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| VW | hey folks | 14:01 |
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| VW | let me get things going | 14:01 |
| VW | full disclosure, though - I'm in an escalation meeting at work at the same time, so I won't be the best moderator today fo rthe meeting | 14:02 |
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| VW | #startmeeting Large Deployments Team October 2015 Meeting | 14:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 15 14:03:19 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is VW. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:03 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'large_deployments_team_october_2015_meeting' | 14:03 |
| VW | who's around | 14:03 |
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| mriedem | i'll say i am so you're not lonely but i'm not a large operator :) | 14:17 |
| VW | hee | 14:17 |
| VW | hee hee | 14:17 |
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| VW | sounds like my meeting folks may have forgotten | 14:17 |
| * Brainspackle waves at VW | 14:18 | |
| VW | Topic #Tokyo summit | 14:18 |
| VW | so, who is planning to attend the Large Deployments team meeting at the summit | 14:19 |
| VW | argh - sorry | 14:20 |
| VW | #topic Tokyo summit | 14:20 |
| mriedem | is there a session posted? | 14:20 |
| mriedem | link? | 14:20 |
| mriedem | i'm trying to herd some cats to get more involved in this channel and the large ops stuff so i'm mostly asking to bring that info back to them | 14:21 |
| VW | it is - let me find the link mriedem | 14:21 |
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| mriedem | this https://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/event/41a97d7bb0a6881f23756e6b3d2a9896 ? | 14:26 |
| VW | https://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/overview/type/ops#.Vh-39yRUTDY | 14:28 |
| VW | mriedem ^ | 14:28 |
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| VW | Current topics we are potentially discussing are: | 14:30 |
| VW | Neutron being segment aware | 14:30 |
| VW | Cells V1 patches LDT would like to see done previous to cells V2 | 14:34 |
| VW | inclusion of Public Clouds in LDT events | 14:34 |
| VW | It's going to be tight | 14:36 |
| mriedem | cells v1 patches regarding gaps in cells v1? | 14:36 |
| mriedem | i saw some on the out of tree patches etherpad | 14:36 |
| VW | well, it's more that a lot of LDT is running patches locally | 14:36 |
| VW | for cells v1 now | 14:36 |
| VW | and it's going to take longer for Cells v2 to land for everyeone | 14:36 |
| mriedem | yeah, so, i think if you want to get some feedback on cells v1 stuff pre-summit, or anytime soonish, you should have specs up in nova for those | 14:36 |
| VW | so there may be some things we need in the meantime | 14:36 |
| mriedem | the tricky thing will be balancing investing in v1 when people want to move new dev to v2 | 14:37 |
| VW | no doubt | 14:38 |
| mriedem | but, if people have working code up now, that makes it easier, | 14:39 |
| mriedem | because you can post the code as POC/WIP with the spec | 14:39 |
| mriedem | *and* we have the cells v1 tempest + devstack job, so we can also flip the tests to run on new changes for cells v1 | 14:39 |
| mriedem | and see if they pass tests | 14:39 |
| VW | ooh - that's a good point | 14:41 |
| VW | well, it will be on the agenda there | 14:43 |
| VW | hopeuflly, you can attend and provide some feedback and inside | 14:43 |
| mriedem | i won't be in japan this time | 14:45 |
| mriedem | but i'm nova specs core so can take a look if things get proposed there | 14:45 |
| VW | argh - me either | 14:45 |
| mriedem | alaski won't be at japan either | 14:45 |
| VW | yeah :\ | 14:45 |
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| mriedem | anyway, maybe even posting that list to the nova -dev ML would be a start | 14:48 |
| VW | yeah, there have been some posts, but I don't know if it made the dev one | 14:48 |
| VW | I'll have to dig that up or reach out to klindgren who's been driving that | 14:49 |
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| * klindgren reads through backlog | 14:49 | |
| klindgren | wait the LDT I thought didn't start until like 1 hour 10 minutes from now? | 14:50 |
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| VW | darn! | 14:51 |
| VW | I went backwards | 14:51 |
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| VW | argh! | 14:51 |
| VW | #endmeeting | 14:51 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 15 14:51:40 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_deployments_team_october_2015_meeting/2015/large_deployments_team_october_2015_meeting.2015-10-15-14.03.html | 14:51 |
| mdorman | hah | 14:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_deployments_team_october_2015_meeting/2015/large_deployments_team_october_2015_meeting.2015-10-15-14.03.txt | 14:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_deployments_team_october_2015_meeting/2015/large_deployments_team_october_2015_meeting.2015-10-15-14.03.log.html | 14:51 |
| klindgren | mriedem, I assume this is cells v1 patches | 14:52 |
| mriedem | yeah | 14:52 |
| VW | sorry - been up since 4:#0 | 14:52 |
| klindgren | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-LDT-cells-patches | 14:52 |
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| mdorman | that’s an early morning VW | 14:52 |
| VW | yeah - got an issue brewing | 14:53 |
| mdorman | j^2: around? waht do you think about going ahead and merging https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229013/ ? | 14:53 |
| VW | #opslive | 14:53 |
| VW | #opslife that is | 14:53 |
| mdorman | j^2: i think we have consensus on that | 14:53 |
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| mriedem | mdorman: i commented on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215459/ | 15:00 |
| mriedem | mdorman: can you open a nova bp for that? i don't think we need a spec. | 15:00 |
| mriedem | and there should be some tempest tests we can enable with that to verify it works | 15:00 |
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| mdorman | mriedem: hey, yeah i was jsut looking at your comments. so is it just adding it to that etherpad? or is there more involved? i am not familiar with bp stuff other than via doing specs… | 15:03 |
| mriedem | just open one here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova | 15:03 |
| mriedem | fill out that form, and then we can post to the etherpad | 15:03 |
| mdorman | alright yeah i’ll drop that in today | 15:04 |
| mriedem | i'm going through https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-LDT-cells-patches and making some comments, there are some pretty trivial things in here that i could see getting into nova easily (usability/serviceabilty changes, bug fixes, etc) | 15:05 |
| mriedem | anything related to ec2 is going to be difficult given we've deprecated the ec2 api in nova | 15:05 |
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| mdorman | awesome, thanks. yeah tbh a lot of this stuff we kind of need help with, since most of us aren’t really devs. so a lot of the code is kinda over my head, personally. but we can help with identifiying things, etc. | 15:06 |
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| mriedem | alright, i'm lurking in this channel now so feel free to ask questoins | 15:07 |
| mdorman | cool thanks | 15:08 |
| mdorman | is this enough detail? do i need to put more info in there? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/cells-v1-interface-events | 15:10 |
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| mriedem | seems ok | 15:13 |
| mriedem | i'll fill out the rest | 15:13 |
| mdorman | ty | 15:13 |
| mdorman | i’ll keep an eye on your comments in the etherpad and will try to get everything organized so we can make some real progress at the summit | 15:13 |
| mdorman | i’m hoping to get some work items tee’d up that people can volunteer to own so we can move this stuff forward. | 15:14 |
| mdorman | klindgren: is there not a separate session for ‘performnance issues’ i thought that topic had its own? but maybe i’m remembering wrong | 15:15 |
| klindgren | perf issues is going into LDT | 15:16 |
| mdorman | kk | 15:16 |
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| mdorman | man there are a lot of operator local patches | 15:19 |
| mdorman | klindgren: thoughts on trying to get a separate session for the performance issues thing? | 15:23 |
| klindgren | we could - unless tom handed back some spaces | 15:23 |
| mdorman | i think we should try | 15:23 |
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| mdorman | meeting time now, right? | 16:00 |
| VW | yep | 16:00 |
| VW | for real this time | 16:00 |
| VW | :) | 16:01 |
| mdorman | hah | 16:01 |
| VW | #start meeting Large Deployments Team Monthly Meeting | 16:01 |
| VW | #startmeeting Large Deployments Team Monthly Meeting | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 15 16:01:43 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is VW. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| mdorman | o/ | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'large_deployments_team_monthly_meeting' | 16:01 |
| klindgren | o/ | 16:02 |
| VW | o/ | 16:02 |
| carl_baldwin | o/ | 16:02 |
| klindgren | carl_baldwin, if you wanted to lurk :-) | 16:02 |
| klindgren | in before I sent - nice | 16:02 |
| carl_baldwin | klindgren: ha! beat you to it. | 16:03 |
| mdorman | so did we have a specific agenda here, or just general planning for the summit? if just general planning i had a couple things to bring up. | 16:03 |
| klindgren | looks like VW started with tokyo summit | 16:04 |
| mdorman | #topic Tokyo summit | 16:05 |
| mdorman | here is the main etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TYO-ops-large-deployments-team | 16:05 |
| mdorman | my goal today is to get some more details in there so we can hit the ground running | 16:05 |
| mdorman | #topic Tokyo summit - Neutron routed/segmented networks | 16:05 |
| klindgren | So I am thinking that we are going to be having a discussion on that in a specific neutron session | 16:06 |
| klindgren | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-neutron-next-network-model | 16:06 |
| mdorman | so on that one, our last meeting we’d talked about trying to organize some representation from Neutron to attend. VW i think maybe you said you had a couple people on your end you’d talk to. did anything come of that? are there neutron folks we need to coordinate with. | 16:06 |
| klindgren | carl_baldwin, can confirm on ^^ | 16:06 |
| mdorman | klindgren: ah ok so there is actually a separate session for that? | 16:07 |
| carl_baldwin | klindgren: I don’t think it is scheduled to a slot yet but I’ll check on that. | 16:07 |
| carl_baldwin | I expect it will be soon. | 16:07 |
| mdorman | cool | 16:07 |
| drwahl | o/ | 16:07 |
| klindgren | o/ | 16:07 |
| klindgren | *\o/* | 16:07 |
| klindgren | lol | 16:07 |
| mdorman | carl_baldwin: is there anything else we as LDT/ops can be doing to help with this at this point? other than commenting on the spec? | 16:07 |
| mdorman | trying to come up with concrete things we can ask people to do | 16:08 |
| VW | yes, mdorman two are coming from my end | 16:08 |
| VW | do they need to moderate | 16:08 |
| carl_baldwin | mdorman: The recent discussion with kevinbenton has left me wondering if I understand the operators’ perspectives well enough. | 16:08 |
| mdorman | VW, sounds like it might be more productive for some LDT folks to go to the neutron discussion. can you post their names in the etherpad, or here, so that i can reach out to them to coordinate? | 16:09 |
| carl_baldwin | I’ve been picking klindgren ’s brain a bit and would like to talk to a few more who were represented by this request originally. | 16:09 |
| klindgren | carl_baldwin, expressed interest in talking about the spec between now and tokyo with some end users to reinforce his understanding | 16:09 |
| mdorman | cool | 16:09 |
| VW | mdorman - Ben Burdick and Joel Preas | 16:09 |
| mdorman | anything you two want from the rest of us to help pull that together? | 16:09 |
| VW | I'm thinking we meet online next week | 16:10 |
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| VW | re: the Neutron stuff | 16:10 |
| mdorman | VW with ben and joel, you mean, or with carl and kris and other ops? | 16:10 |
| klindgren | yea and trying to see if we can get sorrinson/CERN on it? | 16:10 |
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| VW | carl and kris | 16:11 |
| mdorman | k | 16:11 |
| mdorman | so kris you want that action to get something pulled together next week? | 16:11 |
| klindgren | yea | 16:11 |
| VW | it will be hard to get sorrison and CERN at the same time | 16:12 |
| klindgren | well individually :-D | 16:12 |
| mdorman | #action klindgren to organize time next week for carl_baldwin and other operators to discuss neutron segmented networks | 16:12 |
| klindgren | someone be up until midnight - openstack needs you! | 16:12 |
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| carl_baldwin | If we can’t pull everyone together at the same time, I can reach out to subsets of the group individually. | 16:12 |
| mdorman | #action mdorman will coordinate with ben and joel for time to meet at the summit | 16:13 |
| mdorman | anything else about the neutron stuffs right now? | 16:13 |
| carl_baldwin | No, thanks! | 16:13 |
| carl_baldwin | … not from me anyway. | 16:13 |
| klindgren | just: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-neutron-next-ops-painpoints | 16:13 |
| mdorman | appreciate all your work on this stuff carl_baldwin ! | 16:14 |
| mdorman | ah yes. | 16:14 |
| mdorman | #action people should fill in their neutron pain points on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-neutron-next-ops-painpoints | 16:14 |
| carl_baldwin | mdorman: Yes, I nearly forgot. Thanks. | 16:14 |
| mdorman | was there a session scheduled specifically for the pain points discussion? or that’s pending the schedule too? | 16:15 |
| mdorman | carl_baldwin: ^ | 16:15 |
| mriedem | mdorman: your attach/detach interfaces for cells v1 thing is going to run into a testing problem, b/c we don't have a ci job yet for cells + neutron | 16:15 |
| mriedem | mdorman: so i'm taking a look at that since that's a job we want long-term in nova anyway | 16:16 |
| mdorman | mriedem: cool yeah i’ve been seeing your comments come through. | 16:16 |
| carl_baldwin | mdorman: Still pending. | 16:16 |
| mdorman | carl_baldwin: cool thanks | 16:16 |
| carl_baldwin | Actually, we’re working out the schedule now. Hopefully, it won’t take long. | 16:16 |
| mdorman | that’s fine. i’ll watch for that so i can update the LDT etherpad. | 16:17 |
| mdorman | ok everybody happy with neutron topics for now? | 16:17 |
| klindgren | yes | 16:18 |
| DinaBelova | o/ heh, I thought the meeting will be 40 1 hour later :) sorry, joining now :) | 16:18 |
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| mdorman | DinaBelova: np | 16:18 |
| mdorman | #topic Tokyo summit - performance issues | 16:18 |
| mdorman | so this etherpad has grown quite a bit: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-performance-issues | 16:19 |
| klindgren | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-performance-issues | 16:19 |
| DinaBelova | folks, so our session was approved :) | 16:19 |
| DinaBelova | http://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/event/b37803981e2d3e3a93c1bf7f25637fc0#.Vh_AMbzUBcZ | 16:19 |
| mdorman | thinking we check with Tom and see if we can get a separate session for this. | 16:19 |
| DinaBelova | no need :) | 16:19 |
| VW | nice - we were squeezing a ton in to our session | 16:19 |
| DinaBelova | I conquered cross-project session | 16:19 |
| DinaBelova | :) | 16:19 |
| klindgren | awesome | 16:19 |
| DinaBelova | so we'll be able to discuss all in person | 16:20 |
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| mdorman | perfect, thanks DinaBelova | 16:20 |
| DinaBelova | so I encourage you folks to fill the etherpad | 16:20 |
| mdorman | so we’ll redirect the performance issues discussion to that | 16:20 |
| DinaBelova | with the issues you have | 16:21 |
| mdorman | yep there is another etherpad that’s already pretty well filled out, i added htat link to the cross project perf issues etherpad, so you can see that there | 16:21 |
| mdorman | ok so moving on | 16:21 |
| mdorman | #topic Tokyo summit - cells v1 patches | 16:22 |
| mdorman | mriedem has been reviewing the list in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-LDT-cells-patches | 16:22 |
| klindgren | I wont be able to make it to the perf one : - I have the local patches | 16:22 |
| mdorman | this should help us identify some of hte lower hanging fruit so should be able to get merged in quickly | 16:22 |
| klindgren | :-/* | 16:22 |
| mdorman | as well as some of them that are a larger effort and what the path would be to get those in. | 16:22 |
| mdorman | so i am thinking we can kind review those durng teh session and see if we can assign some owners | 16:23 |
| mdorman | seem like a good plan? | 16:23 |
| * VW thanks mdorman for moderating today since he's juggling multiple things | 16:23 | |
| mdorman | np | 16:23 |
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| mriedem | oh there is another meeting, then o/ | 16:24 |
| klindgren | Yea - I like that | 16:24 |
| mdorman | mriedem: confused. is that a question, or statement? | 16:24 |
| mriedem | statement | 16:24 |
| mdorman | kk | 16:24 |
| mriedem | ish | 16:24 |
| klindgren | (he was on beforewhen vw started about 2 hours early) | 16:25 |
| mdorman | #action mdorman to review cells v1 patches details and identify work items that can be assigned out during LDT session | 16:25 |
| mdorman | ah, ok. | 16:25 |
| mdorman | mriedem: anything else to say about the cells v1 stuff? not sure what was missed from the earlier meeting :) | 16:25 |
| mriedem | not really, several of the things in the etherpad look trivial or bug fix worthy, | 16:25 |
| mdorman | cool. that is good to hear | 16:26 |
| mriedem | some of the larger stuff like security groups is going to be rough | 16:26 |
| mdorman | right. | 16:26 |
| mriedem | and anything related to ec2 | 16:26 |
| mriedem | since that's deprecated in nova | 16:26 |
| mdorman | well if nothing else some of the easier stuff will be a win so at least those of us can reduce the number of local patches. | 16:26 |
| mriedem | yup | 16:26 |
| mdorman | yeah i am almost thinking we might just have to ignore any of the ec2 stuff ,for that reason | 16:26 |
| mriedem | i'll be poking around on trying to see if we can find a devstack config that runs tempest ok with cells v1 + neutron since that will be a blocker | 16:27 |
| mdorman | kk | 16:27 |
| mdorman | thanks again for jumping in on this | 16:27 |
| mriedem | np | 16:28 |
| mdorman | alright anyting else for cells v1? | 16:28 |
| klindgren | my though was whatever - didn't get into neutron - we could keep a page/repo around - so people can pull in fixes even if they aren't upstream-able... | 16:28 |
| klindgren | s/neutron nova | 16:28 |
| klindgren | neutron on the brain :-/ | 16:28 |
| mdorman | yeah that’s a good idea klindgren | 16:29 |
| mdorman | ok. | 16:29 |
| mdorman | #topic Tokyo summit - public clouds | 16:29 |
| mdorman | this topic was suggested, i think by geoffarnold?. but we don’t really have any specific agenda items for this | 16:30 |
| mdorman | so was hoping to solicit some here | 16:30 |
| mdorman | or take it to the ML | 16:30 |
| mdorman | any thoughts? | 16:30 |
| drwahl | there is a lot that could be talked about under that topic | 16:31 |
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| drwahl | app catalog stuff, inter-tenant security, quota/billing, monitoring-as-a-service | 16:31 |
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| drwahl | federation | 16:32 |
| mdorman | are those topics that have specific issues/bugs/work that needs done? | 16:32 |
| drwahl | at varying levels, yes | 16:32 |
| mdorman | i would like it to focus on making progress on items rather than just general discussion. | 16:32 |
| drwahl | app catalog essentially doesn't exist yet. federation is essentially non-existant, quota/billing is a complete mess | 16:33 |
| drwahl | monitoring-as-a-service might be a bit of a discussion and could probably be taken out of this scope | 16:33 |
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| mdorman | k. so maybe we can start with a discussion to identify areas that are lacking and/or RFE’s people would like to see? | 16:33 |
| mdorman | and go from there? | 16:33 |
| drwahl | yup, sounds like a good place to start | 16:34 |
| mdorman | cool | 16:34 |
| klindgren | I would settle for some good ol fashioned basics | 16:34 |
| mdorman | heh | 16:34 |
| klindgren | like hierarcical project support | 16:34 |
| mdorman | as in accurately track how much resources a tenant is using? :) | 16:34 |
| klindgren | deletion of a tenant cleaning up resources in other projects | 16:34 |
| klindgren | glance having real quotas | 16:35 |
| klindgren | per tenant quotas | 16:35 |
| mdorman | yup yup | 16:35 |
| drwahl | the whole quotas thing (in all projects) could use a face-lift | 16:35 |
| drwahl | different ways to query current usages (some can't even do that *cough* nova *cough*), no quotas at all, etc. | 16:35 |
| mdorman | yeah. i know there is at least one nova spec working through right now for fixing quotas | 16:36 |
| mdorman | don’t know much about it, but i have seen the activity | 16:36 |
| mdorman | alright, anything else on public clouds topic? | 16:37 |
| * drwahl is content atm | 16:38 | |
| mdorman | #topic Tokyo summit - Glance | 16:38 |
| klindgren | on to glance asks! | 16:38 |
| mdorman | ok, final topic for me | 16:38 |
| mdorman | yes, glance asks | 16:38 |
| VW | indeed | 16:38 |
| klindgren | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/LDT-glance-asks | 16:38 |
| mdorman | last meeting we had talked about a few ideas for glance RFEs, etc. t odiscuss | 16:38 |
| mdorman | nice klindgren, with the ehterpad! | 16:38 |
| mdorman | so do we want that topic to be kind of like public clouds, where we focus on specific gaps and things people want? and then we can go from there? | 16:39 |
| mdorman | in reality if glance is last on the agenda, we may end up with not much time for that topic. | 16:39 |
| VW | I agree mdorman | 16:40 |
| VW | and with everything we are trying to cover, I'm OK with it being last | 16:40 |
| mdorman | +1 | 16:40 |
| mdorman | everybody else on board with that? | 16:40 |
| VW | worst case, we keep it in the mix in the monthly meetings and pick it up at the next Ops mid-cycle | 16:40 |
| drwahl | wfm | 16:40 |
| mdorman | yup yup | 16:40 |
| klindgren | ok with me as well | 16:40 |
| mdorman | does anybody know if th working session rooms are going to be the conference room style like in vancouver? or if we’ll actually have a projector, etc like at the ops meetup? | 16:41 |
| mdorman | #topic Tokyo summit general planning | 16:41 |
| VW | don't know mdorman - re: rooms | 16:42 |
| mdorman | kk, yeah figured as much. doesn’t much matter, was just curious | 16:42 |
| VW | will have to ask tom | 16:42 |
| mdorman | yeah | 16:42 |
| mdorman | ok that’s all teh stuff i wanted to cover re: summit planning. | 16:42 |
| mdorman | #action mdorman to post LDT session info on ML and identify action items for people to work on ahead of summit | 16:42 |
| mdorman | so other discussion topics from folks? | 16:43 |
| drwahl | deafening silence :) | 16:44 |
| mdorman | :) give it a few minutes for everybody to come back from their prod issues to check updates in this window :) | 16:44 |
| mdorman | like VW said earlier, #opslife! | 16:45 |
| * VW lolz for realz | 16:45 | |
| mdorman | haha | 16:45 |
| VW | I think I'm good now. If you guys have the summit session mainly sorted, that's the most important | 16:45 |
| mdorman | wee, fire alarm! | 16:45 |
| VW | sounds like we are finding ways to integrate our subgroups too | 16:45 |
| mdorman | someone else warp up the meeting please. all my stuff is covered | 16:45 |
| VW | which is niiiice! | 16:45 |
| klindgren | So the only thing that I had that is semi LDT related | 16:46 |
| klindgren | was the local patches stuff | 16:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/osops-tools-generic: Support for archiving additional nova tables https://review.openstack.org/229013 | 16:46 |
| VW | and to make sure I followed, klindgren - you have a session for that | 16:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/osops-tools-generic: Add option for pt-archiver --nosafe-auto-increment flag https://review.openstack.org/229015 | 16:46 |
| klindgren | VW I do - normal ops working session | 16:46 |
| VW | cool | 16:46 |
| klindgren | and an actuallly pre-working session | 16:46 |
| VW | nice | 16:46 |
| klindgren | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/operator-local-patches | 16:47 |
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| klindgren | excellent | 16:49 |
| klindgren | anyway if anyone has some local patches - please add them to the etherpad if you haven't already. We have someone common themes identified pre-summit | 16:50 |
| klindgren | so thats a good start | 16:50 |
| VW | email sent, teams harassed, etc | 16:50 |
| klindgren | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eTyH--ZMPD0/VgjkuyIOEuI/AAAAAAAAFxU/LkC99xVkvU8/s1600/excellent-4689_preview.png | 16:50 |
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| klindgren | I htink thats all I had :-D | 16:52 |
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| klindgren | anyone have anythign else? | 16:56 |
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| VW | nope I'm good | 16:56 |
| VW | thanks all for joinging | 16:56 |
| VW | joining even | 16:56 |
| VW | and thanks again mdorman for driving a lot of the summit discussion | 16:56 |
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| drwahl | thanks for your time, everyone! | 16:57 |
| VW | indeed | 16:58 |
| VW | well if there are no objections, then I'll end things | 16:59 |
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| VW | and go back to full on #opslife | 16:59 |
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| VW | as the rest of you will :) | 16:59 |
| klindgren | ha | 16:59 |
| VW | you get a monitoring alert, YOU get a monitoring alert, EVERYONE gets a monitoring alert! | 16:59 |
| VW | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 15 16:59:41 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_deployments_team_monthly_meeting/2015/large_deployments_team_monthly_meeting.2015-10-15-16.01.html | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_deployments_team_monthly_meeting/2015/large_deployments_team_monthly_meeting.2015-10-15-16.01.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_deployments_team_monthly_meeting/2015/large_deployments_team_monthly_meeting.2015-10-15-16.01.log.html | 16:59 |
| klindgren | but my liver can only take so much | 16:59 |
| mdorman | hahah VW | 16:59 |
| mdorman | i’m back: burnt bagel in a toaster | 17:00 |
| VW | ha - you aint kidding, klindgren | 17:00 |
| VW | that sounds more like #dadlife issue mdorman | 17:00 |
| mdorman | heh, indeed | 17:02 |
| mdorman | thursdays i work from my kids’ school, so definitely some excitementthis morning | 17:02 |
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| klindgren | so mdorman - tell the truth - it was *YOUR* burnt bagel in the toaster | 17:38 |
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| mdorman | haha. unlike what seems like a lot of people, i don’t have much trouble with toasters | 18:58 |
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| harlowja | ? | 19:16 |
| harlowja | it was mine :( | 19:16 |
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| wasmum- | klindgren: neutron, have you ever had it conf'd with dual clustered rabbitmq / mirrored queues with the rabbit_hosts= array? | 19:43 |
| mdorman | that is what we have now right klindgren_ ? | 19:48 |
| mdorman | wasmum-: pretty sure that’s what we’re doing. although i have never been 100% clear on what ‘mirrored queues’ exactly means. | 19:49 |
| mdorman | but we run with a 3 node rmq cluster and then all the services are configured with those three hosts in rabbit_hosts | 19:49 |
| wasmum- | mdorman: are you setting an HA policy to all on rabbitMQ | 19:49 |
| mdorman | let me look | 19:50 |
| wasmum- | or are you using the rabbit_ha_queues setting in the openstack config files? | 19:50 |
| wasmum- | mdorman: thanks | 19:50 |
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| klindgren_ | I thought rabbit_ha_queues doesn't do what people though it did anymore? | 19:52 |
| mdorman | wasmum-: looks like we have “ha-all” set on all the queues. | 19:53 |
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| wasmum- | mdorman: thank you sir | 19:54 |
| mdorman | i’mabout 90% sure we do not set rabbit_ha_queues in the config. but let me look. | 19:54 |
| klindgren_ | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/openstack/operators/49194 | 19:54 |
| klindgren_ | IE it use to be a client side config option ot rabbit, but newere rabbitmq its a server side setting | 19:55 |
| mdorman | actually we are setting rabbit_ha_queues=True, at least for nova and neutron. | 19:55 |
| mdorman | klindgren_: are you saying we should make tht false? | 19:55 |
| klindgren_ | mdorman, its working don't touch it :-) | 19:55 |
| klindgren_ | haha | 19:55 |
| klindgren_ | I am saying that I think it doesn't matter anymore with newer rabbitmq's | 19:56 |
| mdorman | haha | 19:57 |
| mdorman | right. | 19:57 |
| klindgren_ | but imho it wouldn't hurt to have rabbitmq policy to ha queues and clients also set to ha queues | 19:57 |
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| wasmum- | i was reading the same info, that rabbit > 3, server side mirroring | 19:59 |
| wasmum- | < 3 client side, thus the rabbit_ha_queues in the configs | 20:00 |
| wasmum- | I'm gonna leave it till it breaks | 20:00 |
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| wasmum- | if mdorman: confirms he has the same settings, I'm ok with that | 20:01 |
| wasmum- | it works better with an array of host vs. a vip in front of the MQ nodes | 20:01 |
| wasmum- | I have been pulling teeth with a vip in front or em | 20:01 |
| mdorman | yeah we have ha set on the rmq cluster side as well as rabbit_ha_queues=true in the openstack service configs. | 20:02 |
| mdorman | and we have had success with that | 20:02 |
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| wasmum- | thanks mdorman: | 20:18 |
| wasmum- | one more quickie - ovs-cleanup.log is it typical to see 'ovs-vsctl: no row "int-br-ex" in table Interface' type messages post cleanup? | 20:19 |
| wasmum- | from what I see, nothing is out of line as far as the network looks like with ovs-vsctl, etcc.... | 20:20 |
| klindgren_ | wasmum-, are you calling that script with all the configs defined? | 20:24 |
| klindgren_ | seems like its expecting you to use vlans or something like that - which you maynot be using and thus nothing to clean up | 20:24 |
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| wasmum- | klindgren: yes. Defining multiple configs on startup | 20:25 |
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| wasmum- | klindgren: agree, I'll keep watching, not worried just curious and probably over cautious | 20:26 |
| wasmum- | thanks! | 20:26 |
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