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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tempest: Fix and re-enable test_disassociate_not_associated_floating_ip https://review.openstack.org/124323 | 02:20 |
| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed a change to openstack-dev/devstack: Stop setting deprecated OVS.enable_tunneling option https://review.openstack.org/131327 | 02:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eli Qiao proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Add BadRequest exception in test_floating_ips_actions case https://review.openstack.org/131364 | 04:39 |
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| openstackrecheck | openstack/nova change: https://review.openstack.org/122633 failed because of: gate-tempest-dsvm-full: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1373513 | 04:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Fix the flavor ram string value https://review.openstack.org/131637 | 05:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Do not merge: Test v2.1 API on the gate https://review.openstack.org/131639 | 05:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Enable nova multi host on aiopcpu tests https://review.openstack.org/131604 | 05:36 |
| openstackrecheck | openstack/horizon change: https://review.openstack.org/129379 failed because of: gate-tempest-dsvm-full: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1373513 | 05:42 |
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| openstackrecheck | openstack/horizon change: https://review.openstack.org/121935 failed gate-horizon-pep8 in the gate queue with an unrecognized error | 05:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Enable nova multi host on aiopcpu tests https://review.openstack.org/131604 | 06:06 |
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| openstackrecheck | openstack/nova change: https://review.openstack.org/121965 failed gate-tempest-dsvm-full in the gate queue with an unrecognized error | 06:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Abhishek G M proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Test to verify shared attribute of network https://review.openstack.org/124998 | 06:37 |
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| yfried | masayukig: ping | 06:53 |
| yfried | gmann: ping | 06:54 |
| gmann | yfried: pong | 06:54 |
| yfried | gmann: remember this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120070/ ? | 06:54 |
| gmann | yfried: ah yes | 06:55 |
| yfried | gmann: so I think this is finally ready. the bug is fixed and the test passed on my machine with 100 vms | 06:56 |
| yfried | gmann: though this requires some tweaks ad | 06:56 |
| yfried | at the gate | 06:56 |
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| yfried | gmann: ie - build timeout should be extended an some quotas need to be disabled | 06:57 |
| yfried | gmann: but I wonder if the existing 100 machines isn't too much for a gate-vm | 06:57 |
| yfried | gmann: run-time on my machine is ~700sec per iteration, with 3 iterations so its ~30min test | 06:58 |
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| yfried | gmann: and I'm using a bare-metal server instead of a VM with questionable resources | 06:59 |
| yfried | gmann: I wonder if we really need to test 100 vms in the gate. I also wonder why it has to run 3 times | 06:59 |
| gmann | yfried: 3 times is fine as test timeout is 500 sec for single tests | 07:00 |
| gmann | yfried: but as you mentioned it takes ~700 sec per iteration, can be issue on gate | 07:00 |
| gmann | yfried: bug fixed you mean - bug#1372049? | 07:01 |
| yfried | gmann: I'm also concerned that 100 vms is overtaxing the single-node setup. not sure that openstack is designed to support that | 07:01 |
| yfried | gmann: yep. that's the bug | 07:02 |
| yfried | gmann: fixed on the nova side | 07:02 |
| yfried | gmann: I think 50 machines is "large-scale" enough | 07:03 |
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| yfried | gmann: brb | 07:03 |
| gmann | yfried: humm actually I am not in favor of 50 as we should not truncate actual large ops testing | 07:04 |
| gmann | yfried: but Nova has fixed the max thread issue in master means for Kilo. are they planning to backport those for J and I also? | 07:06 |
| gmann | yfried: bcz for us(tempest), without backport it would not work. | 07:06 |
| gmann | yfried: another idea i have that let large ops build 100 VM and you can perform connectivity check for half of them? | 07:07 |
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| yfried | gmann: well, I don't remember if we've discussed this or not, but the current test doesn't do ANYTHING | 07:21 |
| yfried | gmann: it checks that nova can process a request for multiple vms. it could easily be part of the nova tree | 07:22 |
| yfried | gmann: I think we can drop that for a meaningful integration test | 07:23 |
| yfried | gmann: we aren't loosing anything by reducing the number of VMs because we didn't have anything in the first place. I think I'll try and bring it up at tomorrow's mtg. | 07:24 |
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| yfried | gmann: or, the "scenario" could move to nova api because it's not exercising any other component ATM | 07:26 |
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| yfried | gmann: I'll ask about backporting the patch to K or I | 07:27 |
| gmann | yfried: yes, that will be good to discuss in tomorrow meeting. | 07:28 |
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| yfried | gmann: assuming there is one? | 07:29 |
| gmann | yfried: IMO, we should keep it in scenario and can extend this tests for other component too may be by reducing number of VMs or by having other operation (like connectivity) on limited VMs | 07:30 |
| yfried | gmann: if we have network in the tenant, it's a very bad hack to get only 50% of the VMs to connect to it | 07:31 |
| yfried | gmann: easier to lower the total num | 07:32 |
| gmann | yfried: ahh. if there is no meeting, you can discuss in summit on last day session which is shared with infra team | 07:32 |
| gmann | yfried: hoping you will be there :) | 07:33 |
| yfried | gmann: too bad I'm leaving Wednesday night... | 07:33 |
| gmann | yfried: even I am also not able to make :( | 07:35 |
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| yfried | gmann: there was a pad with summit preparations. do you know where it is? | 07:36 |
| gmann | yfried: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-qa-summit-topics | 07:36 |
| yfried | gmann: tnx | 07:36 |
| gmann | yfried: np! | 07:37 |
| yfried | gmann: does "interested" means "would like to attend" or "would like to speak"? | 07:38 |
| gmann | yfried: "would like to attend" | 07:39 |
| yfried | gmann: oh. then I'm interested in all of them... :) | 07:39 |
| gmann | yfried: :) | 07:39 |
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| yfried | gmann: you wouldn't happen to know of a similar pad for network/neutron, would you? | 07:42 |
| gmann | yfried: sorry, no idea | 07:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Add internal methods for setting compute clients https://review.openstack.org/131664 | 08:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Use JSON clients if disabling XML compute support https://review.openstack.org/131665 | 08:14 |
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| openstackrecheck | openstack/horizon change: https://review.openstack.org/131645 failed because of: gate-tempest-dsvm-full: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1373513 | 08:38 |
| yfried | afazekas: is there a QA mtg this week? wiki says "No meeting next week" but I assume it refers to the summit week | 08:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Correct docstring indentation https://review.openstack.org/131366 | 08:52 |
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| nikesh_vedams_ | i am trying to deploy devstack on RHEL-6.5 | 08:53 |
| nikesh_vedams_ | but i am getting below error | 08:53 |
| nikesh_vedams_ | http://paste.openstack.org/show/126342/ | 08:53 |
| nikesh_vedams_ | did any-one face this issue | 08:53 |
| nikesh_vedams_ | ? | 08:54 |
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| yfried | nikesh_vedams_: are you pulling latest master (Kilo)? | 09:29 |
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| nikesh_vedams_ | yfried: yes | 09:34 |
| nikesh_vedams_ | but after that i changed to juno | 09:34 |
| nikesh_vedams_ | but still i am getting error | 09:34 |
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| yfried | nikesh_vedams_: don't know if that's your problem, but RHEL6 is using python26 I don't think juno is supported on el6. | 09:36 |
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| nikesh_vedams_ | yfried: i think rhel6 supports devstack | 09:40 |
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| nikesh_vedams_ | yfried: yfried | 09:41 |
| nikesh_vedams_ | yfried:http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/ | 09:41 |
| yfried | nikesh_vedams_: devstack yes, but not juno. | 09:41 |
| nikesh_vedams_ | kkk i am installing devstack with juno on rhel6 | 09:42 |
| nikesh_vedams_ | kkk | 09:42 |
| yfried | nikesh_vedams_: I know RedHat aren't doing RHEL-OSP-6 on el6. only for el7 | 09:42 |
| nikesh_vedams_ | so icehouse will work | 09:42 |
| nikesh_vedams_ | am i right | 09:42 |
| nikesh_vedams_ | ? | 09:42 |
| yfried | nikesh_vedams_: hopefully | 09:42 |
| yfried | nikesh_vedams_: let me know how it goes | 09:42 |
| yfried | nikesh_vedams_: are you intersted in devstack only? you could go for RDO | 09:43 |
| nikesh_vedams_ | kkk i am doing now git checkout stable/icehouse | 09:43 |
| nikesh_vedams_ | what is RDO? | 09:44 |
| yfried | nikesh_vedams_: https://openstack.redhat.com/Main_Page | 09:44 |
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| yfried | nikesh_vedams_: btw, what's "kkk"? | 09:45 |
| nikesh_vedams_ | oh sorry | 09:46 |
| nikesh_vedams_ | i mean okk | 09:46 |
| yfried | nikesh_vedams_: oh. well good luck | 09:46 |
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| openstackrecheck | openstack/nova change: https://review.openstack.org/129276 failed because of: gate-tempest-dsvm-full: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1373513 | 10:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Davidge proposed a change to openstack-dev/devstack: Add IPv6 support for tenant data network https://review.openstack.org/87987 | 10:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | chandan kumar proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Fixes volume client in volume tests https://review.openstack.org/131693 | 10:33 |
| chandankumar | gmann, jordanP Hello | 10:33 |
| chandankumar | gmann, jordanP please have a look at this patch: https://review.openstack.org/131693 | 10:34 |
| jordanP | chandankumar, i'd rather wait for jenkins :) | 10:34 |
| chandankumar | jordanP, :) | 10:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Flavio Percoco proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Set ZAQAR_BACKEND in localrc if present https://review.openstack.org/128224 | 10:50 |
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| sdague | ianw: so I don't actually know how to do the bashate release because mrodden worked it out and was doing it. If you figure out instructions, I'm happy to cut it (or figure out how to give you permissions to do it) | 11:06 |
| ianw | sdague: ok, i can confer with him. he said something about the PTL doing it | 11:07 |
| sdague | yeh, he's the bashate ptl | 11:07 |
| sdague | but I'm sure we could open up the permissions to give core release authority | 11:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed a change to openstack-dev/devstack: Revert "Single quote iniset argument in merge_config_file" https://review.openstack.org/131334 | 11:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Add scenario test for swift-proxy ceilometer middleware https://review.openstack.org/115971 | 11:19 |
| vrovachev | sdague: ping | 11:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed a change to openstack-dev/devstack: Fix up file-matching in bashate tox test https://review.openstack.org/128809 | 11:21 |
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| sdague | vrovachev: don't just ping, if you have a question ask it. :P | 11:27 |
| sdague | ianw: so... why was E021 added to bashate anyway? | 11:27 |
| sdague | because we know it's bash, not posix shell | 11:28 |
| jordanP | gmann, hi, I don't get the comment on : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116452/2/tempest/services/object_storage/account_client.py can you explain plz ? | 11:28 |
| cdent | ianw: I trod on your stuff again, I assumed you were sleeping (128809 above). | 11:29 |
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| vrovachev | sdague: http://th04.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2011/288/c/2/okay_by_rober_raik-d4cw242.png :) About patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67164/ . After amerge patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114514/ ceilo works faster, and tests tests don't fails | 11:31 |
| cdent | meh, the provided advice did not fix it | 11:31 |
| sdague | vrovachev: but it's still an unbounded race condition right? Like there is no way to 100% ensure that it runs in the window | 11:32 |
| sdague | we really can't add new tests that have known non deterministic behavior | 11:32 |
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| cdent | sdague: that's going to be case with anything driven by notifications, not just ceilometer related tests | 11:34 |
| cdent | I agree that non-deterministic behavior needs to be shot dead | 11:34 |
| cdent | but when so much of the system is, that's problematic... | 11:35 |
| sdague | cdent: right, this is why there was a bunch of discussion about getting flush APIs in the right places | 11:35 |
| cdent | If we want to get reid of non-determinism, then we should probably not boot instances, because who knows how long that's going to take... | 11:36 |
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| cdent | ;) | 11:36 |
| sdague | :P | 11:36 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tempest: Add list-networks test for os-networks API https://review.openstack.org/112944 | 11:36 |
| cdent | where is this "flush" discussion happening? Can you point me at some? | 11:36 |
| sdague | it's been kind of spread out over IRC, gerrit reviews, I don't remember if it was on the list or not | 11:37 |
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| DinaBelova | sdague, well, cdent is right.... I'm kind of curious what to do with these tests :) we *need* them to define if ceilometer is working in (let's say in 99% of the cases when testing lab is behaving ok itself), but that needs us to rely on the chain something-queue-something is working | 11:38 |
| sdague | so I remain -2 on adding new ceilometer notification test to tempest, because we've actually had to skip every one we've added for high failure rates, which really to me means we need a different approach | 11:38 |
| vrovachev | sdague: but we sure, if test falls, it will not be guilty ceilometer | 11:38 |
| sdague | DinaBelova: these seem like the sort of thing to pull back into ceilometer functional test, where you could make a white box internal call to trigger notifications flushing | 11:38 |
| sdague | vrovachev: that's not been true in the past | 11:39 |
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| sdague | because this class of tests has been *so* problematic | 11:39 |
| vrovachev | sdague: then ceilo was different :) | 11:39 |
| cdent | For the sake of fixing my ignorance can someone define the mechanism for "notifications flushing"? How does that work? | 11:40 |
| sdague | cdent: so the issue now is the fact that a bunch of what happens only happens when periodic jobs trigger | 11:40 |
| sdague | which in a real environment... is some random time in the future that you don't know | 11:40 |
| cdent | I think we may have some language difficulties going on here. When a ceilometer person is talking about a "notification" they usually mean something that some other service has put on the message bus: that service is in charge of when that happens. | 11:42 |
| cdent | Those notifications are consumed as meters. | 11:42 |
| cdent | There are also pollings, which happen on a period | 11:42 |
| cdent | ceilometer is in charge of that period | 11:43 |
| sdague | yep | 11:43 |
| cdent | so I'm a bit confused | 11:43 |
| cdent | where is the "flush"? | 11:43 |
| cdent | that is: what is responsible for it? | 11:43 |
| sdague | the flush would have to be able to trigger the periodic jobs of the servers on demand | 11:43 |
| sdague | which, yes, is bigger than ceilometer | 11:43 |
| sdague | but is needed for ceilometer verification in a deterministic way | 11:44 |
| sdague | at the integration level | 11:44 |
| cdent | so you're imagingin that a service which does notifications could be inspired to dump its notificaitons _now_ based on recieving a signal of some kind | 11:44 |
| sdague | yep | 11:44 |
| cdent | SIGUSR2 to process whateves | 11:44 |
| sdague | or a network API call | 11:44 |
| sdague | /admin/flush | 11:44 |
| cdent | network api call not very deterministic on a non-deterministic network ;) | 11:45 |
| sdague | it is if it's synchronous | 11:45 |
| sdague | it would be a blocking call | 11:45 |
| cdent | What I mean is that sometimes the network simply isn't behaving as expected. | 11:45 |
| cdent | so you can't even get to the API | 11:45 |
| cdent | it was mostly a joke | 11:46 |
| sdague | :) | 11:46 |
| cdent | but is an effort to point out: everything is really fragile | 11:46 |
| sdague | anyway, there is a lot of history about the unreliability of these tests in the past, so we should really have an overview document about the test plan and approach here and why it's not going to add any new gate failures | 11:46 |
| cdent | Do you think the idea of getting services to be flushable has traction | 11:46 |
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| sdague | honestly, I don't know, but it's been something I brought up at least 6 months ago, and no one has investigated | 11:47 |
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| cdent | :( | 11:48 |
| * cdent needs clones | 11:48 | |
| sdague | but it's *really* important that we don't add anything to tempest that has a known non trivial race chance. And because these tests have had giant races in the past, the burden of proof is back on the ceilometer team to prove that. | 11:48 |
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| sdague | because I've lost too many days of work figuring out that the ceilometer tests were broken by design and need to be turned off. :( | 11:49 |
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| ianw | cdent: ok, just a rebase? | 11:49 |
| cdent | ianw: yeah, but it didn't fix it | 11:49 |
| cdent | sdague: I feel your pain. I too see a lot of broken by design. | 11:50 |
| sdague | yep, we've got spades of it all over | 11:50 |
| sdague | lets try to fix that :) | 11:50 |
| ianw | cdent: that change can't merge until a new release of bashate | 11:50 |
| cdent | ianw: yeah, I realized that after the fact | 11:50 |
| cdent | (and seeing you and sdague talking earlier about releasing) | 11:51 |
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| cdent | sdague: yes, onward etc | 11:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Abhishek G M proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Test to verify shared attribute of network https://review.openstack.org/124998 | 11:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Remove nosetests.xml reference https://review.openstack.org/131714 | 11:53 |
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| eglynn | cdent, sdague: just catching up with the backlog on the notification "flushing" notion | 12:31 |
| eglynn | ... surely we're not in general talking about *periodic* notifications here? | 12:31 |
| eglynn | (... e.g. the nova instance audit) | 12:31 |
| eglynn | ... rather we're talking about resource-lifecycle notification driven by the actual state transitions? | 12:31 |
| yfried | nikesh_vedams_: did you solve the problems? | 12:31 |
| eglynn | I update an image in glance => I expect an image.updated notification | 12:31 |
| sdague | eglynn: my understanding on why this stuff failed in the past was not all resource lifecycle events happen immediately | 12:32 |
| eglynn | sdague: that's interesting, because I though the emission of such notifications was in-line in the nova workflow initiated by the API call | 12:33 |
| eglynn | sdague: ... so adding a new flush API wouldn't necessarily help, since the notifications are API-triggered already | 12:33 |
| sdague | but, again, I think the point is we need test plan overview here that ensures that's not the case. If we are sure we're not adding more non determinism into the mix I'm fine with moving forward, but I don't feel like that's clear | 12:33 |
| eglynn | sdague: OK, so if I hearing correctly, a test plan for what we intend to keep in tempest and what we'll move to the new in-tree functional test suite in kilo? | 12:34 |
| eglynn | sdague: ... yes, agreed, that could be an output from the related summit discussions | 12:35 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: yum non interactive https://review.openstack.org/130719 | 12:35 |
| sdague | eglynn: well, more specifically, for stuff coming into tempest, any possible race conditions that exist and why they are not likely to show up in test runs. | 12:35 |
| sdague | that's the piece which is missing really | 12:35 |
| sdague | and what we need to evaluate adding new tests, because those tests depend on a lot of behind the scenes things happening, and a clear analysis of the expected interaction points behind the scenes, where any of them might fail (or how they can't fail) and what that means for the likelihood that the test ends up non-deterministic | 12:36 |
| eglynn | sdague: so just to clarify, by "race" here we mean a test assertion that depends on an synchronous event, and how we can reasonably and reliability bound the wait for that event to occur? | 12:37 |
| eglynn | sdague: if so, agreed, that analysis of the moving parts and their interactions should be written down | 12:38 |
| sdague | eglynn: yes, if you mean "asynchronous" | 12:38 |
| eglynn | sdague: haha, yep, Fruedian slip on my part :) | 12:38 |
| sdague | :) | 12:38 |
| sdague | yeh, I think if we had those interactions written down, and the expecations, I'd feel a lot more comfortable here | 12:39 |
| sdague | because in the past we did a lot of whack-a-mole, and I'd like to avoid that going forward | 12:39 |
| eglynn | sdague: yep, I think we can commit to doing that for the ceilometer tests that will remain in, or be added to, tempest | 12:39 |
| sdague | awesome | 12:39 |
| sdague | thanks | 12:39 |
| eglynn | sdague: understood, that'll be something I'll aim for immediately post-summit (once the in-tree test approach is clearer) | 12:40 |
| sdague | sounds perfect, thank you | 12:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Benny Kopilov proposed a change to openstack/tempest: compute-image : create server from saved snapshot image https://review.openstack.org/120899 | 12:40 |
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| nikesh_vedams_ | yfried: | 12:51 |
| nikesh_vedams_ | i am trying | 12:51 |
| nikesh_vedams_ | i will let you know | 12:51 |
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| cdent | It occurs to me, sdague, that many of the ceilometer+notifications problems that were happening in the past were probably because this hadn't been fixed: I1c06d0511fbf93050cda56d9d2de0ff00813dfb6 | 12:54 |
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| cdent | oops, sorry: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113522/ | 12:54 |
| sdague | cdent: so, that's possible. But I still think that given history, we should make sure we're not introducing similar kinds of issues. Instead of just hoping that we aren't. | 12:55 |
| cdent | Yes, I agree, was just adding a bit more data to the shared mind. | 12:55 |
| sdague | yep | 12:55 |
| DinaBelova | cdent, thanks for the lnk | 12:55 |
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| eglynn | cdent: I don't think that was the problem in the problem nova notification test | 12:57 |
| cdent | the other main factor was that the collectors were too slow | 12:57 |
| eglynn | cdent: ... IIUC that test didn't follow closely after a service/rabbitmq restart? | 12:57 |
| cdent | I don't think there's any one single cause, its a complex of things, and we have to recognize that each change will push us along | 12:58 |
| cdent | That's the trouble with what we're (inaccurately) calling race conditions: they aren't single source. | 12:59 |
| eglynn | cdent: sure, there may be multiple causes, nova tardiness in emitting the notification, ceilo slowness in ingesting it etc | 13:00 |
| eglynn | cdent: . ... I just don't think amqp restart was a factor in that test failure | 13:00 |
| cdent | Okay, but I didn't say it was. | 13:01 |
| cdent | " many of the ceilometer+notifications problems" | 13:02 |
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| eglynn | cdent: apologies, I assumed relevance to the prior conversation on notification test failures in tempest | 13:04 |
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| openstackrecheck | openstack/nova change: https://review.openstack.org/131461 failed because of: gate-tempest-dsvm-full: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1373513 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1352498 | 13:14 |
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| chandankumar | dkranz, hello | 13:17 |
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| chandankumar | dkranz, jordanP gmann please have a look https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131693/ , When you are free. Thanks :) | 13:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | chandan kumar proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Fixes volume client in volume tests https://review.openstack.org/131693 | 13:32 |
| yfried | dkranz: is there a qa mtg tomorrow? | 13:33 |
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| dkranz | yfried: I am not sure, but I won't be at it if there is. | 13:34 |
| yfried | mtreinish: ^^ | 13:34 |
| yfried | dkranz: also, I heard you used to have a qa get-together at the beginning of previous summits. is there one next week? I didn't see anything in the ML | 13:35 |
| dkranz | yfried: no, it was not at the beginning. It was more spur-of-the-moment. The presence of the mid-cycle like event at the end lessens the need for this. | 13:36 |
| yfried | dkranz: too bad I was looking forward to this. and I won't be at the final 2days | 13:37 |
| dkranz | yfried: sorry | 13:37 |
| yfried | dkranz: you should be. :) | 13:40 |
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| yfried | dkranz: about your spec. I didn't understand your comment re my objection to inheriting dict | 13:50 |
| dkranz | yfried: I don't see a problem with inheriting. If we do what you are suggesting, we are relying on knowing what all the code inside unittest thinks this object is. | 13:53 |
| dkranz | yfried: The failures were in assertIn | 13:53 |
| dkranz | yfried: buried way down in some path | 13:53 |
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| dkranz | yfried: I don't think this is a big deal and am not willing to invest more energy in this. | 13:53 |
| yfried | dkranz: I just want to understand this | 13:54 |
| dkranz | yfried: I don't understand all the details | 13:54 |
| yfried | dkranz: why is unittest a factor? we are replacing a normal dict with our own object | 13:54 |
| dkranz | yfried: yes, but we are passing that object to assertIn | 13:55 |
| dkranz | yfried: and that works when we "are" a dict, but not when we wrap it | 13:55 |
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| yfried | dkranz: oh, I see - assertIn is designed to deal with dict but we'll be sending it the object | 13:55 |
| dkranz | yfried: yes | 13:55 |
| dkranz | yfried: actually I don't know whether it is designed to deal only with dict but the interface is unadvertised and therefore very fragile for us to depend on | 13:56 |
| dkranz | yfried: I agree with you in principal | 13:56 |
| dkranz | principle | 13:56 |
| yfried | dkranz: ok. so please document that in the bp and the code to explain the choice of inheritance over composition | 13:56 |
| dkranz | yfried: I will document it in the bp | 13:57 |
| yfried | dkranz: as I assume this question will be raised by others from time to time. | 13:57 |
| dkranz | yfried: well, AttributeDict also inherits from dict | 13:57 |
| dkranz | yfried: but ok | 13:58 |
| yfried | dkranz: AttributeDict is what got me to object to your way in the first place | 13:59 |
| yfried | dkranz: please add the reason the the code as well. Too much documentation is not a problem for us ATM | 13:59 |
| dkranz | yfried: I am just saying that I don't expect code to be documented with every alternative implementation choice that could have been made. | 13:59 |
| yfried | dkranz: me too, but I forsee this would come into question from time to time and havine a one-line about the assertIn as example would help a lot for ppl looking at it who weren't part of the spec discussion | 14:01 |
| yfried | dkranz: need to go assemble puzzles. will talk later | 14:01 |
| dkranz | yfried: I really don't see what is wrong with inheriting from dict and don't see evidence that your counter-view is widely held. | 14:03 |
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| mrodden | ianw: sdague: just got done with my morning meetings and was going to check those patches from yesterday before doing a release on bashate | 14:18 |
| mtreinish | yfried: yes, I was planning to have the regular meeting tomorrow, even if its short | 14:20 |
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| dkranz | yfried|afk: BTW, I'm not sure where the idea that inheriting from dict is bad comes from. It is even advertised as a feature here: https://docs.python.org/2/library/userdict.html | 14:29 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: there's nothing wrong with doing it | 14:30 |
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| mrodden | ianw: sdague: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/bashate/0.3.0 | 14:30 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: :) | 14:30 |
| sdague | mrodden: great | 14:30 |
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| sdague | mrodden: is there release instructions somewhere? | 14:31 |
| mrodden | yeah somewhere... | 14:31 |
| mrodden | let me look | 14:31 |
| mtreinish | mrodden: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Client_Release_Process | 14:32 |
| mtreinish | it's just create a tag and then git push gerrit tag | 14:32 |
| mtreinish | mrodden: or https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/QA/releases | 14:33 |
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| mrodden | i usually follow this https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GerritJenkinsGit#Tagging_a_Release | 14:37 |
| mrodden | its a bit more generic to all projects | 14:37 |
| mrodden | except i tagged the wrong thing | 14:40 |
| mrodden | derp | 14:40 |
| mrodden | 0.3.1 out now :) | 14:43 |
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| dkranz | chmouel: when deploying swift, is it required to create the ResellerAdmin role? | 15:57 |
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| dkranz | chmouel: tempest adds this role in one of its tests and I was wondering if it is the responsibility of a swift deployer to create that role. | 15:58 |
| dkranz | notmyname: ^^^ | 15:58 |
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| mtreinish | dkranz: IIRC, that test is testing the use of that role which is why it adds the role from config to a user | 16:08 |
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| mtreinish | dkranz: I think it get's set by default in the swift keystone auth to 'ResellerAdmin' so it should always be set (I'm not 100% though it's been a while since I looked at it) | 16:10 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: I understand that and it implies that swift is using that role. The question was whether a swift deployment is buggy if it does not create that role in keystone. | 16:35 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: This is part of the project to separate tempest from devstack or any particular installer completely. | 16:36 |
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| mtreinish | dkranz: no, that's what I was saying I think when you configure to swift to use keystone auth it creates the role | 16:38 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: so you are saying the answer is yes, when you install swift you are supposed to do that. So tempest configuration does not need to deal with that. | 16:39 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: That is what I thought but wanted confirmation | 16:40 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: well assuming you've configured swift to use keystone auth (which is a prereq for tempest) | 16:40 |
| mtreinish | if you give me a few mins I can take a look in the code | 16:40 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I can look. Which code? | 16:41 |
| mtreinish | the swift keystone auth bits | 16:42 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I checked. There is a reseller_admin_role in conf that defaults to ResellerAdmin. So if you deploy swift/keystone and don't create that role, your install procedure is buggy. That is what I was looking for. | 16:45 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I mean in swift conf file | 16:46 |
| mtreinish | yeah, I knew what you meant :) | 16:46 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tempest: Fix the flavor ram string value https://review.openstack.org/131637 | 16:48 |
| openstackrecheck | openstack/glance change: https://review.openstack.org/128928 failed because of: gate-tempest-dsvm-full: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1373513 | 16:49 |
| chmouel | dkranz: yes, we need the ResellerAdmin for some of the tempest tests, | 16:50 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: So I just read your email and it represents my thoughts exactly. Do you want to co-lead that cross-project session? | 16:51 |
| chmouel | dkranz: not for every use case but to test the access to different projects from the same admin user | 16:51 |
| dkranz | chmouel: yes, thanks | 16:51 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: BTW, it would be great if we could use changes to the clients in tempest-lib as the way to detect changes. | 16:52 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: But I think we will need to get rid of usage of **kwargs as inputs to the rest client functions in order to do that. | 16:53 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: I'm fine letting you lead it, the leader just sits in the center :) | 16:53 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: else you could change the api but not the code since it would be a pass-through | 16:53 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: ok :) | 16:53 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: but I am glad to see we are on the same page since that was not clear to me in the past | 16:54 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: heh, I'm sure when we get down to the details there will be differences in opinion :) | 16:56 |
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| openstackrecheck | openstack/ceilometer change: https://review.openstack.org/131525 failed because of: gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1370496 | 17:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Mate Lakat proposed a change to openstack-dev/devstack: XenAPI: move Neutron plugin install to domU https://review.openstack.org/129208 | 17:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Mate Lakat proposed a change to openstack-dev/devstack: XenAPI: Remove non-used functions https://review.openstack.org/129209 | 17:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Mate Lakat proposed a change to openstack-dev/devstack: XenAPI: workaround for unsupp. associative arrays https://review.openstack.org/127603 | 17:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed a change to openstack/tempest: POC: test if unicode server name works on boot https://review.openstack.org/131833 | 17:23 |
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| mriedem | mtreinish: grenade testing with neutron is non-voting/experimental right now right? | 17:37 |
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| mtreinish | mriedem: yes | 17:41 |
| mtreinish | it was non-voting check for a bit, but we moved it to the experimental queue | 17:41 |
| mriedem | mtreinish: ok, going up on the CI etherpad gap list then :) | 17:42 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: link? | 17:43 |
| mriedem | it's not ready yet :) | 17:43 |
| mriedem | i'll present it in all it's glory soon | 17:44 |
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| mtreinish | heh, ok | 17:44 |
| mriedem | i'm letting mastodon at high volumes move my fingeres | 17:44 |
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| skata_ | Hello .. I get the follwoing error when gerrit tries to connect to review.openstack.org " Connection error : com.jcraft.jsch.JSchException: ProxyHTTP: java.io.IOException: proxy error: Forbidden" .. Can anyone give me pointers to the debug the issue? Any help is really appreciated! Thanks! | 17:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tempest: Correct docstring indentation https://review.openstack.org/131366 | 18:01 |
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| lifeless | random question | 18:45 |
| lifeless | is anyone interested in validating the unittest2 changes before I do a 0.7.0 release containing them ? | 18:45 |
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| mordred | hrm | 18:48 |
| * mordred trying to think of a non-insane way to test that | 18:48 | |
| lifeless | its only two years of backports of unittest changes in cpython that we're not using anywhere else. | 18:48 |
| lifeless | WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG | 18:48 |
| mordred | lifeless: I can't think of a thing | 18:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Enable nova multi host on aiopcpu tests https://review.openstack.org/131604 | 19:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/devstack: allow for soft updating of global-requirements https://review.openstack.org/131198 | 19:08 |
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| sdague | dtroyer: if you aren't on a plane already - what's valid values for endpoint_type except publicURL? | 19:31 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129357/4/novaclient/shell.py | 19:31 |
| dtroyer | sdague: (between flights) adminURL and internalURL IIRC | 19:32 |
| sdague | ok | 19:32 |
| sdague | seems odd that we don't have the service catalog set the preference, as it should be aware of what works for the environment, no? | 19:33 |
| mtreinish | sdague: I think public, admin, and internal are also valid values too | 19:33 |
| sdague | mtreinish: ok, is there an enum somewhere? I did moderate grepping and just found strings being passed around | 19:34 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: heh, I just remembered when it was added to tempest and looked at the list of what's allowed there | 19:34 |
| mtreinish | I would imagine it's somewhere in keystone? lbragstad ^^^ any ideas? | 19:35 |
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| dtroyer | sdague: before the auth plugins that was all a mess, I haven't looked at cleaning up the old clients as they get updated, not sure if that's possible without breaking compat | 19:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Enable nova multi host on aiopcpu tests https://review.openstack.org/131604 | 19:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed a change to openstack-dev/devstack: Add pcre devel package for Horizon https://review.openstack.org/128603 | 19:51 |
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| lbragstad | mtreinish: reading back.. | 20:18 |
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| lbragstad | mtreinish: looking for what is allowed as an acceptable value for endpoint['interface']? | 20:19 |
| lbragstad | mtreinish: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/f45b3e5e0000f33c3da0349a0f475d5de71ee9de/keystone/catalog/schema.py#L71 | 20:21 |
| lbragstad | sdague: ^ | 20:21 |
| lbragstad | so, 'admin', 'internal', and 'public' are acceptable values | 20:21 |
| sdague | lbragstad: ok, so publicURL ? | 20:21 |
| sdague | or are we munging that somewhere along the way | 20:21 |
| lbragstad | sdague: amending the above statement for V3 only.. | 20:22 |
| lbragstad | sdague: checking V2 | 20:22 |
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| lbragstad | sdague: according to the v2 api code, 'publicurl' is mandatory for create endpoint requests. https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/f45b3e5e0000f33c3da0349a0f475d5de71ee9de/keystone/catalog/controllers.py#L98 | 20:24 |
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| openstackrecheck | openstack/nova change: https://review.openstack.org/114539 failed because of: gate-tempest-dsvm-full: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1244457 | 20:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-dev/devstack: Make allow_{resize|migrate}_to_same_host configurable https://review.openstack.org/131557 | 20:59 |
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| sdague | jogo: so why != "False" vs. == "True" | 21:03 |
| sdague | double negatives are a little weird to read | 21:03 |
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| sdague | if you respin fast I'll give you a +2 :) | 21:03 |
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| jogo | sdague: I cut and paste from somewhere else | 21:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-dev/devstack: Make allow_{resize|migrate}_to_same_host configurable https://review.openstack.org/131557 | 21:05 |
| jogo | sdague: ^ fixed | 21:05 |
| sdague | +2 | 21:06 |
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| mtreinish | jogo: I'll +A it when jenkins comes back | 21:06 |
| mtreinish | although I prefer double negatives... | 21:06 |
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| jogo | mtreinish: hehe | 21:09 |
| mtreinish | sdague: what to +A the tempest-lib migration patch: https://review.openstack.org/117649 | 21:11 |
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| sdague | mtreinish: sure, though it did fail again. | 21:15 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: ooh, a 500 on a server get that's ugly: http://logs.openstack.org/49/117649/11/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/f59d991/console.html#_2014-10-27_16_16_23_313 | 21:18 |
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| jogo | just got a ERROR (InstanceInErrorState): No valid host was found. | 21:19 |
| jogo | from HP | 21:19 |
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| mtreinish | jogo: heh, I've seen that from hp cloud before too | 21:19 |
| mrodden | ruh roh | 21:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed a change to openstack-dev/devstack: Add iptables rule for Ironic VMs -> Swift https://review.openstack.org/131876 | 21:19 |
| jogo | moar cloud please | 21:19 |
| sdague | ok, time to call it an day. Will chat with folks in the morning | 21:20 |
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| mtreinish | jogo, mriedem: ugh, a timeout to neutron: http://logs.openstack.org/49/117649/11/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/f59d991/logs/screen-n-api.txt.gz#_2014-10-27_16_05_16_239 | 21:42 |
| mriedem | mtreinish: i feel like that's not news... | 21:43 |
| mtreinish | probably not, I'm sure it's been seen before | 21:43 |
| mriedem | i've seen that kind of thing a lot in our internal CI runs | 21:44 |
| mriedem | with smaller flavor'ed vm's | 21:44 |
| mriedem | 2 cpu | 21:44 |
| mriedem | but not running concurrently with testr | 21:45 |
| mriedem | we have what now, ncpu / 2 workers in devstack for everything except keystone workers? | 21:45 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: yeah I think that's right. jogo ^^^? | 21:47 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: but if you're running serially that would be weird because it shouldn't have an issue handling 1 request at a time | 21:47 |
| jogo | mtreinish: sounds right | 21:48 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: hmm, looking at the neutron log it doesn't crash or anything but there is a 30sec gap where the request fails: http://logs.openstack.org/49/117649/11/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/f59d991/logs/screen-q-svc.txt.gz#_2014-10-27_16_05_16_238 | 21:48 |
| jogo | mtreinish: check dstat | 21:48 |
| mtreinish | jogo: low load avgs ~90% idle | 21:49 |
| jogo | that will even show things like failing hard disks (had one recently myself) | 21:49 |
| jogo | mtreinish: even around that 30 second gap? | 21:49 |
| jogo | look at disk IO | 21:49 |
| mtreinish | oops wrong timestamp | 21:49 |
| jogo | and amount of CPU waiting for disk | 21:49 |
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| mriedem | 41 hits in 7 days http://goo.gl/y6AH0r | 21:51 |
| mriedem | not sure if we have a bug written | 21:51 |
| mtreinish | jogo: http://paste.openstack.org/show/126725/ | 21:51 |
| mriedem | why is java running again? | 21:52 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: I think that's the jenkins slave stuff | 21:53 |
| mriedem | ah | 21:53 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: yeah it is: http://logs.openstack.org/49/117649/11/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/f59d991/logs/ps.txt.gz | 21:53 |
| jogo | mriedem: yeah jenkins | 21:53 |
| mtreinish | although I have no idea why that would be the top process | 21:53 |
| jogo | 60% WAIT is a lot I think | 21:53 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: ^^^ | 21:53 |
| jogo | mtreinish: looks like the disk stops responding for a bit | 21:54 |
| jogo | mtreinish: we have seen that before | 21:54 |
| jogo | mtreinish: I fixed that at home by replacing my HD over the weekend | 21:54 |
| mtreinish | jogo: so you just think it's a bad node or something? | 21:54 |
| jogo | mtreinish: that is my working theory | 21:55 |
| jogo | I wonder what happens if we try using tmfs for some of the more heavily used directories | 21:55 |
| jogo | tmpfs* | 21:55 |
| mtreinish | jogo: well, don't we only have ~2gb avail during a normal run is that enough space? | 21:57 |
| jogo | mtreinish: prob not | 21:57 |
| jogo | I think we have a bit more then that but not a lot of space | 21:57 |
| mtreinish | oh, but on the hp nodes I think clarkb said we're using a 32gb flavor and just only use 8 | 21:58 |
| jogo | we use 6+GB of what appears t obe 8 | 21:58 |
| mtreinish | so maybe we could play with it there | 21:58 |
| jogo | mtreinish: I don't think it would help | 21:58 |
| jogo | its more of a fun bandaid | 21:58 |
| jogo | but it sounds like we are disk limited in a lot of runs | 21:58 |
| jogo | we should figure out of this is a RAX or HP thing or both | 21:59 |
| clarkb | its 8gb of 30gb nodes | 22:00 |
| clarkb | to ensure we dont actually need 30gb | 22:00 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: is there any way we could turn the unused into a tmpfs? | 22:01 |
| clarkb | then we would need 30gb | 22:02 |
| clarkb | I would bring it up in infra | 22:02 |
| mtreinish | ok | 22:03 |
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| jogo | clarkb: the idea would be, do a lot of disk IO, and this may be a way to speed up tests | 22:08 |
| jogo | tmpfs allows swapping etc | 22:08 |
| jogo | clarkb: it may not be worth it though | 22:08 |
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| clarkb | ya but then we require 30gb nodes to reproduce the gate | 22:08 |
| clarkb | and our nodes are not that big in rax | 22:09 |
| jogo | mtreinish: random question | 22:16 |
| jogo | mtreinish: is keystone v3 the default for nova tempest tests? | 22:17 |
| jogo | mtreinish: if not how do we change that? | 22:17 |
| jogo | mtreinish: as it *should* just work at this point | 22:17 |
| mtreinish | jogo: it's not, tempest by default will get a token using keystone v2 right now | 22:18 |
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| mtreinish | there is an experimental job which runs using keystone v3 | 22:18 |
| jogo | mtreinish: oh cool, whats the timeline to make that the default? | 22:18 |
| jogo | and does it work? | 22:19 |
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| mtreinish | jogo: don't know if it works, it was blocked for a while because of the official client story | 22:19 |
| jogo | right | 22:19 |
| mtreinish | but since we moved to using the tempest clients for scenario that's not a problem anymore | 22:19 |
| jogo | mtreinish: any good patch to test it on? | 22:19 |
| mtreinish | jogo: it looks like it works: http://logs.openstack.org/55/130655/3/experimental/check-tempest-dsvm-keystonev3-full/39d292d/ | 22:20 |
| jogo | oh I'll just use https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117649/ :) | 22:20 |
| jogo | is the format to do experimental still 'check experimental'? | 22:21 |
| mtreinish | jogo: it is, but those results I posted are from monday | 22:21 |
| jogo | mtreinish: cool, assuming we didn't break it since Monday | 22:22 |
| jogo | I think we should try to move over to v3 by default in the not to distant future | 22:22 |
| mtreinish | I'd hope so :) | 22:22 |
| jogo | mtreinish: maybe let morganfainberg push a patch up | 22:23 |
| jogo | morganfainberg: ^ | 22:23 |
| mtreinish | also the cli tests will still be using v2 because there's nothing else for them | 22:23 |
| jogo | mtreinish: right, well that will be fixed in nova soon | 22:23 |
| mtreinish | well probably not on the tempest test side | 22:24 |
| jogo | mtreinish: yeah ... true | 22:24 |
| mtreinish | jogo: but it wouldn't be too hard to do, after 117649 merges I'll push a patch up to make the auth layer for the cli tests more consistent | 22:25 |
| mtreinish | but it'll still be v2 on the cli I'm not sure how that works | 22:25 |
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| morganfainberg | jogo: sure will be happy to push a patch. | 22:32 |
| morganfainberg | But it won't be till tonight or tomorrow. | 22:33 |
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| jogo | mtreinish: ^ read backlog with mtreinish | 22:37 |
| mtreinish | jogo: read the backlog with myself? | 22:38 |
| jogo | mtreinish: derp | 22:39 |
| jogo | morganfainberg: ^ | 22:39 |
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| openstackrecheck | openstack/nova change: https://review.openstack.org/129199 failed because of: gate-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1373513 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1376941 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1352498 | 22:58 |
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| jogo | mtreinish: ^ 3 | 23:04 |
| jogo | good to have openstackrecheck boack | 23:04 |
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