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| tkajinam | gibi, hi, are you around ? | 10:20 |
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| gibi | tkajinam: not right now but I will be back from a call hopefully in an hour | 11:56 |
| gibi | tkajinam: feel free to leave me some stuff to answer :) | 11:56 |
| gibi | I see that SNP is mostly landed so I'm not worrying about that any more :) | 12:05 |
| gibi | more worried about the TDX work | 12:05 |
| tkajinam | yeah | 12:43 |
| tkajinam | gibi, I tested https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/996316 in my local env and verified it. I wonder if you agree with merging it (unfortunately the node is in a bit secured space so I can't bring logs easily from there) | 12:44 |
| tkajinam | assuming testing in real hardware is the only pending work item | 12:45 |
| tkajinam | once that and a few follow-up tests are merged, I can help rebasing and implementing the rest of TDX bits according to what I've implemented for snp, if that could be helpful | 12:46 |
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| tkajinam | antia, hi. around ? | 13:55 |
| antia | hi yes | 13:57 |
| antia | Saw your comment, sounds reasonable to have it be one version bump | 13:58 |
| tkajinam | yeah | 13:58 |
| tkajinam | antia, I wonder if you managed to rebase your change on top of current master | 13:59 |
| tkajinam | I pulled your change and rebased on top of the latest master. If not, then I can push it from my end. | 14:00 |
| tkajinam | I can also rebase again the change on top of a few remaining sev-snp change to pull base structure for functional tests you likely have to add | 14:00 |
| tkajinam | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/997635 is the one I'm talking about | 14:01 |
| tkajinam | If you are ready to submit an updated version then I'll leave it to you. | 14:01 |
| antia | I was just working on it, since I had it previously rebased against your patch. Mine has a second version bump though. Would yours be with one version bump? | 14:03 |
| gibi | tkajinam: re https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/996316 I trust your verification. I will push the necessary buttons.. | 14:03 |
| tkajinam | gibi, thanks ! | 14:04 |
| tkajinam | antia, my local rebase is yet to do another version bump but we can revert that part. maybe we want to discuss that during the upcoming meeting | 14:05 |
| gibi | antia: tkajinam: any progress on intel TDX is very welcome we have 5 weeks left to land it and I have dedicated review cycles promised to get it reviewed as fast as I can | 14:07 |
| gibi | so even if a half done series pushed up would help me help you :) | 14:08 |
| antia | tkajinam, yes that sounds reasonable. Regarding https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/997635, atleast the changes to LibvirtReportTraitsTestBase will be relevant so I think it is good to rebase against it already | 14:08 |
| antia | gibi, yes apologies I had to take PTO for personal reasons last week. I am now fully back and will work full time on it until the deadline. | 14:10 |
| antia | will push what I have today so we have something to start with | 14:11 |
| gibi | antia: sounds good. thanks | 14:14 |
| tkajinam | bauzas, thanks for approving the remaining patches ! | 14:20 |
| bauzas | tkajinam: sorry was pretty packed with other stuff downstream but I reviewed the whole series :) | 14:20 |
| bauzas | thanks for the hard work ! | 14:21 |
| gmaan | gibi: i replied on the security group name (trailiing/leading whitespace) issue, https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/995073 | 14:42 |
| gibi | gmaan: thanks | 14:43 |
| gmaan | it seems we need to fix it with microverison. If so then i know we said every API change need spec but this seems straight forward issue to fix so not sure if we can wave off the spec requirement here and fix as specless BP or just bug tracking | 14:44 |
| gmaan | for me, we do not need to do spec here and can just review/merge the fix but would like to know what other things | 14:45 |
| gmaan | i can add it in today meeting agenda though | 14:45 |
| gibi | gmaan: yeah. I'm a bit sad about this needed a new microversion. It feels our microversion rules are too strict regarding bugs. But I'm not dying on this specific bugfix hill. | 14:45 |
| gmaan | i know sometime microversion are overkil but that is what we have | 14:46 |
| gibi | regarding fixing in specless bp we need the core team's overall agreement but I'm OK if it is really just changing the schema to allow what neutron allows | 14:46 |
| gibi | gmaan: "that is what we have" I feel like we are fully in charge to decide what we have as a rule :) | 14:47 |
| gmaan | well, its interop issue not backward compatiblity and we have taken both into account in past. I am ok if we want to change some rule to relax the microversion bump need but that will be agreed separatly as overall policy | 14:49 |
| gmaan | ok, as the use case itself is not good/weired, let it go in it own pace then. I will ask author to propose spec and it can go in next cycle as this cycle spec is done | 14:50 |
| gibi | interop as two clouds with the same API microversion behaving differently because they are on different nova-api software level? | 14:52 |
| gibi | if so, that is super limiting. I.e. if a bugfix changes a nova 500 to a nova 200 and an active server, that is an interop issue in that definition as such bug fix changes the observed behavior of nova on the same microversion | 14:53 |
| gibi | but we are tend to fix bug to change the observed behavior of nova | 14:53 |
| gibi | anyhow this is a wider discussion | 14:54 |
| gmaan | yeah, we had one such cases 2.42 microversion for network device tag which we added in 2.33 microversion, introduced bug which removed it from schema 2.37?, then added back in 2.42 microversion | 14:55 |
| gmaan | it is mainly issue for users/apps moving from cloud allowing whitespace SG name to cloud rejecting them | 14:56 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Stabilize test_failed_count_with_anti_affinity_violation https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/998001 | 14:58 |
| bauzas | reminder : nova meeting here in ~50 mins | 15:09 |
| gmaan | any one would like to add 2nd +2 on these enforce_scope release notes/requirement bump https://review.opendev.org/q/hashtag:%22remove-enforce-scope-flag%22+hashtag:%22nova%22status:open | 15:35 |
| opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/os-traits master: Update supported python versions https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-traits/+/998011 | 15:37 |
| opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/os-resource-classes master: Update supported python versions https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-resource-classes/+/998012 | 15:39 |
| opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/os-vif master: Declare Python 3.14 support https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-vif/+/998013 | 15:42 |
| bauzas | #startmeeting nova | 16:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Mon Jul 20 16:00:22 2026 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bauzas. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 16:00 |
| bauzas | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova | 16:00 |
| bauzas | hey folks, chairing the meeting due to Uggla's PTO | 16:01 |
| elodilles | o/ | 16:01 |
| gibi | o/ | 16:01 |
| sambork | o/ | 16:01 |
| bauzas | let's try to have a short one :) | 16:01 |
| bauzas | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 16:01 |
| antia | o/ | 16:01 |
| bauzas | #info No Critical bug | 16:01 |
| bauzas | #topic Gate status | 16:01 |
| fwiesel | o/ | 16:01 |
| tkajinam | o/ | 16:01 |
| bauzas | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=gate-failure Nova gate bugs | 16:01 |
| bauzas | #link https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?project=openstack%2Fnova&project=openstack%2Fplacement&branch=stable%2F*&branch=master&pipeline=periodic-weekly&skip=0 Nova&Placement periodic jobs status | 16:02 |
| bauzas | #info Please look at the gate failures and file a bug report with the gate-failure tag. | 16:02 |
| bauzas | #info Please try to provide a meaningful comment when you recheck | 16:02 |
| bauzas | anything to mention about the gate ? | 16:02 |
| bauzas | I think we no longer have a gate failure now :) | 16:02 |
| tkajinam | yeah | 16:03 |
| bauzas | cool | 16:03 |
| bauzas | moving on | 16:03 |
| bauzas | #topic Release Planning | 16:04 |
| bauzas | #link https://releases.openstack.org/hibiscus/schedule.html | 16:04 |
| bauzas | #info Nova deadlines are set in the above schedule | 16:04 |
| gmaan | o/ | 16:04 |
| bauzas | #topic Review priorities | 16:04 |
| bauzas | #link New file for Hibiscus https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-2026.2-status | 16:04 |
| bauzas | #info Uggla has updated Launchpad and the above doc. Please ping me if you spot something missing. | 16:05 |
| bauzas | #undo | 16:05 |
| opendevmeet | Removing item from minutes: #info Uggla has updated Launchpad and the above doc. Please ping me if you spot something missing. | 16:05 |
| bauzas | #info Uggla has updated Launchpad and the above doc. Please ping him if you spot something missing. | 16:05 |
| bauzas | #info Starting: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-2026.2-status#L16 interesting bugs to review. | 16:05 |
| bauzas | anything to discuss about the statuses ? | 16:05 |
| bauzas | kk | 16:06 |
| bauzas | #topic Stable Branches | 16:06 |
| bauzas | elodilles: your time :) | 16:06 |
| elodilles | thanks :) | 16:06 |
| elodilles | #info placement stable/2025.1 is blocked - workaround: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/placement/+/992299 | 16:06 |
| elodilles | #info other stable gates should be OK | 16:06 |
| bauzas | approved the workaround | 16:07 |
| elodilles | sean-k-mooney's backports fixed stable/2025.1 nova gate. thanks all o/ | 16:07 |
| elodilles | bauzas: thanks!!!! \o/ | 16:07 |
| bauzas | anything else ? | 16:07 |
| elodilles | only this one: | 16:08 |
| elodilles | #info stable branch status / gate failures tracking etherpad: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-stable-branch-ci | 16:08 |
| elodilles | :) | 16:08 |
| elodilles | bauzas: back to you | 16:08 |
| bauzas | k | 16:08 |
| bauzas | #topic vmwareapi 3rd-party CI efforts Highlights | 16:08 |
| bauzas | fwiesel: around ? | 16:08 |
| fwiesel | Hi | 16:08 |
| bauzas | o/ | 16:08 |
| fwiesel | Yes, I looked into the pipeline failures, and instance creations were slowed down to that extend that no instances were being created. | 16:09 |
| fwiesel | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo.vmware/+/997269 | 16:09 |
| fwiesel | This should reduce the overhead of doing api calls against VSphere, but I am suspecting it is not the full picture. | 16:10 |
| fwiesel | Still digging into it. | 16:10 |
| fwiesel | That's from my side. | 16:10 |
| bauzas | cool thanks | 16:11 |
| bauzas | #topic Kamil's news about eventlet removal | 16:11 |
| bauzas | sambork ? | 16:11 |
| sambork | o/ | 16:11 |
| sambork | last week was dominated by test stabilization: the unit test exclude list is gone, and there's a push to make the threading functional CI job voting. | 16:12 |
| gibi | e.g. https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2161293 ^^ | 16:12 |
| sambork | he code cleanup is moving forward by replacing Nova-internal threading utilities with futurist primitives (both nova and futurist patch are pushed and ready for review) | 16:13 |
| sambork | eom | 16:13 |
| sambork | anything to add gibi? (thanks for bug above) | 16:13 |
| gibi | fwiesel's finding is sort of eventlet related and I made mental note about performanc of the oslo retry decorator that could effect nova as well not just oslo.vmware | 16:14 |
| gibi | we might want to take a hard look of the usage of that and consider tenacity's cheaper retry all over the place | 16:14 |
| gibi | aaand I still haven't filed the bug to switch the default of our unit test execution to threading and just keep one tox job for unit test + eventlet | 16:15 |
| gibi | but I will I promise... eventually... | 16:15 |
| bauzas | that's nice we no longer have unit test exclude list | 16:15 |
| gibi | btw the functional threading job has only 2 test case excluded | 16:16 |
| bauzas | nice | 16:16 |
| gibi | and at least I understand the problem in one of them :): | 16:16 |
| bauzas | nice | 16:16 |
| sambork | do we need additional ticket for checking retries? and do we wan to priorities this? | 16:17 |
| gibi | sambork: please file a bug just to not forget it | 16:17 |
| gibi | right now I don't feel it has a high prio | 16:17 |
| sambork | ack | 16:18 |
| gibi | but it might become one based on performance results from downstream testing | 16:18 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/nova master: Use domain capabilities to detect SEV-SNP support https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/996316 | 16:19 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/nova master: Extend tests for _is_supported_mem_encryption_model helper https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/997663 | 16:19 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/nova master: Refactor CPU traits functional tests for AMD SEV support https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/997635 | 16:19 |
| gibi | that is basically the report for the SNP status ^^^ :) | 16:19 |
| antia | perfect timing :) | 16:19 |
| gibi | yeah | 16:19 |
| gibi | we can move on | 16:19 |
| bauzas | ack | 16:20 |
| bauzas | #topic Nova using openstack sdk for neutron | 16:20 |
| bauzas | who is leading that ? | 16:20 |
| elodilles | this is Lajos' topic if i'm not mistaken and he is still on PTO | 16:21 |
| bauzas | cool moving on then | 16:21 |
| bauzas | #topic Ironic review priorities | 16:21 |
| bauzas | anything to say ? | 16:21 |
| bauzas | looks not | 16:23 |
| bauzas | #topic Confidential computing, status of SNP and TDX features | 16:23 |
| bauzas | I've seen good news | 16:23 |
| tkajinam | the remaining sev-snp patches lust landed so sev-snp support was completed | 16:24 |
| tkajinam | \o/ | 16:24 |
| gibi | \o/ | 16:24 |
| tkajinam | I just noticed that https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/amd-sev-snp-libvirt-support is not yet approved. can someone do so ? | 16:24 |
| tkajinam | then I'd update its implementation status | 16:24 |
| gibi | done | 16:25 |
| antia | I suppose the same for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/intel-tdx-libvirt-support | 16:25 |
| tkajinam | because these changes were merged tdx needs another rebase but I think we are now fully ready to start it. | 16:26 |
| antia | anyway I ended up with PTO last week so not much on TDX side | 16:26 |
| gibi | antia: fixed the bp for that too | 16:26 |
| antia | gibi: thanks! | 16:26 |
| gibi | I will grab a TDX hardware this week (hopefully) | 16:27 |
| antia | started with some catch up with SNP and rebased with master, noticed some changes to the test structure which results in errors for me | 16:27 |
| antia | I suspect it’s because the exists mock that was dropped in https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/994343/18/nova/tests/fixtures/libvirt.py | 16:27 |
| antia | Since this is the error "Exception: This test invokes builtins.open on /sys/module/kvm_intel/parameters/tdx. It is bad, you should mock it." | 16:27 |
| antia | gibi: Cool! Will get you something to test :) | 16:28 |
| antia | In the end the sys fs check is not needed for TDX since Libvirt does it anyway so the easy fix is probably to drop it, but mostly curious if it was solved in some other way for SEV | 16:29 |
| gibi | antia, tkajinam re mock, yeah we should either mock open or have a different way to check the status | 16:29 |
| gibi | tkajinam: did we fully removed the reliance on the kernel module parameter? | 16:29 |
| gibi | if so, and that worked for SNP, I hope we can do the same for TDX as well | 16:30 |
| tkajinam | gibi, no we have to rely on it for snp but we can drop it for tdx | 16:30 |
| gibi | tkajinam: due to the ES/SNP CVE? | 16:30 |
| tkajinam | no. due to libvirt not checking the flags for es and snp | 16:31 |
| tkajinam | we could probably get rid of access to sev flag, though | 16:31 |
| antia | I'll just drop it as part of the rebase and we should be good | 16:31 |
| gibi | tkajinam: antia: so for TDX we could go with the domain capabilities route? | 16:31 |
| tkajinam | I mean it only checks /sys/module/kvm_amd/parameters/sev and does not check /sys/module/kvm_amd/parameters/sev_es or /sys/module/kvm_amd/parameters/sev_snp | 16:31 |
| tkajinam | gibi, yes, libvirt checks the tdx flag when it declares <tdx support='yes'/> | 16:32 |
| antia | gibi: Yes exactly. Right now it does both the sys fs check and domain capabilities which is not needed | 16:32 |
| gibi | cool then you can get rid of the problem by not relying on reading that file :) | 16:32 |
| tkajinam | yeah using only domain capabilities simplifies the logic and tests largely | 16:33 |
| antia | tried it before and tests were quite annoying to fix, but I think that has been fixed already so should be simple enough | 16:33 |
| gibi | cool | 16:34 |
| tkajinam | one question I got during reviewing the tdx series is whether we need to bump object version again for tdx or can reuse the existing version for snp assuming tdx would be merged this cycle | 16:35 |
| tkajinam | I mean for snp we bumped ImageMeta object version due to hw_mem_encryption_model supporting new amd-sev-snp | 16:35 |
| tkajinam | and I'm wondering if we should bump the version again when hw_mem_encryption_model supports new intel-tdx or we can handle it within the same version | 16:35 |
| gibi | bump the version please | 16:36 |
| gibi | object versions are cheap | 16:36 |
| tkajinam | ok | 16:36 |
| antia | either is fine with me | 16:37 |
| antia | will bump it | 16:37 |
| gibi | thanks | 16:37 |
| tkajinam | quick conclusion :-) | 16:37 |
| gibi | :) | 16:37 |
| tkajinam | nothing else from my end. I reviewed tdx sceries and left a few comments there. | 16:37 |
| antia | thanks for the review! | 16:38 |
| tkajinam | antia, in case you need help to follow existing sev thing then feel free to ping me | 16:38 |
| antia | will do :) | 16:38 |
| gibi | I will keep myself in the loop :) | 16:38 |
| gibi | we can move on | 16:39 |
| tkajinam | yup | 16:40 |
| gibi | bauzas: are you still with us? | 16:42 |
| gibi | OK I'm taking over :) | 16:43 |
| bauzas | sorry back | 16:43 |
| bauzas | #topic Bug scrubbing | 16:43 |
| bauzas | #topic Bug scrubbing | 16:43 |
| bauzas | I haven't looked at the numbers tbh | 16:43 |
| bauzas | moving on so ? | 16:43 |
| bauzas | #topic Open discussion | 16:43 |
| bauzas | anything ? | 16:43 |
| gibi | - | 16:44 |
| tkajinam | a quick one | 16:44 |
| tkajinam | while working on sev-snp work I found several potential cleanups in current libvirt driver code (mainly due to remaining checks for old versions which are non longer supported) | 16:44 |
| tkajinam | https://review.opendev.org/q/hashtag:%22libvirt-cleanups%22+(status:open%20OR%20status:merged) | 16:45 |
| tkajinam | I'll capture these in this hash tag so if you have spare time I appreciate your review :-) | 16:45 |
| gibi | good initiative | 16:45 |
| tkajinam | I think we managed to drop number of unnecessary logics as part of snp work :-) | 16:45 |
| gibi | everything that delete codes worth the review time | 16:45 |
| tkajinam | less code, better life | 16:46 |
| tkajinam | there is also removal of vcpu_pin_set which drops large amount of code just fyi (though I find it a bit complicated for review) | 16:47 |
| tkajinam | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/996016 | 16:47 |
| tkajinam | that's all from me for today ! | 16:47 |
| gibi | :) | 16:47 |
| gibi | (maybe we need a couple of sprints just to fix bugs and land cleanups) | 16:48 |
| gmaan | one review request, enforce_scope releasenotes and one cleanup need 2nd core to check those | 16:48 |
| gmaan | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/hashtag:%22remove-enforce-scope-flag%22+hashtag:%22nova%22status:open | 16:48 |
| gibi | gmaan: I will check it out now | 16:48 |
| gmaan | thanks | 16:49 |
| bauzas | cool, closing now the meeting, thanks all | 16:49 |
| bauzas | #endmeeting | 16:49 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Mon Jul 20 16:49:45 2026 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:49 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2026/nova.2026-07-20-16.00.html | 16:49 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2026/nova.2026-07-20-16.00.txt | 16:49 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2026/nova.2026-07-20-16.00.log.html | 16:49 |
| antia | thanks | 16:49 |
| gibi | bauzas: thanks | 16:49 |
| elodilles | thanks o/ | 16:50 |
| tkajinam | thank you | 16:50 |
| melwitt | has anyone else noticed in devstack nova-compute no longer logs config options setting when it starts up? | 16:51 |
| dansmith | is that an oslo.service change, perhaps related to the eventlet stuff? | 16:52 |
| melwitt | yeah I'm guessing it has something to do with the change to threading, somehow | 16:53 |
| tkajinam | hmm that's wired | 16:56 |
| tkajinam | for threading we use cotyledon and cotyledon has similar debug logs triggered by log_options opt | 16:56 |
| gmaan | only functional change between oslo.service 4.6.0 and 4.7.0(new one in u-c) is this which is just periodic tasks change https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo.service/+/982418 | 16:59 |
| melwitt | yeah I dunno, picking a tempest-integrated-compute job from one of the enforce_scope patches I see the lack of conf options logging https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/f4cc4f17dd414959b5d04cbfddffe410/log/controller/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt | 17:09 |
| tkajinam | it's wired we see the expected debug logs in nova-scheduler on the other hand | 17:19 |
| tkajinam | maybe nova-compute uses a different service launching method (but I don't feel so now) | 17:19 |
| tkajinam | regarding the file access for sev detection it seems although libvirt reads /sys/module/kvm_amd/parameters/sev it does not use that value when it determines sev elements in capabilities .. we have to fix it along with the missing check for sev_es/snp later | 17:19 |
| * tkajinam was checking libvirt logic... | 17:19 | |
| tkajinam | for now we should be ok as long as we keep the current file accesses for snp | 17:20 |
| tkajinam | s/snp/sev/ | 17:20 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/placement stable/2025.1: [CI][stable-only] Pin tempest for Jammy based job https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/placement/+/992299 | 18:10 |
| opendevreview | Sylvain Desgrais proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add spec for allowing security group name spaces https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/998049 | 18:55 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/nova master: [Trivial] use the new variable name for RBAC new defaults https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/995580 | 19:07 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/nova master: Remove disabling the scope enforcement https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/994950 | 19:08 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/placement master: Remove disabling the scope enforecment https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/placement/+/994790 | 19:08 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/os-vif master: Declare Python 3.14 support https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-vif/+/998013 | 23:06 |
| opendevreview | Mike Lowe proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Fix false mem-encryption/UEFI conflict with cpu_mode=custom https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/997259 | 23:32 |
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