| opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/releases master: Release final oslo.privsep for 2025.2 Flamingo https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/957723 | 01:06 |
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| opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/releases master: Release oslo.cache for stable/2024.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/954481 | 01:20 |
| opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/releases master: Release oslo.config for stable/2024.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/954482 | 01:20 |
| opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/releases master: Release oslo.config for stable/2024.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/954482 | 01:21 |
| opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/releases master: Release oslo.cache for stable/2024.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/954481 | 01:21 |
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| opendevreview | Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release final neutron-lib for 2025.2 Flamingo https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/957704 | 09:00 |
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| opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/releases master: Release final oslo.cache for 2025.2 Flamingo https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/957714 | 11:51 |
| opendevreview | Brian Haley proposed openstack/releases master: Release neutron for stable/2024.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/954472 | 13:09 |
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| ttx | o/ | 14:01 |
| ttx | #startmeeting releaseteam | 14:01 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Fri Aug 22 14:01:33 2025 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 14:01 |
| ttx | Our agenda is down at: | 14:01 |
| ttx | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/flamingo-relmgt-tracking#L296 | 14:02 |
| ttx | Ping list: release-team elod | 14:02 |
| ttx | Anyone here for the release team meeting? | 14:03 |
| elodilles | o/ | 14:03 |
| ttx | Ah! | 14:03 |
| elodilles | hi, sorry, i'm here :] | 14:04 |
| ttx | Alright let's get started | 14:04 |
| ttx | #topic Review task completion | 14:04 |
| ttx | - Propose autoreleases for cycle-with-intermediary libraries (excluding client libraries) which had commits that have not been included in a release. (elod) | 14:04 |
| ttx | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:flamingo-final-non-client-libs | 14:04 |
| elodilles | i went through the open patches (without response from team :'( | 14:05 |
| elodilles | today morning, and reviewed them | 14:06 |
| ttx | Hmm, do you think I should approve them today, or wait next week? | 14:06 |
| elodilles | added procedural PTL-Approved+1 for them | 14:06 |
| ttx | it is a bit of a Friday | 14:06 |
| elodilles | ttx: both works for me | 14:06 |
| elodilles | won't you be traveling next week? :-o | 14:06 |
| ttx | OK I'll do a pass on them on Monday | 14:06 |
| ttx | I'm traveling with a laptop | 14:07 |
| ttx | - Send weekly email (ttx) | 14:07 |
| ttx | will do in a minute | 14:07 |
| frickler | late o/ | 14:07 |
| ttx | #topic Assign R-5 week tasks | 14:08 |
| ttx | ok all assigned I think | 14:09 |
| ttx | #topic Review weekly countdown email | 14:09 |
| ttx | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails | 14:09 |
| frickler | lgtm | 14:10 |
| ttx | alright will send shortly after meet | 14:10 |
| ttx | #topic Open Discussion | 14:11 |
| ttx | Wanted to discuss a bunch of old patches that sit in our review dashboard | 14:11 |
| ttx | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/952525 | 14:12 |
| ttx | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/952528 and https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/952529 | 14:13 |
| ttx | Those three are old 2023.2-last patches | 14:13 |
| elodilles | yepp | 14:13 |
| elodilles | i think these should have been merged already ages ago :/ | 14:13 |
| elodilles | https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:2023-2-last+is:open | 14:14 |
| elodilles | but never got response from teams that they are OK with this | 14:14 |
| elodilles | there's no deadline in the patches though | 14:14 |
| ttx | OK how about we reply setting a deadline | 14:15 |
| ttx | (and recheck the -1 one) | 14:15 |
| elodilles | sounds OK to me | 14:15 |
| ttx | I'll do that after meet | 14:15 |
| ttx | unless someone beats me to it | 14:15 |
| ttx | then: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/952201 | 14:16 |
| frickler | what would happen if we just abandon them? who would care? | 14:16 |
| ttx | the 2023.2 ones? | 14:16 |
| ttx | I think we need the tag in for some reason | 14:16 |
| ttx | (to prep for branch removal ?_ | 14:16 |
| ttx | The Mistral release one is missing PTL+1 | 14:17 |
| elodilles | frickler: as far as i understand those patches are needed (explained by gmaan in the past) | 14:17 |
| frickler | for mistral can try to mail the ptl or ping amorin (not here but maybe in opendev or so) | 14:18 |
| ttx | amorin approved them but has no ptl+1 right | 14:18 |
| frickler | but he is in the same company afaict | 14:18 |
| ttx | right | 14:18 |
| ttx | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/941290 | 14:19 |
| frickler | oh, wait amorin will be PTL next cycle, too | 14:19 |
| ttx | Still waiting on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/941138 | 14:19 |
| frickler | so maybe we can just accept his +1 | 14:19 |
| ttx | yeah... I would do that and unblock them | 14:20 |
| ttx | will add | 14:20 |
| elodilles | +1 | 14:20 |
| ttx | then one of you can +2a | 14:20 |
| frickler | for freezer need to remind noonedeadpunk of it | 14:20 |
| frickler | (which is hereby done ;) | 14:20 |
| frickler | (just for reference https://opendev.org/openstack/election/src/branch/master/candidates/2026.1/Mistral/arnaud.morin@gmail.com) | 14:22 |
| ttx | thanks | 14:22 |
| ttx | then we have a bunch of https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22caracal-stable%22+status:open patches stuck since mid-July | 14:22 |
| elodilles | these are convenience patches ^^^ | 14:22 |
| ttx | yeah I would drop them | 14:22 |
| elodilles | to prepare for caracal to move Unmaintained | 14:22 |
| elodilles | yes, probably we have waited enough | 14:23 |
| elodilles | let me abandon them | 14:23 |
| ttx | I'd rather have a clean deck before we enter final release period | 14:23 |
| elodilles | for the recored, there are a couple that just got PTL-Approved+1 | 14:23 |
| elodilles | so those can be merged | 14:23 |
| frickler | +1 to abandoning if no feedback | 14:24 |
| ttx | only 2 left: | 14:24 |
| ttx | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/943975 | 14:24 |
| ttx | been some time since we last heard of Kacper | 14:24 |
| ttx | We can abandon it, he can un-abandon it if he wants to work on it again | 14:24 |
| frickler | ack, hberaud also doesn't seem to be online | 14:25 |
| frickler | iirc it was a colleague of his? | 14:25 |
| ttx | yes | 14:25 |
| ttx | that leaves https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/948790 | 14:25 |
| frickler | s/it was/they were/ | 14:26 |
| ttx | for which nobody has a strong opinion, I guess | 14:26 |
| elodilles | well, i have the opinion documented there and frickler too o:) | 14:26 |
| frickler | ah, that one, yeah ... :-/ | 14:27 |
| ttx | Hey don;t look at me, I voted | 14:27 |
| elodilles | i don't think i will start the process right after the release, to be clear | 14:27 |
| ttx | elodilles: we established that release-core people can vote on their patches, given that there is only 3 active of us | 14:28 |
| frickler | let's make a compromise of two weeks instead of 4? ;) | 14:28 |
| frickler | not sure how that would overlap with the ptg though | 14:29 |
| elodilles | sorry, let me correct myself: i won't be start the transition process before 2025.2 Flamingo release <- this would be needed to be able to EOL at the time of release date | 14:29 |
| elodilles | so i'll start the process right after the Flamingo release anyway | 14:30 |
| elodilles | i just wanted to have the deadline more reasonable | 14:30 |
| frickler | oh, and we have a 4 week waiting period, right? | 14:30 |
| elodilles | frickler: well, 2-4 week, and usually teams realize at that time that they need a final release :S | 14:31 |
| elodilles | i agree that we should be more strict with the deadline though | 14:32 |
| ttx | elodilles: I think it makes sense | 14:32 |
| frickler | ptg is 27-31. so maybe if the set the deadline to the friday before, 2025-10-24? | 14:33 |
| elodilles | frickler: sounds a bit better than Flamingo date | 14:33 |
| elodilles | let me update the patch | 14:34 |
| * ttx waits | 14:35 | |
| opendevreview | Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Update 2024.1 Caracal's transition date https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/948790 | 14:36 |
| elodilles | sorry, had to add signature to be able to edit :S | 14:36 |
| elodilles | (old patch) | 14:36 |
| elodilles | * signed-off-by | 14:36 |
| frickler | commit message doesn't match completely any more, do you want to amend that, too? | 14:36 |
| elodilles | but there it is ^^^ | 14:36 |
| frickler | 3 instead of 4 weeks | 14:37 |
| opendevreview | Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Update 2024.1 Caracal's transition date https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/948790 | 14:37 |
| elodilles | there ^^^ | 14:37 |
| frickler | +2.5, thx | 14:38 |
| elodilles | thanks too | 14:38 |
| frickler | freezer p-c patch just got updated, too :) | 14:39 |
| ttx | alright we have a winner | 14:40 |
| ttx | That is all I had! | 14:40 |
| ttx | anything else before we end the meeting? | 14:40 |
| elodilles | just a reminder: these are also ready for a 2nd core review -> https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:caracal-stable+is:open | 14:41 |
| elodilles | rest are abandoned | 14:41 |
| elodilles | so the dashboard is a bit less messy now :) | 14:42 |
| elodilles | thanks ttx o/ | 14:42 |
| elodilles | nothing else from me | 14:42 |
| ttx | yeah I thought I would not approve stable/* patches on a Friday | 14:42 |
| fungi | speaking of travel, i'm on vacation all next week through wednesday the following week, so reach out in #opendev or #openstack-infra if you need something since i may be slow to respond directly until i get home | 14:42 |
| ttx | thanks fungi! enjoy the time off | 14:42 |
| fungi | will do my best | 14:42 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 14:42 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Fri Aug 22 14:42:54 2025 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:42 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/releaseteam/2025/releaseteam.2025-08-22-14.01.html | 14:42 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/releaseteam/2025/releaseteam.2025-08-22-14.01.txt | 14:42 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/releaseteam/2025/releaseteam.2025-08-22-14.01.log.html | 14:42 |
| ttx | Thanks everyone! | 14:43 |
| elodilles | fungi: thanks for the heads up and have a nice vacation! you deserve it! :) | 14:43 |
| fungi | thanks | 14:43 |
| fungi | ! | 14:43 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Update 2024.1 Caracal's transition date https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/948790 | 15:09 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Switch Freezer to use launchpad https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/941290 | 15:34 |
| frickler | elodilles: ttx: forgot to mention https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/958221 needed for elections to proceed | 15:57 |
| frickler | also https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/958225 is a bit late, but maybe still useful | 15:59 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Tag governance 0.19.0 for Aug 2025 elections https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/958221 | 16:21 |
| elodilles | release-team: just a heads up, that ironic team is about to retire 'metalsmith', but we still have it listed among Flamingo deliverables :S so probably next week we have to deal with that as soon as possible | 17:40 |
| gmaan | humm oslo.policy is released and as usual i missed the train to add something but never mind will do it nova and can move to oslo.policy in next release | 18:27 |
| JayF | elodilles: Do I need anything beyond this? I'm happy to do the legwork that's needed. Jay Faulkner proposed openstack/governance master: Retire metalsmith project from bare metal program https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/958297 | 18:33 |
| JayF | sorta thing that probably wouldn't be done last minute if I hadn't been out six weeks | 18:34 |
| JayF | ugh, we cut a release of it in this cycle :( I wish we hadn't done that. If possible we should unpublish that release; I'd be stunned if it was functional. | 18:41 |
| JayF | I was going to remove the empty deliverables file... but it wasn't empty, so I'm unsure how to continue. I'm really, really surprised our release liasons didn't -1 that patch. | 18:41 |
| opendevreview | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/releases master: [manila-tempest-plugin] Tag 2023.2-last https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/952525 | 19:09 |
| clarkb | unreleasing things on pypi should be done with care. Particularly if it works at all | 19:10 |
| clarkb | (if it doesn't work at all or is a security concern the math changes) | 19:10 |
| JayF | This is also intersecting with "nobody has used this to our knowledge since tripleo died" | 19:28 |
| JayF | so the question of how much it matters applies, too | 19:28 |
| JayF | I'm not even familiar enough with metalsmith to know how to trivially hello-world it. | 19:28 |
| JayF | I'm sure I could figure it out, but every hour I spend trying to see if that works is an hour I could be spending on projects that people /do/ care about | 19:29 |
| clarkb | in that case it probably doesn't hurt to just leave it and stop producing new releases | 20:01 |
| clarkb | I wouldn't go out of our eway to delete anything if we think no one is using it anyway | 20:01 |
| elodilles | JayF: i think the governance patch will do. that should be approved as soon as possible. i don't have a strong opinion about keeping or deleting metalsmith from Flamingo deliverables. (i don't know which is more confusing: whether we keep it in the list or delete it now that it was released) | 20:19 |
| JayF | like I said above, I think I'm overthinking it. I doubt anyone cares, and if they do, I suspect they git-care not pypi-care :D | 20:20 |
| elodilles | but based on what you say, probably it's not a big deal anyway | 20:20 |
| elodilles | and of course, it's better this came up now and not at release day o:) | 20:26 |
| JayF | yeah, I got back from my sabbat, saw the CI was failing, and suggested the retirement | 20:27 |
| elodilles | just in time then :) | 20:28 |
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