Thursday, 2019-10-17

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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack/releases master: train: release and branch tripleo-common  https://review.opendev.org/68906702:42
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openstackgerritBrin Zhang proposed openstack/releases master: python-novaclient: release ussuri 16.0.0  https://review.opendev.org/68863803:33
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openstackgerritEyal proposed openstack/releases master: Release vitrage 5.0.1 for Train  https://review.opendev.org/68907706:07
openstackgerritEyal proposed openstack/releases master: Release vitrage 5.0.1 for Train  https://review.opendev.org/68907706:21
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Bug-fix releases for manila-ui  https://review.opendev.org/68904710:10
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Add pike-eol tags for kolla and kolla-ansible  https://review.opendev.org/68781610:10
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Openstacksdk Queens 0.11.4  https://review.opendev.org/68871310:10
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smcginnisttx: Did you take a look at that openstacksdk tag failure yet?11:33
smcginnisttx: Looks like it is due to https://opendev.org/openstack/openstacksdk/src/branch/stable/queens/.gitreview#L411:34
smcginnisNot sure what we can do now.11:34
smcginnisI think we need to actually revert that change since we won't be able to do another release without the validation complaining that there are two releases in one patch since the merged one didn't actually make it anywhere.11:35
smcginnisThen merge a patch to update the .gitreview file in stable/queens and redo the release with a hash including that update.11:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release vitrage 5.0.1 for Train  https://review.opendev.org/68907711:35
smcginnisAt least that's my working theory right now.11:35
smcginnisThough...11:38
smcginnisWe actually shouldn't have even done that release, so maybe just revert it?11:39
smcginnisOh wait, no. That's still in Maintained, not Extended Maintenance. Ignore that last part.11:39
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: train: release and branch tripleo-common  https://review.opendev.org/68906711:43
openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Revert "Openstacksdk Queens 0.11.4"  https://review.opendev.org/68913211:45
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* ttx looks12:16
ttxyeah, revert seems like te easiest since it never happened really12:18
ttxfeel free to +2a it12:19
ttxsmcginnis: ^12:19
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smcginnisBack. On its way.12:43
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Revert "Openstacksdk Queens 0.11.4"  https://review.opendev.org/68913212:53
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smcginnisLatest zuul failure appears to be the release-post of that revert. So I think it is safe to ignore.13:13
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ttxheh yes14:22
ttxhmm, it's still listed on https://releases.openstack.org/queens/index.html#openstacksdk14:22
ttxprobably sue to that fail14:23
ttxdue*14:23
smcginnisYeah, I think that failure prevented the publish-docs job from running.14:24
smcginnisI think we're ok. The next merge will take care of it. And hopefully we will have a new release of that very soon.14:25
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/releases master: Release ovsdbapp 0.18.0  https://review.opendev.org/68684514:56
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smcginnis#startmeeting releaseteam16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Oct 17 16:00:24 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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smcginnisPing - ttx dhellmann diablo_rojo hberaud evrardjp armstrong tonyb16:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam'16:00
ttxo/16:00
hberaudo/16:00
fungiall aboard!16:00
smcginnisProbably a small group of us this week, but we can wait a bit in case anyone else joins.16:00
smcginnis#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/train-relmgt-tracking Agenda16:01
smcginnisOK...16:01
smcginnis#topic Postmortem analysis16:01
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ttxanythign that we should fix before next round?16:02
smcginnis🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂16:02
fungiyesterday went really smoothly, for what that's worth ;)16:02
smcginnisYeah, I think things went pretty well overall.16:02
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smcginnisNothing major I can think of that we need to fix.16:02
ttxok moving on then16:04
smcginnisIf anyone ever has any suggestions, feel free to make suggestions at any time.16:04
smcginnis#topic Queens extended maintenance transition16:05
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smcginnisAccording to our schedule, it looks like next Friday we are due to transition Queens to EM.16:05
smcginnisElod was great enough to send out a post to openstack-discuss to alert everyone of this.16:05
smcginnisLast call for getting any official releases out there.16:06
smcginnisWe've gotten one stable/queens release since then. We'll see if any others trickle through.16:06
openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/releases master: Release os-traits 1.1.0  https://review.opendev.org/68920616:07
smcginnisThe output from list_unreleased shows mostly non-functionality commits for most repos.16:07
smcginnisNot sure if there's much else to do or say related to that for now. I'm not planning on proposing any releases for teams with this.16:08
smcginnisThough I guess... should we?16:08
smcginnisWe've kind of set that precendence now.16:08
ttxhmm we did, but for the current cycle16:09
ttxFor stable, I don;t think it is our role16:09
smcginnisThat works for me.16:09
smcginnisI'm honestly a little worried about the number of things we've put on this group vs. the individual teams to get things done.16:09
ttxI think it's workable with good tooling16:10
ttxBut yes I would draw the line at release16:10
smcginnis#topic Ussuri tracking pad and ping list update16:11
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smcginnis#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ussuri-relmgt-tracking16:11
smcginnisToday's wraps up this etherpads usefulness and we now move on to the fresh new sparkly ussuri one.16:11
ttxyes jump16:11
ttxI copied the last lines16:11
smcginnisOne thing I wanted to point out there is I've cleared out the ping list. So if anyone likes getting those pings at meeting start, please readd your nick to the list on line 12.16:12
smcginnisWe should probably also review the Review Days.16:13
fungii've added a reminder there that i'm clear to push up the change to swap the release keys now16:13
smcginnisThough that might be too depressing. :]16:13
smcginnisfungi: Thanks!16:13
smcginnisI think for now we can keep the review days as is, but just speak up if you want to make any changes there.16:14
ttxsmcginnis: did you want to send a personal email to liaisons for Ussuri?16:14
smcginnisJust watching the etherpad. I agree ttx, we can likely skip a lot of those emails.16:14
ttxThe "please pay attention to [release] on openstack-discuss" email16:14
smcginnisI should.16:15
smcginnisIt was a bit of a pain last time I did it with my email providers throttling me since it looked like I was sending out mass spam.16:15
ttxShould probably be sent early next week16:15
ttxOr we can make it the first countdown email16:15
ttxyour call16:15
smcginnisBut given how the last couple cycles came to a close with a couple teams seemingly clueless about where we were in the cycle and what the expectations were, I probably should try to avoid that.16:16
ttxI prefer to send all countdown emails to the list16:16
ttxbut don;t want to do email overload either16:16
smcginnisYes, countdowns I think still should go to the list. Just we had the item to reach out directly to PTLs and liaisons at the start of the cycle, and I stopped doing that.16:17
smcginnisNot sure if Tony did it for Train, but I'm guessing probably not.16:17
smcginnisOK, on to the task list...16:17
ttxWho takes the fixing missing things task?16:18
smcginnisSo, the "fixing missing..." stuff.16:18
smcginnisWhat do we want to do there?16:18
smcginnisOr maybe, who wants to take the action to figure out what to do there?16:18
ttxInvestigate why they show up, if they should show up etc16:18
ttxI can take it16:18
smcginnisThanks!16:18
smcginnisfungi: And the assumption is it is something you would do, but I'll put your nick on the signing key line item.16:19
fungithanks, yes it is16:19
smcginnisI guess I can take the queens EM transition one. Unless anyone else wants it.16:19
smcginnisI added some scripting to that last time, but I think I still need to address breaking it out into smaller chunks by team or something so it doesn't time out.16:20
smcginnisAnd ttx has signed up for the email content again. And again, thank you for that.16:20
smcginnisI think that's it.16:21
smcginnisWe've covered everything else in https://releases.openstack.org/reference/process.html#before-ptg-after-closing-previous-release16:21
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smcginnis#topic Next week's meeting16:22
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ttxAlright. Not sure we need a meeting next week16:22
ttxI think we can vet email content asynchronously16:22
smcginnisI agree.16:22
smcginnisEmail content and anything that pops up with Queens EM we can just discuss in channel as needed.16:22
ttxI don;t expect any task on the week after to review16:22
smcginnisHopefully a quiet couple of weeks.16:23
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ttxthat is the idea16:23
smcginnisThen the Summit16:23
smcginnis#topic Open Floor16:23
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smcginnisAnything else to discuss?16:24
ttxnothing from me16:24
ttxOh there is16:24
ttxthe Ironic thing16:24
smcginnisToo late! :P16:24
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smcginnisWhat's the Ironic thing?16:24
smcginnisOh!16:24
smcginnisYeah, we should discuss that.16:24
ttx"Ironic Train release can be broken due to entry in driver-requirements.txt"16:24
ttxI think we need to provide guidance on that thread16:25
fungii was curious about that. the indicated line is a >= isn't it?16:25
ttxbasically the driver-requirements spec for sushy is a bit too wide16:25
fungior did i misread? i probably misread16:25
ttx>=1.9.016:25
ttxwhile some drivers can be broken if not 2.0.0 is used16:26
ttxthat was my understanding16:26
smcginnisLooks like I've deleted my local copy already.16:26
smcginnis#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-October/010148.html16:26
fungiyeah, so if someone tries to install with an older version the driver requirements list claims to support, they'll be broken. however it's technically not wrong to say it requires versions >=1.9.0 in a literal sense16:26
ttxIt's more of a stable question, but in that circumstance I would be fine with a bump in driver-req16:27
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fungiit just happens to not work with some versions >=1.9.0 but the versions it does work with are allowed by that expression16:27
smcginnisSeems fair. But I wonder how that impacts distros.16:27
ttxfungi: yeah... it's a bit fuzzy territory16:27
fungiso it's not preventing a working installation16:28
fungiit just happens to provide inaccurate guidance16:28
smcginnisU-C caps it at 2.0.0 https://opendev.org/openstack/requirements/src/branch/stable/train/upper-constraints.txt#L43116:28
smcginnisMaybe better to have prometheanfire and/or other packagers respond to that?16:28
ttxyeah, I just did not want it to be ignored16:29
ttxI don't have a dog in that race16:29
smcginnisAs far as stable requirements goes, we can't really lower the upper-constraints.16:29
smcginnisBut yeah, the driver-requirements doesn't force things to be broken.16:29
smcginnisIt "works"16:30
smcginnisKind of along these same lines, I wonder about https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686845/16:30
smcginnisI wonder if it would have been better to keep that as a train release.16:31
smcginnisBut looks like this should work, then they just need to backport and do a bugfix release.16:31
smcginnisOK, I don't have anything else on this or other topics.16:32
ttxhmm maybe just post an answer asking for opinions from stable and requirements + saying that >=1.9.0 is not technically wrong16:32
smcginnisCan someone else respond since I've already deleted my local copy? :]16:33
ttxre: ovsdbapp, meh, whatever works for them :)16:33
smcginnisYeah16:33
ttxOh well, let's wait for prometheanfire to comment on it16:34
* ttx needs to run16:34
smcginnisWorks for me. ;)16:34
smcginnisI guess that's all anyway.16:35
smcginnisThanks everyone!16:35
smcginnis#endmeeting16:35
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fungithanks smcginnis!16:35
ttxthx smcginnis !16:35
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prometheanfirehi?16:42
smcginnisHey prometheanfire.16:42
smcginnisWanted to point out the Ironic mailing list thread related to a requirement.16:42
smcginnisWe thought maybe it would be good for you or at least someone that does packaging to respond to it.16:43
prometheanfireoh, the 2.1.0 not being compat with 2.0.0 (or minimum change I think for ironic)16:43
smcginnisDoesn't sound like it's a major breaking issue, just it is possible to deploy a broken config based on the combination or requirements and configuration.16:43
smcginnisHere's the thread - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-October/010148.html16:44
efriedHi folks, https://review.opendev.org/689206 (os-traits 1.1.0) ready to go any time. I could unblock placement without it, but would prefer one patch (https://review.opendev.org/#/c/689187/) to two.16:45
prometheanfirewe don't define minimums in reqs, so if a project wants to change it that's on them.  I'll say that as a packager I package the UC version16:45
smcginnis++16:46
smcginnisefried: OK, I'll get that through right away then.16:46
prometheanfirechanging the min after release is 'hard' I think, given release guidelines for the cycle and all16:46
efriedthanks smcginnis16:46
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release os-traits 1.1.0  https://review.opendev.org/68920616:58
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dhellmanncongratulations on the smooth release, folks!18:54
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openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Fix Train extended maintenance transition date  https://review.opendev.org/68925419:49
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smcginnismordred, dtroyer: Could y'all take a look at https://review.opendev.org/68913120:33
smcginnisWe need to redo that last release with this change so things don't go boom.20:33
openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Final Cinder team releases for stable/queens  https://review.opendev.org/68926320:48
mordredsmcginnis: +A20:50
smcginnismordred: Thanks!20:50
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/releases master: Release ovsdbapp 0.12.5  https://review.opendev.org/68926620:57
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/releases master: Release ovsdbapp 0.10.5  https://review.opendev.org/68926820:58
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