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| ttx | SlickNik: no, June 23, that was a typo. | 08:03 |
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| * ttx will rotate pages now | 08:03 | |
| SlickNik | ttx — okay thanks for the confirmation. | 08:04 |
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| * ttx sobs while fighting the incomplete Launchpad blueprint API | 12:36 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: Add adjust_blueprints.py script https://review.openstack.org/192686 | 14:04 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: that's my try at the blueprint adjustment tool ^. It's slow as hell since LP forces you to retrieve every single blueprint ever for that project and parse that | 14:08 |
| ttx | and then there are lots of false positive as some PTLs just mark very old BPs "implemented" | 14:08 |
| ttx | without setting the milestone | 14:08 |
| ttx | I'll check all of those so that we don't have too many to check next Tuesday | 14:09 |
| dhellmann | ttx: does the bp model include any date information about when the status was updated? | 14:34 |
| ttx | it does. I filter for stuff modifiued in the last 3 months | 14:34 |
| ttx | but you can't filter your search. You have to retrieve all and filter clientside | 14:34 |
| dhellmann | ttx: possible issue with heat and version change in openstack-dev | 14:38 |
| ttx | hmm | 14:39 |
| ttx | yeah, at the very least their usage of version number would need to be patched to support the jump back | 14:43 |
| ttx | good thing we started this early | 14:46 |
| ttx | but in my long experience there is always at least one project that completely misses the various warnings we fire | 14:47 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 14:48 |
| dhellmann | I'm glad skraynev raised the issue today. I was *just* about to start tagging. | 14:48 |
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| ttx | cleaning up the false positives -- it's not as bad as I thought | 15:03 |
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| dhellmann | flaper87: are you around? I want to test this tagging fix for server projects on zaqar if you have a few minutes to sit and watch with me in case I break you :-) | 15:26 |
| flaper87 | dhellmann: yes, here | 15:26 |
| flaper87 | dhellmann: go ahead and break everything | 15:26 |
| flaper87 | we'll blame ttx | 15:27 |
| dhellmann | flaper87: well, the goal is to *not* but as long as we have a scapegoate | 15:27 |
| dhellmann | tag pushed as 1.0.0a0 | 15:28 |
| dhellmann | and rechecked https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192416/1 | 15:29 |
| flaper87 | dhellmann: roger, I'll help keeping an eye on things. Let me know if I should do something | 15:33 |
| dhellmann | flaper87: cool. I'll be watching, too, but wanted to make sure you knew it was going on :-) | 15:39 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann: ping - in an hour you good to talk middleware (keystone) moving to the release model proposed? | 15:41 |
| morganfainberg | An hour or so* | 15:41 |
| dhellmann | morganfainberg: maybe a little later - that's hitting my lunch time | 15:42 |
| dhellmann | morganfainberg: 90 min? | 15:42 |
| morganfainberg | Ah sure. | 15:42 |
| dhellmann | flaper87: looks like things are working ok so far | 16:10 |
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| flaper87 | dhellmann: nice, good distracted. :P | 16:14 |
| * flaper87 would be a terrible watchman | 16:14 | |
| dhellmann | heh | 16:14 |
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| dhellmann | morganfainberg: let me know when you want to chat | 17:26 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann: going to need to delay I need food :( | 17:26 |
| morganfainberg | Sorry. Breakfast is late this morning. | 17:26 |
| dhellmann | morganfainberg: ok, I'm going to run to the store then, bbiab | 17:26 |
| dhellmann | morganfainberg: no worries, just trying to make sure I don't disappear on you :-) | 17:26 |
| dhellmann | ttx: since ironic is moving to intermediate releases, do we want to do the pre-version dance like the other projects or should we just switch to post-versioning when they're ready to tag 2.0.0? | 18:41 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann: back | 19:03 |
| dhellmann | morganfainberg: me, too! | 19:08 |
| morganfainberg | Yay | 19:08 |
| morganfainberg | So keystone middleware... | 19:09 |
| dhellmann | yes? | 19:10 |
| morganfainberg | It should be released I'm guessing with the milestones. | 19:11 |
| morganfainberg | But it should probably get moved over to the same management for releases as keystone or keystone client. | 19:11 |
| morganfainberg | I just wanted to know what if anything we needed to do. | 19:11 |
| dhellmann | I don't understand the relationship between the middleware and anything else. Are they tied together version-wise? | 19:11 |
| morganfainberg | Middleware has to run in-process of each of the services. | 19:12 |
| dhellmann | it seems like we should treat it like a library, and tag new releases as needed. No? | 19:12 |
| dhellmann | well, yes, but it has a stable API for that, right? | 19:12 |
| morganfainberg | So it is tied by requirements to the services. | 19:12 |
| dhellmann | sure | 19:12 |
| morganfainberg | It cannot diverge - it is also assumed the liberty version will only run with liberty services. | 19:13 |
| dhellmann | does version N+1 of the middleware not work when talking to version N of keystone? | 19:13 |
| morganfainberg | Middleware can talk to newer/older versions of keystone. | 19:13 |
| dhellmann | ok, but that requirement that we maintain the series-specific version is not different from any of the other libraries right now, is it? | 19:13 |
| morganfainberg | But we are looking at middleware as tied to the service it is running in. | 19:13 |
| morganfainberg | Correct. | 19:13 |
| dhellmann | all libraries run in-process for the server code that uses them, why do you see middleware as being different? | 19:14 |
| morganfainberg | I just was noticing everything else was being moved (Oslo etc) to the bew release model. | 19:14 |
| morganfainberg | New* with the acl changes. | 19:14 |
| dhellmann | ah, ok, did I miss that one? | 19:14 |
| morganfainberg | Wanted to make sure middleware wasn't missed. | 19:14 |
| morganfainberg | I think it was. | 19:14 |
| morganfainberg | And keystoneauth will move over once it is ready for use. But that can be handled when we are closer. | 19:15 |
| dhellmann | morganfainberg: the acl file has library-release for tags | 19:15 |
| morganfainberg | Anyway. That's all just making sure middleware wasn't excluded for any specific reason. | 19:15 |
| dhellmann | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/gerrit/acls/openstack/keystonemiddleware.config | 19:16 |
| dhellmann | keystoneauth does, too | 19:16 |
| dhellmann | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/gerrit/acls/openstack/keystoneauth.config | 19:16 |
| morganfainberg | Great | 19:16 |
| dhellmann | so I think we're set? | 19:16 |
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| dhellmann | now, we're still, I think, going to rely on you to tell us when to release those things | 19:16 |
| morganfainberg | As long as I am not prevented from releasing new ksa a few more times between now and it being ready it's ok. | 19:17 |
| morganfainberg | We might need to relax the ksa one | 19:17 |
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| dhellmann | you no longer have permission to do it, but the intent is to have a review on the version numbers, not to keep you from releasing | 19:17 |
| morganfainberg | The 0.xx is our test releases to make sure we catch all the changes needed. | 19:17 |
| dhellmann | I'm happy to tag releases for you whenever you like | 19:17 |
| morganfainberg | And it will be released probably 5-6 more times before we are ready. | 19:17 |
| morganfainberg | Minimum. | 19:18 |
| morganfainberg | I'm fine asking you. | 19:18 |
| morganfainberg | Just don't want to put extra load on you until t is ready to enter global-reqs | 19:18 |
| morganfainberg | Unless you don't mind ;) | 19:18 |
| * morganfainberg is trying to make release manager life not sucky. | 19:19 | |
| dhellmann | yeah, it really only takes 2 commands to do so it's not a big deal | 19:19 |
| morganfainberg | And minor delays on release aren't the end of world there so when you are awake it's fine too. (Won't be emergency releases of ksa) | 19:20 |
| dhellmann | cool | 19:20 |
| dhellmann | you can ping me here with the version # and SHA for now, until I get the release request repo set up | 19:20 |
| morganfainberg | Ok we're all good then. | 19:20 |
| morganfainberg | Yep. Will do. | 19:20 |
| dhellmann | ok, good -- you had me worried at first that there was something weird about the middleware that I wasn't getting :-) | 19:20 |
| morganfainberg | Nah I just missed seeing it get changed. | 19:21 |
| morganfainberg | Didn't want it left out. | 19:21 |
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| morganfainberg | dhellmann, ping - need a keystonemiddleware release (cc cinerama) | 21:12 |
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| morganfainberg | cinerama: which branch? | 21:12 |
| morganfainberg | cinerama: and are there open reviews that need to land first? | 21:13 |
| * morganfainberg is trying to get the info so dhellmann can easily do this for us | 21:13 | |
| cinerama | i'm looking at master - it would be nice to have 5690dc11dab11c563918c6bbd5684e5f32930324 | 21:13 |
| morganfainberg | ok so we're dealing with Liberty series not kilo | 21:14 |
| morganfainberg | ok | 21:14 |
| cinerama | morganfainberg: yup | 21:14 |
| dhellmann | I have 2d4e194 as master | 21:14 |
| dhellmann | "Ensure cache keys are a known/fixed length" | 21:14 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann we should be good to go with the latest SHA | 21:14 |
| dhellmann | ok, that has requirements changes so will be 1.7.0 | 21:14 |
| cinerama | cool | 21:15 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann since we're at the milestone timeline, i'm ok with this release being our ~L1 release of middleware | 21:15 |
| dhellmann | actually, with the 2.6 drop it should probably be 2.0 | 21:15 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann: hm. | 21:15 |
| morganfainberg | i would rather hold 2.0 for Keystone auth | 21:15 |
| dhellmann | http://paste.openstack.org/show/299454/ | 21:15 |
| morganfainberg | but... if we need to do 3.0 for keystoneauth i'm ok with that | 21:15 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann: i'll defer to your judgement there | 21:16 |
| dhellmann | yeah, that's what we'd do | 21:16 |
| morganfainberg | it just means we'll have a 2.0 and 3.0 this cycle | 21:16 |
| morganfainberg | which is a bit weird | 21:16 |
| dhellmann | that's ok | 21:16 |
| morganfainberg | but *shrug* | 21:16 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann: ok 2.0 it is. | 21:16 |
| dhellmann | morganfainberg: what's the launchpad project for that? | 21:17 |
| dhellmann | nm, found it | 21:17 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann hehe | 21:17 |
| dhellmann | morganfainberg, cinerama : are you prepared for me to do this right now, or do you want to wait for a time earlier in the day? | 21:17 |
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| morganfainberg | dhellmann: i am fine with it now. | 21:18 |
| cinerama | dhellmann: i'm cool | 21:18 |
| morganfainberg | both of us i think are west coast | 21:18 |
| dhellmann | tag created, launchpad milestone being updated now | 21:18 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann: my general rule is keystone release window is mon, tues, or wed | 21:18 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann so we don't ruin anyone's weekends/fridays too often | 21:18 |
| morganfainberg | mon, tues, wed (US) | 21:19 |
| dhellmann | morganfainberg: done and announcement sent | 21:19 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann: TYVM | 21:19 |
| morganfainberg | cinerama: i'll leave you to bump g-r where needed. | 21:19 |
| morganfainberg | cinerama: let me know if it is needed and 'll +1 the review | 21:19 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: it'd be good to get your insight on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173972/ as a fix for the requirements issues in kilo | 22:13 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: tagging is done except for glance (-2 on the patch from nikhil_k), heat (the deprecation issue, I'm expecting a patch tomorrow), and ironic (with intermediate releases, I think we want to drop the pre-versioning altogether there). Notes in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-initial-semver-values | 22:29 |
| nikhil_k | dhellmann: I am actually fine with the plan but double checking if I need to be more carefully reading the email | 22:45 |
| nikhil_k | dhellmann: you can expect a response or -2 removed this evening | 22:46 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: ^ | 22:46 |
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