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| mriedem | diablo_rojo_phon: i'm reviewing those cinder / os-brick stable releases now | 13:33 |
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| mriedem | +1 on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/669767/ | 13:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/releases master: Add oslo.limit deliverable https://review.opendev.org/669914 | 13:42 |
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| mriedem | diablo_rojo_phon: evrardjp: wondering about the version on this cinder stein release https://review.opendev.org/#/c/669771/ | 13:44 |
| mriedem | there seems to be a new driver feature in that one | 13:44 |
| mriedem | jungleboyj: ^ | 13:44 |
| jungleboyj | mriedem: Hmmm. Let me take a look. | 13:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/releases master: Release os-brick 2.8.2 https://review.opendev.org/669767 | 13:48 |
| mriedem | i've rebased the os-brick stein release on top of the os-brick train release so they are sure to go in order | 13:49 |
| jungleboyj | mriedem: It does add an extra spec for the 3PAR driver but it is to solve a bug in their driver, so I didn't have an issue with backporting personally. | 13:51 |
| jungleboyj | The lack of a release note was definitely an oversight. | 13:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/releases master: Release os-brick 2.5.8 https://review.opendev.org/669765 | 13:51 |
| mriedem | i'm not really against the backport, | 13:52 |
| mriedem | the question is semver | 13:52 |
| mriedem | also, is that same extra spec used by any other driver? | 13:52 |
| mriedem | are the cinder extra specs documented anywhere? | 13:52 |
| mriedem | iow, how would a non-vendor user of that driver ever find out about this without tailing the git history? | 13:52 |
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| jungleboyj | mriedem: That is specific to 3par. | 13:54 |
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| jungleboyj | mriedem: Yeah, about the documentation ... that is something we need to improve. It is currently up to the vendors to document their extra specs. | 13:55 |
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| mriedem | jungleboyj: in their proprietary vendor docs? | 13:56 |
| mriedem | or somewhere in the cinder docs? | 13:56 |
| jungleboyj | We have discussed that this is something we need to improve. We are trying to do it by improving the way that the capabilities are reported to the end user. That is falling out into the Unicorn release though. | 13:56 |
| jungleboyj | mriedem: ideally it is in the Cinder docs. Some vendors do it in their own docs though. | 13:57 |
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| mriedem | ok looks like in this case it could be documented here https://docs.openstack.org/cinder/latest/configuration/block-storage/drivers/hpe-3par-driver.html since they list some other extra specs, | 13:59 |
| mriedem | that's really a bug for master (and stein at this point) - a docs bug | 13:59 |
| mriedem | the thing about the release is semver | 13:59 |
| mriedem | i'm not sure if it should be a patch or minor release | 13:59 |
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| jungleboyj | mriedem: Agreed. I can open a bug against them for that. | 14:00 |
| mriedem | does the extra spec really fix a bug bug or is it making volume snapshots work for the driver like that feature for other drivers, like lvm? | 14:00 |
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| mriedem | looks like maybe it's just some weird behavior specific to that driver? | 14:01 |
| mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1814027 | 14:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1814027 in Cinder "3PAR : Creation of volume from snapshot" [Undecided,Fix released] - Assigned to Raghavendra Tilay (raghavendrat) | 14:02 |
| mriedem | i.e. make the volume snapshot synchronous so that you can turnaround and boot a vm from the volume snapshot w/o nova timing out | 14:03 |
| mriedem | not really sure why that's an extra spec rather than a config option or just the only behavior.... | 14:03 |
| mriedem | seems like you'd have very erratic CI for that driver without it always being synchronous | 14:03 |
| jungleboyj | mriedem: How the snapshots are handled is specific to each vendor. Some create a diff from the original volume, some make a point in time copy, etc. | 14:06 |
| mriedem | sure but do the other drivers use extra specs to make that 'configurable'? | 14:06 |
| jungleboyj | Not that I am aware of. | 14:07 |
| mriedem | might be hard to tell with 100 or so drivers or whatever you guys have | 14:07 |
| jungleboyj | mriedem: Isn't so many as it used to be. :-) | 14:07 |
| mriedem | anyway, i'm conflating how that change was done with the release request which is probably wrong...just wondering if it should be a minor version but it's sounding like maybe that's unnecessary, | 14:08 |
| jungleboyj | So, here is my $0.02 this was handled as a bug for the 3par driver. It doesn't impact Cinder as a whole so doing a bump to 14.1.0 doesn't seem necessary, but if it is concerning to the release team I don't have a problem making the bump. | 14:08 |
| mriedem | jungleboyj: would you mind leaving a comment on the release request and then i'll ack? | 14:08 |
| mriedem | i think we've come to the same conclusion | 14:09 |
| jungleboyj | Sure. And you are right. We didn't handle this properly as far as documentation is concerned. | 14:09 |
| mriedem | also, i'm not on the release team - only guest hosting for tonyb while he's on vacation | 14:09 |
| mriedem | however, now that i have a taste of release team power i've become drunk with it | 14:10 |
| jungleboyj | We have been waffling between trying to push the vendors to do the right thing versus let them do their own thing. | 14:10 |
| jungleboyj | mriedem: I am not surprised by that. ;-) | 14:10 |
| mriedem | i can report the docs bug | 14:10 |
| jungleboyj | mriedem: Awesome. Thank you. | 14:10 |
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| evrardjp | mriedem: thanks for raising that, and handling the convo. I considered this as bug when reviewing, so didn't ask for x.1.0 instead. However, the fact you raised this makes me doubt of keeping the x.0.1. The justifications from Jay makes sense, and I think we can leave the release as x.0.1, so I am keeping my vote for now. | 14:35 |
| evrardjp | Let's see what tonyb thinks :) | 14:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible Stein https://review.opendev.org/666728 | 14:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible Stein https://review.opendev.org/666728 | 14:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/releases master: Release cinder 13.0.6 https://review.opendev.org/669770 | 14:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/releases master: Release cinder 12.0.8 https://review.opendev.org/669769 | 14:55 |
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| mriedem | evrardjp: i'm -1 on this cinder rocky release request b/c of that feature backport https://review.opendev.org/#/c/669770/ | 15:15 |
| evrardjp | thanks for confirming my opinion, removing my vote until the patch you're proposed merged and the sha is bumped then | 15:23 |
| evrardjp | s/removing/changing | 15:23 |
| mriedem | i'm not sure my revert will be approved, but it can wait for tonyb | 15:24 |
| evrardjp | mriedem: yeah but the project is claiming stable, and you're core in that, so your opinion matters. If the revert is not approved, then it makes me question the value of claiming said tag | 15:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible Stein RC4 https://review.opendev.org/670099 | 15:28 |
| mriedem | i know cinder drivers have some different policies which i won't claim to know the details of, so that's why i posted the revert to just move the discussion there | 15:28 |
| smcginnis | The perspective was it was a bug fix for the driver since the feature was already there in Cinder, the backing storage supports multiattach, and it just wasn't updated to report that in the query of the driver. | 15:29 |
| evrardjp | I am too new in this team to know the full context | 15:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible Stein https://review.opendev.org/666728 | 15:31 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | mriedem: I read it as a bug fix so I was fine with the version bump as is. If I misunderstood I am happy to change my vote. | 15:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Fix schema validation when providing target https://review.opendev.org/670108 | 15:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Raise YAML compliance to 1.2 https://review.opendev.org/669746 | 16:59 |
| openstackgerrit | guang-yee proposed openstack/releases master: Release openstacksdk 0.17.3 https://review.opendev.org/670136 | 17:10 |
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| mriedem | this nova queens release request has been sitting awhile with a +2 from ttx and other +1s https://review.opendev.org/#/c/669014/ including nova ptl and other nova stable cores (lyarwood), | 19:43 |
| mriedem | i'm out next week so it'd be nice if i could get this wrapped up before i go | 19:43 |
| mriedem | i know tony is out this week | 19:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Goutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/releases master: Release manila-tempest-plugin 0.3.0 https://review.opendev.org/670172 | 19:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Goutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/releases master: Release manila-tempest-plugin 0.3.0 https://review.opendev.org/670172 | 20:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack/releases master: Release python-keystoneclient 3.20.0 https://review.opendev.org/670187 | 20:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack/releases master: Release python-keystoneclient 3.20.0 https://review.opendev.org/670187 | 21:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release os-testr 1.1.0 https://review.opendev.org/669794 | 21:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: nova: release queens 17.0.11 https://review.opendev.org/669014 | 21:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Goutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/releases master: Release manila 8.0.1 off of stable/stein https://review.opendev.org/669755 | 22:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Goutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/releases master: Release manila 6.3.1 off of stable/queens https://review.opendev.org/670172 | 22:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Goutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/releases master: Release manila-tempest-plugin 0.3.0 https://review.opendev.org/670172 | 22:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Goutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/releases master: Release manila 6.3.1 off of stable/queens https://review.opendev.org/670210 | 22:47 |
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