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| atmark | Hi guys, I'm getting this error when I do 'shara cluster-list' | 06:06 |
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| atmark | ERROR: Failed to parse response from Sahara. Check if service catalog configured properly. | 06:06 |
| atmark | sahara* | 06:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vitaly Gridnev proposed openstack/sahara: Event log supported in new integration tests https://review.openstack.org/156956 | 08:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Vitaly Gridnev proposed openstack/sahara: Applying event log feature for CDH - part 3 https://review.openstack.org/158604 | 08:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vitaly Gridnev proposed openstack/sahara: Applying event log feature for CDH - part 3 https://review.openstack.org/158604 | 10:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Reshetnyak proposed openstack/sahara: Add validation in new integration tests https://review.openstack.org/151680 | 10:47 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | tellesnobrega, hey, do you have any updates on how storm edp is going? (I'm just checking blueprints status) | 10:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Reshetnyak proposed openstack/sahara: Add concurrency support in new integration tests https://review.openstack.org/151288 | 10:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vitaly Gridnev proposed openstack/sahara: Add ability to get step id from context https://review.openstack.org/158634 | 11:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Evgeny Sikachev proposed openstack/sahara: Add unit-tests for new integration tests https://review.openstack.org/155298 | 11:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Lukjanov proposed openstack/sahara: Remove never unused code (timed decorator) https://review.openstack.org/158649 | 11:34 |
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| tellesnobrega | SergeyLukjanov, i started implementing it, but i had some priorities changed (against my will) but i will get right back at it, this week or the next | 11:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Vitaly Gridnev proposed openstack/sahara: Event log supported in new integration tests https://review.openstack.org/156956 | 11:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Evgeny Sikachev proposed openstack/sahara: Add unit-tests for new integration tests https://review.openstack.org/155298 | 11:46 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | tellesnobrega, okay, that's awesome, thx for the update | 11:56 |
| tellesnobrega | SergeyLukjanov, no problem | 11:56 |
| tellesnobrega | SergeyLukjanov, I'm proposing a google summer of code project this year to make storm fine and completely usable | 11:57 |
| tellesnobrega | SergeyLukjanov, if i get accepted elmiko and eggaford have agreed to mentor me in the process. So hopefully i will have some dedicated time to work just on storm implementation, make it an awesome addition to sahara | 11:59 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tellesnobrega, cool! | 12:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Vitaly Gridnev proposed openstack/sahara: Add ability to get step id from context https://review.openstack.org/158634 | 12:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Vitaly Gridnev proposed openstack/sahara: Add ability to get step id from context https://review.openstack.org/158634 | 12:19 |
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| tellesnobrega | hey, what is the minimum flavor in sahara for spawning a hadoop 2.6.0 cluster? | 13:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Evgeny Sikachev proposed openstack/sahara: Add support of several scenario files in integration tests https://review.openstack.org/158710 | 14:44 |
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| crobertsrh | I can't seem to get my ci-recheck to fire for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157460/ | 14:55 |
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| elmiko | looks like the recheck from yesterday ran | 14:57 |
| elmiko | hmm, not the ci though. that's odd | 14:57 |
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| crobertsrh | Yeah, I noticed that | 15:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Denis Egorenko proposed stackforge/sahara-ci-config: Divide jobs log to different files https://review.openstack.org/158737 | 15:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Artem Osadchiy proposed openstack/sahara: Add bare images support for MapR plugin https://review.openstack.org/158139 | 15:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/sahara-specs: Allow placeholders in datasource URLs https://review.openstack.org/150640 | 16:19 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-saharaclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/155588 | 16:22 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/sahara: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/158759 | 16:22 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/sahara: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/158775 | 16:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/sahara: Add Flume support for MapR plugin https://review.openstack.org/148102 | 17:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Lukjanov proposed openstack/sahara: Add support for oslo_debug_helper to tox.ini https://review.openstack.org/158812 | 18:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrew Lazarev proposed openstack/sahara: Minor - Added missing check for 'Deleting' state https://review.openstack.org/155861 | 18:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Chad Roberts proposed openstack/sahara: Adding ability to edit cluster templates https://review.openstack.org/157460 | 19:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chad Roberts proposed openstack/sahara: Adding ability to edit cluster templates https://review.openstack.org/157460 | 19:26 |
| crobertsrh | tmckay: Not sure which mechanism for exception trapping in test cases is better. | 19:27 |
| elmiko | i don't think there is a "better", they both do the same thing. but provide some nice side benefits depending on what type of behavior you need. | 19:28 |
| crobertsrh | I kind of like the testtools version, but I'd live if we went the other way. | 19:28 |
| elmiko | assertRaises can be used the same way though | 19:29 |
| elmiko | https://docs.python.org/3/library/unittest.html | 19:29 |
| crobertsrh | I'm guessing that different places use the different approaches based mostly on who wrote the original test in each class. | 19:32 |
| crobertsrh | Hmm, maybe not...I'm seeing at least one case of the same person using different ways. | 19:33 |
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| elmiko | yea, i think people just use whatever they think of at the moment =) | 19:34 |
| crobertsrh | Well, there ya have it....Openstack hacking says "thou shalt not use assertRaises" | 19:34 |
| elmiko | i don't think that's what they are saying though | 19:35 |
| tmckay | just sent an email about stable branches and requirements changes from proposal bot | 19:35 |
| tmckay | not one of the covered cases on the stable wiki | 19:35 |
| crobertsrh | oh, that's just for broad "Exception | 19:35 |
| elmiko | crobertsrh: yea... that's the real point | 19:35 |
| tmckay | can't find paper on requirements changes to stable branches | 19:35 |
| elmiko | you can do the same thing with assertRaises that we are doing with testtools | 19:35 |
| crobertsrh | Yeah, as long as we don't do "Exception"....we are probably fine | 19:35 |
| elmiko | right | 19:36 |
| elmiko | i don't think it really matters, people should just use what they are comfortable with | 19:37 |
| elmiko | i do see how the "with self.assertRaises..." can be really useful if you need to do more inside the context or need to examine the exception | 19:37 |
| elmiko | but we don't really use it like that, so, no harm no foul imo | 19:38 |
| crobertsrh | move along, nothing to see here | 19:38 |
| elmiko | lol | 19:40 |
| elmiko | it's a good question, but it seems the only answer is that we become more educated about the different usages | 19:41 |
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| elmiko | tmckay: good question, re: stable and proposal bot | 19:43 |
| tmckay | elmiko, yeah, I mean, who wrote that thing? What rules does it follow? Why should I believe it? :) | 19:47 |
| tmckay | bumping requirement for stable branches seems weird to me | 19:47 |
| tmckay | how does that apply? New installs only? What about existing installs? They'll be running with the old stuff | 19:47 |
| tmckay | or is it about the gate? | 19:48 |
| elmiko | did you see you already got a response to that email? | 19:49 |
| tmckay | no :) | 19:50 |
| * tmckay lloks | 19:50 | |
| tmckay | awesome | 19:50 |
| tmckay | I didn't know there was a requirements stable branch | 19:52 |
| tmckay | I should take a closer look | 19:52 |
| elmiko | a whole new world =) | 19:52 |
| tmckay | I assumed the answer would be something like that, but there weren't a lot of words about it | 19:53 |
| tmckay | I forget that requirements is it's own project | 19:54 |
| tmckay | crobertsrh, on default templates, the ACL support for templates mentioned in the spec -- do you know the status of that? I don't see a spec for it (reviews or merged specs) | 20:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Vitaly Gridnev proposed openstack/sahara: Apply event-log feature for Vanilla plugins https://review.openstack.org/149972 | 20:15 |
| crobertsrh | Last I heard was the Sergey was going to be writing it up....I thought about it yesterday and meant to ping him. | 20:16 |
| crobertsrh | Without ACL stuff, we may need to get a bit creative | 20:16 |
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| tmckay | crobertsrh, hmm. I wonder if we can patch over it, for dev at least. The sahara admin user should be able to read anything from the db, it could ignore tenant | 20:19 |
| tmckay | just return everything for everyone assuming the default marker is on | 20:19 |
| crobertsrh | Yeah, that part is ok, but we need to cover edit/delete as well | 20:19 |
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| crobertsrh | need to figure out a way to not allow edit/delete of those default templates | 20:20 |
| tmckay | that's easy, if we have a marker field in the db | 20:20 |
| crobertsrh | Yeah, easy if we have it...harder if we dont | 20:20 |
| tmckay | write once, read many. You can't modify an old one, only upload a newer version | 20:21 |
| tmckay | and the old versions I suppose can be purged as soon as they are not referenced | 20:21 |
| tmckay | (that might be a little harder) | 20:21 |
| crobertsrh | Yeah, that may be a bit trickier | 20:21 |
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| tmckay | could be a special op on upload of a new default | 20:22 |
| tmckay | hmm, well, I guess you'd need a periodic task too | 20:22 |
| crobertsrh | Yeah, it would have to be part of the "updater" | 20:22 |
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| crobertsrh | Maybe we're making this too hard...let me peek at the spec again. | 20:23 |
| tmckay | so in summary, we've got a CLI that talks directly to the database | 20:23 |
| tmckay | hmm, seems like we probably want to extend at least the client API for this (but not the REST api) | 20:24 |
| crobertsrh | Yeah, the REST api might not be desirable | 20:25 |
| tmckay | I'll have to look at that more closely | 20:25 |
| tmckay | fingers in the db seems like a bad plan, likewise | 20:25 |
| tmckay | hmm, I don't think we have one, per se. all the client stuff (including that used by the integration tests) is ultimately built on REST | 20:29 |
| tmckay | I wonder what sahara-db-manage does ... | 20:29 |
| tmckay | it's got its own cli under sahara.db.migration. Okey doke. | 20:31 |
| * tmckay is thinking out loud for the ages | 20:31 | |
| crobertsrh | heh | 20:32 |
| crobertsrh | maybe SergeyLukjanov can update us on the status of the "ACL Spec"/Impl? | 20:33 |
| tmckay | ack. he may have something hidden away | 20:33 |
| crobertsrh | If we have that, things get slightly more sane. | 20:34 |
| tmckay | I think I need a CLI that ties into the conductor. I'll have to go poke around and find the right level. | 20:34 |
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| tmckay | crobertsrh, hmm, we have this possibility for a remote database but it's never been implemetned | 20:40 |
| crobertsrh | whaa?? | 20:40 |
| tmckay | that's what the conductor is all about | 20:40 |
| tmckay | but it's de facto all local | 20:41 |
| crobertsrh | You're thinking that this alternate db would be used for the default templates? | 20:41 |
| elmiko | is that different than the db specified with the connection string? | 20:41 |
| tmckay | well, theoretically *any* db op should be supported in a remote location. So all db stuff should go through the conductor | 20:41 |
| tmckay | elmiko, should be the same. But it does bring up the question, what happens if I point my Sahara at a database on another node. Does it work anyway? | 20:42 |
| tmckay | because sqlalchemy is smart | 20:42 |
| elmiko | yes it does, i've done it | 20:42 |
| elmiko | just change the connection string to a different location | 20:43 |
| tmckay | hmmm | 20:43 |
| crobertsrh | Yeah...I've done something similar before | 20:43 |
| tmckay | so I wonder what this conductor is really about | 20:43 |
| elmiko | i thought the conductor was to add a layer of abstraction between the api and the impl? | 20:43 |
| elmiko | what's that pattern called, mediator or some such | 20:44 |
| tmckay | but it has a local/remote possibility. so you can potentially have another process somewhere else handling db ops for you | 20:45 |
| elmiko | cool | 20:45 |
| tmckay | but, if sqlalchemy can already do that ... not sure I'm understanding the motivation | 20:45 |
| tmckay | maybe open discussion fodder for Thursday | 20:45 |
| elmiko | assuming it's an abstraction layer, i would think the point is to allow the api and impl to change freely without affecting each other. but maybe there is a history there that we are unaware of. | 20:46 |
| tmckay | right, well, you still have the abstraction. Because conductor has 2 classes, local api and remote api. Remote api is to date unimplemented | 20:47 |
| tmckay | just inherits from local and doesn't add anything | 20:47 |
| elmiko | interesting, maybe just leaving the door open for future improvement? | 20:47 |
| tmckay | the idea may have evolved away | 20:47 |
| elmiko | that too | 20:47 |
| tmckay | we've already got a distributed mode, and sqlalchemy handling remote dbs, the conductor adds ... ? It may be cool, I'm just not seeing it at the moment. | 20:48 |
| elmiko | i always assumed it was abstraction to reduce the entanglement of api and impl layers | 20:50 |
| crobertsrh | elmiko: That was what I figured was going on. | 20:50 |
| tmckay | conductor -> manager -> database | 20:51 |
| tmckay | you've got that either way. Here it is saying that manager can be local, or a separate process | 20:51 |
| tmckay | it's the separate process part that I'm wondering about | 20:51 |
| elmiko | ah | 20:52 |
| elmiko | sounds like a SergeyLukjanov question ;) | 20:52 |
| elmiko | or maybe alazarev knows too | 20:52 |
| tmckay | elmiko, I was just lamenting the fact that when this was added I don't think we were using the spec model | 20:52 |
| elmiko | yea, too bad | 20:52 |
| tmckay | so harder to find paper | 20:52 |
| tmckay | bp was ng-arch-conductor | 20:52 |
| alazarev | I don't know details | 20:53 |
| tmckay | elmiko, croberstrh, do you know how to find bps that are not open any longer? | 20:53 |
| elmiko | i like the result of git log on the conductor package, tmckay is the earliest commit in the current repo lol | 20:53 |
| alazarev | it is as now for a long time | 20:54 |
| tmckay | heh | 20:54 |
| elmiko | tmckay: maybe search on implemented bps? | 20:54 |
| tmckay | alazarev, ack, I wonder if the idea was superseded by distributed mode | 20:54 |
| elmiko | tmckay: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sahara/+specs?show=all shows all of them | 20:55 |
| alazarev | tmckay, yeap, to have ability to have single point of DB access | 20:55 |
| elmiko | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sahara/+spec/ng-arch-conductor | 20:55 |
| tmckay | elmiko, thanks | 20:55 |
| elmiko | tmckay: looks like need to ping dmitryme | 20:55 |
| tmckay | ooo, there is a full specification | 20:56 |
| tmckay | I thought I had seen that. I'll read | 20:56 |
| tmckay | elmiko, this came up because if I'm adding a CLI for default templates, what layer in Sahara should I tap into> | 20:56 |
| tmckay | I think maybe conductor | 20:56 |
| elmiko | tmckay: cli as in the "sahara" command? | 20:57 |
| tmckay | new tool | 20:57 |
| elmiko | ahh, k | 20:57 |
| tmckay | no REST api, just semi-direct db manipulation | 20:57 |
| tmckay | important to get it at the right level | 20:57 |
| elmiko | i would think conductor would make sense, take it at the same level that rest api calls use | 20:57 |
| tmckay | thanks for the help finding this, I read this once upon a time | 20:58 |
| alazarev | tmckay, will it be official tool? | 20:58 |
| tmckay | alazarev, yes, I think so. It's part of the default templates specification. Either run it as an admin, or hook it up to a cron job | 20:58 |
| * tmckay looks for spec | 20:58 | |
| tmckay | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141178/3/specs/kilo/default-templates.rst | 20:59 |
| tmckay | alazarev, so, similar to sahara-db-manage | 20:59 |
| elmiko | alazarev: while you are here, do you i think i should rewrite the improved-secret-storage spec to remove the swift replacement and just focus on creating the secrets module? | 20:59 |
| tmckay | the question is how to best connect to Sahara | 20:59 |
| tmckay | time to go, before the weather worsens again. bye | 21:00 |
| alazarev | tmckay, ack, I read spec, looks great | 21:00 |
| tmckay | alazarev, if you have ideas about how to tie cli into Sahara, please comment on the spec (or email or bp) | 21:00 |
| tmckay | just starting, I haven't done anything yet :) | 21:02 |
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| alazarev | elmiko, I think so, the first step could be identifying list of secrets, this is not only swift | 21:03 |
| elmiko | alazarev: agreed, it could take a long time to identify all the areas | 21:03 |
| alazarev | elmiko, but swift is a good point to start | 21:04 |
| elmiko | alazarev: i figure, once the module is implemented we could make bugs to address individual areas that need to use the secret store | 21:04 |
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| elmiko | alazarev: thanks for the opinion, i think i'll rewrite it | 21:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrew Lazarev proposed openstack/sahara: Minor - Added missing check for 'Deleting' state https://review.openstack.org/155861 | 21:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/sahara: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/158759 | 21:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael McCune proposed openstack/sahara-specs: Adding improved secret storage spec https://review.openstack.org/157432 | 22:02 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | hey folks | 22:17 |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, is your question answered? | 22:17 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: i think so, i rewrote the secret store spec to remove the swift stuff | 22:18 |
| SergeyLukjanov | cool! | 22:18 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: tmckay had some questions about the sahara.conductor package, but i think he may have found some answers | 22:19 |
| elmiko | once the secret store is in place, i'll open a bug to fix the swift stuff | 22:19 |
| elmiko | and then hopefully we can open more bugs as we find room for improvement | 22:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrew Lazarev proposed openstack/sahara: Implemented support of placeholders in datasource URLs https://review.openstack.org/158909 | 23:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrew Lazarev proposed openstack/sahara: Minor - changed name of argument in mirgation tests https://review.openstack.org/158911 | 23:03 |
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