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| sdague | #api location Level A: Telluride A | 12:36 |
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| sdague | #tc clean | 12:37 |
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| robcresswell | +1 to the PTG bot / schedule stuff, really cool | 12:58 |
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| sdague | yeh, I think I might have killed it last night. There are a couple of things coming, but it doesn't seem to be responding atm | 13:02 |
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| robcresswell | Haha, oh dear :( | 13:21 |
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| aspiers | ttx, sdague: I think it would be super helpful if the ptgbot could also let normal users state which room they're in, and the web page displayed who was attending each meeting (e.g. via a mouseover or expand/collapse widget) | 13:33 |
| robcresswell | ^^ That sounds a little stalky :) | 13:36 |
| robcresswell | Although you'd have to announce it I guess, so its more like tweeting your location. | 13:37 |
| aspiers | robcresswell: well, a) yes, that would be the whole point, to allow people to find you more easily, or coordinate better coverage of a team across multiple meetings, and b) exactly, the information is volunteered, so there's no privacy issue | 13:38 |
| robcresswell | yeah, makes sense | 13:38 |
| aspiers | the OpenStack summit website does the same thing already | 13:38 |
| aspiers | or at least, it used to | 13:38 |
| aspiers | I think that was one feature which regressed recently | 13:39 |
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| lyarwood | #upgrading next 09:00 - 10:00 - Review AIs, goals and notes from yesterday - Durango, Atrium Level | 13:50 |
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| robcresswell | Does anyone know where the interviews are? I know I have one at 10am, but I don't know *where* :) | 14:00 |
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| robcresswell | The spreadsheet doesnt seem to say | 14:00 |
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| aspiers | today at 10am we're having a cross-project discussion on how projects above the compute layer can coordinate together to form a self-healing cloud - all welcome! https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/self-healing-queens-ptg | 14:01 |
| aspiers | please spread the word since this was not part of the original agenda | 14:01 |
| fungi | i'm taking a look at the bot now, to see if one of those recent modifications crashed it | 14:01 |
| aspiers | ttx: any suggestions for a smaller location than Colorado ballroom C for this discussion? | 14:02 |
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| fungi | 23:37 <-- openstackptg (~openstack@eavesdrop.openstack.org) has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | 14:07 |
| fungi | that was right after a clean command was given | 14:07 |
| fungi | unfortunately, nothing of note in the ptgbot logs, they just stop there | 14:07 |
| fungi | doesn't look like it logged seeing the clean | 14:07 |
| fungi | so maybe that triggered a sudden crash | 14:08 |
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| fungi | looks like it started back up fine just now | 14:09 |
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| fungi | i'll keep an eye on it, but if it crashes again i'll probably need to run it in the foreground to catch a traceback | 14:09 |
| amrith_m | Would one of the admins pl add amrith_m to the list of admins ... Thx | 14:09 |
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| dmueller[m] | aspiers: #hallway is available, let me know if you want me to list it there | 14:10 |
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| aspiers[m] | dmueller: thanks, that might make sense! although not sure how many people are going to turn up. Am guessing around 15 - slightly less than the 150 capacity of ballroom C, which is why I wasn't sure it was the best location for it | 14:12 |
| andreaf | #qa now clean | 14:12 |
| andreaf | #qa clean | 14:12 |
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| fungi | i guess clean didn't trigger any crash this time | 14:13 |
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| andreaf | #qa next Starting at 9:00 we're in ballroom A - bring your questions! | 14:15 |
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| ttx | #tc clean | 14:18 |
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| ttx | #tc location Platte River, Banquet level | 14:20 |
| ttx | #tc now Starting at 9am | 14:20 |
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| ttx | #tc next at 9am: New project teams Q&A | 14:20 |
| dirk | #hallway next at 1010: self-healing cloud - all welcome! https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/self-healing-queens-ptg | 14:21 |
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| dirk | #hallway next clean | 14:22 |
| dirk | #hallway next at 1010: self-healing cloud - all welcome! https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/self-healing-queens-ptg | 14:22 |
| dirk | #hallway clean | 14:22 |
| ttx | #tc location Platte River | 14:22 |
| dirk | #hallway next at 1010: self-healing cloud - all welcome! https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/self-healing-queens-ptg | 14:22 |
| dirk | #hallway clean | 14:22 |
| dirk | #hallway next at 10am: self-healing cloud - all welcome! https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/self-healing-queens-ptg | 14:22 |
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| clayg | thingee: someone is in the simplification room (big thompson) - once you get settled this morning - come on down! | 14:30 |
| lbragstad | #compute next discussing application credentials | 14:30 |
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| lyarwood | #upgrading next 09:00 - 10:00 - Review AIs, goals and notes from yesterday - Durango, Atrium Level | 14:30 |
| lbragstad | #compute next discussing application credentials at 9:00 | 14:30 |
| lbragstad | #compute clean | 14:31 |
| lbragstad | #compute next discussing application credentials at 9:00 | 14:31 |
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| ttx | #trove clean | 14:33 |
| clarkb | #infra clean | 14:33 |
| ttx | ~clean api horizon oslo | 14:33 |
| lbragstad | #policy-in-code next assisting projects with queens policy goal at 14:30 | 14:33 |
| ttx | ~clean barbican cli cinder | 14:34 |
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| ttx | ~clean interop swift octavia | 14:34 |
| clarkb | #infra now Day 2 helproom. Please visit if there is anything that Infra, Qa, Release, Stable, or Requirements can help with | 14:34 |
| clarkb | #infra location Ballroom A, Banquet level | 14:34 |
| ttx | ~clean heat docs-i18n policy-in-code | 14:35 |
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| ttx | ~clean glance reusability | 14:35 |
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| edleafe | #api next Capabilites discussion | 14:46 |
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| lbragstad | edleafe: when is the capabilities stuff happening? | 14:52 |
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| ttx | #tc now New project teams Q&A | 14:52 |
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| ttx | #tc next at 11am Potential Queens project removals | 14:53 |
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| hogepodge | #interop now 9:00 - 9:45 RefStack General Session https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDenver2017PTG_RefStackGeneral | 14:54 |
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| hogepodge | #interop next 10:00 - 10:45 RefStack Client Tempest Autoconfig https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDenver2017PTG_TempestAutoconfig | 14:55 |
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| ying_zuo | #horizon now Pagination | 14:59 |
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| thingee | #simplification next dead code paths and configuration options https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/simplifying-os | 15:00 |
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| lbragstad | #compute now discussing application credentials | 15:02 |
| edleafe | lbragstad: whenever the poeple who raised the topic show up :) | 15:02 |
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| lbragstad | edleafe: ack - thanks1 | 15:02 |
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| amrith_m | lbragstad, in what room? | 15:03 |
| therve | amrith_m, ballroom b | 15:04 |
| amrith_m | Ack | 15:04 |
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| fungi | ttx: sdague: i'm still not seeing any tracebacks in the ptgbot debug log to explain it not updating | 15:06 |
| ttx | it is updating | 15:06 |
| sdague | fungi: it seems to be working now | 15:07 |
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| fungi | oh, it's not broken then? | 15:07 |
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| * fungi gets back to ptging | 15:07 | |
| sdague | fungi: something seemed to have been earlier | 15:07 |
| ttx | it's not loading on my laptop for some reason | 15:07 |
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| ttx | sdague: we are rolling out https://review.openstack.org/#/c/503018/ to fix column width | 15:08 |
| ttx | so the bot will reboot | 15:08 |
| ttx | not done yet | 15:08 |
| sdague | ttx: that's maybe not going to do what you think | 15:09 |
| andreaf | #qa now We're in ballroom A - bring your questions! | 15:09 |
| sdague | because it will break the whitespace not breaking thing once people get long now fields | 15:09 |
| fungi | http://ptg.openstack.org/ptg.html returns a blank page for me (just the title and subtitle text) | 15:09 |
| mriedem | #api now discussing sdks in telluride, atrium level | 15:10 |
| mriedem | fungi: me too | 15:10 |
| ttx | fungi: same here, but my phone has the right page | 15:10 |
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| fungi | i wonder if there's a busted transparent web proxy on the conference wifi? | 15:10 |
| ttx | fungi: yes, something like that | 15:10 |
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| ttx | sdague: it looked good in my tests | 15:11 |
| sdague | ttx: were your now fields long enough to wrap? | 15:11 |
| ttx | sdague: hmm, no. but currently the location column is just too small | 15:12 |
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| bauzas | is it me or the ptgbot page is giving me blank content ? | 15:12 |
| sdague | ttx: sure... but it will actually get smaller | 15:12 |
| thingee | #simplification now dead code paths and configuration options https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/simplifying-os | 15:13 |
| bauzas | oh, saw fungi's comment | 15:13 |
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| bauzas | whoops :) | 15:13 |
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| sdague | ttx: change it to col-sm-2 | 15:13 |
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| sdague | but removing the class actually puts it in a dynamic range, and it's going to get pushed around with long now fields | 15:14 |
| ttx | sdague: that's what my previous patch did and it was a bit ugly | 15:14 |
| fungi | confirmed, if i go upstairs where my wireless modem can get signal, reloading the page gets me content now | 15:14 |
| sdague | ttx: hmm ok | 15:14 |
| ttx | bauzas: it's a local thing | 15:14 |
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| ttx | sdague: let's see how that renders and change it again if uglier | 15:14 |
| sdague | ttx: well, I did it originally without the class, and things go schrunchy | 15:14 |
| fungi | so definitely the conference wifi breaking the page, gotta be a transparent web proxy there | 15:14 |
| sdague | fungi: we can put an expires metatag in | 15:14 |
| ttx | sdague: I can't fix it right now, feel free to push more patches :) | 15:15 |
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| fungi | i can also hassle the organizers to check the cache | 15:15 |
| fungi | switching back to the tc room now, brb | 15:15 |
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| sdague | yeh, let me putter a bit | 15:16 |
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| bauzas | ttx: I had the same blank page with both the Renaissance-Guest and the OpenStack wifi network | 15:20 |
| bauzas | but okay | 15:20 |
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| bauzas | cache-busting doesn't help for me | 15:21 |
| jungleboyj | #cinder now Spreading out across the team rooms and sharing notes here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ptg-queens-cross-project-meetings | 15:21 |
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| ttx | sdague: the new version is now live (dynamic columns) - I feel like it looks better than col-sm-1 | 15:25 |
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| sdague | ttx: sure... the issue is going to be when long text gets loaded into a now | 15:26 |
| sean-k-mooney | o/ | 15:26 |
| ttx | the issue is the page not managing to load jquery | 15:26 |
| ttx | (https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.9.1/jquery.min.js not loading) | 15:27 |
| efried | sean-k-mooney Howdy. Please merge https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/placement-nova-neutron-queens-ptg with your etherpad, and link whichever one you pick from the other. | 15:27 |
| med_ | blueborne ... https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/09/bluetooth-bugs-open-billions-of-devices-to-attacks-no-clicking-required/ | 15:27 |
| ttx | wow | 15:27 |
| thingee | dhellmann: I heard to docs team was discussing contributor docs for on-boarding. it would be good for my group to sync with them team on this effort http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-June/118877.html | 15:27 |
| med_ | (more of a conference thing than an OpenStack thing) | 15:28 |
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| ttx | I fixed it | 15:28 |
| thingee | dhellmann: I spoke to some people from your group last night and showing up more polished mock ups, but we had discussions on this in the simplification room yesterday and stewardship working group | 15:28 |
| ttx | The page loading was blocked by google | 15:28 |
| ttx | I landed on a CAPTCHA | 15:28 |
| ttx | saying too much loading from our IP address | 15:29 |
| ttx | for ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.9.1/jquery.min.js | 15:29 |
| sdague | #api location Telluride A, Level A | 15:29 |
| sdague | #compute location Ballroom B, Level B | 15:30 |
| ttx | fungi, bauzas, mriedem: should be alright now | 15:30 |
| sean-k-mooney | efried: yep i was going to do that. the bm room was where i was going to see if we could grab so i think the 1:30-2:30 slot will work well | 15:30 |
| ttx | #tc location Platte River, level B | 15:30 |
| fungi | we've got a request into the contractor to clear the cached copy of the ptgbot page now | 15:30 |
| sdague | #interop Snowmass, Level A | 15:30 |
| openstackptg | sdague: unknown directive 'snowmass,' | 15:30 |
| aspiers[m] | dhellmann: yeah, thingee 's mockups looked really like the use-case-centric stuff we were talking about yesterday - very nice :) I think it could be great to have similar portals for end users and the "WTF is OpenStack" newbie use case too | 15:30 |
| openstackptg | Format is '#ROOMNAME [ now ... | next ... | clean ]' | 15:30 |
| sdague | #interop location Snowmass, Level A | 15:31 |
| ttx | fungi: that wasn't the issue | 15:31 |
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| ttx | google blocked our loading of jquery.js | 15:31 |
| ttx | due to too many requests from our IP | 15:31 |
| bauzas | heh | 15:31 |
| ttx | loading it manually I landed on a CAPTCHA | 15:31 |
| efried | sean-k-mooney We may want to block more time. I spent a couple hours with edleafe and cdent yesterday talking through just some of the basics - we barely scratched the surface of the actually-neutrony stuff. | 15:31 |
| TheJulia | awesome | 15:31 |
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| ttx | I entered the CAPTCHA and it fixed it immediately | 15:32 |
| sdague | #qa location Ballroom A, Level B | 15:32 |
| eumel8 | robcresswell, andymccr: you can come ealier to the Atrium - if you have time :) | 15:32 |
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| TheJulia | I also hit a CAPTCHA and it began working for me again once entered | 15:32 |
| fungi | ttx: oh, we're not serving a copy of the javascript from the ptg.o.o site? | 15:32 |
| ttx | fungi: no | 15:32 |
| ttx | ptg.js yes | 15:32 |
| fungi | we should definitely avoid pulling outside copies of stuff | 15:32 |
| bauzas | ttx: still blank page for me, but I can trace the HTTP calls | 15:32 |
| ttx | jquery is loaded from the Internet | 15:33 |
| fungi | yikes | 15:33 |
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| fungi | we can puppet a copy of it onto the server | 15:33 |
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| cdent | efried: i just responded to that thread and added links to the pics. I’ve got some confusion over which etherpad and topics have the ball right now | 15:33 |
| sdague | #simplification location Big Thompson, Level B | 15:33 |
| bauzas | yup, confirmed, I still get a 503 https://ipv6.google.com/sorry/index?continue=https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.9.1/jquery.min.js&q=EhAgAQRwAQgTABrSPjAil4nhGL38380FIhkA8aeDSzvxBC7afGJSO-1B8CcQRZdRooWZMgFj | 15:33 |
| notmyname | #swift now bug triage in Big Thompson https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-bug-triage-list | 15:33 |
| bauzas | yeah, you should land jquery somewhere | 15:33 |
| bauzas | not being on a CDN doesn't look a problem to me | 15:34 |
| efried | cdent Yeah, sean-k-mooney is merging; and I'd like to get a firm from jaypipes so we can lock down the time. I'll send a followup email once everything is settled. | 15:34 |
| sdague | #upgrading location Durango, Level A | 15:34 |
| efried | cdent Most of the stuff we discussed yesterday really falls more into the general discussion cued up for Thursday at 3: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-queens-generic-device-management | 15:35 |
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| cdent | efried: jay will probalby need to be notified in person or on irc of what’s going on. saw him this morning and he’s way behind on email etc because of life | 15:35 |
| notmyname | #swift location Big Thompson, level B | 15:35 |
| sean-k-mooney | efried: ill use the etherpad you created | 15:35 |
| notmyname | #swift now bug triage https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-bug-triage-list | 15:35 |
| efried | cdent Yup, he's in Ballroom B now, but he's engaged in the discussion and I haven't seen him on IRC. | 15:36 |
| fungi | out of curiosity, why did we need javascript for that page? seems like it could just have been statically-generated html | 15:36 |
| bauzas | cdent: efried: I haven't replied on the ML for saying I'd like to attend, but you can count me on the courtesy ping list | 15:36 |
| efried | bauzas Ack | 15:36 |
| lyarwood | #upgrading now 09:00 - 10:00 - Review AIs, goals and notes from yesterday - Durango, Atrium Level | 15:36 |
| lyarwood | #upgrading next 10:00 - 11:00 - NFV considerations - Durango, Atrium Level | 15:36 |
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| ttx | fungi: the idea ws to cache teh html part and just refresh the json | 15:36 |
| efried | But I did see him in one of the etherpads, so he's at least seen *one* of the emails | 15:37 |
| ttx | anyway, solution is to add it to the ptgbot repo html repository | 15:37 |
| bauzas | could we just land jquery.min.js on the local webserver and just expect people to cache it ? | 15:37 |
| sdague | fungi: it's a starting point, there are lots of ways to do this structurally different later | 15:37 |
| ttx | and fix the link | 15:37 |
| alex_xu | efried: cdent + me, i'm also interesting on anything about placement :) | 15:37 |
| bauzas | it's not like we have a very large set of people looking at the page | 15:37 |
| efried | alex_xu Gotcha on the list | 15:37 |
| alex_xu | efried: thanks! | 15:37 |
| ttx | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ptgbot/tree/html <-- there | 15:37 |
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| bauzas | ttx: permission to fix ? | 15:38 |
| * bauzas git cloning now | 15:38 | |
| ttx | bauzas: sure go for it | 15:39 |
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| ttx | note that it's not the only one we load from The Internet | 15:39 |
| ttx | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ptgbot/tree/html/ptg.html#n74 | 15:40 |
| fungi | handlebars too, from, the looks of show page source | 15:40 |
| ttx | cloudflare just happens to not be as picky | 15:40 |
| bauzas | I'll just add a timestamp for the calls we make, so we could invalidate browser caches if needed | 15:41 |
| ttx | fungi: and bootstrap's stylesheet at the top | 15:41 |
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| bauzas | ttx: ack, fetching that too | 15:41 |
| fungi | ahh, yup | 15:41 |
| aspiers[m] | Unless anyone else has an urgent need for a large room 10-11am, let's do the 10am self-healing discussion in ballroom C (banquet level). I reserved it last night on the ethercalc. | 15:41 |
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| med_ | Also, Google is reporting "curious traffic patterns" on the PTG network. FYI. | 15:42 |
| fungi | we're a curious lot | 15:43 |
| ttx | let's just host our own copy | 15:43 |
| sdague | fetching jquery shouldn't be a curious pattern | 15:43 |
| sdague | but such it is | 15:43 |
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| bauzas | I'm on it | 15:44 |
| ttx | fungi: basically the json-centric approach spares us needing a database | 15:45 |
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| ttx | that's why the thing produced a json and then the static js/html renders it | 15:45 |
| ttx | but yeahm version 1 | 15:46 |
| thingee | clarkb: oh I think I took of the cinder dup config opt https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462979/ | 15:46 |
| fungi | ahh, as opposed to having the page renderer parse the json and emit html to disk for apache to serve | 15:46 |
| fungi | (or loading/writing the json as purely a backing store so the data persists across bot reloads, and keeping the live data in memory instead) | 15:47 |
| sdague | yeh, honestly, I don't think spot rewriting the architecture in the middle of the ptg is really a thing. Probably just worth while doing a retrospective and next steps on the code post event. | 15:48 |
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| sdague | when we're not trying to keep it running and staying in sessions | 15:48 |
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| ttx | sdague: I think the auto-refresh is what's killed our Google credits | 15:49 |
| ttx | probably triggers too much downloads from a single IP | 15:49 |
| bauzas | https://review.openstack.org/503050 | 15:49 |
| fungi | agreed. i'm just generally allergic to browser-side rendering. it's clear i don't write web apps and am entrenched in 90s technology | 15:49 |
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| cdent | fungi: you are a grape. me too. | 15:50 |
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| pkovar | #docs-i18n now going through doc future problems | 15:52 |
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| pkovar | #docs-i18n next doc tooling walk through | 15:52 |
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| pkovar | #docs-i18n next doc tooling walk through at 11 am | 15:52 |
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| lyarwood | #upgrading now 10:00 - 10:30 - NFV considerations - Durango, Atrium Level | 15:57 |
| lyarwood | #upgrading next 10:30 - 11:30 - Creating an upgrade SIG - Durango, Atrium Level | 15:57 |
| lyarwood | ttx: would you have time to drop by the upgrade SIG discussion? ^ | 15:57 |
| bauzas | ouch, gmail is indeed asking me a captcha | 15:57 |
| thingee | #simplification now installation and upgrades | 15:57 |
| bauzas | we're now considered as bots | 15:57 |
| aspiers[m] | self-healing discussion in ballroom C now https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/self-healing-queens-ptg | 15:57 |
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| bauzas | at least, we're seen as abusers | 15:58 |
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| thingee | #simplification now installation and upgrades https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/simplifying-os | 16:00 |
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| hogepodge | #interop now 10:00 - 10:45 RefStack Client Tempest Autoconfig https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDenver2017PTG_TempestAutoconfig | 16:00 |
| hogepodge | #interop next 10:40 - 10:50 RefStack/Interop Team Photo! | 16:01 |
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| edleafe | #api now break | 16:08 |
| edleafe | #api next Capabilities discussion at 10:25 | 16:09 |
| hidekazu | aspiers[m]: which table self-healing-meeting is in discussion? | 16:09 |
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| aspiers[m] | The one furthest from the door | 16:09 |
| aspiers[m] | ballroom C | 16:09 |
| aspiers[m] | we have not started yet | 16:10 |
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| aspiers[m] | please can someone clean the #hallway? self-healing is in ballroom C not hallway | 16:11 |
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| aspiers[m] | ^^ dmueller ttx | 16:12 |
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| ttx | #hallway clean | 16:17 |
| ttx | aspiers[m]: done | 16:17 |
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| thingee | #simplification now lets talk about kubernetes | 16:22 |
| rosmaita | #glance next 11:20 - team photo in hotel lobby | 16:23 |
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| edleafe | #api clean | 16:27 |
| edleafe | #api now Capabilities discussion | 16:27 |
| prometheanfire | #requirements next 2:20 - team photo in hotel lobby | 16:27 |
| prometheanfire | #requirements now working on docs and tools | 16:28 |
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| hogepodge | #interop now Team Photo! | 16:37 |
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| efried | johnthetubaguy FYI: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/placement-nova-neutron-queens-ptg | 16:43 |
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| thingee | Swimingly: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/commit/?id=cd677e60f992bbe28ad7d7cec0aa0ea605485121 | 16:45 |
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| thingee | #simplification now the idea of not a bunch of projects, just OpenStack | 16:49 |
| wendar | EmilienM: were you talking about starting a Deployment SIG yesterday? We were talking about creating an Upgrades SIG, maybe they should join as one (Lifecycle SIG?) | 16:49 |
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| amrith | the webpage seems to be dead again | 16:53 |
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| amrith | http://ptg.openstack.org/ptg.html | 16:53 |
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| med_ | yep. It's stagnant/static/empty | 16:54 |
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| hogepodge | #interop now 11:00-11:45 RefStack Subunit Upload https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDenver2017PTG_RefStackSubunit | 16:55 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | @clarkb: @fungi @ttx ptgbot page is dead | 16:55 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | clarkb: fungi ttx ^^ | 16:56 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Bah slack.. | 16:56 |
| fungi | diablo_rojo_phon: yeah, 503072 is needed but i'm fixing manually until that merges | 16:56 |
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| ttx | clarkb: the fix is merged already, waiting for the next puppet run | 16:58 |
| clarkb | ttx: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/503072/1 is not merged? | 16:58 |
| ttx | oh | 16:58 |
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| ttx | Imissed that one | 16:58 |
| clarkb | fungi: I didn't approve in case it would affect your fixing | 16:58 |
| ttx | yes please review :) | 16:58 |
| clarkb | but feel free to aprove when it makes sense | 16:58 |
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| thingee | #simplification now commons layer with kubernetes. Also discussion on nova https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/simplifying-os | 16:59 |
| ttx | fungi: thx for speedy fix | 16:59 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | Yes thank you fungi :) | 16:59 |
| fungi | happy to help! | 17:00 |
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| pkovar | #docs-i18n now doc tooling walk through with dhellmann | 17:02 |
| ttx | #tc now Discussing potential Queens project team removals | 17:03 |
| ttx | #tc next at 1pm Discussing Tags - State of the Union | 17:03 |
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| Swimingly | thingee: https://kubernetes.io/docs/admin/cluster-large/ | 17:04 |
| clarkb | #infra now Stable vs upstream friction. sdague dtroyer please join us in Banquet Ballroom A | 17:05 |
| TheJulia | #ironic next 11:30 - Team photo in the lobby | 17:05 |
| sdague | clarkb: ok, I can wander down shortly | 17:05 |
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| EmilienM | wendar: yes, it was brought that some folks are interesting to have a SIG reprensenting efforts shared across deployment tools | 17:07 |
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| wendar | EmilienM: It makes sense. And, the same set of deployment tools are involved in upgrades. | 17:08 |
| thingee | #simplification feedback on outside solutions that out scale and don't require cells v2 | 17:08 |
| openstackptg | thingee: unknown directive 'feedback' | 17:08 |
| openstackptg | Format is '#ROOMNAME [ now ... | next ... | clean ]' | 17:08 |
| thingee | #simplification now feedback on outside solutions that out scale and don't require cells v2 | 17:08 |
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| ying_zuo | #horizon now More integration with keystoneauth | 17:09 |
| ildikov | Reminder for the Upstream Institute trainers and mentors and those who're interested in the activity to meet in the lunch room at the back for a team lunch!!! :) | 17:10 |
| wendar | EmilienM: we don't have anything in the upgrades room until 2pm, but you might catch up with lyarwood | 17:10 |
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| pkovar | #docs-i18n next team photo at 02:10 | 17:10 |
| lyarwood | EmilienM / wendar ; yeah I was just about to ask about using that SIG to host some of the skip-level (fast forward) things we've been talking about | 17:11 |
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| lyarwood | EmilienM: let me know if you're free for a chat later | 17:12 |
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| efried | Hey, can someone with voice please #horizon location Telluride B, Atrium Level | 17:13 |
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| lyarwood | #horizon location Telluride B, Atrium Level | 17:14 |
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| lyarwood | efried: ^ if that okay? | 17:14 |
| lyarwood | is* | 17:15 |
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| cdent | efried: when you nailed jay down, was it to a cross? | 17:15 |
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| thingee | #simplification clean | 17:17 |
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| efried | lyarwood Thanks! | 17:20 |
| efried | cdent That comes later. | 17:20 |
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| johnsom | #octavia now LVS IPinIP discussion | 17:22 |
| johnsom | #octavia location Colorado ballroom D | 17:22 |
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| rosmaita | #glance clean | 17:23 |
| rosmaita | #glance next 9:00 am Wednesday - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-queens-ptg | 17:24 |
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| rosmaita | #glance clean | 17:25 |
| rosmaita | #glance next 6:30 pm - team dinner - meet in hotel lobby | 17:25 |
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| erindisney | as i am sure many of you have noticed, we are maxing out the wifi network today. please be mindful and hold off on all those movie downloads until tonight :) | 17:32 |
| ttx | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | 17:32 |
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| johnsom | Too many people streaming the apple thing I would guess.... | 17:33 |
| prometheanfire | ya, that's my guess | 17:34 |
| prometheanfire | I'm just watching a live thread (not video) | 17:34 |
| johnsom | I will read the fallout later | 17:34 |
| jbryce | also we apparently had one user that was consuming 10Mb...so...maybe don't do that... | 17:34 |
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| prometheanfire | so? is it the right time to do os updates :P | 17:35 |
| thingee | #simplification now bug reports/triaging - lets actually automate all the things | 17:35 |
| jbryce | yes. please do all OS updates and stream apple keynotes in 4k RIGHT NOW | 17:35 |
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| ttx | #tc now Lunch | 17:38 |
| ttx | #tc next at 1pm Discussing Tags - State of the Union | 17:38 |
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| cdent | ttx: i need to be somewhere for a placement thing at 1:30 but I care about the top 5 list, especially in terms of figuring out how to address and get traction on the problems that are between tactical emergencies and strategic goals. I hope that statement covers it. | 17:43 |
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| lbragstad | #compute clean | 17:45 |
| thingee | #simplification lunch | 17:45 |
| openstackptg | thingee: Incorrect number of arguments | 17:45 |
| openstackptg | Format is '#ROOMNAME [ now ... | next ... | clean ]' | 17:45 |
| thingee | #simplification now lunch | 17:45 |
| lbragstad | #compute now clean | 17:45 |
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| thingee | heh | 17:46 |
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| thingee | dhellmann: reminder I would like to sync with the doc room to discuss contributor portal for on-boarding. thanks | 17:47 |
| thingee | not sure if you're the person to talk to have something scheduled in there | 17:48 |
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| hogepodge | #interop now Lunch! | 17:50 |
| hogepodge | #interop next 1:15 - 2:00 Proposal to form Interop SIG https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDenver2017PTG_InteropSIG | 17:51 |
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| thingee | dhellmann: nevermind jimmy is setting something up with Petr | 17:54 |
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| cdent | #api next after lunch open discussion and available hack space until about 3:30 | 17:55 |
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| fungi | ttx: are ptgbot changes 490874 and 490875 still relevant or redundant and need abandoning? | 18:13 |
| fungi | not sure why they never merged | 18:13 |
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| ttx | #tc now Discussing Tags - State of the Union | 18:58 |
| ttx | #tc next at 1:30pm Discussing the Top-5 priority list | 18:58 |
| pkovar | #docs-i18n now Review doc future problems | 18:59 |
| ttx | #tc next at 3pm Discussing TC internals -- feedback on the meetingless interactions | 18:59 |
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| ying_zuo | #horizon now Switching to mock from mox | 19:00 |
| TheJulia | #ironic clean | 19:00 |
| thingee | #simplification now stacker kubernetes as a common layer for OpenStack | 19:00 |
| ttx | fungi: they merged I think | 19:00 |
| ttx | Both show as merged and the functionality is certainly there | 19:01 |
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| ttx | wendar, cdent: now discussing tags in TC room | 19:03 |
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| fungi | ttx: hah, i forgot to subscribe to that repo in gertty, so had stale state cached for them | 19:04 |
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| hogepodge | #interop next 2:15 - 3:00 RefStack Developer Toolchain Setup | 19:07 |
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| thingee | #simplification clean | 19:19 |
| efried | #compute next 13:30 - 15:30: neutron/nova interplay in a placement world | 19:19 |
| openstackptg | efried: Need voice to issue commands | 19:19 |
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| efried | Someone voicey please ^^ | 19:19 |
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| efried | mriedem If you please | 19:21 |
| efried | may as well add etherpad link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/placement-nova-neutron-queens-ptg | 19:21 |
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| mriedem | efried: i don't know how to do that | 19:22 |
| mriedem | #compute next 13:30 - 15:30: neutron/nova interplay in a placement world | 19:22 |
| efried | thx | 19:22 |
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| ying_zuo | #horizon now Discussion on existing and new blueprints/features | 19:24 |
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| csatari | OpenStack meets ETSI NFV Workshop starts in room Aspen from 14:00 | 19:25 |
| csatari | Agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/etsi-nfv-openstack-gathering-denver | 19:25 |
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| robcresswell | WiFi down? | 19:27 |
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| robcresswell | (For anyone else?) | 19:27 |
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| cdearborn | working great for me on the B level | 19:27 |
| smcginnis | robcresswell: Working down here in the dungeon. | 19:28 |
| robcresswell | Its down for us in Telluride B, Atrium Level (Horizon) | 19:28 |
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| robcresswell | Aaand we're back | 19:28 |
| smcginnis | There was some warning earlier that some folks were consuming a large part of the pipe downloading something. | 19:28 |
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| clarkb | ya basically stop using the internet to watch videos | 19:29 |
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| clarkb | ya that was one of the things that were thought ot cause problems | 19:30 |
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| ttx | #tc now Still Discussing Tags - State of the Union | 19:32 |
| ttx | #tc next at 1:40pm Discussing the Top-5 priority list | 19:32 |
| ttx | #tc next at 3pm Discussing TC internals -- feedback on the meetingless interactions | 19:32 |
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| ttx | #tc now Discussing the Top-5 priority list | 19:42 |
| ttx | #tc next at 3pm Discussing TC internals -- feedback on the meetingless interactions | 19:42 |
| clarkb | #infra now Day 2 helproom. Please visit if there is anything that Infra, Qa, Release, Stable, or Requirements can help with | 19:44 |
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| erindisney | robcresswell: let me know if it goes down again, sorry about that! | 19:48 |
| robcresswell | erindisney: No worries, was only a couple of minutes :) | 19:48 |
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| fnordahl | erindisney: one thing about the wifi after its return, IPv6 prefixes are announced on the network but IPv6 is currently not being routed out to the internet. Since the openstack infra (git, zuul, etc.) is mostly dual-stacked this will lead to large time-outs before ppl get to their stuff | 19:58 |
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| lyarwood | #upgrading now 14:00 - 15:00 - How can we collaborate and share tools for fast forward upgrades within the community? - Durango, Atrium Level | 19:59 |
| lyarwood | #upgrading next 15:00 - 15:30 - Final review of actions, plans moving forward etc. - Durango, Atrium Level | 19:59 |
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| erindisney | fnordahl: thanks for the feedback, passing along to the network team. | 20:00 |
| fnordahl | erindisney: cool, thx! | 20:01 |
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| hogepodge | #interop now 2:15 - 3:00 RefStack Developer Toolchain Setup | 20:18 |
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| lbragstad | #policy-in-code now helping projects complete queens goal for policy | 20:20 |
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| pkovar | #docs-i18n clear | 20:59 |
| openstackptg | pkovar: Incorrect number of arguments | 20:59 |
| openstackptg | Format is '#ROOMNAME [ now ... | next ... | clean ]' | 21:00 |
| pkovar | #docs-i18n clean | 21:00 |
| pkovar | #docs-i18n now Review doc future problems | 21:00 |
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| ttx | ~clean api | 21:07 |
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| lbragstad | #policy-in-code next whiteboard process logs for admin project and global roles | 21:13 |
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| erindisney | Quick clarification on lunch: we do have additional vegetarian and gluten free meal options, just ask any of the catering staff and they will get you taken care of. Sorry for any confusion! | 21:25 |
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| ttx | dhellmann, thingee: would you be available to discuss Driver teams status update around 4:15pm in the TC room ? | 21:36 |
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| erindisney | PTG Survey is live! We are doing daily drawings for vintage Summit swag for anyone that fills it out and provides an email address. First raffle will be at 5pm so take a couple minutes before the happy hour to fill it out: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/QueensPTG | 21:58 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: yes, I think so | 22:04 |
| ttx | cool see you soon | 22:04 |
| lbragstad | #policy-in-code now smoothing out application credential discussion | 22:05 |
| lbragstad | #policy-in-code next whiteboard process logs for admin project and global roles | 22:05 |
| odyssey4me | kevinbenton ping - you around? I'd like to ask a question regarding the best way to appropriately submit an improvement to the neutron pbr config | 22:05 |
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| kevinbenton | odyssey4me: hey, i would file a bug and then propose a patch to neutron referencing the bug | 22:46 |
| odyssey4me | kevinbenton ok, will do - just wanted to verify before going ahead - thanks! | 22:47 |
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| kevinbenton | odyssey4me: no prob | 22:47 |
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