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| tmcpeak | #openstack-meeting-alt <— meeting over here | 17:00 |
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| tmcpeak | bdpayne: jursey | 17:12 |
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| bdpayne | ugh | 17:13 |
| bdpayne | ok | 17:13 |
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| elmiko | that guy is slick ;) | 17:15 |
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| bdpayne | not as slick as me :-) | 17:16 |
| elmiko | hehe | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | haha | 17:16 |
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| elmiko | bdpayne: so, quick question | 17:59 |
| bdpayne | tmcpeak thanks for running a nice meeting | 17:59 |
| elmiko | https://mimccune.fedorapeople.org/data_processing.png | 17:59 |
| tmcpeak | bdpayne: sure, good stuff. I enjoy these weeklys | 17:59 |
| elmiko | does that seem ok as a starting point for a basic install? | 17:59 |
| * bdpayne looks | 18:00 | |
| bdpayne | elmiko this is a touch confusing to me | 18:01 |
| elmiko | ok, what's confusing? | 18:01 |
| bdpayne | you call out 4 separate "nodes"... I assume that those aren't instances? | 18:01 |
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| bdpayne | somehow I thought that this was a service to run on the cloud | 18:02 |
| bdpayne | but this diagram looks more like how you could layout a cloud | 18:02 |
| elmiko | hmm, maybe i missed the point then | 18:02 |
| elmiko | i was kinda following the swift diagram | 18:02 |
| elmiko | sahara is a service that needs to be attached to admin plane, i imagine there are several ways to configure it | 18:03 |
| bdpayne | ahh | 18:03 |
| bdpayne | I didn't realize that it needed to be on the control plane | 18:03 |
| bdpayne | hrm.. so why is that? | 18:03 |
| elmiko | sahara needs to communicate directly with, identity, orchestration, networking, compute, and object store | 18:04 |
| elmiko | i imagine you could place it whereever you like as long as it could reach those services | 18:04 |
| elmiko | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/sahara/_images/sahara-architecture.png | 18:05 |
| elmiko | that might give a more complete picture of how it fits into the openstack ecosystem | 18:05 |
| bdpayne | yeah, I like that | 18:05 |
| elmiko | i'm including that diagram as well | 18:05 |
| bdpayne | so, it feels a bit like Horizon in this sense | 18:05 |
| bdpayne | Horizon can be run in user space | 18:05 |
| bdpayne | "user space" == as an instance | 18:05 |
| bdpayne | so I would approach this like that | 18:06 |
| bdpayne | perhaps you have 1 or more sahara instances that manage the service | 18:06 |
| bdpayne | and then a variety of hadoop instances | 18:06 |
| bdpayne | etc | 18:06 |
| bdpayne | I think that for the most part, it's better security to run things in user space when you can | 18:07 |
| elmiko | ok, so sahara deployed into a cloud instance. that works too | 18:07 |
| bdpayne | cool | 18:07 |
| bdpayne | I'm much more comfortable make that recommendation | 18:08 |
| elmiko | i'll need to talk with the team to make sure there's not something i'm missing | 18:08 |
| bdpayne | ok | 18:08 |
| elmiko | so my next question is, how could i represent that in a diagram, or is it needed? | 18:08 |
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| elmiko | bdpayne: here's another one, if we (the sahara team) don't have a position on the best installation path, should i even get into a suggested deployment strategy? | 18:12 |
| bdpayne | well, I'd say yes | 18:13 |
| bdpayne | I mean, all the more reason | 18:14 |
| bdpayne | if you can't point people in the right direction, they will most likely take the wrong path | 18:14 |
| elmiko | ok, i'll try and push on the team to see if there's an opinion and if not i'll push forward with the recommendation to use a cloud instance | 18:14 |
| elmiko | good point | 18:15 |
| bdpayne | kk | 18:15 |
| bdpayne | I need to run | 18:15 |
| elmiko | so far, in the deployment section i've been trying to call out all the services that sahar will need access to | 18:15 |
| elmiko | k, take care | 18:15 |
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| singlethink | Does anyone have the link to today's meeting minutes? For some reason, I don't see them @ http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/ | 19:03 |
| singlethink | Ah... found them (meeting title was wonky): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ossg_weekly/2015/ossg_weekly.2015-02-05-17.02.html | 19:11 |
| tmcpeak | haha, oops | 19:17 |
| tmcpeak | my bad :) | 19:17 |
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| bdpayne | tmcpeak please see http://sourceforge.net/p/pypi/support-requests/466/ | 22:53 |
| bdpayne | (for good news) | 22:54 |
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| elmiko | bdpayne: nice! | 23:04 |
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| chair6 | *wooo* | 23:31 |
| chair6 | the name will survive.. nice | 23:31 |
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| tmcpeak | bdpayne: was this your pal? | 23:57 |
| bdpayne | yes | 23:58 |
| tmcpeak | bdpayne: you the man | 23:58 |
| bdpayne | thanks, I aim to please | 23:58 |
| tmcpeak | good stuff :) | 23:58 |
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