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| openstackgerrit | Isaku Yamahata proposed openstack/releases: networking-odl: Release networking-odl newton/3.2.0 https://review.openstack.org/408335 | 01:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rob Cresswell proposed openstack/releases: Tag final release for Horizon stable/liberty https://review.openstack.org/408485 | 08:43 |
| robcresswell | tonyb: Just tagged final stable/liberty for Horizon, I dont know if thats still acceptable or not, I know the final call was a while back. Hadn't realised we needed a new tag, and I guess richard didnt either. | 08:44 |
| robcresswell | But someone was asking for a fix thats in upstream but unreleased :/ | 08:44 |
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| dims | ttx dhellmann : o/ | 11:44 |
| dims | picking up baton after a while | 11:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Release python-tripleoclient 5.6.0 https://review.openstack.org/406998 | 11:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: networking-odl: Release networking-odl newton/3.2.0 https://review.openstack.org/408335 | 11:53 |
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| robcresswell | dims: I put up a patch for a final Horizon Liberty release. I know the call was a while back, but I hadnt realise we needed another release until a deployer recently requested it. | 13:03 |
| robcresswell | dims: Completely understand if I've missed the timeline for that. | 13:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rob Cresswell proposed openstack/releases: Tag Horizon 9.1.1 (stable/mitaka) https://review.openstack.org/408609 | 13:12 |
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| dims | robcresswell : ack, will have to wait for stable team to sign off | 13:37 |
| dims | tonyb : ^^ PTAL | 13:37 |
| robcresswell | robcresswell: Thanks | 13:39 |
| robcresswell | ugh | 13:39 |
| robcresswell | I meant dims ^^ | 13:39 |
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| dims | :) | 13:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Release python-ironic-inspector-client 1.10.0 for Newton https://review.openstack.org/398401 | 14:04 |
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| dhellmann | dims, ttx: o/ | 14:34 |
| ttx | o/ | 14:35 |
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| dhellmann | dtantsur : trying to get you to fix your packaging is not an "abuse of my power" -- it's my actual job. | 15:44 |
| dtantsur | dhellmann, -1'ing unrelated things is | 15:44 |
| dtantsur | also we're not in agreement on your definition of "fix" | 15:45 |
| dhellmann | it's not unrelated. your dependency list is broken. | 15:45 |
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| dhellmann | and a -1 is not a -2 | 15:45 |
| dtantsur | oh c'mon | 15:45 |
| dtantsur | and who is going to approve a change with your -1? | 15:45 |
| dhellmann | you had 2 +2 votes on that release | 15:45 |
| dtantsur | this is not serious, let's get back to the actual issue | 15:46 |
| dhellmann | I take extreme offense at you telling me that doing my job is abusing you in some way. | 15:46 |
| dtantsur | you said "I won't approve your releases unless you change the way you do functional testing". this is abusing. | 15:47 |
| dtantsur | I'm fine with "fixing" the thing, even though I don't quite see it's broken. the problem is that your proposed "fix" essentially kills our functional testing. | 15:47 |
| dhellmann | No, it's telling you that your current configuration is broken, that as a release manager I wan you to fix it | 15:47 |
| dtantsur | it's not just "telling" | 15:48 |
| dtantsur | "I won't approve similar releases there." is not telling. it's a threat. | 15:49 |
| dtantsur | you've threatened that if our small team won't find a solution that both fits you personally and does not kill our functional testing, you will prevent us from releasing, essentially preventing development of our project. | 15:50 |
| dtantsur | am I wrong in this assessment? | 15:50 |
| dhellmann | Did tonyb not agree that what you're doing is incorrect? That there is a valid solution? So, no, it is not up to you to fit your solution to me "personally". | 15:51 |
| dtantsur | 1. you were the only one blocking the patch; 2. you were insisting on doing something I clearly referred to as not acceptable for the team | 15:53 |
| dtantsur | for comparison, the "lesser evil" Tony's suggestion was something we can discuss. and he was not blocking the release as soon as I bumped the version per his request. | 15:53 |
| dhellmann | neither did I block the release, after discussing it with him and jroll. In fact, if you look, it was released a few hours ago. | 15:54 |
| dhellmann | I have to go afk for a while. Perhaps you'll be better served by working with some of the other release managers. | 15:54 |
| dtantsur | how should I understand "you'll be better served by working with some of the other release managers"? Does it mean you're rejecting working with releases proposed by me? | 15:55 |
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| dims | dtantsur : i reviewed the full conversation in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398401/ I see nothing wrong in what Doug said in substance or phrasing. "abusing your power" is a very serious accusation. That did not happen here. I do believe you owe Doug an apology IMHO. | 16:11 |
| dtantsur | so, threating to stop our releases is normal? | 16:12 |
| dims | i am trying to give you a way forward to move on, please take it. | 16:12 |
| dtantsur | wow | 16:14 |
| dtantsur | ok, I've heard what I wanted to hear | 16:14 |
| dtantsur | dhellmann, I'd like to officially appologize to you for exceeding the limits in the language I used, and assuming thigs of you that apparently you didn't have in mind | 16:15 |
| dtantsur | jroll, dhellmann, now I formally resign from a release management for the bare metal team due to my disagreement with the applied policies | 16:15 |
| dtantsur | jroll, please kindly remove me from the wiki | 16:16 |
| * jroll acks, talks in private | 16:16 | |
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| jroll | dhellmann: tonyb: would love your ack on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408712/ related to this conversation | 16:42 |
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| dhellmann | jroll : looking | 17:39 |
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| dhellmann | well, this is certainly not the outcome I was looking for. Poor communication bites again. | 18:20 |
| dhellmann | dtantsur, I see you're no longer in channel, so I've apologized privately, but for the record here I'm sorry my distractedness and poor communication caused things to escalate. | 18:21 |
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| flwang | tonyb: ping re liberty-EOL | 20:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/releases: Tag final liberty releases for Glance https://review.openstack.org/407543 | 21:52 |
| mriedem | sigmavirus: rebased your glance liberty eol patch ^ | 21:53 |
| mriedem | updated the hash and added the cve to the glance highlights | 21:53 |
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