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| wasmum | quickie, anyone using RabbitMQ HA? Looking at attaching stack to a cluster/mirror of two rabbitMQ nodes via 'rabbit_hosts=rabbit1:5672,rabbit2:5672' etc... | 14:38 |
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| serverascode | wasmum: yup many ppl should be using ha rabbit | 14:41 |
| serverascode | or you mean by listing hosts? | 14:41 |
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| wasmum | serverasacode: it'll be machines using rabbit, specifically the nodes in the cluster. right now I am looking at pointing the API cells to it as well as the services on the specific service nodes, (nova, neutron, etc) | 14:49 |
| wasmum | serverascode: it'll be machines using rabbit, specifically the nodes in the cluster. right now I am looking at pointing the API cells to it as well as the services on the specific service nodes, (nova, neutron, etc) | 14:49 |
| serverascode | ok, yup, I am using a rabbitmq cluster with mirrored queues, most sites trying to do some kind of ha will be | 14:52 |
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| wasmum | so are you using a single parameter to connect to rabbitmq through a vip via rabbit_host or using the multiple key/values to attach to an array of hosts? | 15:31 |
| wasmum | serverascode: so are you using a single parameter to connect to rabbitmq through a vip via rabbit_host or using the multiple key/values to attach to an array of hosts? | 15:31 |
| wasmum | stinking hate web chat, need my bouncer back online ;) | 15:31 |
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| serverascode | wasmum: I personally use a list of rabbit hosts, but it seems others are using a loadbalancer successfully, though it may depend on what version of oslo messaging you have. I've only used a list so can't speak to the lb use, but don't want to steer you away from anything | 15:48 |
| serverascode | wasmum: actually if you look at the logs there was a discussion about this just before you popped in :) | 15:49 |
| klindgren | if you using oslo.messaging > 1.8 with heartbeats enabled - you should be fine | 15:52 |
| klindgren | if using oslo.messaging < 1.8 - list of hosts | 15:52 |
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| wasmum | serverascode: klindgren: thanks! | 18:09 |
| wasmum | klinggren: heartbeats enables as simple as 'qpid_heartbeat = x' ? | 18:09 |
| wasmum | **enabled | 18:09 |
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| wasmum | klindgren: heartbeats enabled as simple as 'qpid_heartbeat = x' ? (damn my spelling) | 18:10 |
| klindgren | no | 18:11 |
| klindgren | qpid is for qpid which != rabbitmq | 18:11 |
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| klindgren | should be: heartbeat_rate=2 | 18:15 |
| klindgren | heartbeat_timeout_threshold=60 | 18:15 |
| klindgren | under [oslo_messaging_rabbit] | 18:15 |
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| mriedem | klindgren: i see https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/operator-local-patches is mostly for patches to projects, but is there a similar etherpad for tools/scripts that people have, like things that cleanup rabbit? | 20:06 |
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| drwahl | mriedem: kinda, lemme find the link.. | 20:07 |
| drwahl | mriedem: | 20:08 |
| drwahl | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/osops-tools-generic/ | 20:08 |
| mriedem | cool, thanks | 20:08 |
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| drwahl | there is also osops-example-configs, osops-tools-logging, and osops-tools-monitoring | 20:09 |
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| mriedem | nice to see people trying to not reinvent the wheel | 20:10 |
| drwahl | indeed | 20:10 |
| klindgren | mriedem, most of that stuff has been under the osops repo which was linked above | 20:14 |
| mriedem | btw, i was lurking in here the other day and thought it saw someone say that mirrored rabbit queues with HAProxy was kind of a nightmare, yet | 20:16 |
| mriedem | http://docs.openstack.org/high-availability-guide/content/_configure_rabbitmq.html | 20:16 |
| mriedem | the HA ops guide in docs.o.o talks about setting all that up for goodness | 20:16 |
| mriedem | so as an outsider, how much common tribal knowledge from ops are getting back into the official docs, like 'sure you could do this, but x y z can bite you in the arse' | 20:17 |
| klindgren | that was me... | 20:17 |
| klindgren | mostly fixed in later release kilo+ | 20:17 |
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| mriedem | with the heartbeat stuff in oslo.messaging? | 20:17 |
| klindgren | yea | 20:18 |
| mriedem | ok, | 20:18 |
| klindgren | plus they fixed some other stuff in oslo.messaging | 20:18 |
| mriedem | maybe we should have a big fat conditional in the docs that say, if you're going to do HA with rabbit make sure you have these patches and configs | 20:18 |
| klindgren | however HA guides does: | 20:19 |
| klindgren | http://docs.openstack.org/high-availability-guide/content/_configure_openstack_services_to_use_rabbitmq.html | 20:19 |
| mriedem | i know some people were patching out of tree to juno for making that work, and some distros didn't have the dependent packages for i think kombu/amqp? so people had to hand build those | 20:19 |
| klindgren | which is list of hsots | 20:19 |
| klindgren | I was the one that tested the patches for the heartbeat stuff to provide operator feedback | 20:19 |
| klindgren | we upgraded some of hte oslo components | 20:20 |
| klindgren | to get oslo.messaging 1.8.0 or .1 | 20:20 |
| mriedem | do you roll your own dep packages or get those from a distro? | 20:20 |
| klindgren | then run juno with that, we already had newer version of kombu and amqp | 20:20 |
| mriedem | ah ok | 20:20 |
| klindgren | both ish | 20:20 |
| mriedem | roll your own as needed i suspect | 20:21 |
| klindgren | we use anvil, so whatever isn't provided by the disotro anvil will download the pip and build an rpm for it | 20:21 |
| mriedem | ok | 20:21 |
| klindgren | to satify the deps | 20:21 |
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| klindgren | most of the time per new release we end up rolling like ~100-105 new python deps | 20:21 |
| klindgren | 150* | 20:21 |
| mriedem | because the openstack namespace has about 90% of those new deps :) | 20:22 |
| mriedem | thanks oslo/clients/everything else | 20:22 |
| klindgren | well and those have deps of other deps | 20:22 |
| mriedem | yup | 20:22 |
| klindgren | but yea | 20:22 |
| klindgren | anvil also does requirements leveling as well | 20:23 |
| klindgren | as an issue that use to happen is projects use to require conflicting deps versions | 20:23 |
| klindgren | say numpy < .4 in on project and numpy>=.5 in another | 20:24 |
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| klindgren | but thats been mostly solved with the global requirements updates | 20:24 |
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| harlowja | anvil is da bomb | 21:38 |
| harlowja | lol | 21:38 |
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| klindgren | balajin_, poke | 21:48 |
| balajin_ | klindgren: hola | 21:51 |
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| klindgren | harlowja, said to poke you. Can you look at the following specs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225384/ && https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216021/12/specs/mitaka/add-tags-to-core-resources.rst | 21:53 |
| harlowja | operator input wanted (not it) | 21:53 |
| klindgren | carl_baldwin is working on the RFE that LDT and the use cases that operators of which yahoo submitted one) to get neutron to model L3 networks natively | 21:53 |
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| klindgren | carl_baldwin, would like to setup a call/meeting/whatever to talk with other operators, to get feed back re: those 2 specs | 21:54 |
| klindgren | the tag's one in being purposed as a different way of implementing the ask | 21:55 |
| * harlowja thinks balajin_ is now debugging something with some people | 21:55 | |
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| * klindgren likes it better when I message harlowja and he pokes that person internally :-) | 22:06 | |
| harlowja | lol | 22:06 |
| harlowja | idk what u are talking about, lol | 22:06 |
| harlowja | proxy josh likes this solution better :P | 22:07 |
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| balajin_ | ha ha ha | 22:27 |
| balajin_ | no man, i need to spend more time here | 22:27 |
| balajin_ | it is just that i get sucked into things | 22:27 |
| balajin_ | not privileged like harlowja | 22:28 |
| balajin_ | will take a look and comment tonight | 22:28 |
| harlowja | your destiny is your own balajin_ | 22:28 |
| harlowja | i empower u, lol | 22:28 |
| balajin_ | also, i need to talk to you / operator community in general about slave connection | 22:28 |
| balajin_ | for databases | 22:28 |
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| mdorman | like read slaves? that sounds like a good idea. | 22:34 |
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