Wednesday, 2020-09-30

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openstackgerritwu.shiming proposed openstack/os-vif master: Fix hacking min version to 3.0.1  https://review.opendev.org/75516803:05
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ralonsohhi folks, do you know what is this message? https://a5e1b7092bd931de9d7c-99461a827f8c9e81159099d5f417814c.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/738163/21/check/neutron-ovn-tempest-full-multinode-ovs-master/462d24b/compute1/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt08:11
ralonsoh--> http://paste.openstack.org/show/798558/08:12
ralonsohsean-k-mooney, stephenfin ^^08:12
ralonsohif you know that08:12
lyarwoodbauzas: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/752486/ & https://review.opendev.org/#/c/749233/ & https://review.opendev.org/#/c/729178/ & https://review.opendev.org/#/c/744552/ - would you mind taking a look at these stable backports today if you have time?08:12
bauzaslyarwood: rushing to finish my talk recording this morning, hopefully would be able to review later today08:24
bauzas7 mins left for recording08:24
bauzasand I can't count the number of rushes i already had08:24
lyarwoodbauzas: ack np good luck!08:26
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fricklerralonsoh: that looks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1863021 but I assumed that that bug had long been fixed everywhere08:37
openstackLaunchpad bug 1863021 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "[SRU] eventlet monkey patch results in assert len(_active) == 1 AssertionError" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Chris MacNaughton (chris.macnaughton)08:37
fricklermaybe not in ovs?08:39
stephenfinralonsoh: frickler: Yeah, that should have been fixed with github.com/openstack/nova/commit/2078ef850c908:39
stephenfinalthough that's using a subprocess so maybe the fix is needed elsewhere08:39
ralonsohfrickler, stephenfin thanks a lot08:41
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add modernize-os-hypervisors-api spec  https://review.opendev.org/75510909:18
lyarwoodstephenfin: haha is that poop emoji supposed to be in there09:20
stephenfinyes09:20
lyarwoodhahaha09:20
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tobias-urdinlyarwood: can i borrow your brain for 2 minutes? :) trying to troubleshoot an issue, am i assuming correctly that for a volume-backed instance being resized, and scheduled to another node than it resides on, _is_storage_shared_with() would return false since (source host != dest host) and remotefs.create_dir() would be executed over a SSH connection even if it's volume-backed, so the code09:37
tobias-urdinpath is not only for instances with ephemeral disks09:37
tobias-urdinhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/train/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L986009:37
bauzasholy shit, 32 mins recorded for a 25 mins session /o\09:38
lyarwoodtobias-urdin: hey sure09:38
bauzasI need to reshot all my slides...09:38
tobias-urdini.e a resize with shared storage would still issue a SSH connection to the destination compute (from the source compute) to create the instance basepath in /var/lib/nova/instances/<uuid>09:38
bauzasChristopher Nolan, be aware I'm coming09:38
lyarwoodtobias-urdin: yeah even with volume backed instances we still have to copy some instance files over to the dest09:39
tobias-urdinin theory, if we were to implement a RPC call to create those instance files on dest we could, if all storage is shared, drop the requirement of SSH between compute nodes source -> dest?09:40
lyarwoodtobias-urdin: yes we could move this up into the compute layer, this is just legacy cruft in the driver that no one has wanted to change09:40
tobias-urdinlyarwood: roger that, thanks for confirming for a confused brain :)09:41
lyarwoodtobias-urdin: it would take a spec however as it will likely impact a few virt drivers doing the same kind of thing in migrate_disk_and_power_off09:42
lyarwoodtobias-urdin: or did you mean call the compute rpc_api from the libvirt driver instead of ssh?09:42
lyarwoodtobias-urdin: I don't think we've allowed that in the past09:43
lyarwoodtobias-urdin: but we could look into it again in W09:43
tobias-urdini see, either way just wanted to confirm since we were hitting issues with resizing between nodes, getting rid of ssh connection would be preferrable somehow09:44
fricklerbauzas: just play back at 32 fps instead of 25? ;)09:45
tobias-urdini assume that would mean abstracting away the action so that the manager does a rpc call to the destination host, which as you said would mean a change for all drivers to implement some new method to prepare the dest node (or not implement it at all if not needed)09:46
tobias-urdinlyarwood: appreciate it! not gonna steal more of your time :)09:46
lyarwoodyeah something like that, it would be easier to call from the virt driver but like I said there's no prior art for doing that and I think that's by design09:46
lyarwoodtobias-urdin: anytime!09:47
lyarwoodgmann / stephenfin: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/754684/ - would you mind hitting this btw?09:47
lyarwoodthanks09:52
openstackgerritWenping Song proposed openstack/nova master: Add instance project_id for cyborg arq  https://review.opendev.org/73842809:55
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sean-k-mooneytobias-urdin: you dont have to usee ssh for resize10:33
sean-k-mooneytobias-urdin: you can use rsync instead10:33
sean-k-mooneywe can also use an rpc instead fo the current test we use for detecting shared storage but that would require a spec/blueprint10:34
sean-k-mooneytobias-urdin: lyarwood alternitivly we could finally stop supporting implict shared storgage10:35
lyarwoodsean-k-mooney: doubt that would fly with operators10:35
sean-k-mooneye.g. if you put the nova state dir on shared storage you must set a config flag instead of detecting it10:35
lyarwoodsean-k-mooney: oh, well yeah that would be nicer10:36
sean-k-mooneyyep an ooo or whatever could set that10:36
lyarwoodalso TIL about [libvirt]/remote_filesystem_transport10:36
lyarwoodI didn't think rsync would support that10:36
sean-k-mooneyrsync can be used to copy the disk10:36
sean-k-mooneyi am not sure about the detection of the shared filesystem10:37
sean-k-mooneybut ya https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/cff7382fb3de4eef7aeddc34b6ae3409cbe50ea0/nova/virt/libvirt/volume/remotefs.py#L20110:37
lyarwoodyeah looks like it can also do that10:38
sean-k-mooneyoh cause it can create the file on the dest and see if it shows up on the source10:38
lyarwoodyeah10:38
lyarwoodhaha we create the dir and rsync it across, of course.10:38
sean-k-mooneytobias-urdin: what was you issue by the way i did not read all of scrollback10:40
lyarwoodI don't think there was an issue, he just wanted to drop the use of ssh10:41
sean-k-mooneyah ok10:41
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sean-k-mooneymnaser ask about the same about 2 weeks ago. e.g. could you drop ssh10:41
sean-k-mooneyi suggested an rpc at that time too although the config value occured to me after10:42
tobias-urdinsean-k-mooney: my deployment assumed that no ssh access was required and since our resize operations never changed the destination host in the past i never hit the ssh issue10:44
tobias-urdinand I was assuming ssh access was only needed when supporting ephemeral disks10:44
tobias-urdin(we run soley on cinder volumes and images_type=rbd backend)10:44
sean-k-mooneyi see10:46
sean-k-mooneyimages_type=rbd should not need this path10:46
sean-k-mooneywe know that is shared10:46
sean-k-mooneyso for that case we do not need to check10:46
tobias-urdinwhich is what i thought as well, apparantely not since resize fails trying to ssh to the destination host10:47
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sean-k-mooneywe dont support resizing across images_type10:47
tobias-urdini've been trying to follow the code path10:47
sean-k-mooneytobias-urdin: no i mean we can file a bug for that specific case10:47
sean-k-mooneyand we can fix that it should not be needed for rbd10:47
sean-k-mooneywe can just add an if around the call and check if the images type is knonw to be shared10:48
lyarwoodsean-k-mooney: just reading back, no we still need to check even with images_type=rbd10:50
tobias-urdinthat would be great, how can we determine if it's shared?10:50
sean-k-mooneylyarwood: why would we10:50
lyarwoodsean-k-mooney: the instance directory and instance storage being shared are two different things10:50
sean-k-mooneylyarwood: we have never supported resizing between host with different backends10:50
sean-k-mooneylyarwood: oh ya your right10:50
sean-k-mooneylyarwood: actully didnt we skip this and revert it for rbd before10:51
lyarwoodyeah10:51
lyarwoodit's checking again now10:51
lyarwoodas the skip broke when the instance directory wasn't shared10:51
sean-k-mooneyya10:51
sean-k-mooneyis there anything in the instance directory we care about by the way10:52
sean-k-mooneyconfig drive maybe?10:52
lyarwoodyeah that the console log10:52
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sean-k-mooneythe console log not really10:52
lyarwoodand maybe other things, I forget10:52
sean-k-mooneyit will be cleared when the vm is started again10:52
lyarwoodright but this path is also used during LM10:52
sean-k-mooneyah ok10:53
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sean-k-mooneyya so config option of rpc are the only things we can do then10:53
sean-k-mooneywell in the rbd case there is one other thing we could do but its a bit of a hack10:54
sean-k-mooneymount the instance dir in an rbd volumn10:54
sean-k-mooneyor on cephfs but nova doing that is a bit of a hack10:55
sean-k-mooneyits really something the installer should do10:55
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lyarwoodsean-k-mooney: yeah this is all just debt from the early days of Nova10:59
lyarwoodsean-k-mooney: we could rework this now or just live with it10:59
noonedeadpunkhey everyone! question: is it possible that during resize siolated aggregates are just ignored?11:07
noonedeadpunkas I have a host which is in the isolated agrregate, and vm's are not created on it. but, during vm resize it catched it...11:08
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noonedeadpunkit's on train though11:08
ralonsohfrickler, sorry again. What do you mean with "not in ovs"?11:09
ralonsohrelated to http://paste.openstack.org/show/798558/11:09
ralonsohmaybe I'm wrong but this command is executed from nova-compute11:10
ralonsohI checked oslo_concurrency but this is just a library and fix should be in nova too11:10
sean-k-mooneynoonedeadpunk: i dont think it should change the behavior11:11
sean-k-mooneynoonedeadpunk: which form of isolated aggreates are you using11:11
sean-k-mooneynoonedeadpunk: tenant isolation or the placement/traits based isolated aggreates11:11
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noonedeadpunkplacement traits11:12
noonedeadpunkbut once you said that...11:12
sean-k-mooneywe shoudl be using the traits request form the new flavor11:12
noonedeadpunkhow can I make tenant isolation?:)11:12
noonedeadpunkso right now aggregate looks like this in nova http://paste.openstack.org/show/798568/11:13
sean-k-mooneyhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/filters/aggregate_multitenancy_isolation.py11:13
noonedeadpunkand no flavors or images have this trait set..11:13
sean-k-mooneyralonsoh: that traceback i think is an eventlet issue11:13
ralonsohsean-k-mooney, yes, related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/186302111:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1863021 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "[SRU] eventlet monkey patch results in assert len(_active) == 1 AssertionError" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Chris MacNaughton (chris.macnaughton)11:14
ralonsohbut that should be already fixed in Nova11:14
noonedeadpunksean-k-mooney: I guess tenant aggregation will allow other tenants to create instances in this aggregate?11:14
sean-k-mooneyralonsoh: ya so the approch they are takign to fix it is a hack11:14
noonedeadpunk*tenant isolation11:14
sean-k-mooneyralonsoh: the real fix is to fix eventlets11:14
ralonsohsean-k-mooney, I know, but works for now11:15
ralonsohsean-k-mooney, what I don't understand is why this is failing when calling processutils.execute11:15
sean-k-mooneyralonsoh: because olso need to be fixed11:15
ralonsohsean-k-mooney, but this is just a library11:15
sean-k-mooneyralonsoh: im pretty sure i sent an email about this a few months ago11:16
sean-k-mooneyralonsoh: yes11:16
ralonsohsean-k-mooney, sorry, I don't get it11:16
sean-k-mooneyralonsoh: this need to be fixed in the libs too11:16
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sean-k-mooneywe use processutils.execute comes form oslo11:16
ralonsohsean-k-mooney, but, and I could be wrong, when we call .execute, the fix is called11:16
ralonsohwe are calling this from a monkey patched process with the "fix"11:17
sean-k-mooneynot if its executed via privsep11:17
ralonsohoh my...11:17
ralonsohok, got it!!!11:17
sean-k-mooneynoonedeadpunk: you enabled the placment prefilter for this in the nova.conf too right11:17
sean-k-mooneynoonedeadpunk: https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/configuration/config.html#scheduler.enable_isolated_aggregate_filtering11:19
noonedeadpunksean-k-mooney: I think I just set `enable_isolated_aggregate_filtering`11:19
noonedeadpunkyeah11:19
noonedeadpunkand actually VMs are not created on host. the only one which is wrong placed for the last month is this one11:19
sean-k-mooneynoonedeadpunk: by the way you can also do tenant isolation with placement too11:20
noonedeadpunkwhich was spawned there after resize11:20
sean-k-mooneynoonedeadpunk: did you way your using train11:20
noonedeadpunksorry didn't get the question:(11:21
sean-k-mooneywhat release are you running train?11:21
sean-k-mooneyi start typeing "by the way are you using train" the swaped to "did you say your using train" in my head and type a mix of the two hehe11:22
sean-k-mooneythere is nothing here that is resize specific11:23
sean-k-mooneyhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/train/nova/scheduler/request_filter.py#L31-L8811:23
noonedeadpunkit's a... 20.2.1.dev1, which to be exact 118ee682571a4bd41c8009dbe2e47fdd1f85a63011:23
sean-k-mooneynoonedeadpunk: can you check for that "'Request filter %r took %.1f seconds'," debug message if you have debug logs11:24
sean-k-mooneythe simpelst way to check would be to boot a vm and set the schduler into debug mode then resize it11:24
sean-k-mooneyand confirm the isolate_aggregates prefilter is run11:25
sean-k-mooneybut they shoudl all be run https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/train/nova/scheduler/request_filter.py#L221-L23711:25
noonedeadpunksean-k-mooney: I thiink I have only info level, not debug one...11:34
sean-k-mooneythats ok. with a quick look i dont see any reason that it woudl be skipped11:34
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noonedeadpunkI see...11:34
sean-k-mooneyif it is being skipped for some reason then a functional test should be able to repoduces it11:35
sean-k-mooneythis logic should be driver independent11:36
noonedeadpunkhave the same ALL_REQUEST_FILTERS here11:38
noonedeadpunksean-k-mooney: ok, thanks for your help, will try to reproduce it and catch logs11:39
sean-k-mooneyif you do feel free to file a bug with the steps. we shoudl be able to trun it into a functional regression test and then fix it but im not aware of something that would cause it to break currently11:40
sean-k-mooneythat does not mean it cant just not seeing it quickly11:40
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tobias-urdinsean-k-mooney: sorry was afk for a while, should it be treated as a bug?11:46
sean-k-mooneytobias-urdin: no we previusly had a bug for this for rbd then meged a skip and reverted it11:47
sean-k-mooneytobias-urdin: the use of rbd does not put the instance state dir on shared storage11:47
sean-k-mooneytobias-urdin: this could be a blueprint/spec11:48
sean-k-mooneybut its a new feature not a bug11:48
tobias-urdinsean-k-mooney: ok, thanks :)11:48
sean-k-mooneytobias-urdin: its one i would not mind seeing added by the way. i think it would be useful11:48
tobias-urdinsean-k-mooney: i agree11:49
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noonedeadpunksean-k-mooney: looking at code, I have one question - should I need another aggregate which would include the rest of the hosts?11:55
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sean-k-mooneynoonedeadpunk: off the top of my head i dont think so11:56
noonedeadpunkok, just to double check, as I don't have one11:56
noonedeadpunkI mean I have the only aggregate with required trait11:56
sean-k-mooneyall the rest will be in the implcit nova aggreate11:56
noonedeadpunkwas just thinking how this works. https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/train/nova/scheduler/request_filter.py#L74-L76 Like we get list of aggregates without the trait?11:59
sean-k-mooney yes so we first get all the required traits from the instance12:02
sean-k-mooneythen we all the aggreates that have require traits that are not in the set we require for the instnace12:03
sean-k-mooneywe then add those as forbiden aggreates to the placment query12:03
noonedeadpunkah, ok, yeah12:03
sean-k-mooneyso since you have no required traits in the flaovr or image for that instance12:03
sean-k-mooneyit will get back all aggreates with a require trait12:03
sean-k-mooneyin this case the one aggreate you created12:04
sean-k-mooneyand then add those to the forbidden list12:04
noonedeadpunkok, thanks so much for explanation12:04
sean-k-mooneythat becmoes a "mem_of=!<aggreate uuid>" paramter to placemnt12:04
sean-k-mooney! being not12:05
openstacksean-k-mooney: Error: "being" is not a valid command.12:05
noonedeadpunklol12:05
sean-k-mooneyhehe12:05
sean-k-mooneysorry that hsoul be member_of12:05
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sean-k-mooneyanyway you get the point we prefix the uuid with ! whenever we want to exclude it12:06
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noonedeadpunkyes, sure, thanks again)12:07
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dansmithlyarwood: I may have missed something about the live migration ceph job.. this is a grenade job, but this is the one I care most about: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/742056/6/.zuul.yaml@9013:33
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dansmithwhich looks like it has already been removed and we're not running, right?13:33
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lyarwooddansmith: it's still there just hidden in the original nova-live-migration job13:36
lyarwooddansmith: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/2beb18444fccac2ffe73292423ff801a9f327f49/.zuul.yaml#L59-L7013:36
lyarwooddansmith: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/2beb18444fccac2ffe73292423ff801a9f327f49/playbooks/legacy/nova-live-migration/run.yaml#L51-L5413:37
lyarwooddansmith: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/2beb18444fccac2ffe73292423ff801a9f327f49/gate/live_migration/hooks/run_tests.sh#L55-L6513:37
dansmithlyarwood: confusing, but okay.. so *that* is the thing I think is important not to lose, but grenade I guess I'm less worried about13:37
lyarwoodkk ack, I've -W'd my switch over change until I've covered that in a ceph specific job13:38
dansmithI'm still worried about losing pressure to close the loop and these gaps sticking around for a while, but if the basic multinode live migration switcheroo bit is still there, then I don't want to block smaller process hacks like the grenade bit if that makes it easier13:38
lyarwoodnp this shouldn't take long to work out and backport to stable/victoria so we can close the zuulv3 stuff out there tbh13:39
lyarwoodI've worked out how to copy the config and keys around already13:39
lyarwoodin here https://review.opendev.org/#/c/755270/13:40
lyarwoodbut I think the role needs to land in devstack itself13:40
dansmithah, wait wait,13:40
dansmithgmann's patch *does* remove that chunk: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/752557/8/.zuul.yaml@a6813:41
dansmithyou were saying that job isn't already gone,13:41
dansmithbut his patch *does* reduce that coverage...13:41
lyarwoodthat's my change13:41
lyarwoodand is -W'd13:41
lyarwooduntil we get the coverage sorted13:42
dansmithokay, I guess I'm not sure which that is,13:42
lyarwoodI'll add a comment13:42
dansmithah, this guy: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/752557/13:43
lyarwoodthat's the same change as above13:44
dansmithlol13:44
lyarwoodhttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/742056/ is the grenade change13:45
dansmithI know, I just didn't realize that was yours, thought it was gmann's because he had the -W until a minute ago13:45
lyarwoodah np13:45
dansmithyeah, I got it now13:45
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dansmithbtw, I'm super happy to see you guys also getting spanked by zuul on syntax stuff13:46
dansmithfixing up glance's jobs, zuul was getting sick of me throwing up patches that didn't even parse :)13:46
lyarwoodhaha yeah, all the damn time13:46
lyarwoodwish there was a way of running some of this stuff locally13:47
dansmiththere needs to be a separately-installable zuulint tool or something we can throw into a tox env13:47
dansmithyeah13:47
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sean-k-mooneylyarwood: there is a docker compose file for running zull quickly14:02
sean-k-mooneybut ya gettign the gate jobs to work is non trivial14:02
sean-k-mooneythe devstack/tempest based jobs pull in a lot of repos so you need to donload a lot of repos to get them to work unless you take a few steps that mean your nolonger really mirrioring what happens in the gate14:03
sean-k-mooneydansmith: but ya a zuul-lint tool would be nice14:04
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openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: WIP zuul: Replace nova-live-migration with zuulv3 jobs  https://review.opendev.org/75255714:47
openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: WIP zuul: Merge nova-evacuate into nova-multinode-live-migration  https://review.opendev.org/75530914:47
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openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova stable/victoria: [stable-only] nova-live-migration: Disable libvirtd during negative tests  https://review.opendev.org/75468817:46
openstackgerritmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Add note about setting CONF.max_disk_devices_to_attach = 0  https://review.opendev.org/75536017:49
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openstackgerritmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Add note about setting CONF.max_disk_devices_to_attach = 0  https://review.opendev.org/75536017:56
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gansoHi Nova folks! I know most people are very busy with bugs for the RC1, but just in case you have 1 minute to spare, here is a backport to stable/ussuri that is waiting for +2s, if you could please take a look at. Thanks in advance! https://review.opendev.org/#/c/752245/20:11
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sean-k-mooneylyarwood: elod ^ you might be able to help ganso when ye are around20:31
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gansosean-k-mooney: thanks!21:58
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