Monday, 2014-09-01

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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/oslo.i18n: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/11655306:17
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openstackgerritBaohua Yang proposed a change to openstack/oslo.config: When check if the option is already registered, also check cli.  https://review.openstack.org/11809506:58
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abhishekkflaper87:hi, you around?06:59
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flaper87abhishekk: yes06:59
openstackgerritBaohua Yang proposed a change to openstack/oslo.config: Check cli when checking if the option is already registered.  https://review.openstack.org/11809507:00
abhishekkflaper87:when you get some time could you please put your thoughts on patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103186/6/07:00
flaper87abhishekk: sure thing07:02
abhishekkflaper87:thank you07:02
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openstackgerritVictor Sergeyev proposed a change to openstack/oslo.db: Fix DBReferenceError on MySQL and SQLite  https://review.openstack.org/11632407:45
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openstackgerritBaohua Yang proposed a change to openstack/oslo.config: Check cli when checking if the option is already registered.  https://review.openstack.org/11809508:29
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openstackgerritAndrey Kurilin proposed a change to openstack/oslo.db: Use oslo.i18n  https://review.openstack.org/11725708:48
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openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/oslo.db: Add doc8 to tox environment docs  https://review.openstack.org/11400309:36
openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/oslo.db: Add doc8 to tox environment docs  https://review.openstack.org/11400309:40
openstackgerritRossella Sblendido proposed a change to openstack/oslo.db: Retry query if db deadlock error is received  https://review.openstack.org/10954909:43
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openstackgerritBaohua Yang proposed a change to openstack/oslo.config: Check cli when checking if the option is already registered  https://review.openstack.org/11809510:56
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/oslo.db: ModelsMigrationsSync: Add check for foreign keys  https://review.openstack.org/11623811:16
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/oslo.db: Repair pysqlite transaction support  https://review.openstack.org/11315211:20
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Add field_labels parameter to cliutils.print_list  https://review.openstack.org/11397815:40
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Make version.py handle pbr not being installed  https://review.openstack.org/11819216:50
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Make version.py handle pbr not being installed  https://review.openstack.org/11819216:51
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openstackgerritMichael Bayer proposed a change to openstack/oslo-specs: Add long-lived-transactionalized-db-fixtures  https://review.openstack.org/11733517:42
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zzzeekif we can get https://review.openstack.org/117335 all signed off on, I can get on with updating the patches and we can have it!   woop19:14
* zzzeek remembers the good old days when people read the open IRC channel19:20
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dhellmannzzzeek: I think most of our cores are off for labor day today19:33
zzzeekyup :)19:33
zzzeekdhellmann: if i were to put my projects on stackforge, does that take over the release process as well?  or can stackforge be used as just one system of pushing code into a repo that has other sources of contribution and changes ?19:39
dhellmannzzzeek: you can tag releases on stackforge and they will be published to pypi19:40
dhellmannzzzeek: or you can do it on your own, if you prefer19:40
zzzeekdhellmann: my interest in stackforge is to get at the development resources of folks whose employers let them do anything as long as it appears on stackalytics19:40
dhellmannzzzeek: the intent is for stackforge to be the repository of record, though, because you can't just push code there so it becomes harder to merge stuff back upstream if contributions come from elsewhere19:41
dhellmannzzzeek: sure19:41
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zzzeekdhellmann: OK….is stackforge a system I can move my project into, and remove someday, freely?  or does it become legally part of them in some way ?19:42
dhellmannzzzeek: I think you can move it back out, although because of the way gerrit works it will still stay in the stackforge-attic19:42
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zzzeekdhellmann: sure.19:43
dhellmannzzzeek: you may want to ask the infra team if they've ever had anyone move a project out of stackforge before; I'm not aware of any cases myself19:43
zzzeekdhellmann: if i moved to stackforge, it would likely stay there :)  jsut wondering if there are legal bindings19:43
zzzeekdhellmann: i like the stackforge approach anyway and ive been trying to replicate some elements on my own, i like a lot that people ahve to get their damn code contributions perfect before they go in19:44
dhellmannzzzeek: yeah, pre-merge testing provides a whole new level of reliability on submissions19:45
zzzeekdhellmann: i ahve some of that working on my own jenkins set up with github pull requests.  but the big issue is, it’s not secure, i have to hand-run every patch b.c. otherwise anyone could send a PR with arbitrary code19:46
zzzeekhow does stackforge deal with that, just that you have to sign up with your full name and address?19:46
dhellmannzzzeek: yeah, we know who you are if you're contributing19:47
dhellmannzzzeek: gerrit requires the CLA, I think, although that may be per-project19:47
zzzeekdhellmann: yup19:47
zzzeekdhellmann: side question, what happens if i check out someone’s gerrit review and then “git review” it myself, does it push to their review or does it make a new one under my name?19:47
dhellmannif you keep the change id in the commit message the same, it will push to their review19:48
zzzeekok19:49
dhellmannwe use that to fix nits, but some gerrit deployments have it turned off to prevent "hijacking"19:49
zzzeekb.c. i would want to deal with people who do half of something and then vanish :)19:49
dhellmannexactly19:49
zzzeeki get PRs constantly that are 80%, and then i have to fix them19:49
zzzeekdhellmann: does stackforge imply using testr, changelog formatting of some type, version number schemes, etc ?   the docs dont’ seem too specific as to what is implied by moving...19:50
dhellmannzzzeek: no, stackforge is a little more free-form. You would only need to do those things if you wanted an official program to adopt something19:51
zzzeekdhellmann: great19:51
dhellmannstackforge is for experimentation and to provide resources to libraries we use that needed help (WSME and Pecan are good examples of those)19:51
zzzeekdhellmann: but these folks with the “my boss only lets me work on stackalytics projects”, I still get them right ? :)19:51
harlowja_at_homezzzeek,  u need to find a better boss ;)19:52
dhellmannas long as stackforge counts for them :-)19:52
harlowja_at_homeoh, other peoples bosses, lol19:52
zzzeekharlowja_at_home: i can work on SQLA all i want :)19:52
harlowja_at_homeok, phew, lol19:52
zzzeekharlowja_at_home: yes.  the other day someone asksed if i needded help, and i said, “plenty”, and then i showed him alembic, sqla, and hes like oh, sorry…cant work on those!19:52
zzzeekwhich is …um fucking stupid!19:52
harlowja_at_homeya, that sucks19:53
zzzeekso if i have to go on this thing to get free work, i need to look into it19:53
zzzeekits basically like being funded19:53
harlowja_at_homethis is when i'd say to that person, go look @ https://github.com/openstack/requirements ; those all support openstack, so wtf u talking about person, lol19:53
harlowja_at_homeif the libraries in https://github.com/openstack/requirements don't work, openstack don't work... yadayada19:53
zzzeekforggot who it was, but he said, i can only work on things that are on stackalytics so my company moves up on the chart19:53
harlowja_at_homelol19:53
zzzeeki have no clue why they care about that19:54
harlowja_at_homepointy haired managers...19:54
zzzeekharlowja_at_home: i think those companies want to be seen as well regarded openstack vendors and point clients to their contributions19:54
zzzeekharlowja_at_home: but seems like an enormously expensive way to get free advertising...19:55
harlowja_at_homedef19:55
harlowja_at_homeespecially knowing how long patches take to get in :-P19:55
zzzeektahts how the internet works though…make a graph or a chart or a webpage with people’s companies listed, and there’s your economy19:55
harlowja_at_homemake a graph with all the openstack projects having arrows to sqlalachemy, maybe that will help :-P19:58
harlowja_at_homeand put a couple extra arrows in, just cause19:58
dhellmannharlowja_at_home: speaking of project management, I went ahead and moved https://launchpad.net/taskflow under the new oslo project group on launchpad19:59
zzzeekthere is a huge amount of grunt work that really would be super helpful if a few folks could just get into it for a few months19:59
harlowja_at_homedhellmann,  cool19:59
harlowja_at_homedhellmann,  what does that change, just where it shows up?20:00
dhellmannit means the bugs and blueprints will be part of the unified view under the project group, so you don't have to file them against "oslo" any more20:00
harlowja_at_homek20:01
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Make version.py handle pbr not being installed  https://review.openstack.org/11819220:10
dhellmannharlowja_at_home: is there any reason to keep the pbr logic in ^^?20:14
harlowja_at_homedhellmann,  dev envs?20:14
harlowja_at_homethats the only reason i was thinking20:14
* dhellmann shrugs20:14
harlowja_at_homeya, i'm mostly shrug on it also, but doesn't seem to hurt20:14
dhellmannok20:14
harlowja_at_homethx, now to see if sphinx stop failing20:16
harlowja_at_homehttps://bitbucket.org/birkenfeld/sphinx/issue/1553 seemed to happen eariler today (hopefully fixed)20:16
harlowja_at_homedamn labor on labor day, guess i should do something else, ha20:17
harlowja_at_homedhellmann, an intersting kind of thing to think about, kombu just got the qpid driver merged, i wonder if that means oslo.messaging can start shrink (kombu also has a zeromq driver) ...20:20
dhellmannharlowja_at_home: that would be useful20:20
harlowja_at_homei added that comment sorta to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75815/ (which seems to be another driver that might be better at home in kombu itself)20:20
harlowja_at_homeinteresting feedback...20:21
harlowja_at_homei start to feel like we should just try to make kombu better, but idk, just my personal feeling20:22
dhellmannyeah, where that's possible we should, but there's always the question of what that team wants kombu to be20:22
harlowja_at_homeisn't that always a question of all projects ;)20:22
harlowja_at_homeand u work together with others to create a best of breed project and such20:23
dhellmannthat's the goal20:23
harlowja_at_homei guess i just feel wider adoption into say kombu could be better for everyone, less openstack specific things imho == better (easier to get people that aren't involved in openstack to maintain them and help and ...)20:27
harlowja_at_homeanywaysssss, bbl20:27
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo.db: Fix formatting of usage.rst  https://review.openstack.org/11821420:36
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Mark middleware as obsolete  https://review.openstack.org/11821520:40
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Mark jsonutils as obsolete  https://review.openstack.org/11821720:45
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Mark oslo.concurrency modules as obsolete  https://review.openstack.org/11821820:57
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Mark oslo.concurrency modules as obsolete  https://review.openstack.org/11821821:06
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Mark jsonutils as obsolete  https://review.openstack.org/11821721:07
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Mark oslo.utils modules obsolete  https://review.openstack.org/11761621:08
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Mark middleware as obsolete  https://review.openstack.org/11821521:09
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Mark log code as graduating  https://review.openstack.org/11761521:10
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Mark jsonutils as obsolete  https://review.openstack.org/11821721:24
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Update list of oslo libs in update.py  https://review.openstack.org/11724121:24
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