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| raginbajin | zerda: If you do not care about connectivity. THen I'd just shutdown the VM. Take a snapshot, share it with the other tenant or make it public and then boot from volume. | 16:29 |
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| admin0 | hey all | 18:15 |
| admin0 | has anyone jumped up keystone versions ? | 18:15 |
| admin0 | from icehouse -> liberty | 18:15 |
| admin0 | i have an existing openstack deployment ( icehouse ) .. i want to start a new cluster ( but keep the user.pass and object storage ) and simply add the new one as region2 | 18:16 |
| admin0 | might/would it work ? have anyone done like thi sbefore ? | 18:16 |
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| klindgren | so you are going to have to change from eventlet to wsgi for keystone | 18:47 |
| klindgren | iirc that was done in liberty | 18:48 |
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| xavpaice | to do nova you need to go via Kilo | 18:57 |
| xavpaice | but the keystone change to wsgi isn't a massive difference | 18:58 |
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| admin0 | klindgren: xavpaice ,does my attempted approach even work ? | 19:09 |
| admin0 | have existing cluster in icehouse, upgrade just keystone ..and add second cluster as region | 19:10 |
| xavpaice | I've not tested Icehouse talking to a Liberty keystone - we tend to upgrade each release | 19:10 |
| admin0 | can havana work wtih one region being icehouse, one region being liberty ? | 19:10 |
| xavpaice | havana? Crikey | 19:11 |
| admin0 | ok | 19:11 |
| admin0 | mistyle .. icehouse | 19:11 |
| klindgren | you can run mismatched versions and in the past people have been able to upgrade skipping versions | 19:11 |
| klindgren | by skipping I mean doing all the upgrade steps for each version your are hitting | 19:11 |
| xavpaice | it's well worth doing the upgrades though - lots of stability improvements as well as new features | 19:11 |
| clayton | admin0: it wouldn't surprised me running them in separate regions works just fine | 19:11 |
| admin0 | i want to not touch what is runing .. build a new one .. add as region, share the same swift and provide a migration path ( glance backend is swift ) | 19:12 |
| xavpaice | I'd say it's worth doing some testing just in case, but I would expect it to be OK | 19:13 |
| klindgren | admin0, we have upgraded since havana - assuming you are ok with a control plane down time of < 1 hour. We haven't had any issues - running the same cloud since havan no on kilo - soon to be liberty. | 19:16 |
| xavpaice | +1 | 19:16 |
| klindgren | havana now* | 19:16 |
| xavpaice | our downtime has been very short if we upgrade each component at a time, and nasty if we go 'big bang' | 19:17 |
| admin0 | the icehouse we have now is heavily patched by my predecessors and without docuemnt, i do not want to touch what is working | 19:17 |
| xavpaice | ouchy - fair call | 19:17 |
| admin0 | just declare it as EOL and try to provide a migration path | 19:17 |
| klindgren | for us its usually ~ a 2-3 week effort or so to move all of our envs to the latest release. | 19:17 |
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| klindgren | including all moving up all the patches we have to the latest version | 19:17 |
| klindgren | but thats fair if you are taking something over | 19:17 |
| admin0 | instead of building a new cluster, i think just upgrading keystone so that keystone/swift are shared and adding the 2nd one as region-2 might save me a lot of migration/billing etc | 19:18 |
| admin0 | hmm.. mysqldump keystone only , restore .. insteall juno kilo liberty virtualenvs .. run migrate_db in each .. cross fingers :D | 19:19 |
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| klindgren | I have never personaly attempt to run versions that far apart - so you might want to try it out in a test env and see if it works - but assuming no major changes to the api - I would guess it should just work. | 19:23 |
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| admin0 | has keystone api changed a lot ? | 19:26 |
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| admin0 | another question .. with regions i can have 2 separate clsuters right ? one ubuntu, one redhat .. and it should not matter .. | 19:35 |
| xavpaice | can't see why that would be an issue | 19:35 |
| admin0 | :) | 19:35 |
| klindgren | the os should not be an issue | 19:36 |
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| raginbajin | Just to throw a nugget out there, we just discovered that neutron agent for versions fc23 and el7 have files that are different. They are the same version, release, minor, major, etc, etc but code is a bit different here and there. | 19:52 |
| raginbajin | We were going to do a patch to our neutron-agent to fix an iptables delete issue that was fixed in kilo, and the patch fits fine in el7, but tried to run the patch on fc23, failed.. Files were different. now, its a couple of lines difference, not too sure if it was code, but still different | 19:54 |
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| klindgren | sounds like el7 and fc23 had different patches applied by redhat. I am pretty sure they use delorean for all that stuff | 20:18 |
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| mriedem | klindgren: surprise! | 21:35 |
| mriedem | klindgren: could you or minions help fill this out? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cells-networking-use-cases | 21:35 |
| jlk | asking again during work hours | 21:36 |
| jlk | Anybody doing libvirt with TLS for live migration? Any of you using a custom path for the cacert.pem file? | 21:36 |
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| clayton | not us | 21:38 |
| clayton | in the clear until the PCI DSS people tell us not to | 21:38 |
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| jlk | lol, yeah :( | 22:02 |
| jlk | I /think/ there is a bug somewhere in libvirt that it ignores settings for cert file location, and uses hard coded (incredibly generic) locations | 22:02 |
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| mfisch | mgagne: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1549516 | 23:38 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1549516 in oslo.db "Too many reconnections to the SQLalchemy engine" [Undecided,New] | 23:38 |
| mfisch | the oslo db there fixes some of your select 1 complaints I think | 23:38 |
| mgagne | :D | 23:39 |
| jlk | YUP! Found the libvirt bug. | 23:40 |
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