Wednesday, 2015-09-23

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flaper87tonyb: yeah, it can be closed06:24
flaper87tonyb: I'll do it06:24
tonybflaper87: thanks.06:29
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ttxKiall: around?09:12
* ttx grabs coffee09:14
Kiallttx: heya09:40
Kiallhttps://launchpad.net/designate/+milestone/liberty-rc1 all bar 1 closed out.. last one isn't a ship stopper right now, as we cant reproduce.. But i trust the reporter enough to be inclined to believe there's an issue somewhere.09:41
KiallOh - actually, I moved that one out of rc1 until we get more info ;)09:41
Kiall(it was bug 1491981)09:41
openstackbug 1491981 in Designate "Using workers > 1 in mdns and the agent breaks the service " [Critical,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149198109:41
ttxKiall: I can, propose an open-mitaka commit for you to approgve when all is set09:41
ttxKiall: please approve https://review.openstack.org/226673 when ready. You can -2 it in the mean time to avoid accidental approvals.09:43
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Kiallttx: Will do, thanks!09:47
KiallWill wait till our IRC meet later today before +A'ing09:48
ttxsounds good09:48
ttxflaper87: cutting zaqar RC1 now, open-mitaka just merged09:54
flaper87ttx: ++10:09
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dims_ttx: can you please bless these requirements? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225993/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226182/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225363/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226514/10:26
dims_sdague: dhellmann ^^10:27
dims_lifeless: if you are around? ^^10:27
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases: Juno: Release python-ceilometerclient 1.0.15  https://review.openstack.org/22533910:41
dhellmanndims_: do we need to update the novaclient minimum version, too?11:35
ttxdims_: loking11:36
ttxyeah, I'd rather not touch the requirements.txt file at this stage11:37
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ttxdhellmann: one thing we forgot to do before cutting stable/liberty for services is to set is the specific ACLs for stable/liberty11:39
ttxNow proposed at https://review.openstack.org/22665911:40
dims_dhellmann: looks like python-novaclient has a upper constraints bump in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226182/ already, so we probably don't need the other review. good point about min version change, no one has asked for it other than lifeless and seems the older min is ok as well so we can abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225993/11:40
dhellmannttx: looking11:41
dhellmanndims_: don't abandon it -- we don't want that patch that changes the other libs at the same time11:41
dhellmanndims_: we need a patch that just updates novaclient's upper constraint11:41
ttxdhellmann: (background: for milestone-driven things, we don't want to push anything to stable/liberty pre-release unless we formally open a RC window11:41
dims_ah ok.11:41
ttxdhellmann: used to be controlled by specific ACLs for proposed/* but now we reuse stable/* for release branches11:42
ttxdhellmann: so we swap ACLs instead)11:42
dhellmannttx: if we're going to stop doing synchronized milestone periods for stable, do we still need to toggle the ACLs like this?11:43
dhellmanndifferent projects may want/need to accept patches at different times11:43
ttxdhellmann: it's a byproduct of the RC system11:43
dhellmannoh, right, this is before the release, so after the release we will undo this?11:44
ttxyes11:44
dhellmanngot it11:44
dhellmannttx: Andreas had some comments on some of the group names11:44
ttxI'm on those11:45
ttxupdated11:48
sdaguedhellmann: is gate-requirements-integration-dsvm-resolver supposed to be passing?11:51
dhellmannsdague: I'd have to ask lifeless, I'm not sure if all the pieces are there, yet11:59
ttxdhellmann: I think we can consider the "all client libs released and branched" step completed now ? Same for the related constraints bump ?12:19
ttxgordc: I can propose an open-mitaka commit for you to merge when all things are in for RC1, that will signal that I have to cut the liberty branch from the previous commit. You just have to -2 it to prevent accidental approval until you're ready12:29
gordcttx: sure that sounds good.12:29
gordcwe're waiting on one critical item right now: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226700/12:29
gordci'll probably just defer the other items i mentioned yesterday12:29
ttxgordc: please -2 in the mean time: https://review.openstack.org/22674812:30
gordcttx: is there a target date for rc1?12:30
ttxgordc: target date is sometimes this week, we can overflow to early next week if necessary12:30
ttxno point in hurrying it at this point12:30
gordcttx: ok great.12:30
ttxfix what you have to fix, better than opening ujp a RC2 tomorrow12:30
gordcttx: cool cool. so i just need to merge ^^ and ping you afterwards?12:31
ttxgordc: I'll get notified when it merges. Or you can ping me12:31
ttxbut no hurry.12:31
gordcttx: kk12:31
gordcthanks12:31
dhellmannttx: I'm not sure about the constraints, I need to catch up on open reviews (novaclient, for example)12:41
ttxok12:49
dhellmannttx: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/requirements+is:open+branch:master+file:%255Eupper-constraints.txt+NOT+label:Workflow-1+NOT+label:Code-Review-2,n,z12:51
ttxline 1:58 no viable alternative at character '%'12:51
dhellmannttx: it looks like we need os-brick, novaclient, and designateclient updated and we have jobs failing. I'll start digging12:51
dhellmannttx: http://bit.ly/1Qy4WEP12:52
ttxhmm same12:52
ttxfun12:52
dhellmannok, here's the query: project:openstack/requirements is:open branch:master file:^upper-constraints.txt NOT label:Workflow-1 NOT label:Code-Review-212:52
ttxheh12:53
ttxlooks like a Firefox issue, works well in Chroime12:54
ttxha, js12:54
dhellmannttx: all of the constraints changes are rebased/updated/rechecked12:57
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/release-tools: add a tool to compare the constraints file with existing releases  https://review.openstack.org/22523012:59
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/release-tools: Report all unreleased library changes  https://review.openstack.org/19122012:59
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/release-tools: add a consistent topic to all .gitreview updates  https://review.openstack.org/22601713:00
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/release-tools: remove duplicate function title  https://review.openstack.org/22601813:00
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/release-tools: provide a better error message when a team is not found  https://review.openstack.org/22605113:00
dhellmannttx: I'm considering removing gate-requirements-pypy -- it's non-voting and has been failing for a while13:01
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/release-tools: change Oslo to oslo  https://review.openstack.org/22605213:01
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/release-tools: handle unicode characters in commit messages  https://review.openstack.org/22651813:01
ttxdhellmann: ++13:01
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/release-tools: show the command used to build the release notes  https://review.openstack.org/22651913:01
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fungilifeless: tonyb: looking through https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-relmgt-stable-branch and https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranchRelease#Planned_stable.2Fjuno_releases_.2812_months.29 it appears we planned to tag 2014.2.4 and then eol stable/juno branches in early november, immediately post-summit14:09
ttxthingee: ping re: Cinder rc115:10
ttxSergeyLukjanov: ping re: your last FFE still showing in https://launchpad.net/sahara/+milestone/liberty-rc115:15
SergeyLukjanovttx, merged yesterday15:17
ttxSergeyLukjanov: ok, should I mark it implemented then ?15:17
SergeyLukjanovttx, I've already marked15:17
SergeyLukjanovttx, sorry, just woke up15:17
ttxok great! all FFEs are done now15:17
johnthetubaguyttx: hey, just wanted to reach out about RC1, I am thinking we can merge this one now: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226340/115:20
ttxjohnthetubaguy: do you want an open-mitaka commit to merge when you're all set ?15:21
johnthetubaguyttx: so thats that link15:21
ttxoh! thought that was the last bugfix15:22
johnthetubaguyttx: I think we have all the blockers merged now15:22
johnthetubaguydoes that look right?15:22
ttxyes15:22
ttx+1ed15:22
ttxedited the topic name so that I can find it :)15:23
johnthetubaguycool15:23
johnthetubaguyI will try get that merged now, thank you :)15:24
ttxI'll probably only pick it up tomorrow at this stage15:24
johnthetubaguyno problem15:25
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dhellmannttx, lifeless: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226514/ is ready to land to update the os-brick constraint15:33
dhellmannttx: lifeless : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225993/ is ready to land to update the novaclient constraint15:34
thingeettx: cinder is ready for rc115:35
ttxthingee: please review https://review.openstack.org/22685015:36
ttxdhellmann: +2ed15:36
thingeettx: +215:37
ttxthingee: I'll cut rc1 when that lands15:37
ttx(probably picking it up tomorrow). Once it lands Mitaka is unfrozen, for your successor pleasure15:37
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mesteryttx dhellmann: We're good to cut Neutron RC now.15:48
mesteryttx dhellmann: LP is in shape, everything is committed and implemented.15:48
* mestery straps in15:48
dhellmannmestery: \o/15:48
ttxmestery: let me propose the open-mitaka commit then15:48
mesteryack!15:48
ttxI'm 789 commits late on my copy of neutron repo :)15:49
mesteryttx: rofl :)15:49
ttxmestery: https://review.openstack.org/22686015:50
mesteryttx: Shall I merge that one then?15:50
ttxmestery: yes, that will bethe first mitaka commit. i'll cut the release branch from the previous in history15:51
mesteryttx: Into the queue it goes!15:52
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Kiallttx: Open Mitaka +A'd for designate - will land in ~30min17:30
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mesteryttx dhellmann: We forgot mitaka commits for fwaas, lbaas, and vpnaas. I have them here: https://review.openstack.org/226903 https://review.openstack.org/226904 https://review.openstack.org/22690618:01
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lhchengdhellmann: when you get the chance, can take a look at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225255/18:08
dhellmannlhcheng: it is exceptionally late in the cycle to be doing this :-(18:09
dhellmannttx: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225255 needs more than one vote18:09
lhchengdhellmann: sorry about that, the keystone feature landed a bit late, and the feature to land the django1.8 support landed late18:10
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lhchengdhellmann: we didn't had enough time to fix all the issue in the django1.8 support before rc118:11
lhchengdhellmann: appreciate the +2 on the patch18:11
dhellmannttx: I'm also starting a list of liaison responsibilities in the project-team-guide: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack%2Fproject-team-guide+is:open,n,z18:12
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Kiallttx: Designate RC1 ready to cut.18:19
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dhellmannlhcheng: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225255 has a validation error18:31
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lhchengdhellmann: oh uh, http://logs.openstack.org/55/225255/1/check/gate-requirements-tox-validate/c8f2444/console.html.gz#_2015-09-18_18_04_49_503 does this mean d-o-a 2.0.0 cannot be be found?18:35
dhellmannlhcheng: it means you have given conflicting instructions. The requirements range is >=2.0.0 but the constraints say ==1.4.0. I'm working on a fix, give me a second.18:35
lhchengdhellmann: appreciate the help18:36
dhellmannlhcheng: updated18:36
lhchengah it requires a rebase?18:37
lhchengdhellmann: the value in master is already: https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/upper-constraints.txt#L10118:37
dhellmannI had to edit upper-constraints.txt as well as global-requirements.txt18:37
dhellmannwell that's odd18:37
dhellmannok, I rebased it and resubmitted it18:38
lhchengdhellmann: great, let's see how it goes18:38
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lifelessfungi: ah thn the releases wiki page is stale as it doesn't list the 2.4 planned release19:29
fungilifeless: well, if it's perpetually broken and not reasonably fixable then we can likely start an ml discussion on declaring it officially abandoned19:31
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lifelessfungi: tonyb is running into the cliff repeatedly... really depends on his skin toughness ;)19:34
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tonyblifeless, fungi: It's not terrible I think there are 3 hardish issues left and then we'll have someting that's generally installable.21:32
tonyblifeless, fungi: I realise that this is a complex answer but what would be required to keep it around for a while?  It has impacts on the requirements, release, infra and stable-maint teams.  and I'm not on any of those (and probably don't have th street cred to be added).21:33
tonybfungi: I'd really like, the next tag to be generally installable regardless of the EOL discussion.21:34
lifelesstonyb: define a while ?21:34
tonyblifeless: until mitaka?21:34
fungitonyb: joining pretty much all of those teams requires no street cred, just a thick skin and the ability to forego sleep ;)21:36
tonybfungi: Well I have a realativly thik skin, and can survive on liittle sleep for a short while.21:36
fungifrom an infra and vmt (you missed that one in your list!) perspective we generally make an effort to support stable branches as long as they're continuing to work21:36
mesteryttx dhellmann: mitaka opening patches are in for neutron, neutron-[fwaas, lbaas, vpnaas], but due to this bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1499054) I think we may need to land that one and backport the fix before we release our RC121:37
openstackLaunchpad bug 1499054 in neutron "devstack VMs are not booting" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton)21:37
tonybfungi: Yes you're right I did miss VMT :(21:37
dhellmannmestery: ack, noted21:38
mesterydhellmann: I'll touch base with you or ttx early tomorrow morning, hopefully the fix lands in neutron master so we can cherry-pick it back21:38
mesterydhellmann: It would be handy to get the liberty branch created at least so we can handle the backport overnight21:38
tonybfungi: I guess open the discussion on the ml (and perhaps continue it in person in Tokyo).  I'm willign to keep working on it but I'm only one guy21:39
dhellmannmestery: if your mitaka version patches are in place, ttx should be able to create the branches (I would do it, but he's done the others and we didn't really talk about how so I want yours to be consistent)21:40
fungitonyb: i think it probably doesn't make sense for you to burn cycles supporting juno unless you're actually deriving some benefit from it. the idea there is that people who need/use a stable branch would collaborate on keeping it working21:40
mesterydhellmann: Ack, they shoudl be good to go, so I'll check back off and on tonight, overnight and tomorrow morning. Release time :)21:40
dhellmannmestery: tell me about it :-)21:40
fungitonyb: if you are, i recommend trying to find some additional interested parties to help you21:40
lifelesstonyb: until mitaka releases?21:40
mesterydhellmann: lol, I'm sure eveyrone owes you a beer or a hundred in Tokyo :)21:41
lifelesstonyb: so another 6 months? Can I ask why?21:41
tonyblifeless: Yeah so an extra ~6months That does make the 'when do we kill Kilo' discussion harder21:41
lifelesstonyb: so - why ?21:42
tonyblifeless: because, even with the work required to keep juno running, it would make life easier for me to have it around.21:44
lifelesstonyb: I presumed that,I'm just curious about why that is21:44
tonybI willingly note that that probably isn't a good enough reason but ...21:44
lifelessmy reason for asking is that it bears on my 'delete all the branches of everything except servers' discussion21:45
tonyblifeless: hmm okay I admit I haven't seen that discussion.  Peronsally I think it's all or nothing we either have the branches (and CI etc) or we don21:47
tonybt21:47
tonybI'm not sure keeping the server branches around buys much21:47
lifelesstonyb: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/branchless-clients-and-libs21:47
tonyblifeless: but I'v only been thinking about it 3mins ;P21:47
tonyblifeless: Ahh okay, I've read through that.21:47
tonyblifeless: not carfully enough it seems21:48
lifelesstonyb: I have a draft spec up too in openstack-specs21:50
lifelessdraft in that its WIP incomplete not 'ready for review'21:50
tonybfungi: I think if you open the discussion on the ML I'll weigh in and see what else happens.21:50
tonybfungi: All I can really do is ask and but my money (so to speak) where my mouth is21:50
fungitonyb: since i'm not the one proposing supporting juno longer than we agreed on at the last summit, i'm probably not a good person to initiate that thread on the ml21:52
fungialso i'd personally like to see it go away so that we can stop supporting python 2.621:53
tonybfungi: Okay, I'll propose it on the ML and see where the discussion goes.21:53
fungii'm okay supporting it through the 2014.2.4 point release in early november since we already basically agreed to do that, but am not going to campaign for lengthening it21:55
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jrollliberty isn't still referred to as 2015.2, right?22:06
jrollthis confused me, but I suspect the data on that wiki page is old http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/confused-about-the-openstack-release-cycle-check-out-this-handy-chart22:07
jrollcontext: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227029/1/doc/source/deploy/install-guide.rst22:07
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lifelessI very much want juno to die because of the 2.6 thing22:08
lifelessdiaf diaf diaf22:08
lifelessfungi: though we *still* have 2.6 on some jobs in master I believe22:08
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fungilifeless: those jobs in master, afaik, there solely for the benefit of juno branch things which relied on them continuing to work with 2.622:19
fungiso should be able to drop when juno reaches eol22:19
fungijroll: right, liberty is not any particular release number, least of all 2015.222:19
jrollfungi: yeah, I figured, thanks22:19
lifelessfungi: there is confusion in the communtiy22:21
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fungithere is always confusion in the community22:22
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lifelessfungi: :/22:31
lifelessfungi: its meant to be 'confusion to our enemies :)'22:31
fungii sow confusion at every opportunity, friend or foe22:39
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