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| dmsimard | jlk: one of us, one of us :P | 02:03 |
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| klindgren_ | jlk - whats the link to the libvirt bug? (sorry if I missed it - I got disco'd earlier) | 02:31 |
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| xavpaice | oooh, same | 03:28 |
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| tuurev | Hi, could you provide an opinion, as openstack does not have ipv6 floating IPs, how do You see, what would be the way to provide VIPs (service IP addrs) for IPv6 services? | 12:49 |
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| jlk | klindgren_: oh I haven't filed the bug yet. I want to talk with the upstream dev first. It might just be a thing they never anticipated. | 15:59 |
| jlk | tuurev: LBaaS | 15:59 |
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| tuurev | jlk: ack, currently it's just missing support for UDP :) | 16:46 |
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| klindgren_ | what are you loadbalancing via udp? | 17:06 |
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| klindgren_ | If dns/ntp highly suggest using anycast or something similar for that. | 17:07 |
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| tuurev | klindgren_: radius | 17:25 |
| klindgren_ | kk | 17:26 |
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| klindgren_ | mriedem, we added some stuff in there having someone else do some additions/clean up to the brain dump that I gave. | 18:47 |
| mriedem | klindgren_: i saw, thanks | 18:47 |
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| klindgren_ | unsure if that was the info you were after or not | 18:48 |
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| mdorman | mriedem / klindgren_ finished my edits on that etherpad. | 20:29 |
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| jlk | Anybody using Ceph? Maybe in small clusters? Have performance issues with restarting the ceph osd services? | 21:50 |
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| raginbajin | Yep. | 21:54 |
| raginbajin | jlk You are going to have a storm that will occur when the osd have to move all the pg's around. | 21:55 |
| raginbajin | So the disks are going to be super busy and basically bring the system to a halt if you don't properly tweak values to ensure only a few osd's are worked on at a time | 21:55 |
| jlk | so I"ve just learned. Simply restarting the service is making things really shitty for 10~ minutes | 21:55 |
| jlk | seriously ceph, hav eyou not heard of a reload to re-read config file? | 21:55 |
| jlk | COME ON. | 21:55 |
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| raginbajin | You can do do live updates of the config file | 21:56 |
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| raginbajin | no need to restart to reload. | 21:56 |
| raginbajin | Just update the conf file, and then live update and be done | 21:56 |
| jlk | oh? | 21:57 |
| jlk | what's the live update? | 21:57 |
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| raginbajin | something like this ceph tell osd.* injectargs '--osd_backfill_scan_min 16 --osd_backfill_scan_max 32 --osd_recovery_op_priority 1' | 21:57 |
| xavpaice | jlk: we've had to do things like increase the allowable downtime for an OSD before it's marked as out - otherwise rebooting a box causes the same PG storm | 21:57 |
| xavpaice | raginbajin: that's the approach we take too, and then make sure ceph.conf matches afterwards | 21:57 |
| xavpaice | works OK till we stuff it up | 21:57 |
| jlk | raginbajin: oh, that's just manually transposing config options into ceph commands | 21:58 |
| jlk | HOPE YOU GET THEM RIGHT | 21:58 |
| raginbajin | jlk yeah | 21:58 |
| jlk | I was hoping for something more built in | 21:58 |
| raginbajin | ahh gotcha | 21:58 |
| raginbajin | yeah no such luck. | 21:59 |
| xavpaice | ceph osd reload... would be nice | 21:59 |
| xavpaice | the smaller the cluster, the more potential pain - we started with only 3 hosts and a dead OSD would floor the entire cluster till it rebalanced | 21:59 |
| raginbajin | xavpaice definitely make things a lot nicer and less opportunity for wanting to jump off a cliff when I mess it up | 22:00 |
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| raginbajin | I really think getting going with ceph is actually really hard | 22:00 |
| raginbajin | The whole stuff around osd_recovery_op, and the amount of pg's | 22:00 |
| xavpaice | it looks so easy from the docs, then it gets hard in real life, real quick | 22:00 |
| raginbajin | and not very clear this is how you start with something of reasonable size and not just on your laptop. | 22:01 |
| xavpaice | small ceph clusters are an entirely different beast to the thousand node clusters | 22:01 |
| raginbajin | I'm afraid that I'll really mess up a bigger cluster if I can't manage a small one effectively.. | 22:02 |
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| raginbajin | But to give ceph its due, you can go a pretty long while before needing to mess with anything. It's almost set and forget. | 22:02 |
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| xavpaice | it's recovered itself for a us a few times faster than we could have reacted, and customer uptime has been wonderful | 22:04 |
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