Wednesday, 2016-08-24

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pvinciCan anyone review this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358359/  Thank you.00:13
kfox1111harlowja: got it...00:21
kfox1111http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.middleware/api.html00:21
kfox1111the docs say /status00:21
harlowjaarg00:21
kfox1111but other parts of th edocs say /healthcheck.00:21
harlowjai wonder how long thats been out of date :(00:21
kfox1111I could have swarn I tried both, but maybe I typo'ed /healthcheck00:21
kfox1111now I shoudl be able to do a fully kubernetes managed rolling upgrade. :)00:23
kfox1111minor upgrade that is.00:23
harlowjawoot00:25
harlowjalet me fix that doc, or if u want to00:25
kfox1111thanks for the help. :)00:25
kfox1111yeah. please do. :)00:25
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harlowja:)00:31
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.cache: Fix OpenStack capitalization  https://review.openstack.org/34815601:27
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.db: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/35952201:37
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.log: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/35952301:37
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/35952401:37
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/35952501:37
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/35952601:37
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openstackgerritHiroyuki Eguchi proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Fix failure of updating old version object  https://review.openstack.org/35960105:58
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Fix inline docstring to use default path (not /status)  https://review.openstack.org/35960205:59
harlowja_at_homekfox1111, ^05:59
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Remove pot files  https://review.openstack.org/35962406:39
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Show more healthcheck examples  https://review.openstack.org/35962606:42
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.middleware: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/35952507:00
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openstackgerritSachi King proposed openstack-dev/pbr: WIP: Don't ignore data-files  https://review.openstack.org/34521007:07
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.messaging: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/35952407:55
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openstackgerritJavier Peña proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Add get_schema for IPV6Address FieldType class  https://review.openstack.org/35968608:29
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openstackgerritKirill Bespalov proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Fix socket getting in the set_transport_socket_timeout()  https://review.openstack.org/35718909:10
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dhellmannharlowja, lxsli : we appear to have some sort of race condition in the oslo.log unit tests https://review.openstack.org/#/c/35952310:01
lxslidhellmann: yes I think I may be responsible for that one10:01
lxsliI'm going to dig into it10:01
dhellmannlxsli : cool, thanks10:02
dhellmannlxsli : remember library freeze is tomorrow. though if the issue is only in the tests it should be ok to land the fix without releasing it10:02
lxsliOK thanks10:05
openstackgerritGevorg Davoian proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: [zmq] Check gate  https://review.openstack.org/33890210:13
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openstackgerritAlexis Lee proposed openstack/oslo.log: Add a json reformatter command  https://review.openstack.org/31191210:17
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openstackgerritAlexis Lee proposed openstack/oslo.log: Fix race in unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/35978610:50
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.privsep: Add reno for release notes management  https://review.openstack.org/31930811:31
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openstackgerritAlexis Lee proposed openstack/oslo.log: DO NOT MERGE; detect race  https://review.openstack.org/35982011:57
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.db: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/35952212:24
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openstackgerritGevorg Davoian proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: [zmq] Update ZMQ-driver documentation  https://review.openstack.org/35866912:42
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openstackgerritAlexis Lee proposed openstack/oslo.log: Fix race in unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/35978613:33
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslotest: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/35988713:35
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openstackgerritGevorg Davoian proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: [zmq] Implement retries for unacknowledged CALLs  https://review.openstack.org/35352915:06
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openstackgerritKen Giusti proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Avoid sending cast after server shutdown in functional test  https://review.openstack.org/35998615:53
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kgiustiansmith: ping16:16
ihrachysdansmith: how do I set default for oslo.versionedobjects field that is a set, but in a way that is safe? meaning, I want each field to have its own copy of default value16:25
ihrachysdansmith: afaiu Fields.__init__ just saves the argument, and then returns it as-is whenever .default is accessed16:26
ihrachysdansmith: not a deepcopy of it or smth16:26
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ansmithkgiusti: hey17:16
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kgiustiansmith: dude - something interesting re: batched notifications17:17
kgiustiansmith: when using 'batched' notifications, the listener pends until either a full batch is received or a timeout is hit17:18
kgiustiansmith: that presents a problem with point-2-point (e.g. Non-queuing) backends17:18
kgiustiansmith: example:17:18
kgiustiansmith: consider one busy notification sender17:18
kgiustiansmith: and a listener with a batch size of say 100, timeout 10sec17:19
kgiustiansmith: the notification sender is trying to send as fast as it can17:19
kgiustiansmith: the batch listener however does NOT pass the messages up until either timeout or batch size hit, right?17:20
kgiustiansmith: but notifications wait for an ack in order to complete the send...17:20
kgiustiansmith: so, you get a stalled notifier - it sends one message and waits for an ack, but the listener is not going to ack until it hits batchsize or timeout.17:21
kgiustiansmith: taa-daa!17:21
kgiustiansmith: of course it never hits batchsize since the sender is blocked, and acks the one message when timeout expires17:22
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kgiustiansmith: I wonder how zmq deals with this.17:23
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ansmithkgiusti: remind me where batchsize is "configured"17:23
kgiustiansmith: when the notification listener is created  by Driver.listen_for_notifications() - batch info is passed there.17:25
kgiustiansmith: I think it would be A Very Bad Idea to send Notifications pre-settled due to the likelyhood of a dropped notification if we do.17:26
kgiustiansmith: I wonder if batched notification even makes sense in a point to point deployment.17:27
kgiustiansmith: in such a case you'd stall unless the batch size was <= the total number of notification senders since each sender can only have one message outstanding.17:27
ansmithkgiusti: agree that it may not make sense p2p, could driver distinguish p2p from queue and set batch accordingly17:29
ansmithkgiusti: or assume one outstanding is sufficient17:29
kgiustiansmith: that would be a possibility, but since the connection to the bus is lazy - or changes with failover - we'd have to be very clever about it.17:30
harlowjalxsli any luck on the 'race' ?17:32
harlowjalxsli  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/359786/ ?17:32
kgiustiansmith: I suppose the app could incorrectly assume a timeout was hit if the # of messages in the batch are < batchsize.  Not sure if this is something to really be worried about.17:33
kgiustiansmith: but honestly I'd rather not hardcode backend identification into the driver (any more)17:34
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kgiustiansmith: this requires a bit more thought...17:36
pvinciHi!  I'm trying to get my first patch approved and would like to know what is the right way to it reviewed without becoming a nuisance to anyone.  What is the best approach?  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358359/17:37
ansmithkgiusti: agree, will study further17:37
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kgiustiansmith: we need to at least note this in the documentation (oslo.messaging/doc/source/AMQP1.0.rst).  Wanna take a crack at that?17:38
ansmithkgiusti: will take a pass on the doc17:39
kgiustiansmith: thanks - add me to the gerrit review.17:39
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kgiustipvinci: hi - I ment to spend some time on that review but we're closing down on the newton release and I'm pretty booked17:44
harlowjadansmith any idea whats up with http://logs.openstack.org/01/359601/1/check/gate-oslo.versionedobjects-python34/b555a95/console.html#_2016-08-24_06_02_27_946480 ?17:46
harlowjaseems to be happening more frequently17:46
harlowjaah, nm, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/359686/ seems to fix that17:47
harlowjabe nice to get that one in17:47
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kgiustiharlowja: I've added you to pvinci review - it a fix for that RPC endpoint access restriction you worked on:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358359/917:53
harlowjacool17:53
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pvincikglusti: So its in front of the right people and I don't need to do anything else for now?18:02
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kgiustipvinci: yeah, but don't be reluctant to ping us on this channel if things seem stalled.18:09
kgiustipvinci: better yet you can raise it during the oslo weekly IRC meeting18:10
kgiustipvinci: with is on #openstack-meeting-alt  on Monday at 12pm EDT18:10
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openstackgerritGevorg Davoian proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: [zmq] Eliminate GreenPool from GreenPoller  https://review.openstack.org/35848518:17
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pvincikgiusti: Ok.  Will do. Thanks!18:21
ansmithkgiusti: thinking a bit more, isn't the behavior independent of backend (e.g. p2p or queue)18:25
ansmithkgiusti: if ack is based on dispatch result, batch size still has to get satisfied18:25
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kgiustiansmith: not for queue - the notification is acked by the broker then queued.  The dispatch's ack is to the broker.18:26
kgiustiansmith: so a notifier can fill the queue w/o getting acked from dispatch18:26
ansmithkgiusti: gotcha18:26
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kgiustiansmith: subtle, no?18:26
ansmithkgiusti: oui18:27
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kgiustiansmith: idea: for the functional CI tests it would be very useful to know which backend is being used.18:44
kgiustiansmith: can the setup script export an env var that tells us that?  for example AMQP1_BACKEND='qdrouterd'18:45
kgiustiansmith: we can add a test to the CI to skip those batch tests only in the case of a routed network18:45
kgiustiansmith: post-newton of course :)18:45
ansmithkgiusti: yes, that is how (to be reviewed) setup script got revised, new env var to select backend18:47
kgiustiansmith: oh, sorry I think you mentioned that to me long ago.  And here I thought I was being creative, not forgetful :)18:48
ansmithkgiusti: lol, will look into selecting tests run based on it18:49
kgiustiansmith: :D18:49
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dansmithharlowja: got it.. weird that that made it through the gate the first time19:21
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harlowjadansmith agreed19:28
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dansmithharlowja: still looking for another +2 on this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355981/19:34
harlowjadims u got any time for ^ :)19:34
dimsack19:35
harlowjathen with lxsli oslo.log change i think we should be good to go for releases19:35
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dimsharlowja : sounds good19:36
harlowjacools19:36
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dansmithdims: thankyou dim-san19:49
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openstackgerritKen Giusti proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: [AMQP 1.0] Make the default settlement behavior configurable  https://review.openstack.org/36006520:07
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johnsomHello Oslo neighbors.  Quick question, is there a common module for API quotas?  I see some old references to oslo.quota, but no recent docs.20:49
harlowjajohnsom sooooo20:49
harlowjathere is ongoing work around some of this20:49
johnsomHahahaa20:49
harlowjasome of the folks in #openstack-quota may have a more up to date view of that20:50
harlowjai'm unsure if its stalled or not20:50
johnsomOk, cool.  Thanks!20:50
harlowjahttps://github.com/openstack/delimiter was starting to form20:50
johnsomWe are working on our Octavia API20:50
harlowjabut one of the guys that was driving it was at yahoo with me20:50
harlowjaand ....20:50
harlowjau know that story20:51
harlowjalol20:51
johnsomyep, all too familiar.  Ok, thank you for the pointers20:52
harlowjanp20:54
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Add get_schema for IPV6Address FieldType class  https://review.openstack.org/35968621:15
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openstackgerritJulian proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: JSON Schema get_schema implementation for last few fields  https://review.openstack.org/36009521:39
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harlowjamerge merge merge21:50
harlowjafaster faster faster21:50
harlowjaha21:50
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Fix remotable object change tracking  https://review.openstack.org/35598121:56
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.messaging: [zmq] Make zmq_immediate configurable  https://review.openstack.org/35637023:27
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.messaging: [zmq] Host name and target in socket identity  https://review.openstack.org/35645123:27
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openstackgerritGevorg Davoian proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: [zmq] Implement retries for unacknowledged CALLs  https://review.openstack.org/35352923:58

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