Tuesday, 2025-07-29

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opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Add hw_tpm_secret_security image property  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/94019603:12
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Add hw:tpm_secret_security extra spec validation  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/94019703:12
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: migrate legacy instances to new security policy  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/94250103:12
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support instances with `user` secret security  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/94250203:12
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support instances with `host` secret security  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/94179503:12
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Add vtpm_secret_(uuid|value) to LiveMigrateData  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95262803:12
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support live migration of `host` secret security  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/94148303:12
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support instances with `deployment` secret security  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/94202103:12
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support live migration of `deployment` secret security  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/92577103:12
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: test live migration between hosts with different security  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95262903:12
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: update instance request_spec with secret security  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95263003:12
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: confirm secret security via hard reboot  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95584703:12
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support live migration of `host` secret security  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/94148305:44
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support instances with `deployment` secret security  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/94202105:44
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support live migration of `deployment` secret security  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/92577105:44
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: test live migration between hosts with different security  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95262905:44
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: update instance request_spec with secret security  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95263005:44
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: confirm secret security via hard reboot  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95584705:44
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opendevreviewLajos Katona proposed openstack/nova master: DNM: Test pyroute2 bump to greate than 0.9.x  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95585808:09
opendevreviewFlorian proposed openstack/nova master: Add check for PCIe devices attach limit for volume and ports  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95558408:14
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opendevreviewKamil Sambor proposed openstack/nova master: Replace eventlet.event.Event with threading.Event  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/94975411:24
opendevreviewMerged openstack/nova stable/2024.2: Add ServersViewBuilderTestV296 unit test class  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95530912:45
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opendevreviewKamil Sambor proposed openstack/nova master: Replace eventlet.event.Event with threading.Event  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/94975413:27
opendevreviewStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: api: Add response body schemas for images APIs  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95228414:52
opendevreviewStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: api: Separate volume, snapshot and volume attachments  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95234714:52
opendevreviewStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: tests: Use valid UUIDs for cinder resources  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95293514:52
opendevreviewStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: api: Only apply "soft" additionalProperties validation to requests  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95293614:52
opendevreviewStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: api: Add response body schemas for volumes APIs  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95234814:52
opendevreviewStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: api: Add response body schemas for snapshots APIs  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95234914:52
opendevreviewStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: api: Add response body schemas for volume attachments APIs  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95235014:52
opendevreviewStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: api: Add response body schemas for floating IP APIs  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95297214:52
opendevreviewStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: api: Add response body schemas for security group APIs  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95297314:52
opendevreviewStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: api: Add response body schemas for services APIs  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95319614:52
opendevreviewStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: api: Add response body schemas for server usage audit log APIs  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95320914:52
opendevreviewStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: api: Add response body schemas for tenant network APIs  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95608815:24
opendevreviewBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Warn on long task wait time for executor  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95266615:25
opendevreviewBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Make RBD Tpool usage conditional  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95608915:25
opendevreviewBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Make libvirt Tpool proxying conditional  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95609015:25
opendevreviewBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Fix ProviderTree copying with threading Lock  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95609115:25
opendevreviewBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: [test]Further categorization of disabled unit tests  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95609215:25
UgglaNova meeting in ~30mn15:28
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elodilles~o~16:01
Uggla#startmeeting nova16:02
opendevmeetMeeting started Tue Jul 29 16:02:54 2025 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Uggla. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:02
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opendevmeetThe meeting name has been set to 'nova'16:02
elodilleso/16:03
UgglaHello everyone16:03
gmaano/16:03
sp-bmilanovhi!16:03
opendevreviewStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: api: Add response body schemas for simple tenant usage APIs  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95609616:03
UgglaLet's start smoothly so people can join16:04
Uggla#topic Bugs (stuck/critical)16:04
Uggla#info No Critical bug16:04
Uggla#topic Gate status16:05
Uggla#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=gate-failure Nova gate bugs 16:05
Uggla#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-ci-failures-minimal16:05
Uggla#link https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?project=openstack%2Fnova&project=openstack%2Fplacement&branch=stable%2F*&branch=master&pipeline=periodic-weekly&skip=0 Nova&Placement periodic jobs status16:05
Uggla#info Please look at the gate failures and file a bug report with the gate-failure tag.16:05
Uggla#info Please try to provide a meaningful comment when you recheck16:05
Uggla#info (gibi): The ceph regression is now tracked in https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/72203 and I pinged two of the maintainers to let them know we need help.16:06
* bauzas waves late, was in meeting16:06
Uggla#info (gibi): https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/grenade/+/955865 is merged. If you still see grenade failures due to timeout during DB dumping then please let me know in the bug.16:06
gmaan++16:06
Ugglagibi, I think ^ is related to issues we had last week. Any news about them.16:07
gibiI added this to the agenda today as FYI :)16:07
gibis/this/these/16:07
gibiso no news since two hours ago :)16:07
Ugglaok thanks, so this is still in progess. 16:08
gibiyepp 16:08
Uggla#topic tempest-with-latest-microversion job status 16:09
Uggla#link https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/builds?job_name=tempest-with-latest-microversion&skip=016:09
gmaanno update on this. I need to schedule some time for this16:09
Ugglano worries, thanks16:10
Uggla#topic Release Planning 16:10
Uggla#link https://releases.openstack.org/flamingo/schedule.html16:10
Uggla#info Nova deadlines are set in the above schedule16:10
UgglaWe are ~1 month before feature freeze.16:11
Uggla#topic Review priorities 16:11
Uggla#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-2025.2-status16:11
UgglaI'm not sure it is fully up2date, I will have a look tomorrow.16:12
UgglaI think the main priorities are eventlet removal and vTPM live migration.16:12
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UgglaBoth features have patches to review unless I'm wrong.16:13
Uggla#topic OpenAPI16:14
Uggla#link: https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22openapi%22+(project:openstack/nova+OR+project:openstack/placement)+-status:merged+-status:abandoned16:14
Uggla#info 13 remaining.16:14
UgglaI guess gmaan and sean-k-mooney managed to do some reviews. Thanks16:15
Uggla#topic Stable Branches16:16
Ugglaelodilles, the floor is yours16:16
elodilles#info stable branches (stable/2025.1 and stable/2024.*) seem to be in OK state16:16
elodillesrelease nova stable versions:16:16
elodilles31.0.1 (2025.1 Epoxy) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/95505816:16
elodilles30.0.2 (2024.2 Dalmatian) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/94784716:16
elodilles29.2.2 (2024.1 Caracal) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/95447416:16
elodillesstill waiting for release liaison's review o:)16:16
elodilles(the latter is preparation for 2024.1 Caracal to move to Unmainained in October)16:17
elodilles#info stable branch status / gate failures tracking etherpad: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-stable-branch-ci16:17
elodillesthat's all from me -> back to you Uggla 16:17
Ugglaelodilles, I will review them tomorrow.16:17
elodillesUggla: thanks in advance o/16:17
Uggla#topic vmwareapi 3rd-party CI efforts Highlights16:18
fwieselHi, no update from my side.16:18
Ugglafwiesel, thanks.16:18
fwieselUggla: back to you16:18
Uggla#topic Gibi's news about eventlet removal.16:18
gibio/16:19
Uggla#link Blog: https://gibizer.github.io/categories/eventlet/16:19
Uggla#link nova-scheduler series is ready for core review, starting at https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/94796616:19
gibiThanks to the reviews we have Kamil's patch approved https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/94975416:19
gibiand we are too commits from https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/948450/35 that will enable n-sch in threading mode in nova-next16:20
gibis/too/two/16:20
gibiI recently pushed a series of unit test re-enabling changes to the top of the series mostly Tpool and Threading.lock copying fixes16:21
gibiahh and we have a ssl socket warpping change as well that is an interesting one and still failing on the gate after my initial fix16:21
gibihttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95591516:22
gibianyhow my goal is to land https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/948450 before the FF (n-sch) or as a stretch goal https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/951957/17 (n-api)16:22
gibithat is it.16:22
gibithere is nothing major in between n-sch and n-api so I'm hopeful about the strech goal16:23
gibiback to you Uggla if no questions16:24
UgglaThat would be great. So next cycle you may focus on compute.16:24
gibivncproxy and compute yepp16:24
gibiKamil has the n-cond on his plate16:24
Ugglathanks gibi, moving on16:26
Uggla#topic Open discussion 16:26
sean-k-mooneysorry was diestackted. but here now o/16:26
Ugglagibi, I thnik you want to discuss --> just want to socialize a small independent test speed improvement series: https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22unit-test-speedup%22 Easy to review and low risk patches.16:27
UgglaHi sean-k-mooney16:27
sean-k-mooneyhum that sounds interesting16:27
gibiyeah just a heads up that I run a lot of unit test these days so I spent an afternoon speeding up some of the slow unit test16:27
gibis16:28
gibimostly changing timeout values or mocking time.sleep in test16:28
sean-k-mooneycool. mainly uitnitest not functional at this point, will any of it carry over or are they all targeted16:28
gmaannice16:28
gibithey are all targeted16:28
sean-k-mooneyack16:28
sean-k-mooneyim happy to rewview those16:29
gibiwhen I will start enabling threading in func test you can expet similar speed up series there as well16:29
gmaanI will check 16:29
gibithanks16:29
sean-k-mooneyi currently cheat and when i want to run unit test alot i move to a system with 48 cores so it woudl be nice to not if adding mockign of time.sleep ectra can do this in the gate too16:30
sean-k-mooneythe unit test i dont find to be too bad but the functional test are slower.16:30
gmaanif you run api sample test too in finctional then yes it is more slower. I usually separate tgem16:31
sean-k-mooneygibi: have you added this to the nova status etherpad16:31
gmaanthem16:31
gibisean-k-mooney: not yet, doing it now...16:31
sean-k-mooneycool ill add my self to the bottom patch and try to do a pass on all fo them this week16:32
sean-k-mooneyi want to check them out and run them locally but skiming them they all seam to make sense16:32
gibinothing fancy :)16:33
sean-k-mooneybefore we move on did you have a stragy to find  thse slow test16:33
sean-k-mooneyor were you just looking at the slow test list and going hum why is that so slow16:34
gibitox prints the slow tests16:34
gibiI just checked those16:34
sean-k-mooneyack, its been a while since i looked at that list16:34
sean-k-mooneyi see it but i dont dig into it often. thanks for takign the time16:35
Ugglagibi, 'tox prints the slow tests' with a specific commands or ?16:35
gibiUggla: after each successful target run :)16:35
gmaanyeah, at the end you can see those16:36
UgglaShame on me I did not noticed that...16:36
sean-k-mooneyUggla: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/tox.ini#L9116:36
gibi-> flag = self._event.wait(timeout)16:36
gibiahh wrong buffer16:37
gibihttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/tox.ini#L5416:37
sean-k-mooneyso context, we use stester which uses subunit internally as a db16:37
gibiso you can use stestr to print it16:37
sean-k-mooneyand there are some tools to extract thigns like slowest tests and print them16:37
sean-k-mooneythat what stestr slowest is doing16:37
Ugglagood to know thanks16:38
sean-k-mooneyit looking at the last test run in the subunit db and listing them16:38
Ugglasean-k-mooney I'm just wondering if the 48 cores machine is part of your homelab ? Sorry I'm curious16:38
sean-k-mooneyyes it part of the hardware im considerign replacing its pretty old at this point16:39
* gibi has 16 cores 32 threads desktop CPU16:39
sp-bmilanovsean-k-mooney sounds like a dual-xeon workstation from mid 2010s 16:39
sean-k-mooneyyep16:40
sean-k-mooneyIntel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2697 v2 @ 2.70GHz16:40
gmaanI recently bought two 16 core dell poweredge R630 but need to setup those16:41
Ugglagmaan for homelab too ?16:41
sean-k-mooneyhonestly you can get much more power effeict systems now16:42
gmaanyeah, my both old desktop are dead16:42
sean-k-mooneybut its my main compute node in my home openstack i jsut pop onto the host if i want to run fast16:42
sean-k-mooneyour unit test are very very paralisable16:43
sean-k-mooneyanyway i think we are a little off topic16:43
Ugglayepp16:43
Ugglaany other topic ?16:43
sp-bmilanovyep16:44
Ugglaoh sp-bmilanov, please go ahead. And sorry I might remove your topic thinking it was covered last time16:44
sp-bmilanovUggla: no probs16:44
sp-bmilanovyeah, so from last time, gibi, dansmith, you might remember the nova-compute forced restart bug, I drafted a spec: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/95581216:45
sp-bmilanovdoes it make sense to discuss it with the hindsight of Sean's comments? (thanks sean-k-mooney!)16:45
sp-bmilanovas I understand it, it would be best if we add some extra RPC functionality for the source to ask the destination if the instance is running there16:46
sean-k-mooneyjust opening that now16:46
sean-k-mooneyah the restart during live migration issue16:46
sean-k-mooneyso there are proably a few differnt way to adress that. btu there are trade off for all of them16:47
sp-bmilanovIMO admin-locking it would be a compromise, what you suggested with the self-heal sounds best16:47
sean-k-mooneyso i think there are diffent mitigation for diffent usecase. where we can gracefully shutdown i think we likely shoudl abort the live migration ad the libvirt level16:48
sean-k-mooneyand then clean it up at the nova level on start up16:48
sean-k-mooneybuting the isntnace to error and locking them i think is a step we coudl take to improve the situraion16:48
sean-k-mooneybut the ultimate fix would be to be able to resume the management of the migration and allow it to succeded if in fact did16:49
sean-k-mooneyi feel like an incremental approch is what we shoudl try to do but i dont know what others think16:49
sean-k-mooneysp-bmilanov: is this somethign you woudl ahve time to work on or are you rasing it as a pain point that you think we shoudl prioritize16:50
gibilast week we discussed that sp-bmilanov interested in the non-graceful restart case16:50
gibiso we need something in the startup code path that prevents the original problem16:50
sp-bmilanovgibi: yes, the ungraceful restart case is what we experienced ; sean-k-mooney pain point first, I am not sure if I can help implement something that you've triaged as so complex16:51
gibiie. the duplication of instances reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/209239116:51
* sp-bmilanov should maybe link the bug to the spec16:52
gibiI believe we should be able to detect during compute startup that we have a duplication based on the fact that one of the domain is on a host that is not equal to the instance.host16:52
gibior based on that we have an unfinished migration 16:53
gibiin the DB16:53
sp-bmilanovjust an aside, I guess that's is not a good approach since you haven't brought it up, but why not try using a flag in the database to check if the migration is at at point where the instance is running at the destination16:53
sean-k-mooneyso the duplciation i think weill need us to do an rpc to the dest compute16:53
sean-k-mooneyand determin if we shoudl revert or run post-live-migration16:53
gibisp-bmilanov: I hope we have a migration state that signals that already16:54
opendevreviewStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: api: Address issues with images APIs  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95610216:55
sean-k-mooneysp-bmilanov: so resumeing the guest is not done by nova16:56
gibianyhow I think it make sense to review a spec and perpare a PTG discussion about it16:56
sean-k-mooneyits doen by libvirt16:56
sean-k-mooneyand the scoue comput enode will update the dbstate if its still runing16:56
sean-k-mooneythe problem currently is if you restart it the thread we have monitoring the libvirt job will be killed16:57
sean-k-mooneyand we wont do that update.16:57
sean-k-mooneybut on startup we can see fi the job is still runing and either resume waiting or  make an rpc to see if it scuceeded. or check if the vm is running lcoally16:57
sean-k-mooneyif its runnign locally and there is no migration job active in libvirt it mean the migratoin failed16:58
sean-k-mooneyif the vm is not local it means either it crashed or it moved16:58
sean-k-mooneyso we coudl be more intelegent on startup16:58
sean-k-mooneybut someone need to spend tiem documenting this bevhioer16:58
sean-k-mooneyand writing it up16:58
sean-k-mooneyso yes i think a spec/ptg discussion woudl be good16:59
gibiyepp I agree 16:59
* sp-bmilanov is still wondering why "make an rpc to see if it scuceeded" cannot be checked from the DB, but he needs to make sense of sean-k-mooney's messages offline17:00
sp-bmilanovs/checked from the DB/set from the dst and then checked from the src from the DB/17:00
sean-k-mooneywell17:01
sean-k-mooneythe compute agent does not have direct db access for one17:01
sean-k-mooneyso just chekc the db state is already an rpc to teh conductor17:01
sean-k-mooneybut the responisbleity for updating the host of the vm is on the souce node17:02
sean-k-mooneyas part of post live migrate17:02
sean-k-mooneyso on start up if we need to check if tis on the dest node the source node need to call the dest to do that17:02
sean-k-mooneyi.e. asumeign the vm is not still running locally17:02
sean-k-mooneywe need to know if it crashed or if its actully active on the other host. and we can do that with only local knowlsage or by checkign the db.17:03
UgglaWe are on top of the hour. So I propose to close the meeting. ^ discusion can happen right after if needed.17:04
sp-bmilanovthanks Uggla17:05
UgglaThanks all.17:05
Uggla#endmeeting17:05
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sp-bmilanovsean-k-mooney right, it makes sense that the DB will be of no use if the one responsible for the book-keeping there is the source17:05
gibiI needs to drop. Thanks folks17:06
sean-k-mooneyUggla: 16905 tests in 84.9128 sec. with 48 thread/24 cores even at only 2.5GHz you can run the test suite pretty fast17:07
sean-k-mooneybut looking at my slow tests17:07
sean-k-mooneynova.tests.unit.api.openstack.compute.test_schemas.SchemaTest.test_schemas                                     25.41517:07
sean-k-mooney25 second for the schema tests seam a bit off17:07
sp-bmilanovgot to go as well, thanks sean-k-mooney, gibi!17:08
sean-k-mooneythe other ones at the top of the list i think are ones gibi is speeding up17:08
Ugglayes the test schema seems surprisingly long17:09
sean-k-mooneywith gibi's speedup serise applied i get this https://paste.opendev.org/show/bN1SLJLLAhPmqGFIRNID/17:12
sean-k-mooneyso its liek 9 tiems slower the the nearest other test17:13
sean-k-mooneyhttps://paste.opendev.org/show/brPnnHtdLgbbaEFxJbfi/ 229.4782 sec. is not too bad for all the funcitonal tests on this host but its longer then i would perfer17:19
opendevreviewStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: api: Add response body schemas for server usage audit log APIs  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95320917:54
opendevreviewStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: api: Add response body schemas for tenant network APIs  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95608817:54
opendevreviewStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: api: Add response body schemas for simple tenant usage APIs  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95609617:54
opendevreviewMerged openstack/nova master: Print ThreadPool statistics  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/94834018:29
opendevreviewMerged openstack/nova master: api: Add response body schemas for images APIs  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95228419:12
opendevreviewMerged openstack/nova master: Replace eventlet.event.Event with threading.Event  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/94975420:26

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