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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Change CLI tests to use auth providers https://review.openstack.org/131906 | 03:05 |
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| chandankumar | gmann, hello | 04:03 |
| chandankumar | gmann, please review this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131693/ | 04:04 |
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| gmann | chandankumar: hi, i will have look. | 04:39 |
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| nikesh_vedams | can i install openstack juno on rhel6.5? | 07:27 |
| nikesh_vedams | if there any document which i can follow to install openstack juno on rhel6.5? | 07:27 |
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| yfried | nikesh_vedams: join #rdo channel for support on openstack with RHEL | 07:35 |
| yfried | nikesh_vedams: but as I said yesterday, I believe you can't | 07:35 |
| nikesh_vedams | yfried: i joined that chaannel | 07:36 |
| yfried | question to summit vets - any way to display the main summit and the design summit scheduals together? the summit App does that but I would like to see them on my pc | 07:36 |
| nikesh_vedams | and waiting for reply | 07:36 |
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| nikesh_vedams | yesterday i tried juno icehouse from devstack on rhel6.5 but i am getting some package missing errros | 07:42 |
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| yfried | nikesh_vedams: told you yesterday that RedHat didn't even try to get Juno on RHEL6. | 08:09 |
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| chandankumar | jordanP, Hello | 08:48 |
| chandankumar | jordanP, yfried Please have a look https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131693/ when you are free | 08:49 |
| chandankumar | Thanks :) | 08:49 |
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| nikesh_vedams | yfried:https://www.redhat.com/archives/rdo-list/2014-September/msg00128.html | 10:17 |
| nikesh_vedams | this is link which make it clear | 10:17 |
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| mtreinish | jogo: per our discussion yesterday: https://review.openstack.org/131906 | 14:14 |
| mtreinish | but that doesn't fix the v3 story because I'm assuming the cli args are different so it'll probably require changes in tempest-lib | 14:14 |
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| mtreinish | hmm, it looks like on tempest runs it's using the pypi version of tempest-lib in the venv, despite having it installed in git by devstack | 14:18 |
| mtreinish | I would have guessed that site-packages would have pulled it in | 14:18 |
| mtreinish | sdague: ^^^ any ideas? | 14:18 |
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| sdague | mtreinish: no, tempest runs in a venv and doesn't use site-packages | 14:24 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: yes they do: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tempest/tree/tox.ini#n6 | 14:29 |
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| sdague | yeh, but the pip install -U I think breaks it | 14:31 |
| sdague | honestly, site-packages in tox.ini doesn't really do what you think | 14:32 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: IIRC it just sets venv flag to inherit packages from the system site-packages dir, but I could see pip -U breaking what I wanted | 14:34 |
| mtreinish | I'm just trying to figure out how to test tempest-lib from git during a tempest run for a proposed tempest-lib change | 14:35 |
| mtreinish | because as it sits right now it's just using the latest release | 14:35 |
| clarkb | -U should work if your versions are sane | 14:36 |
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| sdague | clarkb: I found -U did odd things | 14:36 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: the git installed version is 3.dev38.geef8381 and the release is 0.0.1 | 14:38 |
| clarkb | ya that may explain it | 14:39 |
| mtreinish | err, nm that's the tempest git version | 14:39 |
| mtreinish | not tempest-lib | 14:39 |
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| mtreinish | andreaf: Did I do this correctly?: https://review.openstack.org/131906 | 14:47 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: yes it looks good | 14:50 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: once the credentials object moves into tempest-lib I should make the CLIClient accept a credentials object instead | 14:50 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: so that it may work with any identity api version | 14:51 |
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| andreaf | mtreinish: btw - I won't be able to make it for the meeting today - I wanted to ask input about https://review.openstack.org/115353 - check the last comment from gmann and my reply - I would like to know what people thinks | 14:53 |
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| mtreinish | andreaf: ok, I'll make sure to bring it up during the meeting | 14:55 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: thank you! | 14:55 |
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| cdent | lifeless: Can you (or someone else) point me at some docs on how to control distribution of tests across workers in testr when using concurrency? | 15:13 |
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| cdent | Ideally I'd like to be able to say that everything in a single TestCase is associated with one worker, and even better control the order of the run of that TestCase | 15:13 |
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| clarkb | tempest does the first thing so mtrwinish can probably help. pretty sure order is not controllable at least not via testr (and you really dont want it to be or you end up with the proboscis mess) | 15:22 |
| cdent | clarkb: proboscis mess? | 15:27 |
| bknudson | cdent: we have an example in keystone to group some tests to a single worker (due to multi-process interactions): http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/keystone/tree/.testr.conf#n10 | 15:27 |
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| bknudson | of course, a better thing to do would be to not have multi-process interactions. | 15:28 |
| clarkb | cdent troves test runner allows specific ordering and basically means you cannot run any tests in isolation | 15:28 |
| clarkb | making it incredibly difficult to reason about any single test | 15:29 |
| cdent | thanks bknudson, I had seen similar things in the docs but wasn't sure if there were ways to control it in the tests, so that the shared .testr.conf was messed with | 15:29 |
| bknudson | cdent: you might be able to do it with testresources. | 15:29 |
| cdent | the desire for ordering is because this is for the http tests I'm trying to do and it would make semantic sense for each request to be its own test, rather than under one test | 15:29 |
| cdent | So one declaration file (a yaml file) would be a TestCase, and then each request would be a test (with potentially multiple assertions) | 15:30 |
| jogo | mtreinish: yeah CLI args are different for v3 | 15:30 |
| cdent | and since some requests would be POSTing data for later evaluation, order is important | 15:30 |
| clarkb | cdent so you wouldnt be able to run in isolation... | 15:31 |
| cdent | I don't _have_ to do it that way but since the point is that the file be a readable document, it's order is meaningful | 15:31 |
| clarkb | I find that to be problematic. either make it explicit and run a big test covering it all in order | 15:31 |
| cdent | clarkb: correct, only a Case would be runnable in isolation, not a single test | 15:31 |
| clarkb | or use resources as appropriate in each test to handle dependencies | 15:32 |
| cdent | I guess I'll need to learn a bit more about resources then | 15:32 |
| cdent | These aren't supposed to be unit tests, so isolation is not a huge concern. The tests are mostly so that humans can do sanity checking. | 15:33 |
| cdent | But I'm struggling a bit to get the semantics I want because I'm not particular familiar with unittest/testtools/testrespository | 15:33 |
| cdent | I come from the land of py.test where things are much different. | 15:33 |
| * cdent wants to go back! ;) | 15:34 | |
| cdent | I was hoping, apparnetly naively, that I could avoid having too many additional dependencies beyond unittest itself. | 15:34 |
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| clarkb | you can if you write the tests as isolated units | 15:35 |
| clarkb | that just works | 15:35 |
| cdent | Not if its not what I want :) | 15:35 |
| cdent | I want to be able to create tests cases that have long-ish readable lists of each test | 15:36 |
| cdent | and for each test to represent a specific set of assertions | 15:36 |
| cdent | I want to be able to run them against a running that will verbosely tell me as each test is being run what the name is | 15:37 |
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| cdent | I'm trying to optimize here for a human running the tests, not a computer (with a human evaluating after the fact). | 15:37 |
| clarkb | me too :) test isolation is super important for both | 15:37 |
| cdent | It's pretty clear that I'm going to have to give up on a lot of that goal if I want to integrate with existing standard. | 15:37 |
| clarkb | and no you shouldnt have to give up on it. | 15:38 |
| cdent | Can you expand on why? | 15:38 |
| cdent | why of isolation I mean | 15:38 |
| clarkb | but unittest is unable to do it for you on its own | 15:38 |
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| cdent | I know that with actual unit tests, in the formal sense, isolation is very important | 15:39 |
| clarkb | because I as a human can only manage so much state on my internal stack. this means breaking tests into discrete isolated chunks that clearly model dependencies so that I can reason about it | 15:39 |
| cdent | But I'm not trying to do that kind of test, so I'm curious | 15:39 |
| clarkb | if I want to figure out assertionX in test test_X I shouldnt need to do the same for 30 other tests that must come first | 15:40 |
| cdent | That's intersting because to me, I, as a human, want to be able to inspect a test without having to be aware of the all the setup and teardown that it, in isolation, has had to do | 15:40 |
| clarkb | thats all overhead that makes debugging difficult | 15:40 |
| cdent | exactly: for this specific use case I want a test to _only_ do what it says it is going to do | 15:40 |
| cdent | not the 30 setup steps that are required to isolate it | 15:41 |
| cdent | rather I want to say: this suite tests this set of things | 15:41 |
| clarkb | yup and that is conpletely doable | 15:42 |
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| cdent | Sounds like perhaps we are talking at cross purposes | 15:42 |
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| cdent | Basically I want to be able to guarantee two things when running a particular suite: | 15:43 |
| cdent | test_foo_bar comes before test_baz_zoom and both run only once | 15:44 |
| clarkb | but the first guarantee is really "ensure test runs with its dependencies" | 15:45 |
| clarkb | that does not require specific tests run in any order | 15:45 |
| cdent | but if you "ensure test runs with its depdencies" do you also get "both run only once" | 15:45 |
| cdent | It sounds like you get: | 15:46 |
| cdent | run test_foo_bar | 15:46 |
| cdent | then run test_foo_bar again because it is a dependency of test test_baz_zoom, then run test_baz_zoom | 15:46 |
| cdent | maybe you can articulate that in a more optimized (non-repeating) fashion | 15:46 |
| cdent | but then you end up with test code that when you^wI look at it just makes me what to run screaming away back to nice simple py.test or nose | 15:47 |
| clarkb | so in the unittest case ^ is sort of what you get | 15:47 |
| clarkb | but if you use testresources you can ensure the run once guarantee too | 15:47 |
| cdent | Okay, I guess, as I said, I'll have to dig deeper in testresources. | 15:48 |
| cdent | But now I need to walk before it gets dark | 15:48 |
| cdent | thanks for your input, it is very helpful, despite my crankiness about the testing tools | 15:49 |
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| cdent | meh, nope, missed the chance, meeting in a few minutes | 15:52 |
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| openstackrecheck | openstack/nova change: https://review.openstack.org/125974 failed because of: gate-tempest-dsvm-full: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1373513 | 16:11 |
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| openstackrecheck | openstack/nova change: https://review.openstack.org/114529 failed because of: gate-nova-docs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1338742, gate-nova-pep8: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1338742, gate-nova-python27: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1338742, gate-tempest-dsvm-full: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1338742, gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1338742, gate- | 16:49 |
| openstackrecheck | tempest-dsvm-neutron-heat-slow: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1338742, gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-large-ops: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1338742, gate-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1338742 | 16:49 |
| morganfainberg | mtreinish, jogo, how soon do i need to push the "change the default" stuff? | 16:51 |
| morganfainberg | might be easier once i'm in paris (since i leave tomorrow) | 16:51 |
| morganfainberg | i can try and get it in today but no guarantees | 16:51 |
| jogo | morganfainberg: I don't think there is a huge rush | 16:51 |
| morganfainberg | great | 16:51 |
| jogo | morganfainberg: I was thinking before K-1 | 16:51 |
| morganfainberg | ah easy | 16:52 |
| morganfainberg | cool | 16:52 |
| morganfainberg | will just plan for summit/post summit thne | 16:52 |
| jogo | clarkb: ^ bug 1338742 | 16:52 |
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| clarkb | jogo: yes debugging now | 16:53 |
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| jogo | clarkb: thanks | 16:57 |
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| openstackrecheck | openstack/nova change: https://review.openstack.org/120848 failed because of: gate-grenade-dsvm-partial-ncpu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1338742, gate-nova-docs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1338742, gate-nova-pep8: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1338742, gate-nova-python27: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1338742, gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-large-ops: | 17:13 |
| openstackrecheck | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1338742 | 17:13 |
| openstackrecheck | openstack/nova change: https://review.openstack.org/130563 failed because of: gate-tempest-dsvm-full: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1338742, gate-tempest-dsvm-large-ops: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1338742 | 17:14 |
| mtreinish | morganfainberg: yeah there really isn't any rush | 17:14 |
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| openstackrecheck | openstack/tempest-lib change: https://review.openstack.org/132036 failed because of: gate-grenade-dsvm-partial-ncpu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1338742, gate-grenade-dsvm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1338742, gate-tempest-dsvm-full: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1338742, gate-tempest-dsvm-large-ops: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1338742, gate-tempest-lib-docs: | 17:19 |
| openstackrecheck | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1338742, gate-tempest-lib-python27: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1338742, gate-tempest-lib-python34: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1338742 | 17:19 |
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| nikesh_vedams | hi | 17:45 |
| jroll | devstack folks, mind a quick review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131876/ ? | 17:45 |
| nikesh_vedams | did any one deployed devstack juno on rhel7 | 17:45 |
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| yfried | mtreinish: Will there be a meeting today? don't wanna stay up for nothing :)\ | 18:35 |
| sdague | sc68cal: can I get your pov on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87987 when yuo get a chance | 18:35 |
| yfried | sdague: ^? | 18:35 |
| mtreinish | yfried: I have one scheduled, but honestly I don't expect much to happen. I think most people are traveling | 18:35 |
| yfried | mtreinish: really? 4 days in advance? and here I am preparing an etherpad to present my case in mtg | 18:36 |
| yfried | mtreinish: are ppl coming to Paris by boats? camels? :) | 18:37 |
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| yfried | Lamas? | 18:37 |
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| sc68cal | sdague: looking | 18:39 |
| sdague | sc68cal: thanks | 18:40 |
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| sc68cal | sdague: -1'd it. he's changing stuff in the provider networking portion, and isn't even changing it to what I think the correct variable should be | 18:44 |
| sc68cal | it's not germane, and it's not correct | 18:44 |
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| sdague | ok, great, thank you | 18:46 |
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| yfried | mtreinish: could you please take a quick look and let me know if I should raise this issue in the mtg https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tempest_large_ops_with_network | 18:47 |
| yfried | mtreinish: or wait for the next one? | 18:48 |
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| mtreinish | yfried: I think that should probably wait until after summit, because I think we'll be talking about the home for the large ops tests there | 18:50 |
| yfried | mtreinish: do you have a session in mind? | 18:50 |
| yfried | mtreinish: as I will finally attend the summit... | 18:50 |
| mtreinish | The functional testing ones, or the tempest scope session | 18:51 |
| sc68cal | sdague: overall that review is such a moving target. The author needs to stop making all these changes | 18:53 |
| yfried | mtreinish: http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/575938e4837e8293615845582d7e3e7f#.VFKJSHV515Q ? | 18:54 |
| sdague | sc68cal: yeh, it's big and been reved so long I feel blind every time I try to look at it | 18:54 |
| sc68cal | yeah and I totally missed that he started changing stuff in the provider networking section after patchset 40 | 18:54 |
| yfried | mtreinish: and this http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/9dbde26cced67b54d24176b746d3027e#.VFKJb3V515Q ? | 18:54 |
| sc68cal | patchset exhaustion | 18:54 |
| sdague | sc68cal: do you have any outstanding patches here that fix things? I'm still in getting caught up mode after paternity leave | 18:55 |
| mtreinish | yfried: yes, also probably the nova functional testing one | 18:55 |
| sc68cal | sdague: the big one is just that Neutron documentation rst review | 18:55 |
| sdague | ok, yep, I think I've got a +2 on that one unless you reved it again | 18:56 |
| yfried | mtreinish: well, my point is to have this test network as well and make this a proper integration test | 18:56 |
| sc68cal | nope, no revs - with a +2 figure try and get it in, I think there's one or two little nits but I figured just do another patch on top of it later | 18:56 |
| sdague | yep, I'll poke dtroyer when I see him if no one notices it and pushes it through before then | 18:57 |
| sdague | also, thanks much for all the docs work here, greatly appreciated | 18:57 |
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| sc68cal | I have a patch checking FIXED_RANGE_V6 before use, but I might change it to use one of the variables that 87987 introduces, if that lands | 18:58 |
| sc68cal | it's like 3 lines, pretty trivial | 18:58 |
| sc68cal | so the big thing is docs I think. :) | 18:58 |
| sc68cal | sdague: congrats by the way, boy or girl? | 18:59 |
| sdague | girl | 18:59 |
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| sdague | https://dague.net/2014/10/19/our-daughter-arwen/ | 18:59 |
| sc68cal | great name | 18:59 |
| sdague | :) | 19:00 |
| lifeless | morning | 19:02 |
| lifeless | cdent: http://testrepository.readthedocs.org/en/latest/MANUAL.html#grouping-tests | 19:03 |
| cdent | lifeless: yeah, I've seen that, thanks | 19:03 |
| cdent | I think I've made progress clarkb's ideas about testresources too | 19:04 |
| cdent | just confirming it now | 19:04 |
| * cdent has very melted brain | 19:04 | |
| cdent | yeah, looks I'm getting what I want | 19:05 |
| cdent | thanks for putting up with me moaning earlier clarkb | 19:05 |
| cdent | well, almost there: the optimising isn't quite happening | 19:05 |
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| openstackrecheck | openstack/nova change: https://review.openstack.org/120848 failed gate-devstack-dsvm-cells in the gate queue with an unrecognized error | 19:47 |
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| nikesh_vedams | did any one install devstack juno on rhel7 | 20:05 |
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| mtreinish | jogo: any thoughts on this changed time reporting output for the summary? http://logs.openstack.org/18/129418/3/check/check-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full/f43f9b5/console.html#_2014-10-30_20_50_32_186 | 21:39 |
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| jogo | mtreinish: turning that into 'human readable' would be nice | 21:40 |
| jogo | so minutes etc | 21:40 |
| jogo | mtreinish: what do you have in mind? | 21:40 |
| mtreinish | jogo: sure I can break it up into mins secs | 21:41 |
| mtreinish | jogo: it's more the elapsed time vs the run time | 21:41 |
| mtreinish | right now it's only the total execute time which is confusing I think | 21:41 |
| jogo | mtreinish: yeah very | 21:41 |
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| mtreinish | I was more wondering about the wording for the total execute time or whether we should just drop it | 21:42 |
| mtreinish | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129418/ | 21:42 |
| jogo | just drop it | 21:42 |
| jogo | mtreinish: not sure what good it does to have | 21:43 |
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| mtreinish | yeah I'm not sure either. I think maybe to track total speed of all the tests regardless of how they get split up, but that's not really useful in the general case | 21:46 |
| jogo | mtreinish: yeah | 21:47 |
| mtreinish | jogo: I'll respin the patch to make it an optional output which defaults off I guess just in case someone wants it | 21:51 |
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| jogo | mtreinish: sounds good to me | 21:53 |
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