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| mrhillsman | morning folks, ops meetup team meeting in a few minutes | 14:57 |
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| izaakk | o/ | 15:01 |
| mrhillsman | #startmeeting Ops Meetup Team | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 28 15:01:11 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mrhillsman. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team' | 15:01 |
| mrhillsman | #topic RollCall! | 15:01 |
| mrhillsman | anyone here for the ops meetup meeting? | 15:01 |
| raddaoui | hi I am here :) | 15:02 |
| mrhillsman | today's agenda - #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 15:03 |
| izaakk | o/ | 15:03 |
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| mrhillsman | will give everyone a few more minutes :) | 15:03 |
| mihalis68 | I'm here but my day already involves the words "backups" "restore" and "disclose" | 15:04 |
| VW | hey mrhillsman - have a conflicting meeting with my whole team today at 9:15. Sorry that I won't be much help this week | 15:04 |
| VW | let me know if I need to work on anything | 15:05 |
| mrhillsman | thx | 15:05 |
| mrhillsman | mihalis68 and VW for the update | 15:05 |
| mrhillsman | #topic Review Last Week's Action Items | 15:06 |
| mrhillsman | so everything from last week was completed | 15:06 |
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| mrhillsman | zioproto did you get any response/feedback from the ML/usergroups | 15:06 |
| zioproto | hello | 15:07 |
| zioproto | thanks for pinging me | 15:07 |
| mrhillsman | welcome | 15:07 |
| zioproto | no I did not get any response | 15:07 |
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| mrhillsman | ok cool | 15:07 |
| emccormick | o/ sorry for the lateness | 15:08 |
| zioproto | the mailing list is pretty silent | 15:08 |
| mrhillsman | no worries, thanks for reaching out to them | 15:08 |
| mrhillsman | hopefully though silent they signed up via eventbrite | 15:09 |
| mrhillsman | moving on to the next one | 15:09 |
| mrhillsman | #topic Milan | 15:09 |
| raddaoui | I got back 4 responses from the french openstack mailing that they are coming. I can try same with the german | 15:09 |
| mrhillsman | we have 82 folks now :) | 15:09 |
| mrhillsman | nice raddaoui | 15:09 |
| mihalis68 | Just FYI Tom is on vacation else might have given us an Eventbrite count | 15:09 |
| mrhillsman | you did mention that, totally forgot | 15:09 |
| mrhillsman | please proceed with reaching out to german groups/ML | 15:09 |
| mihalis68 | Oh nice! | 15:09 |
| raddaoui | sure | 15:10 |
| mrhillsman | yeah, he sent via his notice he was on vacay | 15:10 |
| mrhillsman | it would probably be good to go ahead and do another email this week | 15:11 |
| mrhillsman | we are like right there | 15:11 |
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| mrhillsman | 11 more since the last meeting | 15:11 |
| mrhillsman | we are just 18 away from full house | 15:11 |
| mrhillsman | #action mrhillsman send another email to ML to encourage sign up | 15:12 |
| mrhillsman | for the schedule | 15:12 |
| mrhillsman | all the etherpads i knew to create have been created | 15:12 |
| mrhillsman | and the moderators reached out to | 15:12 |
| mrhillsman | if we can please review to make sure i did not miss anything that would be great | 15:12 |
| mrhillsman | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MIL-ops-meetup | 15:12 |
| mrhillsman | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MIL-ops-meetup | 15:12 |
| mrhillsman | additionally if we can encourage folks to start adding stuff to them that would be good too | 15:13 |
| mrhillsman | and some folks have already grabbed sessions | 15:13 |
| mrhillsman | each one listed on the spreadsheet have confirmed they will do the session(s) assigned | 15:13 |
| mrhillsman | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EUSYMs3GfglnD8yfFaAXWhLe0F5y9hCUKqCYe0Vp1oA/edit#gid=2006054635 | 15:13 |
| mrhillsman | but we still have some gaps | 15:14 |
| mrhillsman | which i assume folks will fill | 15:14 |
| mrhillsman | but one thing discussed with the UC and PWG folks is having some actionable items to take away from the sessions | 15:14 |
| izaakk | mrhillsman: what kind of gaps? | 15:14 |
| mrhillsman | otherwise we are just having expensive conversations :) | 15:14 |
| emccormick | wasn't there someone from the Cinder team coming that could cover that Cinder session? | 15:15 |
| mrhillsman | gaps for moderators | 15:15 |
| mrhillsman | that would be great | 15:15 |
| mrhillsman | i did not know | 15:15 |
| emccormick | They were the one that suggested the session. I forget who it was though. | 15:15 |
| emccormick | looking... | 15:15 |
| mrhillsman | thx | 15:15 |
| mrhillsman | i only added folks who confirmed via email | 15:16 |
| mrhillsman | i may have missed one or two :) | 15:16 |
| emccormick | smcginnis | 15:16 |
| mrhillsman | ah ok | 15:16 |
| mrhillsman | i can hit sean up | 15:17 |
| mrhillsman | just to confirm | 15:17 |
| mrhillsman | thank you sir | 15:17 |
| emccormick | np :) | 15:17 |
| mrhillsman | i'll check for any nova folks who will attend and in general for the others | 15:17 |
| mrhillsman | just a few so i do not think we will have an issue | 15:17 |
| mrhillsman | on a side note, back to the having some actionable items, i'm going to also work to grab stuff from previous midcycles | 15:18 |
| mrhillsman | and anything extra i can find to assist with filling out the etherpads | 15:18 |
| mrhillsman | any help along those lines (primarily from moderators) would be great :) | 15:18 |
| mrhillsman | anything else for Milan? | 15:18 |
| mrhillsman | mariano does not look to be here but i think things are going as needed for sponsorships | 15:19 |
| mrhillsman | i am waiting to hear back from rackspace on the evening event but not sure how that will turn out at this point being so close | 15:19 |
| mrhillsman | moving on :) | 15:20 |
| mrhillsman | #topic Mid-Year Mid-cycle | 15:20 |
| mrhillsman | izaakk can you provide an update on this one | 15:20 |
| izaakk | So, I sent out emails last week. Guadalajara hasn't confirmed any details yet | 15:21 |
| mrhillsman | i know you made contact with a great organization in Mexico City | 15:21 |
| izaakk | Mexico city | 15:21 |
| izaakk | is more likely to happen | 15:21 |
| izaakk | they will send me a list of possible venues this week | 15:21 |
| mrhillsman | awesome | 15:21 |
| izaakk | I'll follow up and take Guadalajara as a backup | 15:21 |
| mrhillsman | perfect | 15:22 |
| izaakk | Will share as soon as I hear back from them | 15:22 |
| mrhillsman | #action izaakk to follow up with Mexico City for Mid-year and Guadalajara as backup | 15:22 |
| mrhillsman | ty sir | 15:22 |
| izaakk | anytime :) | 15:22 |
| mrhillsman | on to the next one :) | 15:22 |
| mrhillsman | unless someone has questions? | 15:22 |
| mrhillsman | #topic Boston Forum | 15:23 |
| mrhillsman | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-UC-brainstorming | 15:23 |
| mrhillsman | an email went out from the UC requesting that operators participate heavily in this | 15:23 |
| mrhillsman | we will probably have to do a lot more encouraging/prodding so to everyone here who can send an email to just one and encourage them to email another we can get this going i think quickly | 15:24 |
| mrhillsman | any questions/concerns around the forum? | 15:25 |
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| emccormick | my brain hurts from this too much to think about that yet :D | 15:26 |
| mrhillsman | if i am moving to fast let me know :) | 15:26 |
| mrhillsman | haha | 15:26 |
| mrhillsman | ok cool moving along | 15:26 |
| mrhillsman | #topic Reginal event discussions | 15:26 |
| mrhillsman | #topic Regional event discussions | 15:26 |
| mrhillsman | we had an interesting discussion started here | 15:27 |
| mihalis68 | I suppose late October would be too late for the mid-cycle if in Mexico City (I'm an F1 fan and there's a race there!) | 15:27 |
| mrhillsman | anything to follow up on? | 15:27 |
| mrhillsman | hehe | 15:27 |
| mrhillsman | yeah, probably too late mihalis68 :( | 15:28 |
| emccormick | Yeah considering SYD is the first week of November ;) | 15:28 |
| mihalis68 | heh yeah I know :) | 15:28 |
| mrhillsman | i think we can table this until maybe after Milan | 15:28 |
| mrhillsman | thoughts? | 15:28 |
| mihalis68 | As I recall I said I would pull together a Wiki page on openstack.org to connect the mid-cycles and the other events in one place | 15:29 |
| emccormick | I think that's fine. At some point we need to circle back to working up our process on a wiki | 15:29 |
| izaakk | For the regional thing, I guess we can figure something out to scout the region and what are their interests/needs? | 15:29 |
| mihalis68 | I think that dropped off the actions list but I'm still up for it | 15:29 |
| emccormick | I think that's step 1 for any fostering of regional events | 15:29 |
| mihalis68 | action me again? | 15:29 |
| mrhillsman | #action mihalis68 pull together a Wiki page on openstack.org to connect the mid-cycles and the other events in one place | 15:29 |
| mrhillsman | #chair mihalis68 | 15:29 |
| openstack | Current chairs: mihalis68 mrhillsman | 15:29 |
| mrhillsman | ohh it does work :) | 15:29 |
| mrhillsman | ok cool | 15:30 |
| mihalis68 | nice! | 15:30 |
| mihalis68 | I have rights on that wiki so it's easy enough and it's a very nice looking wikki | 15:30 |
| mrhillsman | agreed izaakk and we should probably have that on the wiki | 15:30 |
| mrhillsman | good stuff mihalis68 looking forward to it | 15:31 |
| mihalis68 | initially we were going to list known things so mid-cycles and the APAC events in China and Japan discussed previously | 15:31 |
| mrhillsman | #action mrhillsman start a google doc to capture ideas regarding regional events and ops support | 15:32 |
| mrhillsman | i'll grab the thoughts from last week as well that shintaro shared and we can consolidate/aggregate in prep for the wiki page | 15:32 |
| mrhillsman | maybe have like a best practices or how-to section | 15:32 |
| mrhillsman | he had some good thoughts on what worked for them in JP | 15:33 |
| mrhillsman | anything else on this one? | 15:33 |
| mrhillsman | #topic Themed Mid-cycle | 15:33 |
| mrhillsman | again, i think something we should probably create a shared doc for and capture thoughts ideas | 15:34 |
| izaakk | +1 | 15:34 |
| mrhillsman | i think we were generally in agreement on the idea being workable though not specific on the implementation | 15:34 |
| emccormick | indeed | 15:34 |
| mrhillsman | cool | 15:35 |
| mrhillsman | #action mrhillsman create shared doc to capture thoughts regarding themed mid-cycle | 15:35 |
| mrhillsman | #topic Open Discussion | 15:35 |
| mrhillsman | we are at the end of the agenda | 15:35 |
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| mrhillsman | anything anyone would like to circle back around to or new to bring up? | 15:35 |
| mihalis68 | I'm gonna guess you didn't find out anything notable about tooling possibilities for this team? | 15:36 |
| mihalis68 | I didn't and I keep meaning to | 15:36 |
| mrhillsman | i did not pursue the conversation unfortunately | 15:36 |
| mrhillsman | i will do so when tom is back, cool? | 15:36 |
| mihalis68 | that's ok, neither did anyone else | 15:36 |
| mrhillsman | apologies mihalis68 | 15:36 |
| mrhillsman | hehe | 15:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | where is the best place to advertise some nova specs from the PTG that would be worth a look? is the mailing list best for that? | 15:37 |
| mrhillsman | but we talked about this and i did volunteer to lead it | 15:37 |
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| mrhillsman | how soon do you need them looked at johnthetubaguy | 15:37 |
| mihalis68 | I'm gonna go offtopic and boast here. No progress on operators tooling, however Bloomberg is now all OpenStack Liberty!! | 15:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | ideally fairly soon, to get input before the get approved | 15:38 |
| mrhillsman | yeah, ML best | 15:38 |
| mrhillsman | i'll send a reminder every couple days too :) | 15:38 |
| mrhillsman | i'm ok with playing the annoying guy | 15:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | mrhillsman: you thinking about the ops meetup thing in milan as the alternative I guess? | 15:38 |
| mrhillsman | yeah | 15:38 |
| mrhillsman | i did not know how soon you wanted eyes on them | 15:38 |
| emccormick | Congrats mihalis68! Welcome back to the other side of EOL? :D | 15:38 |
| mrhillsman | hehe | 15:39 |
| mihalis68 | we will go mitaka more quickly | 15:39 |
| mrhillsman | indeed congrats mihalis68 | 15:39 |
| mihalis68 | engineering is done adapting that for us for the most part | 15:39 |
| mihalis68 | we want to be on the most recent release that's got some mileage and proving out | 15:39 |
| mihalis68 | like it wouldn't be ocata just yet | 15:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | mrhillsman: do you know if we have a Nova person going to milan to discuss them with you all? | 15:39 |
| mrhillsman | i do not but took action during this meeting to find out | 15:40 |
| mrhillsman | i could sure use your help to find out :) | 15:40 |
| mrhillsman | and would love for them to lead the related session | 15:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | the problem was in the PTG feedback session, like three people put their hands up saying they had budget approval / were going to milan | 15:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I don't know of any cores going there sadly | 15:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | I could probably vidyo conference in to answer questions, if thats possible, given its in my timezone (almost) | 15:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, can take that offline | 15:41 |
| emccormick | I'm always -1 on releases, but thanks to the short Ocata release I'm -2 for the first time in a while. Kinda bummed about it actually ;) | 15:41 |
| mrhillsman | yes, let's discuss friday johnthetubaguy ? | 15:41 |
| mrhillsman | right before or shortly after meeting? | 15:41 |
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| mrhillsman | maybe give us a couple of days to find someone if possible | 15:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | mrhillsman: can do, I will try get that ML post out soon ish, list of specs is on the way | 15:42 |
| mrhillsman | awesome, ty sir | 15:42 |
| emccormick | I wouldn't think it'd be a big deal to throw a single skype session up on the screen either | 15:42 |
| mrhillsman | #action mrhillsman to follow up with johnthetubaguy regarding nova in milan | 15:42 |
| mrhillsman | it would be awesome if we could emccormick | 15:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | emccormick: yeah, 1:m is possible like that | 15:43 |
| emccormick | remote moderating with someone local to act as your hands ;) | 15:43 |
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| mrhillsman | sounds like a plan to me :) | 15:43 |
| mrhillsman | will check with mariano on the logistics | 15:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | the many people remote to many people in the room totally doesn't work, but yeah 1:m has worked for us in Nova in the past | 15:43 |
| emccormick | yeah one remote to many local shouldn't be a problem | 15:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | honestly, just at the end of the phone line, with an OK mic would be fine | 15:44 |
| mrhillsman | #action mrhillsman check with mariano on milan logistics for 1:m remote | 15:44 |
| emccormick | no special equipment needed really | 15:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | by phone line, I mean laptop, lol | 15:44 |
| mrhillsman | hehe | 15:44 |
| mrhillsman | i was about to say | 15:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, we can explore options on that | 15:44 |
| mrhillsman | indeed, thx for dropping in johnthetubaguy | 15:45 |
| mrhillsman | anything else folks | 15:45 |
| mrhillsman | i can give you back 15 minutes :) | 15:45 |
| emccormick | btw on the many to many topic, I'm going to remotely attend the next ARIN meeting. I'm mainly curious how they pull it off | 15:45 |
| mrhillsman | let us know | 15:45 |
| mrhillsman | i think remote is a great option to have | 15:46 |
| emccormick | I'd rather go to New Orleans, but I just can't justify it ;) | 15:46 |
| mrhillsman | lol | 15:46 |
| mrhillsman | going to end meeting if nothing else | 15:46 |
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| emccormick | +1 | 15:46 |
| mihalis68 | +1 | 15:47 |
| mihalis68 | thanks for chairing mrhillsman! | 15:47 |
| mrhillsman | alright, thanks everyone! | 15:47 |
| mrhillsman | most welcome :) | 15:47 |
| mrhillsman | you was a chair too :) | 15:47 |
| mrhillsman | #endmeeting | 15:47 |
| mihalis68 | ha ha yes | 15:47 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 28 15:47:26 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2017/ops_meetup_team.2017-02-28-15.01.html | 15:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2017/ops_meetup_team.2017-02-28-15.01.txt | 15:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2017/ops_meetup_team.2017-02-28-15.01.log.html | 15:47 |
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| mrhillsman | have a good one everyone! | 15:47 |
| emccormick | yt | 15:47 |
| mihalis68 | you too! | 15:47 |
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| shewless | Hello. Is there a way to support tokenless authorization in openstack? | 19:26 |
| shewless | For example is X.509 still supported? I thought I read support for that is deprecated | 19:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Robert Putt proposed openstack/osops-tools-contrib master: Catch up the flavor as specified in the config file instead of {{openstack_flavors[0].id}} https://review.openstack.org/394467 | 21:13 |
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| shewless | Hi. If I have openstack mitaka installed on ubuntu 16.04 would it be advisable to upgrade keystone (just keystone) to version 10? | 21:39 |
| shewless | I would like to do this to try out "trusts" | 21:39 |
| shewless | without upgrading my entire environment | 21:40 |
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