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openstackgerrit | Steve Martinelli proposed openstack/releases: release python-openstackclient 1.9.0 https://review.openstack.org/246048 | 00:19 |
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dhellmann | stevemar_ : looks like a bug in oslosphinx | 01:05 |
dhellmann | dims : ^^ patch coming for https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslosphinx/+bug/1516834 | 01:06 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1516834 in oslosphinx "html-context function should not return a dictionary" [Critical,New] - Assigned to Doug Hellmann (doug-hellmann) | 01:06 |
dims | dhellmann ack | 01:10 |
dhellmann | dims : if you approve the patch I can do a release tonight | 01:11 |
dims | dhellmann : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246065 - right? | 01:12 |
dhellmann | dims : yes | 01:12 |
dims | done dhellmann | 01:12 |
dims | +2 to do a release | 01:12 |
dhellmann | dims : ack, I'll watch for it to merge | 01:13 |
dims | dhellmann looks like the nova folks sorted out a unit test failure on their side. so far so good for this week | 01:13 |
dhellmann | dims : good | 01:14 |
dhellmann | dims : so we're not seeing this break other doc jobs? I'm a little surprised. | 01:14 |
stevemar_ | dhellmann: yeah, i thought that was weird. but i'm just the messenger :P | 01:18 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: oslosphinx 3.4.1 https://review.openstack.org/246075 | 01:31 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: oslosphinx 3.4.1 https://review.openstack.org/246075 | 01:45 |
dhellmann | stevemar_ : fixed | 01:46 |
stevemar_ | dhellmann: ty! | 01:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Steve Martinelli proposed openstack/releases: release python-openstackclient 1.9.0 https://review.openstack.org/246048 | 02:40 |
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stevemar_ | dhellmann: is there a reason the generated releasenotes are appearing in 'unreleased' and not 'liberty' for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246145/ ? cc bknudson_ (he was wondering too) | 12:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Erno Kuvaja proposed openstack/releases: Release of python-glanceclient 1.2.0 https://review.openstack.org/246373 | 13:07 |
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dhellmann | stevemar_ , bknudson_ : great question! that's why we have the unreleased page without the branch constraint. Because the liberty page scans origin/stable/liberty and your submitted patch isn't actually on that branch yet, it won't appear there. The unreleased page scans the "current" branch, which does include the patch under review. | 14:30 |
stevemar_ | dhellmann: ah, so once the patch is part of origin/stable/liberty, it'll be all good | 14:31 |
bknudson_ | it's in stable/liberty | 14:31 |
bknudson_ | can I tell it what branch to scan? | 14:32 |
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bknudson_ | maybe I should read the docs | 14:32 |
dhellmann | bknudson_ : the patch in that review is submitted to be merged into stable/liberty, but hasn't merged yet when the check job runs | 14:32 |
dhellmann | stevemar_ : yes | 14:32 |
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AJaeger | dhellmann: we have released openstack-doc-tools 0.32.0 yesterday and I wonder how to present that best. We used reno for it and it's published at http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/openstack-doc-tools/unreleased.html | 16:18 |
jroll | per the "dropping 2.6" conversation, should we be releasing a major bump of clients to signify this? (and also dropping the jobs) | 16:18 |
AJaeger | jroll: AFAIK yes - dhellmann and dims will have details | 16:18 |
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jroll | AJaeger: yeah, that was my guess, was hoping for details :) | 16:19 |
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dhellmann | AJaeger : for that project, maybe you want to move the contents of unreleased.html into index.html and just list all of the notes there, since you don't have branches? | 16:35 |
dhellmann | jroll : yes, major version bump to indicate dropping 2.6 support | 16:35 |
AJaeger | dhellmann: and how do I differentiate between what's in 0.32 and what was added afterwards? | 16:36 |
AJaeger | I would have expected some different headings - is that not implemented? | 16:36 |
dhellmann | AJaeger : reno will do that for you | 16:36 |
dhellmann | AJaeger : let me look at the git history there | 16:37 |
jroll | dhellmann: thanks | 16:37 |
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AJaeger | there are no new notes since 0.32, so no content is fine. But why is it named "0.32.0-1" ? | 16:39 |
dhellmann | AJaeger : that's not clear, I'll have to poke at it some | 16:39 |
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dhellmann | AJaeger : I suspect a parsing bug in reno's use of git describe | 16:42 |
AJaeger | dhellmann: I'll rename the file now. Thanks for looking into this. | 16:43 |
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AJaeger | dhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/246496 is the change | 16:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/releases: python-ironicclient 1.0.0 https://review.openstack.org/246511 | 17:16 |
jroll | ^ wip for now | 17:16 |
ttx | dhellmann: any idea why https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245963/1 fails ? The log points to some Jinja startswith error | 17:23 |
ttx | which looks unrelated to the patch | 17:24 |
ttx | maybe some side-effect of _independent | 17:27 |
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dhellmann | ttx: that was a bug in oslosphinx, we fixed it and released it again last night | 17:43 |
ttx | dhellmann: ah, so I should recheck | 17:52 |
ttx | oh you did | 17:52 |
ttx | thx | 17:52 |
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AJaeger | dhellmann, sdague: As discussed yesterday, I've created a docs consolidation spec, it's up for review now https://review.openstack.org/246550 | 18:47 |
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notmyname | for the assert tags, is it appropriate to propose assert:follows-standard-deprecation to a library project? | 19:00 |
notmyname | or are these specifically just for the service projects? | 19:00 |
notmyname | ttx: dhellmann: ^ | 19:00 |
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dhellmann | notmyname : I think we mostly intend them for services, but I don't see why we wouldn't apply them to libs, too | 19:03 |
notmyname | dhellmann: ok. thanks. I left it off of swiftclient so we can reason about one thing at a time https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246558/ | 19:04 |
dhellmann | notmyname : makes sense | 19:05 |
dhellmann | AJaeger : I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/reno/+bug/1517175 for the bug you found, and I think I have the fix worked out | 19:11 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1517175 in reno "notes attached to the wrong version" [Undecided,New] | 19:11 |
AJaeger | thanks, dhellmann | 19:12 |
sdague | AJaeger: thanks | 19:25 |
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notmyname | dhellmann: what happened with https://www.openstack.org/software/releases/liberty/components/swift? swift used to have a lot of SDKs listed. do you know why that would have dropped to zero? | 19:37 |
notmyname | maybe " Only SDKs updated within the release cycle are counted toward this tag." ? | 19:39 |
notmyname | that seems odd | 19:40 |
dhellmann | notmyname : that's a foundation thing, I'm not sure how they build that page | 19:40 |
ttx | notmyname: i can relay complaints about that site | 19:41 |
notmyname | ttx: I've got a few, but the SDK one is probably the only battle I'd choose to fight right now ;-) | 19:41 |
ttx | notmyname: about the assert:follows-standard-deprecation, I think we specifically mention that we will adapt it for libraries | 19:41 |
ttx | notmyname: send me an email and i'll broadcast it internally | 19:42 |
notmyname | ttx: oh ok. your email was specifically talking about services, so I kept it at that | 19:42 |
notmyname | ttx: ok. I'll work on an email | 19:42 |
ttx | notmyname: some of the rules do not really make sense. I know lifeless wanted to add specific details for libs | 19:42 |
ttx | so yeah, one step at a time. the most urgent are the services, since that's what's exposed in the project navigator and their current definition for maturity is pretty poor | 19:43 |
notmyname | yeah. "count of SDKs witha release during our cycle time" seems weird. and I'm not a fan of count of survey respondents as a metric of maturity | 19:45 |
notmyname | I'll start with the SDK count one | 19:45 |
lifeless | ttx: yah, I was hoping to draft that all up yesterday | 19:47 |
lifeless | ttx: but I ended up ratholing on a parsley bug preventing my mutual-left-recursive grammar from working :/ | 19:48 |
ttx | notmyname: also not a big fan of counting "adoption" as part of maturity :) | 19:48 |
ttx | lifeless: no urgency | 19:48 |
ttx | especially when adoption is measured in % of openstack deployments | 19:48 |
notmyname | right | 19:49 |
notmyname | the survey had abotu 140 swift clusters on it. meanwhile we (swiftstack) had about 1000 clusters (actually 2800 different rings) we did tests with and presented on during a design session | 19:49 |
notmyname | makes "only 68% of openstack users actually have swift" kinda frustrating ;-) | 19:50 |
notmyname | hmm..if I can get all of those clusters represented int eh survey, then maybe I can make the percentage of nova deployments drop below the maturity threshold ;-) | 19:51 |
ttx | sounds like a worthwhile goal | 19:52 |
notmyname | lol | 19:52 |
ttx | destroy all crazy metrics! | 19:52 |
notmyname | probably would elicit some very fast policy changes | 19:52 |
notmyname | I guess I'll save the rant on "look how many lines of code is in openstack!" for later | 19:52 |
ttx | the project navigator is better than what we had, but stil lneeds a lot of iteration to be more useful and accurate. So all feedback is welcome | 19:53 |
notmyname | yup. I do like the idea | 19:53 |
ttx | and since it's a bit of a black box currently, I'm happy to relay complaints and remarks | 19:53 |
notmyname | I'll work on some feedback. thanks for helping with the communication :-) | 19:53 |
ttx | np | 19:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/reno: add verbose and quiet options to command line for debugging https://review.openstack.org/246582 | 20:04 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/reno: force the right return type for mocked urandom https://review.openstack.org/246583 | 20:04 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/reno: scan all changes and filter on files in reno not git log https://review.openstack.org/246584 | 20:04 |
dhellmann | ttx, lifeless, AJaeger : for your review when you have time ^^ | 20:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/reno: scan all changes and filter on files in reno not git log https://review.openstack.org/246584 | 20:21 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/reno: add verbose and quiet options to command line for debugging https://review.openstack.org/246582 | 20:21 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/reno: force the right return type for mocked urandom https://review.openstack.org/246583 | 20:21 |
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ttx | I'll add it to my conference slacking todo list | 21:04 |
ttx | worst case scenario I'll gertty it for the train | 21:04 |
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dhellmann | ttx: ack | 21:10 |
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Jokke_ | ttx: will you be around tomorrow or would you have energy for quick question | 21:13 |
ttx | Jokke_: try me | 21:13 |
Jokke_ | I've been herding the Freezer kittens, they're under independent release model and setting up stable branches | 21:14 |
ttx | hah! yeah, we need to start chasing down the edge cases there | 21:15 |
Jokke_ | should freezer-stable-maint team follow the same rules as the managed release model | 21:15 |
ttx | they should probably be cycle-with-intermediary | 21:15 |
ttx | if they do stable branches | 21:16 |
Jokke_ | as in group owned by stable-maint-core and members approved by the tight vetting of "Have you really read and understood the policy and willing to follow it?" | 21:16 |
ttx | managed or not managed is a separate flag | 21:16 |
ttx | oh, you mean, stable-maint | 21:16 |
Jokke_ | yeah that firs, we can figure out their real modes later | 21:16 |
ttx | yeah, that's one of the things I'd expect the new stable team to discuss | 21:16 |
ttx | Jokke_: my take on it is that we should create a tag to replace "has-stable-branches" | 21:17 |
Jokke_ | I just intercepted the ptl adding all their cores to the stable-maint before I've clarified if same rules applies to them | 21:17 |
ttx | one that the stable team would grant to team following the policy | 21:17 |
ttx | teams | 21:17 |
ttx | so you would basically go in and check that they do the thigs right, and ten apply the tag | 21:17 |
ttx | then* | 21:17 |
Jokke_ | ttx: I'd like to see 2 tags replacing that and bit of approach difference | 21:17 |
Jokke_ | has-release-branch and maintains-stable-branch ;) | 21:18 |
ttx | well, has-release-vranch is useless, it's contained in cycle-with* | 21:18 |
ttx | if you use release:cycle* then you have a release branch | 21:18 |
ttx | if you don't then you shouldn't have one | 21:18 |
ttx | the only remaining unknown is if that stable branch follows policy or is just weird | 21:19 |
Jokke_ | ah that way, yeah, true | 21:19 |
ttx | currently it's a bit of a mess but I'll chase down the weird cases | 21:19 |
Jokke_ | yep ... as said I've been trying to teach guys to be house clean ;) | 21:19 |
ttx | so for the Freezer guys they should pick a release:cycle-with* model | 21:20 |
ttx | instead of independent | 21:20 |
ttx | since they follow the cycle :) | 21:20 |
Jokke_ | ok, I'll have a chat about that | 21:20 |
ttx | then yes, they can set up their stable branch in a way tha tfollows the stable policy | 21:20 |
ttx | with the stable-maint-core controlling it etc | 21:21 |
Jokke_ | sounds like a deal | 21:21 |
ttx | Jokke_: hope that helps. Will shut down now :) | 21:21 |
Jokke_ | thanks for your time, I'll have a chat with Fausto tomorrow and help him out | 21:21 |
Jokke_ | good night | 21:21 |
stevemar_ | dims_: poke for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245991/ | 21:35 |
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dims | stevemar_ : ah namespace collision | 21:57 |
dims | dhellmann : am picking up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245991/ | 21:58 |
stevemar_ | dims: thanks! | 21:59 |
stevemar_ | dims: fwiw, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246048/ is also ready to go | 21:59 |
stevemar_ | dims: oops gotta change the hash | 22:00 |
dims | 245991 or 246048? | 22:01 |
dims | for 245991 or 246048? | 22:01 |
dims | stevemar_ ^^ | 22:01 |
openstackgerrit | Steve Martinelli proposed openstack/releases: release python-openstackclient 1.9.0 https://review.openstack.org/246048 | 22:02 |
dims | gotcha | 22:02 |
stevemar_ | dims: yeah, the osc one, it was just waiting on the depends-on, it's good now. the zaqarclient has been ready for a while | 22:03 |
dims | stevemar_ : verified the output of http://logs.openstack.org/48/246048/3/check/gate-releases-tox-list-changes/dea9158/console.html? | 22:13 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: zaqarclient 0.3.0 https://review.openstack.org/245991 | 22:20 |
stevemar_ | dims: anything i should be looking for in that output? | 22:27 |
stevemar_ | looks like a good amount of changes are going in, that's expected | 22:27 |
dims | stevemar_ : already pushed it out :) just the list of things that you expected. | 22:27 |
stevemar_ | dims: cool | 22:28 |
stevemar_ | it's a small change, just want to get into the habit of doing it monthly | 22:28 |
stevemar_ | s/small/routine | 22:28 |
stevemar_ | no new crazy changes to auth or libraries, just new functionality | 22:29 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: release python-openstackclient 1.9.0 https://review.openstack.org/246048 | 22:30 |
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