Monday, 2017-09-11

jungleboyjWhat hashtag on Twitter are we supposed to use for the PTG?00:01
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AdamSpiers[m]+1 for putting http://ptg.openstack.org in the topic01:37
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andreaf#qa agenda at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-queens-ptg and https://ethercalc.openstack.org/Queens-PTG-QA-Planning04:26
openstackptgandreaf: unknown directive 'agenda'04:26
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andreaf#qa now agenda at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-queens-ptg and https://ethercalc.openstack.org/Queens-PTG-QA-Planning04:27
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ricolin#heat now agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-queens-ptg04:35
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ricolin#heat next agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-queens-ptg05:57
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dmsimardThose trains... seriously.12:17
eumel8hahaha :)12:18
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dmsimardCHOO CHOO CHOOOOOOOOOOOOO12:18
eumel8not between 2 and 3 AM12:19
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eumel8#docs-i18n next starting 9 AM - say Hello in Steamboat at the Atrium Level12:23
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gmannjohnthetubaguy, lbragstad: RBAC & Policy essions is on Monday or Tuesday, seems confusion from (L47, L133) - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-PTG-vmbm12:40
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dmelladodmsimard: you too, dude?12:45
dmelladothose trains killed me off12:45
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dmelladodid you guys got to see the card over the 'noise generator' with a train drawing... WTF12:46
larsksdmellado: I plugged the noise generator in this morning to try it out.  I think I prefer the highway outside the window... :)12:47
dmelladolarsks: o/ when I saw the earplugs and the noise generator I started to have 'bad premonitions'12:49
dmelladoI could totally stand the highway, but the train noise it's a pain12:49
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larsksdmellado: breakfast?12:53
dmelladolarsks: in 10 minutes at the hall?12:55
dmelladodmsimard: joining12:55
larsksdmellado: Sure.  Which is "the hall"?12:55
dmelladolarsks: reception desk?12:55
dmelladoI might need to go there for a second12:56
larsksI'll meet you there.12:56
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setuidThe pdf version of the schedule doesn't seem to have any times on it for any of the talks =/ (except for lunch) Does anyone have a more detailed schedule for the week? https://www.openstack.org/assets/ptg/PTG-Denver-Schedule.pdf13:00
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johnsomSchedules are up to the teams.  Go to ptg.openstack.org and look at the etherpad list13:08
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setuidMuch better, thanks!13:21
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lbragstadgmann: that will be today - i crossed off the bottom schedule since we're going with the simplified one13:38
lbragstadgmann: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-queens-ptg13:38
lbragstad^ that has more details, too13:39
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lbragstad#policy next assist projects with Queens community goal at 9:0013:44
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notmyname#swift now bug triage! http://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-bug-triage-list13:45
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eumel8The registration desk is on level 0 (ballroom), take the escalator and then right the corner.13:55
dmsimarddmellado: omg I didn't realize what the train card on the noise generator was about13:57
dmsimarddmellado: you just made my brain link the two13:57
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andreaf~list14:03
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dmsimard#help14:04
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dmsimardandreaf: ^14:04
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andreaf#qa next qa help room - help for the community goal, writing tempest plugins and tests, gate data resources, microversion testing and more - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-queens-ptg14:05
andreafdmsimard: heh I was just trying to see the list of rooms - policy did not seems to work for lbragstad14:06
andreafscrolling up I see policy-in-code is available14:06
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smcginnisI'm thinking there needs to be a user level list command.14:09
smcginnisWell, I guess there kind of is.14:09
smcginnis#fail now listing14:09
openstackptgsmcginnis: unknown room 'fail'14:09
openstackptgActive rooms: ansible api barbican charms cinder cli compute congress docs-i18n freezer glance glare hallway heat horizon infra interop ironic keystone kolla mistral neutron nova octavia oslo packaging policy-in-code puppet qa reusability sahara security simplification swift tc tripleo trove uc upgrading watcher14:09
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* dtroyer wonders "what trains?"14:21
dtroyerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S65lJGs7YC814:21
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clarkb#infra clear14:22
openstackptgclarkb: Incorrect number of arguments14:22
openstackptgFormat is '#ROOMNAME [ now ... | next ... | clean ]'14:23
clarkb#infra clean14:23
clarkb#infra now Agenda Planning (also Zuul all week)14:23
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claygthere's coffee in the hallway downstairs just outside the colorado ballrooms14:36
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pabelangerclarkb: which room for this morning, ballroom A still?14:39
clarkbpabelanger: yes14:40
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ttx#tc now Room is currently empty, discussions will start after lunch14:41
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gcbclarkb: can you add me some rights in this channel, then I can send out notes about what's happening in oslo dedicated room14:42
clarkbgcb: yes one moment14:43
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ttxgcb: you actually already have rights, but you're not identified in irc14:45
clarkboh is that the problem?14:45
ttxThats why he is not autovoiced14:45
ttxI  think14:46
clarkbya that makes sense14:46
gcbclarkb, ttx: yeah , thanks , I remembered  I have the rights before14:46
eumel8#docs-i18n now say Hello - in Steamboat at the Atrium Level14:46
ttx#tc next at 1:30pm: TC 2019 Vision review14:47
amotokihow can we announce information via ptgbot?14:47
* Ng waves to everyone14:47
gcb#oslo  now Oslo schedule:  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-ptg-queens14:48
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johnsom#octavia next 9:00am Meeting with CLI/SDK in Kingston Peak, level 314:48
dtroyer#cli now Open for business in Kinston Peak on 3rd floor14:48
openstackptgdtroyer: Need voice to issue commands14:48
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ttxamotoki: you need "voice" rights to push info to ptgbot14:48
johnsom#cli  now Open for business in Kinston Peak on 3rd floor14:48
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ttxamotoki: ying_zuo is I think the person with rights for horizon room14:49
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amotokittx: thanks. I just wonder who updates information. it is not limited to horizon though :)14:50
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dirkIs the ptg.openstack.org/ptg.html page supposed to auto refresh?14:53
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clarkbdirk: no I don't think it autorefreshes14:56
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ttxno, it's a manual refresh thing14:57
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lbragstad#policy now helping projects complete Queens policy-and-docs-in-code community goal15:01
openstackptglbragstad: unknown room 'policy'15:01
openstackptgActive rooms: ansible api barbican charms cinder cli compute congress docs-i18n freezer glance glare hallway heat horizon infra interop ironic keystone kolla mistral neutron nova octavia oslo packaging policy-in-code puppet qa reusability sahara security simplification swift tc tripleo trove uc upgrading watcher15:01
lbragstad#policy-in-code now helping projects complete Queens policy-and-docs-in-code community goal15:01
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johnsom#octavia now Meeting with CLI/SDK in Kingston Peak, level 315:05
lyarwood#skip-level-upgrades schedule: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-PTG-skip-level-upgrades Durango, Atrium Level15:05
openstackptglyarwood: Need voice to issue commands15:05
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johnsom#octavia next 10am Meet with Horizon team to talk about Angular usage, Telluride level B15:07
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gmannlbragstad: thanks15:07
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bauzasfor the moment, the VM/BM WG session is quiet, so if anyone wants to voice, feel free to come by the room15:08
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smcginnis#cinder clean15:09
smcginnis#cinder next Cinder schedule: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ptg-queens15:09
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smcginnisThinking it might be good to keep the Wed-Fri sessions in the "next" section to keep current activity focused on what's actually happening.15:09
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smcginnisJust a thought.15:09
rosmaitagood idea15:10
rosmaita#glance clean15:10
rosmaita#glance next Glance schedule: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-queens-ptg15:10
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smcginnisrosmaita: Where are you this morning?15:11
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rosmaitain policy goal room now (grays peak, 3rd floor)15:11
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smcginnisrosmaita: Cool, I might stop by a little later to say hi.15:12
prometheanfirettx: I'm kinda concerned that the infra/relmgmt/reqs room will have contention from the three subgroups for the infra tag15:12
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lyarwoodcan I get +v from someone so I can post skip-upgrades topics?15:13
cdent#api now talkinga about missing guidane15:13
cdent#api clean15:13
cdent#api now talking about missing guidance15:14
cdent#api next bug triage and fixathon15:14
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ttxlyarwood: done15:16
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ttxprometheanfire: yeah, what we ended up doing for relmgt is that we'll meet somewhere in the hallway on Thursday, and let the infra room be a helproom for the 1st two days15:18
lyarwood#skip-level-upgrades schedule: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-PTG-skip-level-upgrades Durango, Atrium Level15:18
openstackptglyarwood: unknown room 'skip-level-upgrades'15:18
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ttxlyarwood: use "#upgrading now ..."15:18
lyarwood#upgrading now schedule: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-PTG-skip-level-upgrades Durango, Atrium Level15:19
lyarwoodttx: thanks15:19
ttxor "#upgrading next..."15:19
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efriedttx Where's the manual?15:19
prometheanfirettx: can we have a specific requirements tag?15:19
dave-mccowan#barbican now barbican bug scrub15:20
prometheanfirehttps://github.com/ttx/ptgbot15:20
prometheanfirethat's the 'official docs' :D15:20
dirkefried: see link on ptg.openstack.org15:20
ttxhttp://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ptgbot/tree/README.rst15:20
ttxthat's te current docs ^15:20
efriedttx dirk thanks!15:20
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ttx~add requirements15:21
lyarwood#upgrading next 10:00-10:30 - retrospective of discussions in Boston, setting goals for this PTG - Durango, Atrium Level15:21
ttxprometheanfire: ok, add #requirements15:21
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ttxadded*15:21
notmynameI saw a room sign for "simplification" but I didn't see an etherpad or schedule or anything. anyone have any details on that?15:21
prometheanfirethanks15:21
hogepodge#interopwg now discussing general topics15:21
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ttxnotmyname: thingee is running that room15:21
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ttxit's more a workshop from what I understand15:22
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notmynameprometheanfire: ok, since you're waiting on tonyb to talk requirements stuff with me/us, I'm going to go out and find a place where we can do bug triage15:23
andreaf#infra now come in Ballroom A with your questions for infra / qa/ release / stable / requirements15:23
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andreaf#qa clean15:24
jungleboyj#cinder now Spreading out across the cross team meetings and keeping notes to help the team here:  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ptg-queens-cross-project-meetings15:25
prometheanfire#requirements now discussing specific steps to impliment divergent requirements15:25
dirk#requirements now Agenda at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-PTG-requirements15:25
prometheanfirelol15:25
dirkargh15:26
smcginnisRequirements conflict.15:26
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dirk#requirements now discussing specific steps to impliment divergent requirements15:26
prometheanfirenah15:26
dims@ttx : can you grant me karma for ptgbot?15:26
jungleboyj#docs-i18n now in Steamboat room talking about the Doc's team missions statement!15:26
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prometheanfire#requirements now discussing specific steps to impliment divergent requirements - Agenda at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-PTG-requirements15:26
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diablo_rojohogepodge, now?15:27
hogepodge#interopwg now discussing general topics15:27
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openstackptgActive rooms: ansible api barbican charms cinder cli compute congress docs-i18n freezer glance glare hallway heat horizon infra interop ironic keystone kolla mistral neutron nova octavia oslo packaging policy-in-code puppet qa requirements reusability sahara security simplification swift tc tripleo trove uc upgrading watcher15:27
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diablo_rojohogepodge, its just #interop15:27
notmyname#swift now bug triage in the durango room (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-bug-triage-list)15:27
hogepodge#interop now discussing general topics15:28
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dims@diablo_rojo : could you please grant me karma to access the ptgbot15:28
eumel8#docs-i18n now Explain vision process, start brainstorming15:29
prometheanfiredims: where you be?15:29
dims@prometheanfire : am at the policy room15:29
prometheanfireah, k15:29
prometheanfiredirk: where you be then?15:29
csatari#openstack-doc is discussing the Mission Statement of the team https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499556/ .15:30
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fultonjpabelanger: it looks like you're chairing the seesion "Rebuilding infra-cloud" as per line 71 of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-ptg-queens ; any idea when it might be?15:31
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notmynamedurango reservable room seems to be occupied with skip level upgrading right now15:31
PagliaccisCloudany word on where rpm-packaging is meeting?15:31
notmyname#swift now bug triage at table in hotel bar/lobby area (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-bug-triage-list)15:32
csatariWhat's "Need voice to issue commands"?15:32
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rpiosoIs there an etherpad for "Make components reusable for adjacent techs"?15:32
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mriedem#interop next 10am discussing microversions, capabilities, and testing in snowmass room, atrium level15:33
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AdamSpiers[m]rpioso: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-ptg-queens maybe?15:33
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rpiosoAdamsSpiers[m]: I believe that's for Oslo.15:35
rpiosoAdamsSpiers[m]: ty15:35
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AdamSpiers[m]rpioso: Yes, reusability is the point of Oslo :) But maybe I misunderstood your question15:35
dimsrpioso : i added one just now https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/adjacent-ptg-queens15:35
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dimsAdamSpiers[m] : this one is about making sure openstack services can run in things like kubernetes, swarm etc15:37
notmyname#swift color #66cc6615:37
AdamSpiers[m]ah OK15:37
rpiosodims: Awesome!  Thank you!15:38
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sdaguewhere is the source for the status page?15:38
dimssdague : you mean git repo for ptgbot?15:39
sdagueyeh15:39
efriedsdague openstack/ptgbot project?15:40
notmyname#swift color #d0261715:40
efriedsdague http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ptgbot/15:40
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sdagueefried: thanks15:42
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notmyname#swift now bug triage in Big Thompson (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-bug-triage-list)15:42
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dimsthanks efried :) i dropped off walking between rooms15:45
sdague#api API Testing Tools - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-ptg-queens (Telluride A, Atrium Level)15:45
openstackptgsdague: Need voice to issue commands15:45
sdagueanyone want to voice me?15:46
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sdague#api API Testing Tools - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-ptg-queens (Telluride A, Atrium Level)15:46
openstackptgsdague: unknown directive 'api'15:46
openstackptgFormat is '#ROOMNAME [ now ... | next ... | clean ]'15:46
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hogepodge#interop now break15:46
sdague#api now API Testing Tools - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-ptg-queens (Telluride A, Atrium Level)15:46
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sdaguethanks hogepodge15:47
hogepodge#interop next microversions and interoperability https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDenver2017PTG_Microversions15:47
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dimsslagle : rpioso : how about 4:00 PM today for the "Reusable components for adjacent Techs" topic?15:49
dimsinc0 : free at 4:00 PM? ^15:50
lyarwood#upgrading now 10:00-10:30 - Retrospective of discussions in Boston, setting goals for this PTG - Durango, Atrium Level [Full, standing room only]15:50
lyarwood#upgrading next 10:30-11:00 - Have operator requirements changed since Boston? - Durango, Atrium Level15:50
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rajinirrpioso: can you elaborate on the "Resuable components for adjacent Techs" I'll be interested15:52
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slagledims: wfm15:52
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dimsslagle : let me try to round up more folks :)15:53
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mriedemhogepodge: http://ptg.openstack.org/ptg.html15:58
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thingeesimplification pdf: http://www.scaryland.net/complicated.pdf15:58
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dims#reusability 4pm Reusable components for adjacent Techs @ Capital Peak Level 315:58
openstackptgdims: unknown directive '4pm'15:58
openstackptgFormat is '#ROOMNAME [ now ... | next ... | clean ]'15:58
dims#reusability next 4pm Reusable components for adjacent Techs @ Capital Peak Level 315:59
AdamSpiers[m]Is there some way we can encourage people to include a rough ETA in "#foo next" ptgbot directives?15:59
hogepodge#interop color FFD70016:00
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AdamSpiers[m]e.g. there's currently no way to know when the next topics for interop/heat/glance are starting16:00
dims#oslo now Pluggable config drivers and Protecting Plaintext Secrets16:00
dims#oslo next Support for external PDP16:00
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cdent#api next bug triage and fixathon16:01
hogepodge#interop color #FFD70016:01
AdamSpiers[m]cdent: perhaps you could include an ETA for that?16:02
hogepodge#interop now Interop Microversions16:02
AdamSpiers[m]otherwise people don't know when it starts16:02
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johnsom#octavia now 10am Meet with Horizon team to talk about Angular usage, Telluride level B16:02
cdent#api  color  #C8A8FF16:02
cdentAdamSpiers[m]: we don’t know yet, otherwise I would16:03
hogepodge#interop next Interop Add-Ons Session 11:00-11:4516:03
AdamSpiers[m]cdent: OK understood :)16:03
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hogepodge#interop color #DAA52016:05
cdent#api now Expanding/developing as a SIG (starting at 10:15)16:06
sdaguecdent: you might want to keep the room name and etherpard uri for now16:08
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rosmaita#glance color #95502E16:12
rosmaita#glance color #E88A3d16:13
rosmaita#glance color #95502E16:15
rosmaita(i will stop messing with the color, will stick with "dark chipmunk")16:15
sdague#interop now Microversions https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDenver2017PTG_Microversions - (Level: A, Snowmass)16:15
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gmannQA schedule link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/Queens-PTG-QA-Planning16:17
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cdent_: #api now Expanding/developing as a SIG (starting at 10:15) https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-ptg-queens - Telluride A16:20
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cdent#api now Expanding/developing as a SIG (starting at 10:15) https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-ptg-queens - Telluride A16:21
cdent#api next Bug triage and fix workshop/hackathon (10:45) https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-ptg-queens - Telluride A16:21
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prometheanfirenotmyname: when you be back?16:27
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notmynameprometheanfire: I'm not gone :-) just in a different room16:27
notmynameI'm in big thompson now16:28
notmynameprometheanfire: do you need me to come back into ballroom a?16:29
prometheanfirenotmyname: we are wondering about use cases16:30
prometheanfireand we need projects16:30
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notmynameok, I'll come over16:30
prometheanfirecool16:30
notmynamegive me a couple of minutes16:30
med_#cli Door is open on 3rd floor (elevator) in Kingston Peak (northwest end)16:30
openstackptgmed_: Need voice to issue commands16:30
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mattoliverausimplification etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/simplifying-os16:32
thingeejoin us! ^16:32
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thingeesimplification room, by registration16:32
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pkovar#docs-i18n next Translation of various guides after doc migration.16:37
pkovarTranslation of various guides after doc migration16:37
pkovar#docs-i18n next Translation of various guides after doc migration16:37
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pkovar#docs-i18n clean16:38
pkovar#docs-i18n next Translation of various guides after doc migration starts at 11 am16:38
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johnsom#octavia next 2PM Zuulv3 HOWTO for openstack developers general session - Vail, Atrium level16:39
bsilvermanEgo adsum16:40
hogepodge#interop now break 10:45 - 11:0016:42
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hogepodge#interop next Interop Add-Ons 11:00-11:45 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDenver2017PTG_AddOns16:42
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ttxthingee: you can promote the simplificationroom using the ptgbot: "#simplification now Join us to discuss stuff"16:46
ttxthat way it will appear on http://ptg.openstack.org/ptg.html16:46
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cdent#api next Bug triage and fix workshop/hackathon (11:00) - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-ptg-queens - Telluride A16:49
cdent#api next lunch (12:00) - Ballroom D16:50
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smcginnisOh, didn't realize you could have multiple next items.16:52
smcginnisHow do you clear them out without a full clean though?16:52
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cdentsmcginnis: dunno, I didn’t reallize that it would do that until it did16:52
lbragstad#policy-in-code now discussing next steps for policy after Queens16:54
lbragstad#compute next discussing RBAC & policy improvements at 13:3016:55
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clarkb#infra color #da1a3216:56
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clarkb#infra next 2PM in Vail for Zuulv3 session16:57
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clarkb#infra next 2PM Zuulv3 HOWTO for openstack developers general session - Vail, Atrium level16:57
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lbragstad#keystone color #249E4916:58
clarkbapparnetly next appends16:58
clarkb#infra clean next16:59
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lbragstad#policy-in-code color purple16:59
clarkb#infra next 2PM Zuulv3 HOWTO for openstack developers general session - Vail, Atrium level16:59
jeblaircome in Ballroom A with your questions for infra / qa/ release / stable / requirements16:59
smcginnisclarkb: Lost your current too.16:59
clarkb#infra now come in Ballroom A with your questions for infra / qa/ release / stable / requirements16:59
hogepodge#interop now Interop Add-Ons 11:00-11:45 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDenver2017PTG_AddOns16:59
clarkbsmcginnis: should be fixed now16:59
jeblairneed #channel next pop16:59
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clarkb#infra next 2PM Zuulv3 HOWTO for openstack developers general session - Vail, Atrium level17:00
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smcginnisclarkb: The append of next items is fixed? Or is being able to clean next new?17:00
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hogepodge#interop next Interop WG Verticals Session 1:15 - 2:00 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDenver2017PTG_Verticals17:00
rosmaita#glance next team dinner tomorrow (Tuesday) at 18:30, sign up at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-queens-ptg17:00
clarkbsmcginnis: clean worked but setting now clears next too. All sorted at this point17:00
smcginnisclarkb: Nice!17:01
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fungianyone looking for the storyboard q&a peeps, they're moving to a lunch room to find an open power strip17:01
pkovar#docs-i18n now Translation of various guides after doc migration17:01
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inc0dims: sorry 4pm we have rendez vous with Cinder community17:02
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inc0can I have + here pretty please?17:03
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smcginnisfungi: Open power strip over here. But no open chairs.17:04
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dimsinc0 : ack17:07
dimsinc0 : what time are you free tomorrow?17:07
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inc0I'm pretty open all day long17:08
inc0so pick your time:)17:09
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cdent#api now talking about how to do guided reviews17:09
cdent#api next lunch (12.00)17:10
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diablo_rojoSorry inc0 and dims just saw your messages. All sorted now?17:12
dimsdiablo_rojo : yep thanks. i caught ttx17:12
diablo_rojodims, cool :)17:12
mhaydenis anyone here who works on tempest?17:13
mhaydenhere being denver, of course17:13
smcginnismhayden: I know there's some qa folks in ballroom a.17:14
thingee#simplification dead code/paths being discussed now. join us in simplification room https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/simplifying-os17:14
openstackptgthingee: unknown directive 'dead'17:14
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mhaydensmcginnis: ah, i'm at the front corner of the room and i have someone who is looking for tempest plugin help! :)17:14
thingee#simplification now dead code/paths being discussed now. join us in simplification room https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/simplifying-os17:15
clarkbthingee: can I remind cinder that they have redundant config options for telling cinder where cinder lives at in url form?17:16
mhaydensmcginnis: thanks, we've connected them17:16
thingeeclarkb: yes I remember you bringing that up. please add to etherpad. we'll discuss it :)17:16
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inc0thanks diablo_rojo :)17:29
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inc0ah, still need it:(17:29
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johnsom#octavia next 2PM Zuulv3 HOWTO for openstack developers general session - Vail, Atrium level17:30
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diablo_rojoinc0, should be good now :)17:35
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dmsimardmhayden: maybe mtreinish can help for tempest stuff ?18:43
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mhaydendmsimard: i think she got what she needed18:44
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clarkbthingee: someone deleted my thing about cinder?18:58
mtreinishdmsimard: what am I need for?18:58
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ying_zuo#horizon now Oslo.config based configuration and the future django setting19:02
ying_zuo#horizon next Feature gaps from back-end server projects19:03
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eumel8#docs-i18n now Updating Docs mission statement, working on a draft vision (cont.)19:05
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prometheanfire#requirements now discussing cross gating jobs19:07
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dmsimardmtreinish: someone was seeking help about tempest plugins, looks sorted out now though19:07
lbragstad#policy-in-code clean19:07
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hogepodge#interop now 1:15 - 2:00 Interop WG Verticals Session https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDenver2017PTG_Verticals19:13
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hogepodge#interop next 2:15-3:00 Action Item work session & Office Hours19:14
clarkbdtroyer: dhellmann hey this just occured to me. Maybe we can carve out time this week to talk about osc runtime costs?19:15
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dtroyerclarkb: yes…  we have some thoughts about that19:16
dtroyerclarkb: also, can you add me to ptgbot?19:16
clarkbdtroyer: I can, one moment please19:16
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clarkbdtroyer: there you should be set for ptgbot19:17
dtroyerthanks19:17
clarkbdtroyer: if/when that conversation happens can you ping me? I'd like to sit in that one19:17
dtroyer#cli now idle for a bit this afternoon19:17
dtroyerclarkb: will do19:17
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EmilienM#deployment next 2:00-2:40 cross deployment collaboration19:18
openstackptgEmilienM: unknown room 'deployment'19:18
openstackptgActive rooms: ansible api barbican charms cinder cli compute congress docs-i18n freezer glance glare hallway heat horizon infra interop ironic keystone kolla mistral neutron nova octavia oslo packaging policy-in-code puppet qa requirements reusability sahara security simplification swift tc tripleo trove uc upgrading watcher19:18
EmilienM#packaging next 2:00-2:40 cross deployment collaboration19:19
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dimsslagle : rpioso : dropping the 4 PM meet for the resuability discussion as the kolla folks have a conflict. will try to reschedule and ping you both19:20
ttx~clean upgrading19:21
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ttx(cleaning up stale entries)19:21
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ttx#tc now TC 2019 Vision retrospective/review19:22
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ttx#tc next at 3pm we'll discuss rebooting the Stewardship WG19:23
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pkovar#docs-i18n now Updating Docs mission statement, working on a draft vision (cont.) -- need more ppl19:25
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med_Did Skip Level move to Pikes Peak or are they done?19:31
ying_zuo#horizon now Feature gaps from back-end server projects19:31
med_I saw helm in pikes peak a bit ago.19:31
ying_zuo#horizon next Open Discussion19:32
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dirk#hallway clear19:34
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dirk#hallway clean19:34
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med_list19:37
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lyarwood#upgrading next 14:00-16:00 - What efforts (if any) are underway to enable skip level upgrades within the community? - Durango, Atrium Level19:38
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thingee#simplification now https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/simplifying-os19:38
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thingeesimplification session is empty aside from swift folks who have been helpful in the current etherpad categories. would be good to have more feedback to help with this effort.19:45
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thingeewe're in the room to the left of registration. thanks!19:46
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clarkbthingee: someone deleted my feedback on that fwiw19:51
thingeeclarkb: I moved it. sorry my color changed it19:51
jeblairclarkb: can you do a now Zuulv3 HOWTO for openstack developers general session - Vail, Atrium level19:51
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clarkbjeblair: yes19:51
clarkb#infra now Zuulv3 HOWTO for openstack developers general session - Vail, Atrium level19:51
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clarkb#infra next Docs retention policy at 16:30 in docs room19:52
johnsom#octavia now 2PM Zuulv3 HOWTO for openstack developers general session - Vail, Atrium level19:52
clarkbjeblair: do you want your hat and badge too?19:52
* clarkb is about ot wander up19:52
clarkbthingee: ah ok19:52
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jeblairclarkb: nah, i'll come back down19:55
hogepodge#introp next 2:15-3:00 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDenver2017PTG_Verticals (Part II, NFV)19:55
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hogepodge#interop next 2:15-3:00 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDenver2017PTG_Verticals (Part II, NFV)19:56
hogepodge#interop clear next19:56
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hogepodge#interop clean next19:56
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EmilienM#packaging clean 2:00-2:40 cross deployment collaboration19:57
EmilienM#packaging now 2:00-2:40 cross deployment collaboration19:58
EmilienMI'm not sure if I'm supposed to do that ^ maybe not, let me know19:58
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lyarwood#upgrading now 14:00-16:00 - What efforts (if any) are underway to enable skip level upgrades within the community? - Durango, Atrium Level20:00
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efriedhogepodge EmilienM Does 'clean' take args?  You may be cleaning both 'now' and 'next' when you do that.20:03
efriedyup20:03
hogepodgeefried: apparently not20:03
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hogepodgeefried: I just poke the api and see what happens.  docs are for writing not for reading ;-)20:04
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efriedRight, I was ambiguous: I meant "yup" you're cleaning both; so "no", clean doesn't take args.20:04
thingee#simplification clean20:06
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cdearbornsigh - anyone have any idea where the kolla-tripleo meeting is?  It's neither in Durango or Pikes Peak20:07
slaglecdearborn: Clear Creek20:07
cdearbornthx20:07
hogepodge#interop now 2:15-3:00 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDenver2017PTG_Verticals (Part II, NFV)20:08
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pkovar#docs-i18n now Updating Docs mission statement, working on a draft vision (cont.)20:09
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efriedCueing up a whiteboarding session per sean-k-mooney's note on -dev ML: nova/neutron/placement interaction.  Things like: How does port binding get negotiated and scheduled?  How are capabilities/capacities modeled in placement and how do they get through to the claim?  Thinking to grab the compute/vm/bm room Tuesday after lunch (13:30-?)  Does that work for people?  (edleafe cdent slaweq) Others interested and/or willing to le20:14
efriednd their expertise? sdague?20:15
slaweqefried: for me it's fine, thx20:15
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lbragstad#compute now discussing policy and RBAC improvements20:19
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edleafecan someone give me 'voice' so I can update with API-SIG info?20:21
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med_^ ttx clarkb edleafe needs voice20:22
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ttxmed_: done20:23
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ttxedleafe: go for it20:24
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med_tx. (maybe he's offline and shaded)20:24
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edleafe#api now discussing api-ref20:24
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edleafettx: med_: \o/20:25
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thingeeHey all, simplification session has ended for today due to lack of participants. We'll start up again tomorrow, and I'll be sending something to ML for today's progress: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/simplifying-os20:30
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mtreinishthingee: oh, sry I wanted to be there, but I also wanted to be in 2 other rooms :/20:32
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thingeemtreinish: I know a lot of people are interested in the topic. Board meeting showed interest too. I'm sure people are overbooked20:32
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edleafe#api next Bug fix hack session20:35
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andreaf#qa now working on the heat plugin for the qoal20:40
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mtreinishandreaf: "qoal"? :)20:46
andreaf:D20:46
andreaf#qa now working on the heat plugin for the goal20:46
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andreafyou don't know what a qoal is20:46
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efriedSome kind of marsupial20:52
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prometheanfire#requirements clear20:54
openstackptgprometheanfire: Incorrect number of arguments20:54
openstackptgFormat is '#ROOMNAME [ now ... | next ... | clean ]'20:54
prometheanfire#requirements clean20:54
ttx#tc now discussing what the hell are Constellations20:54
ttx#tc next at 3:15pm we'll discuss rebooting the Stewardship WG20:55
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lbragstad#compute clean20:58
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lbragstad#compute now clean20:58
lbragstad#compute clear20:58
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lbragstad#compute now clear20:59
edleafelbragstad: your first one was correct20:59
erindisneyHi friends- feel free to PM me on here if any room you are in needs more chairs, less AC, throughout the week. Hope to see folks in the lobby bar from 5-7pm tonight for 10% off drinks/snacks and some local live music!20:59
lbragstad#compute clean20:59
lbragstadwhew - that took a while20:59
hogepodge#interop now break20:59
hogepodge#interop next 3:15-4:00 Public Cloud Vertical https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDenver2017PTG_Verticals (Part III Public Cloud)21:00
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edleafe#api next Bug fix hack session at 3:3021:01
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ttx#tc next at 4pm we'll discuss onboarding new community members21:05
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johnsom#octavia next Meeting with storyboard team in the lobby21:10
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ying_zuo#horizon now Bug triage21:14
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ttx#tc now disucssing rebooting the Stewardship WG21:22
ttx#tc next at 4pm we'll discuss onboarding new community members21:22
lyarwood#upgrades clean21:23
openstackptglyarwood: unknown room 'upgrades'21:23
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lyarwood#upgrading clean21:23
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bauzasttx: proposal for improving the ptgbot: could we have timestamps on the webpage corresponding when the status was updated for each room ?21:23
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bauzasttx: for example, I wanted to join the Zuul v3 session but I don't know since when it's started unless I check that chan logs21:24
bauzasdoable but not convenient :)21:24
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rpiosodims: Ack.  Thank you!21:31
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andreafttx: I'm interested in the Stewardship WG but busy in the QA room21:31
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edleafe#api now Hack session postponed; too many interesting side discussions happening21:35
edleafe#api clean21:35
edleafe#api now Hack session postponed; too many interesting side discussions happening21:36
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cmurphyedleafe: is this capabilities discussion still happening today? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-ptg-queens21:36
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pkovar#docs-i18n now break until 4:30 pm21:37
pkovar#docs-i18n next Docs retention policy at 16:3021:38
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ttx#tc now biobreak21:41
ttx#tc next at 4pm we'll discuss onboarding new community members21:41
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coolsvapttx: the reservable rooms sign-up link needs update to https://ethercalc.openstack.org/Queens-PTG-Discussion-Rooms21:48
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EmilienM#packaging clean 2:00-2:40 cross deployment collaboration21:57
johnsom#octavia now Storyboard discussions in the lobby21:57
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ttxcoolsvap: what do you mean?21:58
johnsomHmm, that didn't update....21:58
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johnsomAh, there it went21:58
clarkbttx: Its pike in topic of channel21:58
ttx#tc now discussing onboarding new community members21:58
ttxhah21:58
coolsvapttx its for pike21:58
ttxfixing topic21:58
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ying_zuo#horizon now A horizon plugin for HOT creation21:59
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hogepodge#interop now Done for today. Thanks for your participation and see you tomorrow for RefStack work!22:00
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hogepodge#interop now Done for Monday. Thanks for your participation and see you Tuesday for RefStack work!22:01
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dirk#hallway next 5:00-7:00 PTG Kick Off Happy Hour22:06
hogepodgeptgbot has been amazing. Thanks pgtbot dev team!22:09
smcginnis++22:09
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coolsvap++ I had bit difficulty understanding it to start with but its really nice to have! Thanks team!22:15
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jungleboyj#cinder now good discussion on using Kolla for development22:18
jungleboyj#cinder next Beer!22:19
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fungiheh at jungleboyj22:21
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jungleboyjfungi:  It is how we roll.  :-)22:22
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pkovar#docs-i18n Docs retention policy22:32
openstackptgpkovar: unknown directive 'docs'22:32
openstackptgFormat is '#ROOMNAME [ now ... | next ... | clean ]'22:32
pkovar#docs-i18n now Docs retention policy22:32
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ttx#tc now drinking beer23:06
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dmsimardttx: beer? :)23:09
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edleafe#api clean23:37
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edleafecmurphy: we moved it to tomorrow because the main people involved were in other sessions today23:38
edleafe#api clean23:38
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