks gibi | 13:23 |
| * efried ==> school run | 13:23 | |
| gibi | efried: have fun! | 13:23 |
| efried | enjoy your doc :) | 13:23 |
| gibi | ... a long queue ... | 13:23 |
| gibi | it is the 4th hour I'm queueing... | 13:24 |
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| efried | egads | 13:49 |
| efried | Does Hungary have a national health service like the UK? | 13:49 |
| gibi | yes, this is the type of service everyone gets automatically in Hungary | 13:50 |
| efried | I remember the UK NHS being notoriously slow like that. | 13:50 |
| sean-k-mooney | slow but free | 13:51 |
| sean-k-mooney | and good once you are seen | 13:51 |
| gibi | I have a private issurance but it does not cover this type of follow up I have to do after my surgery I had the beginning of this year | 13:52 |
| gibi | so I sit and wait | 13:52 |
| mriedem | efried: i've invalidated https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1855015 since the jobs i'm looking at aren't failures for the most part | 13:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1855015 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Intermittent fails in nova-next job with "Multiple possible networks found, use a Network ID to be more specific."" [Undecided,Invalid] | 13:53 |
| sean-k-mooney | efried: even without deleting the barbican key they can still do a vm delete right | 13:53 |
| mriedem | efried: there is a tempest test which is triggering the error in the api logs but the test handles the 400 response | 13:53 |
| sean-k-mooney | and ya most service allow admins to delete stuff even if they dont own it so i suspect barbican and swift can do the same | 13:53 |
| gibi | efried, mriedem there is a fix for the tempest multiple network conflict https://review.opendev.org/#/c/682964 | 13:54 |
| efried | good lord son, you posted two more comments and changed status while I was writing my response. | 13:54 |
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| mriedem | gotta be quick | 13:55 |
| efried | gibi: thanks, they told me about that in -neutron | 13:55 |
| efried | mriedem: okay if I reopen and mark as dup? | 13:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: nova-net: Remove use of legacy 'FloatingIP' object https://review.opendev.org/697153 | 13:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: nova-net: Remove use of legacy 'Network' object https://review.opendev.org/697154 | 13:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: nova-net: Remove use of legacy 'SecurityGroup' object https://review.opendev.org/697155 | 13:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: nova-net: Remove unused nova-network objects https://review.opendev.org/697156 | 13:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: nova-net: Follow-up for I12a96ea659ed402cc4d1bd52a50e2e16042b6372 https://review.opendev.org/697252 | 13:56 |
| efried | mriedem: unclear why it would be invalid. It caused at least three patches to fail that I was looking directly at. The rest I didn't check explicitly, but no reason to believe it would be different. | 13:56 |
| mriedem | dupe against what? | 13:57 |
| mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1844568 ? | 13:57 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1844568 in tempest "[compute] "create_test_server" if networks is undefined and more than one network is present" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 13:57 |
| efried | yes | 13:57 |
| mriedem | sure go ahead | 13:57 |
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| sean-k-mooney | stephenfin: has your changes to _wait_for_state_change already merged | 13:58 |
| gibi | efried: comments in https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686804 | 13:58 |
| stephenfin | sean-k-mooney: yes | 13:59 |
| sean-k-mooney | ok so i can drop the new class in that case but it means i have to do the rewite in the backport now | 13:59 |
| efried | stephenfin: did you see vTPM conversation from earlier? | 13:59 |
| stephenfin | I did not | 13:59 |
| efried | stephenfin: ~1h45m back | 14:00 |
| stephenfin | sean-k-mooney: You can...or you can just use the weird variant in the backports | 14:00 |
| sean-k-mooney | no that is what i mean | 14:00 |
| efried | 1h15, sorry | 14:00 |
| sean-k-mooney | i need to use the version that takes the expected state in master and then rewrite it to use the move from state in the backports | 14:00 |
| efried | gibi: thanks | 14:01 |
| stephenfin | sean-k-mooney: Yeah. It only needs to be done once though (the first backport) and should only result in 4 or 5 single line changes, I'd imagine | 14:01 |
| stephenfin | Not the end of the world | 14:01 |
| stephenfin | efried: Let me take a look after this meeting | 14:02 |
| sean-k-mooney | it might be more involed then that but ya ill rebase everythin against master tehn ill start updatign the changes to make the difference clear | 14:03 |
| openstackgerrit | sean mooney proposed openstack/nova master: Block rebuild when NUMA topology changed https://review.opendev.org/687957 | 14:03 |
| openstackgerrit | sean mooney proposed openstack/nova master: Disable NUMATopologyFilter on rebuild https://review.opendev.org/689861 | 14:03 |
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| sean-k-mooney | so that is just a rebase to master and ill work on the functional test changes now | 14:04 |
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| mriedem | i see our subunit parser failures are back on the rise | 14:15 |
| mriedem | looks like this blew up https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/d96bc0bfbb214661bcbb4b4e59b3d8bb/log/job-output.txt#3010 | 14:16 |
| efried | gdi | 14:17 |
| efried | has anyone considered fixing subunit? | 14:17 |
| sean-k-mooney | its not subunit its self | 14:17 |
| sean-k-mooney | its how stestr is using it | 14:17 |
| efried | has anyone considered fixing stestr? | 14:17 |
| sean-k-mooney | we are not fragmenting the packets properloy | 14:18 |
| efried | My point: It shouldn't be up to every consuming project to "not output so much" | 14:18 |
| sean-k-mooney | right well we could just use pytest to run things but some people object to that too | 14:18 |
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| efried | is this a mtreinish thing? | 14:19 |
| mriedem | well in this case something is obviously busted while this test is running | 14:20 |
| mriedem | one of the services is gone from the db for some reason, or the context it was using somehow - it's a multi-cell test so maybe it's looking in the wrong db | 14:20 |
| mriedem | so every 10 seconds when it reports it's state the service is not found | 14:20 |
| mriedem | and prints the traceback | 14:21 |
| mtreinish | efried: patches are more than welcome if you have a fix | 14:21 |
| sean-k-mooney | mtreinish: i think the issue is that its non triaival to figure out how stestr works to try and even start on the fix | 14:21 |
| mtreinish | sean-k-mooney: it's non trivial to figure out how subunit is working under the covers which is why I haven't had a fix for it yet | 14:22 |
| mtreinish | the stream handling code is really hairy and mostly leftover from testr | 14:23 |
| sean-k-mooney | mtreinish: ya i treied to look at the stestr code to figure out how the subunit stream was being created to figure out where to fragment the packet but i got lost | 14:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Implement cleanup_instance_network_on_host for neutron API https://review.opendev.org/697162 | 14:24 |
| sean-k-mooney | that was partly because i was lookig at 2 codebase i dont undersantd and as you said the code is kind of hairy | 14:24 |
| efried | okay, I wasn't criticizing you mtreinish, sorry if it came out that way. If you've already looked and it's "really hairy"... | 14:24 |
| sean-k-mooney | efried: i know stephenfin melwitt and i all tried to figuire this out before and gave up | 14:25 |
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| efried | I just remember several patches (from mriedem I think) that tried to chip away at the problem by reducing the amount of output from our tests. | 14:25 |
| mtreinish | yeah, also masayukig smcginnis and I also took a look into a couple years ago f2f at a summit and also gave up | 14:26 |
| efried | gah | 14:26 |
| mriedem | regardless of subunit/stestr i don't think our tests should be spewing out a buttload of random tracebacks | 14:26 |
| mriedem | masking that with fixing subunit/stestr somehow just papers over those issues | 14:26 |
| sean-k-mooney | so the simple solution is to just use pytest or a non subunit based test runner but there are perfromace impacts to doing that | 14:26 |
| mtreinish | I have a PR which should workaround it I think: https://github.com/mtreinish/stestr/pull/271 but it introduces other behavior changes and isn't ready yet (and would be an opt-in mode) | 14:27 |
| sean-k-mooney | mtreinish: playing with the schduleiing did help in the past. i notced that grouping by class helped to some extent | 14:28 |
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| mriedem | oslo_messaging.exceptions.MessagingTimeout: No reply on topic conductor weee | 14:29 |
| mriedem | we seem to have some fun eventlet issue in this failure as well | 14:29 |
| mriedem | https://gist.githubusercontent.com/mriedem/e01252253600abbef95045d73cfe2206/raw/67b6360c5766eb681cb3ad9e1901ff94fa152e98/gistfile1.txt | 14:31 |
| sean-k-mooney | and some db errors " WARNING [nova.compute.manager] Failed to revert task state for instance. Error: (sqlite3.OperationalError) no such table: instance_extra'" | 14:31 |
| mtreinish | which review # and job is the failure happening on? I can take another stab at fixing the issue | 14:32 |
| sean-k-mooney | https://review.opendev.org/697162 | 14:32 |
| mriedem | mtreinish: it's intermittent, we get all sorts of random stuff like this http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/#1813147 and then we squash them as they crop up | 14:33 |
| mriedem | the above gist is weird because the test is creating a server on compute1, the logs say it's ok, but the traceback looks like something is rescheduling to another host during build | 14:34 |
| sean-k-mooney | mtreinish: mriedem is not really changeing anything in that that would resonably cause those errors | 14:34 |
| sean-k-mooney | mriedem: could we be leaking some state betwween the different functional tests | 14:34 |
| sean-k-mooney | such that this fails only with some test orderings and passes with others | 14:35 |
| mriedem | yeah maybe but i don't see any other tests on the same worker that look like they would be doing reschedules | 14:35 |
| mriedem | anywho, recheck! | 14:36 |
| sean-k-mooney | that was why grouping the test execution by class work to "fix" the issue in the past. i ment we did not hit the issue due to how the test were run | 14:36 |
| mriedem | we could probably make that ServiceNotFound in the servicegroup api not a traceback so that if this fails again like this it doesn't blow up the subunit output parser | 14:36 |
| sean-k-mooney | we didnt merge that since we actully found the problem and fixed it in that case | 14:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Handle ServiceNotFound in DbDriver._report_state https://review.opendev.org/697301 | 14:53 |
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| dansmith | efried: despite the fact that I dropped some comments on the request group patch about the testing mess, I'm going to mostly depend on you to ack the placementy request-group-y bit of that before I look too closely | 15:40 |
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| efried | dansmith: ack. It might depend on my series here https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:use-placement-1.34 | 15:42 |
| Sundar | dansmith: Thanks for the super-quick reviews. | 15:43 |
| efried | but, having been looking at that stuff pretty closely for the past week, I ought to be able to provide reasonable guidance in that regard :) | 15:43 |
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| dansmith | Sundar: mmm, six hours later.. not super-quick :) | 15:44 |
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| Sundar | dansmith: I'll set higher standards for you going forward :P. | 15:45 |
| dansmith | Sundar: fair warning, I have this gut feeling that you're missing a bunch of test coverage, but I'm not in that phase of review yet, so I'm not nitpicking all the conditionals | 15:46 |
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| Sundar | dansmith: ack, will look more into that. | 15:47 |
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| stephenfin | mriedem: comment on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/697122/ | 15:49 |
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| stephenfin | Could I ask someone to go through the bottom few patches of the remove-nova-network series starting at [1]? There's a merge conflict coming and I'd rather not rebase/recheck the _entire_ queue [1] https://review.opendev.org/#/c/696503/ | 15:50 |
| efried | My understanding stephenfin: we need to backport it as it stands. Which means if your change merges first, the backport of this one will need to be different from the master version. | 15:50 |
| stephenfin | Yup, I get that. I'm tempted to suggest we just apply it against stable/train since it will soon be useless on master, but maybe that's a lot of work just to avoid some merge conflicts | 15:51 |
| stephenfin | (as in StableOnly) | 15:52 |
| efried | It won't be useless on master | 15:52 |
| efried | we still need to cache, which we're not doing | 15:52 |
| mriedem | stephenfin: replied | 15:52 |
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| stephenfin | mriedem: Good thing I asked :) | 15:53 |
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| mriedem | i think we need to just make the neutron SecurityGroupAPI a singleton | 15:54 |
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| mriedem | it doesn't have any state as far as i can tell | 15:54 |
| mriedem | unlike SchedulerReportClient which does have some state | 15:54 |
| efried | It must not have state, since we were able to cache it before with no ill effects | 15:55 |
| efried | unless the state was added in the interval when we had removed the caching. | 15:55 |
| mriedem | the neutron sg api you mean | 15:55 |
| stephenfin | Makes sense to me. I can rework that patch accordingly | 15:55 |
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| stephenfin | though I'll hold off for now since that queue is approaching x-cell resize size and will kill CI if pushed | 15:56 |
| stephenfin | RIP CI | 15:56 |
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| mriedem | the bottom 5 or so changes can use another core | 15:57 |
| stephenfin | mriedem: While I have you, is this the correct thing to do? https://review.opendev.org/#/c/697152/2/doc/api_samples/os-quota-class-sets/quota-classes-show-get-resp.json | 15:57 |
| stephenfin | I assume we don't support arbitrary quota classes so we can't modify the output for older microversions | 15:58 |
| stephenfin | ...meaning I have to fake those nova-net'y quotas rather than just dropping them | 15:58 |
| mriedem | i'm pretty sure we only support one quota class, 'default' | 15:58 |
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| stephenfin | sorry, arbitrary quotas...types? | 15:59 |
| mriedem | yeah you can't create random quota types | 15:59 |
| salmankhan | HI guys, I am facing an issue if someone can help. I upgraded the nova queens api from xenial to bionic and I am not able to see network info in "nova show" or "openstack server show" commands. However I can see the network details on dashboard or "nova interface-list" or "openstack port show" commands. Doesn't look like a database issue, but may be. If I reboot a instance there is no interface attached as well. What could be | 16:00 |
| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/schemas/quota_sets.py#L29 | 16:00 |
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| stephenfin | so I do have to keep them. okidok | 16:00 |
| mriedem | that said, i'm not sure about what you're doing there with just changing all the network quota values to -1 | 16:00 |
| stephenfin | that's what the noop driver was doing (unlimited) and those things are noops now | 16:01 |
| stephenfin | so... | 16:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Add QoS tempest config so bw tests run https://review.opendev.org/697180 | 16:01 |
| mriedem | the noop quota driver is just for testing | 16:02 |
| mriedem | or nfv single tenant i guess | 16:02 |
| mriedem | i agree that we can't just remove them from the responses and stuff without a microversion since it changes the schema | 16:02 |
| mriedem | we don't proxy enforcement of those to neutron at all do we? | 16:03 |
| mriedem | i know there was talk of doing that back in like havana | 16:03 |
| stephenfin | nope, they're dead | 16:03 |
| stephenfin | all DB model driven | 16:03 |
| mriedem | yeah, i mean the -1 is a lie because we're not enforcing those. we did deprecate them from the apis in 2.35 and 2.49 and they were a lie before if using neutron anyway - you could change security group rules quota to 500 in nova and it wouldn't apply to neutron | 16:05 |
| melwitt | re: the noop quota driver, I had thought that was the way for a deployment that doesn't care about quotas to bypass all the calculating (perf impact). so I was thinking not to remove it because of that. am I missing something? | 16:06 |
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| mriedem | how many deployments besides nfv single tenant don't care about quota? | 16:06 |
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| stephenfin | If -1 is a lie, what do I return instead? Just 0? | 16:08 |
| stephenfin | I have to return _something_ | 16:08 |
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| mriedem | it's all a lie is my point i think, so -1 is probably good enough | 16:10 |
| mriedem | i'm just not sure how clearly i'm thinking about this atm, or what alternatives there are | 16:11 |
| mriedem | i defer to dansmith | 16:11 |
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| mriedem | o-) | 16:11 |
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| dansmith | I don't know about quota things | 16:12 |
| dansmith | I defer to melwitt | 16:12 |
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| melwitt | I'll take a look at it | 16:15 |
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| salmankhan | Anyone??? HI guys, I am facing an issue if someone can help. I upgraded the nova queens api from xenial to bionic and I am not able to see network info in "nova show" or "openstack server show" commands. However I can see the network details on dashboard or "nova interface-list" or "openstack port show" commands. Doesn't look like a database issue, but may be. If I reboot a instance there is no interface attached as well. Wha | 16:15 |
| salmankhan | fine. | 16:15 |
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| mriedem | the instance network info cache is probably missing | 16:17 |
| salmankhan | how can it be fixed | 16:17 |
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| mriedem | check the instance_info_caches.network_info column for that instance | 16:18 |
| mriedem | on queens....i'm not sure | 16:18 |
| mriedem | there is a periodic that would heal it starting in i think stein | 16:18 |
| mriedem | see https://review.opendev.org/#/c/679274/ | 16:18 |
| mriedem | you could also take a look at this https://review.opendev.org/#/c/640516/ | 16:20 |
| mriedem | "If someone comes forward saying "yes this fixes a thing I'm hitting" then I'd be willing to restore it." | 16:20 |
| mriedem | that second patch won't help you on queens since it relies on the force_refresh kwarg from the previous patch | 16:21 |
| sean-k-mooney | mriedem: for what its worth we have backported only the periodic heal downstream | 16:21 |
| mriedem | super | 16:22 |
| sean-k-mooney | we did not backport the data migration | 16:22 |
| sean-k-mooney | because that caused other issues | 16:22 |
| mriedem | and canonical is going to as well it looks like | 16:22 |
| sean-k-mooney | we have it all the way back to newton at this point | 16:23 |
| sean-k-mooney | although we only did newton in the last month | 16:23 |
| salmankhan | So you saying apply this 679274, that could fix on queens? | 16:23 |
| sean-k-mooney | only if you have fixed teh underlying network issue | 16:24 |
| sean-k-mooney | this only happens if there was an external failure that casued the cache to be curropted | 16:24 |
| salmankhan | I messed up with neutron ports policy and that probably corrupted the cache, I think. | 16:25 |
| sean-k-mooney | yep that is one of the know ways to cause it | 16:25 |
| salmankhan | though I have fixed that policy | 16:25 |
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| sean-k-mooney | if the neutron policy.json is miss configured an empty list will be returned form neutron | 16:26 |
| sean-k-mooney | and then we update the caceh with that | 16:26 |
| sean-k-mooney | if that has been fixed the back can fix that | 16:26 |
| salmankhan | ok, :finger_crossed: going to apply 679274 and see. | 16:27 |
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| stephenfin | dansmith: Any idea what could cause this test to fail? https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/c598788184854780b2494a45b42a9718/console | 16:32 |
| stephenfin | (from https://review.opendev.org/697156) | 16:33 |
| dansmith | mucking around with the registry | 16:33 |
| dansmith | oh | 16:34 |
| stephenfin | I thought maybe I'd removed an object that was referenced from another object, but it doesn't seem like I have | 16:34 |
| dansmith | stephenfin: did you maybe remove or not register an object? | 16:34 |
| stephenfin | I removed objects, yes | 16:34 |
| stephenfin | But I've removed all references to those objects, fwict | 16:34 |
| dansmith | did you remove one that you didn't remove from the test_objects list of hashes? | 16:34 |
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| dansmith | unrelated to your failure, did we talk about removing objects already? | 16:35 |
| stephenfin | grep doesn't bring up any matches for the removed objects in 'nova/tests/unit/objects/' | 16:35 |
| stephenfin | I think so. You've to keep the DB models if it's persistent for a cycle or two, but the objects can go | 16:36 |
| stephenfin | I think... | 16:36 |
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| dansmith | so, removing these objects will mean that if anything sends us one over the wire, we will completely fail, | 16:37 |
| dansmith | and obviously things stop being able to run remotable methods if they're not upgraded | 16:38 |
| stephenfin | Then I will triple check, but I think the only thing that could have sent these over the wire was nova-network, and that has been non-functional for at least a cycle now | 16:38 |
| dansmith | stephenfin: no, I think api would send them in some cases wouldn't it? | 16:39 |
| dansmith | note I'm not saying we should keep them necessarily, just trying to think aloud | 16:39 |
| stephenfin | yup, I get ya. Checking now myself | 16:40 |
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| stephenfin | Yeah, leave it with me. I'll check my queue of patches and see if any of those objects could get through to the APIs. I'll state whatever I find in the commit message | 16:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: ironic: report a custom trait for the node owner https://review.opendev.org/697184 | 16:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Add node owner pre-filter https://review.opendev.org/697187 | 16:56 |
| mriedem | efried: i wrote a functional test for ^ and it shows what i suspected - traits aren't going to work | 16:56 |
| mriedem | not enough context | 16:56 |
| efried | mriedem: yeah, I was noodling that yesterday and I concur it would be pretty tough to do. | 16:57 |
| efried | mriedem: If you had a I_AM_IRONIC trait, and Placement had a ?required_if=CUSTOM_OWNER_XXX:I_AM_IRONIC syntax.... | 16:57 |
| * efried feeds | 16:57 | |
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| mriedem | and bingo bango you have metadata in placement :) | 16:58 |
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| sean-k-mooney | im pretty sure when i raised the idea of key:value traits in the past it was shot down pretty hard | 17:05 |
| dansmith | please god no | 17:10 |
| sean-k-mooney | yep that was the reaction back then too | 17:11 |
| efried | I was not seriously proposing that. | 17:18 |
| efried | forgot my /s | 17:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Add NodeOwnerFilter https://review.opendev.org/697331 | 17:26 |
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| salmankhan | sean-k-mooney: Thanks mate! This fix worked for me https://review.opendev.org/#/c/679274/ | 18:51 |
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| eandersson | Off topic but who do you poke to get Debian packages updated? | 18:58 |
| frickler | eandersson: zigo | 18:59 |
| eandersson | Thanks frickler | 18:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Spec: Ussuri: Encrypted Emulated Virtual TPM https://review.opendev.org/686804 | 19:13 |
| efried | gibi, stephenfin, sean-k-mooney: Thanks for those reviews. Hopefully addressed everything ^ | 19:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Add test coverage of existing admin_actions policies https://review.opendev.org/657698 | 19:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Add NodeOwnerFilter https://review.opendev.org/697331 | 19:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Introduce scope_types in Admin Actions https://review.opendev.org/657823 | 19:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/pike: Hook resource_tracker to remove stale node information https://review.opendev.org/676461 | 21:04 |
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