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| harlowja | ok folks | 00:23 |
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| harlowja | https://review.openstack.org/360134 | 00:23 |
| harlowja | Final oslo releases for newton (freeze-time) | 00:23 |
| harlowja | please let me know very soon(ish) if that needs to change there | 00:24 |
| harlowja | ^ the ones listed had actual changes | 00:24 |
| harlowja | (therefore ones not listed had no changes) | 00:24 |
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| kgiusti | harlowja: so today is the hard freeze? | 00:37 |
| harlowja | soonish kgiusti | 00:45 |
| harlowja | don't really want to release on friday, lol | 00:45 |
| kgiusti | harlowja: can't blame you there. | 00:45 |
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| harlowja | merggeeeee | 00:46 |
| harlowja | all the things | 00:46 |
| harlowja | ha | 00:46 |
| harlowja | but ya, i'd like to get that release out tommorow | 00:47 |
| harlowja | so we can have a little more than zero bake-time (even though periodic jobs appear fine) | 00:47 |
| harlowja | thanks to mr.oslobot | 00:47 |
| harlowja | lol | 00:47 |
| kgiusti | harlowja: jiffy bake - never a wise choice | 00:48 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/359526 | 00:50 |
| harlowja | lol | 00:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hiroyuki Eguchi proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Fix failure of updating old version object https://review.openstack.org/359601 | 01:15 |
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| gus | Can people familiar with oslo.log review ^ that oslo.privsep change and tell if I'm doing anything wrong? Thanks. | 05:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.config: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/360170 | 10:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslotest: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/359887 | 10:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/oslo.log: Add a json reformatter command https://review.openstack.org/311912 | 11:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/oslo.log: Fix races in unit tests https://review.openstack.org/359786 | 11:40 |
| lxsli | harlowja dhellmann: FYI https://review.openstack.org/359786 | 11:40 |
| lxsli | that's the races | 11:40 |
| lxsli | less urgent but it'd be great to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/311912/ in as an initial version | 11:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Oleksii Zamiatin proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: [zmq] Rename rpc_cast_timeout option https://review.openstack.org/358764 | 13:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.messaging: [zmq] Implement retries for unacknowledged CALLs https://review.openstack.org/353529 | 13:35 |
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| kgiusti | ozamiatin: hey - got a minute (or two) for a zmq question? | 14:04 |
| ozamiatin | kgiusti: sure | 14:04 |
| ozamiatin | kgiusti: are you trying to deploy it? :) | 14:05 |
| kgiusti | ozamiatin: thanks - I'm having a problem with batched notification support using the dispatch router | 14:05 |
| kgiusti | ozamiatin: no, not yet - just a behavioral question about point to point notifications | 14:05 |
| kgiusti | ozamiatin: batched notifications present a problem for the point 2 point router network (no broker) - I was wondering how zmq deals with batched notifications | 14:06 |
| kgiusti | ozamiatin: since the amqp driver blocks the notification sender until an ack/nak is received from the peer. | 14:07 |
| kgiusti | ozamiatin: with dispatch router, peer == notification listener (not broker). But if the notification listener is using batches, the ack is not generated until a full batch is received (or times out). | 14:08 |
| kgiusti | ozamiatin: so for a single busy notifier, sends one message to the batch listener, then blocks on ack. The batch listener won't get another message until the batch times out. | 14:09 |
| kgiusti | ozamiatin: I would suspect zmq would perhaps see this behavior also. | 14:09 |
| ozamiatin | kgiusti: actually we have some problems with notifications since we cannot store them as broker does | 14:10 |
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| ozamiatin | kgiusti: if listener appears later | 14:11 |
| kgiusti | ozamiatin: yeah, same deal with dispatch router (assuming no broker in the routed network) | 14:11 |
| ozamiatin | kigusti: regarding the batched notifications, we didn't nothing special about them, does @base.batch_poll_helper handle them on server side? | 14:12 |
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| ozamiatin | kgiusti: seems your problem was on a client side though? | 14:12 |
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| ozamiatin | kgiusti: probably we don't see the same problems because we don't have acks for notifications yet | 14:13 |
| kgiusti | ozamiatin: the Amqp1 Listener does use batch_poll_helper.... aha! Yes, if I disable "block for ack" for notifications, then the problem is "fixed" | 14:14 |
| ozamiatin | kgiusti: right, probably the solution would be some kind of async ack in background thread? | 14:14 |
| kgiusti | ozamiatin: I suspect that's it. If/when zmq adds notification ack support you may see the same | 14:14 |
| kgiusti | ozamiatin: ideally, yes | 14:15 |
| ozamiatin | kgiusti: yeah, I think you are right about acks | 14:15 |
| kgiusti | ozamiatin: for now I'm trying to push this patch to allow acks to be disabled by message type: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360065/ | 14:15 |
| kgiusti | ozamiatin: async acks could address this - assuming there's no limit to the number of outstanding acks. | 14:16 |
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| kgiusti | ozamiatin: which could present a flow control/buffer backup issue :( | 14:16 |
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| kgiusti | ozamiatin: FWIW this behavior is hit when running the 'test_simple_batch' test in test_functional.py | 14:17 |
| ozamiatin | kgiusti: to limit the acks number gdavoian used GreePool for threads and put the value to 100 for example | 14:17 |
| ozamiatin | kgiusti: so we just hang on sending until acks arrived or threads are timed out and returned back to the pool | 14:19 |
| ozamiatin | kgiusti: that is how we did this for casts and calls for now | 14:19 |
| kgiusti | ozamiatin: kewl. I really need to spend more time in the zmq driver (I need to clone myself) | 14:20 |
| kgiusti | ozamiatin: tho I'd suspect the stall could still be hit if the max # of in flight notifications across all publishers is < batch size, but it would certainly be better than a sincle outstanding notification per publisher. | 14:21 |
| kgiusti | ozamiatin: fun times! | 14:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/oslo.log: Fix races in unit tests https://review.openstack.org/359786 | 14:24 |
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| ozamiatin | kgiusti: yeah, but it just needs to be configured properly | 14:29 |
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| kgiusti | ozamiatin: agreed | 14:42 |
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| abashmak | Good morning | 15:03 |
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| abashmak | Does anyone know if OpenStack can work with MariaDB 10.0 (mysql 5.6 & higher). I'm getting an error about FK being too large (a known limitation) from Oslo DB versioning code. There is a workaround to set "innodb_large_prefix", perhaps that can be passed as a config setting somewhere? | 15:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julian proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: JSON Schema get_schema implementation for last few fields https://review.openstack.org/360095 | 15:12 |
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| jd__ | boden: harlowja: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/tenacity/2.0.0 | 15:41 |
| boden | jd__ nice, so I should work to get this into global requirements and see what’s needed to replace/remove retrying? | 15:42 |
| jd__ | boden: yes, I think it would be a good idea indeed | 15:42 |
| jd__ | I don't know which projects are using retrying already | 15:42 |
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| zigo | harlowja: Do we have a final freeze for Oslo libs? | 16:30 |
| zigo | harlowja: Can we get that packaged for Newton in Debian and Ubuntu and be confident there will be only minor updates? | 16:30 |
| zigo | jd__: Why is Tenacity better than Retrying? | 16:31 |
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| jd__ | zigo: for a lot of reasons, but the main one is that the maintainer of retrying is not responding :( | 16:31 |
| jd__ | we tried for 3 months :( | 16:32 |
| zigo | jd__: Good enough reason, though we may end up maintaining retrying for the life of Stretch, since Newton continues to use it... | 16:32 |
| zigo | jd__: Will you be using Tenacity for Newton in Telemetry? | 16:32 |
| jd__ | yeah I know zigo :( this was not a light hearted decision | 16:32 |
| jd__ | zigo: I don't know, there's no hurry for us, would it be a problem? | 16:33 |
| zigo | jd__: Sure, I very much prefer maintained stuff, and I approve your move, I'm sure you tried. | 16:33 |
| zigo | jd__: Well, if you're using Tenacity, then it'd be nice to have everyone move to it before the final reason, just to avoid duplicates ... | 16:33 |
| zigo | jd__: Is it hard to replace, or is it just a mater of sed s/retrying/tenacity/g ? | 16:34 |
| jd__ | no, it's not hard to replace | 16:36 |
| jd__ | it's not really a sed s/// but almost :) | 16:36 |
| jd__ | I know boden wants to use it somewhere in OpenStack, not sure where | 16:36 |
| jd__ | we're packaging Tenacity for RDO as we speak, if it's done before Neutron we might start using it in Gnocchi or something like that | 16:37 |
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| boden | jd__ my plan was to try and replace all uses of retrying with tenacity, or at least thats what I assumed was required to replace retrying w/tenacity | 16:40 |
| boden | … at some point; this is not high priority for me, but likely within the next month or so | 16:40 |
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| dhellmann | harlowja : did the final release for oslo.privsep include the fix for the fact that it logs so many warnings that it makes debugging the gate hard? | 16:52 |
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| harlowja | dhellmann that's my understanding | 17:32 |
| harlowja | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.privsep/history.html#id1 | 17:32 |
| harlowja | 'More sophisticated logging on privileged side' | 17:32 |
| harlowja | i believe there is a followup from gus to improve that | 17:32 |
| dhellmann | harlowja : ok, good, I was just making sure | 17:33 |
| harlowja | that followup being https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360252/ | 17:33 |
| harlowja | and i haven't seen the criticality raised on that ^ (so i don't think its ultra-required) | 17:33 |
| harlowja | well not saying its not required, just not a critical requirement for newton | 17:33 |
| harlowja | (u get the point, ha) | 17:33 |
| harlowja | zigo yes i think we are good with only minor updates for bugs from here on out | 17:34 |
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| harlowja | i don't expect anything else major merging (afaik) | 17:34 |
| harlowja | jd__ cool beans, ha | 17:34 |
| harlowja | already at 2.0 woah | 17:35 |
| harlowja | ha | 17:35 |
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| kgiusti | Live From Oslo (Barcelona)! | 18:27 |
| harlowja | woot | 18:27 |
| harlowja | is that offically up somewhere kgiusti ? | 18:27 |
| kgiusti | harlowja: https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule#day=2016-10-25 | 18:27 |
| harlowja | cools | 18:28 |
| kgiusti | harlowja: luckily my dispatch presentation was also accepted - and they scheduled it immediately after Live! :P | 18:28 |
| harlowja | lol | 18:28 |
| harlowja | fun fun, then u get to run around :-P | 18:29 |
| harlowja | and try to find the other rooms, lol | 18:29 |
| harlowja | i always enjoyed doing that, haha | 18:29 |
| kgiusti | harlowja: look for "Message Routing" on that same page | 18:29 |
| harlowja | nice | 18:29 |
| harlowja | when are they going to start building that stuff into actual routers? | 18:29 |
| harlowja | and we shall call it KG/ip | 18:29 |
| harlowja | for ken giusti over IP | 18:29 |
| harlowja | lol | 18:29 |
| kgiusti | harlowja: that sounds... painful. | 18:30 |
| harlowja | lol | 18:30 |
| kgiusti | :D | 18:30 |
| harlowja | ya, u might not fit in the tiny pipe | 18:30 |
| harlowja | but we shall try | 18:30 |
| harlowja | the tiny pipe that comes out of my computer | 18:30 |
| harlowja | lol | 18:30 |
| kgiusti | harlowja: hey! I know I have to lose a few pounds, but really! | 18:31 |
| harlowja | ha | 18:34 |
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| pvinci | kgiusti: Thank you... | 18:59 |
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| kgiusti | pvinci: no - thank you for the contribution! | 19:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Adam Harwell proposed openstack/oslo.config: Add IPOpt and PortOpt names for sphinxext https://review.openstack.org/360745 | 19:31 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: The Gerrit service on review.openstack.org is restarting to implement some performance tuning adjustments, and should return to working order momentarily. | 19:46 | |
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