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| Shrews | mordred: should i be concerned that only *after* the concurrent.futures stuff merges do you get excited that it works in your tests? | 02:56 |
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| * Shrews writes it off as a delayed reaction ;) | 02:57 | |
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| ioggstream | hi@all | 08:41 |
| ioggstream | I'm fixing some shade stuff but I can't run all the functional testsuite on my openstack installation (it requires operation stuff) | 08:45 |
| ioggstream | is there a trystack or something where to run it (with operatorcloud) ? | 08:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Roberto Polli proposed openstack-infra/shade: Basic volume_type access https://review.openstack.org/414561 | 09:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Roberto Polli proposed openstack-infra/shade: Basic volume_type access https://review.openstack.org/414561 | 10:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Roberto Polli proposed openstack-infra/shade: Basic volume_type access https://review.openstack.org/414561 | 11:52 |
| clarkb | ioggstream: I think most people are using devstack for that? | 11:53 |
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| Shrews | most use devstack, but you can choose to run the functional tests against a different cloud if you wish by using certain SHADE_* env variables | 13:58 |
| Shrews | ioggstream: ^^^^ | 13:58 |
| Shrews | no guarantee it works | 13:58 |
| Shrews | SHADE_DEMO_CLOUD, SHADE_OPERATOR_CLOUD to point to the clouds.yaml entry, and SHADE_IMAGE, SHADE_FLAVOR for some of the tests needing an image or flavor | 13:59 |
| Shrews | it's a "use at your own risk" deal | 14:00 |
| ioggstream | Shrews: I can't run arbitrary tests outside my project. I'm installing devstack and check if that works | 14:31 |
| ioggstream | Shrews: and above all thank you very much for your review! | 14:32 |
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| Shrews | ioggstream: you're welcome. are you Roberto? | 14:40 |
| ioggstream | Shrews: yep | 14:40 |
| Shrews | ah. nice job on your first contribution | 14:40 |
| ioggstream | Shrews: I could do better, but I'm not a full-time dev | 14:41 |
| Shrews | heh, we can all do better, even us full-timers | 14:41 |
| ioggstream | Shrews: sure, I carve out this shade time from other projects (I use shade from ansible to provision stuff) | 14:42 |
| Shrews | neat! | 14:43 |
| Shrews | mordred: another ansible module user ^^^ | 14:43 |
| ioggstream | Shrews: I'll add further functionalities when these are merged (rbac neutron) & co. | 14:43 |
| ioggstream | Shrews: ansible rocks, it's really simple | 14:44 |
| ioggstream | and well, it's python :D | 14:44 |
| ioggstream | Shrews: I thought to present something shade at pycon.it or europython: will you join? | 14:44 |
| Shrews | ioggstream: doubtful, but mordred usually goes to those things. rcarrillocruz might, too | 14:45 |
| ioggstream | Shrews: I met rcarrillocruz last summer. Hope to see him this year, will be an europython-on-the-beach in Italy | 14:46 |
| Shrews | oooh | 14:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Dean Troyer proposed openstack/os-client-config: Add OpenTelekomCloud to the vendors https://review.openstack.org/412098 | 14:53 |
| morgan | mornin' | 14:57 |
| * morgan tries to get back on East coast schedule while living West coast timezones. | 14:58 | |
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| rcarrillocruz | ioggstream: oh, hey roberto | 15:53 |
| rcarrillocruz | good to see you getting involved :-) | 15:53 |
| rcarrillocruz | hoping you got your leg recovered ! | 15:53 |
| rcarrillocruz | and yeah, tell me MOAR about europython-on-the-beach | 15:53 |
| ioggstream | rcarrillocruz: hey | 15:53 |
| ioggstream | rcarrillocruz: now I can walk `nicely` but still I can' t run | 15:54 |
| rcarrillocruz | one step at a time, no pun intended :-) | 15:54 |
| ioggstream | rcarrillocruz: next month I will remove the metal thread tieing my knee | 15:54 |
| ioggstream | rcarrillocruz: LOL :D | 15:54 |
| rcarrillocruz | nice | 15:54 |
| ioggstream | rcarrillocruz: we made a nice openstack delivery this year, with a ceph storage stretched in two dcs | 15:55 |
| ioggstream | rcarrillocruz: and I was helping my colleagues to avoid bash provisioning scripts | 15:55 |
| ioggstream | rcarrillocruz: so I'm proof-of-concepting with shade+ansible | 15:55 |
| ioggstream | and it works | 15:56 |
| rcarrillocruz | sweet | 15:56 |
| rcarrillocruz | fwiw, i moved roles | 15:56 |
| rcarrillocruz | now at ansible | 15:56 |
| ioggstream | rcarrillocruz: cool, always HP | 15:56 |
| ioggstream | ? | 15:56 |
| rcarrillocruz | and hoping to get more hands on ansible modules, when i get settled (started last week at RedHat, bought a new house, moved cities, etc) | 15:56 |
| ioggstream | rcarrillocruz: where are you now? A colleague of mine just moved to Malaga | 15:57 |
| rcarrillocruz | oh | 15:57 |
| rcarrillocruz | i moved to Granada | 15:57 |
| rcarrillocruz | not too far from Malaga | 15:57 |
| rcarrillocruz | about an hour drive | 15:57 |
| ioggstream | as for me it's since April I almost work from home | 15:57 |
| ioggstream | that's nice | 15:58 |
| ioggstream | granada is WOW | 15:58 |
| ioggstream | I've been there | 15:58 |
| ioggstream | really WOW | 15:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/os-client-config: Add OpenTelekomCloud to the vendors https://review.openstack.org/412098 | 15:59 |
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| rcarrillocruz | indeed, super nice | 16:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/os-client-config: Use upper-constraints for tox envs https://review.openstack.org/419273 | 16:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/os-client-config: Remove 3.4 from tox envlist https://review.openstack.org/419457 | 16:39 |
| morgan | mordred: working on the swift restification patch now. it looks good except the failures | 17:01 |
| morgan | mordred: mostly looks like bytes vs str (so .encode/decode py3 issues) | 17:02 |
| morgan | i'll get those fixed shortly | 17:02 |
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| morgan | mordred: who in red hat can i bug about security reviews? do you have a name (cc jeblair, Shrews, rcarrillocruz) I want to start the process for shade to get actual VMT coverage since it has become a very important part of the interop story (it also means the small team here doesn't need to do all the heavy lifting for downstream notifications) unless y'all | 17:48 |
| morgan | have a concern on this (it should be minimal work on our front) | 17:48 |
| rcarrillocruz | morgan: i believe luke hinds could be of help | 17:55 |
| rcarrillocruz | he's security guy | 17:55 |
| rcarrillocruz | nfv and openstack | 17:55 |
| rcarrillocruz | and he's RH | 17:55 |
| morgan | cool | 17:56 |
| morgan | i think we cna lean on red hat for this security analysis (or at least start asking folks for help) vs. soliciting another source :) | 17:56 |
| morgan | rcarrillocruz: thanks! | 17:57 |
| rcarrillocruz | np | 17:57 |
| mordred | morgan: also, mike bursell - he reports to chris same as me and is security human | 17:57 |
| morgan | mordred: perfect | 18:01 |
| morgan | mordred: i'll get in touch with him | 18:01 |
| * morgan will start owning more security parts of our lovely little corner of the world (or at least the communications for such things) as needed. | 18:02 | |
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| mordred | morgan: I sent an intro to your rh mail | 18:07 |
| morgan | thnx was going to reach out post keystone meeting | 18:07 |
| morgan | but that works too! :) | 18:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/os-client-config: Add OpenTelekomCloud to the vendors https://review.openstack.org/412098 | 18:18 |
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| mordred | morgan: I got the py3 issues in the swift patch (was about to work on another test) | 18:34 |
| morgan | mordred: ah i had them fixed :P | 18:35 |
| morgan | but if you snagged it | 18:35 |
| morgan | cool | 18:35 |
| mordred | morgan: whoopsie | 18:35 |
| morgan | i am just doiing IRC meetings so can't write code/test as much | 18:35 |
| morgan | yeah it's just a simple .encode on the string | 18:35 |
| morgan | or you could generate bytes directly ;) | 18:35 |
| mordred | morgan: everything about bytes/strings in python2/3 is the worst experience ever | 18:36 |
| morgan | mordred: yep | 18:36 |
| morgan | i am sad python3 made it no better, it's consistently bad now though | 18:36 |
| morgan | vs wildly inconsistently bad | 18:36 |
| morgan | mordred: also... i made another french press of coffee | 18:36 |
| morgan | mordred: what grinder did you get? weight-based thing with hopper or something else? | 18:37 |
| mordred | morgan: Capresso Infinity ... it has a hopper, but I'm basically measuring beans by weight first, then tossing them into the hopper and grinding the whole batch - so the amount selection on the grinder isn't terribly useful | 18:39 |
| clarkb | I really like python3s implementation. Far better than say Gos | 18:39 |
| mordred | the python3 implementation is fine if python2 doesn't also exist | 18:40 |
| clarkb | its really only an issue with trying to support python2 as well because they were anti backward compat for so long | 18:40 |
| clarkb | yup that | 18:40 |
| mordred | yup | 18:40 |
| morgan | mordred: yeah. | 18:40 |
| morgan | clarkb: sure. but i like C/C++'s implementation(s) :P | 18:40 |
| morgan | pythonis doing too much for me in many cases for strings and not enough in others | 18:40 |
| morgan | it's somewhere in the middle in a wierd way | 18:41 |
| clarkb | morgan: I think that may be a very US english ascii centric view though | 18:41 |
| morgan | clarkb: i would prefer python to auto-select utf-8 unless otherwise specified | 18:41 |
| morgan | so you have flexibility but not required to specify it unless you need something more specialized | 18:41 |
| morgan | for conversions between bytes and text | 18:42 |
| morgan | and that would, i think make py3 much easier to manage | 18:42 |
| morgan | on this front | 18:42 |
| * morgan is also not a core python dev...sooooooooooooooo <giant grain of salt> | 18:42 | |
| clarkb | and thats the linux centric view (though I compeltely agree utf8 so much better than the weird wide char stuff in windows) | 18:42 |
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| morgan | clarkb: :) | 18:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Replace SwiftService with direct REST uploads https://review.openstack.org/415739 | 19:39 |
| mordred | Shrews, jeblair: ^^ k. that's now there with retry logic. I put in tests of both retry with intermittent failure and retry with persistent failure | 19:40 |
| mordred | there is WAY too much code directly in the large object upload method - and it's ugly and copy-pastad some - but I figure we can refactor it out next time we need to do an async something | 19:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Replace SwiftService with direct REST uploads https://review.openstack.org/415739 | 19:51 |
| mordred | ok. and there is testing the manifest file gets created properly | 19:51 |
| mordred | clarkb: ^^ if you don't mind, this is a rather big/ugly patch - I'd love eyeballs | 19:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Roberto Polli proposed openstack-infra/shade: Basic volume_type access https://review.openstack.org/414561 | 20:31 |
| Shrews | mordred: ack. i do not have the required brain power for that this evening. will try in the morning | 20:36 |
| clarkb | I too am of the qusetional brain capacity | 20:36 |
| clarkb | this poor weather has had me waking up at 3/4 am ish to clear furnace drain lines and my sleep schedule is all screwed up as a result | 20:37 |
| clarkb | do not recommend | 20:37 |
| Shrews | mordred: also, Roberto's review lgtm now. +2'd | 20:38 |
| clarkb | its like flying across time zones every day, except no flying and no timezones | 20:38 |
| Shrews | clarkb: that sounds horrible | 20:39 |
| mordred | Shrews: awesome | 20:39 |
| mordred | clarkb: and yes, yuck | 20:39 |
| clarkb | this summer when not every hvac person and plumber is busy dealing with frozen weather fallotu I intend to get it fixed | 20:39 |
| clarkb | but expect fixing it now I will run into plumbers fixing forzen pipes and hvac fixing people with actually broken furnaces and pay an arm and a leg | 20:40 |
| iogg | Shrews: you're flashing fast :D | 20:40 |
| iogg | Shrews: I tested on my 32G devstack | 20:41 |
| iogg | Shrews: but let's wait for mr. jenkins ;) | 20:41 |
| Shrews | time waits for no man... or bot | 20:46 |
| Shrews | and neither do i | 20:46 |
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| ioggstream | Shrews: rcarrillocruz night@all. time to put kids @bed. | 20:53 |
| ioggstream | thx4your time | 20:53 |
| Shrews | ioggstream: enjoy | 20:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Basic volume_type access https://review.openstack.org/414561 | 21:59 |
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| htaccess | mordred: regarding kongs question about vpnaas and shade, I understand the rationale to not add support in shade | 23:05 |
| htaccess | my question is does that imply there is very little chance of getting modules that support vpnaas into ansible at all? | 23:06 |
| mordred | htaccess: yah. fwiw, I'm ... torn on this whole question. thanks for reminding me. I'd like to chat with a few more folks and learn some things | 23:27 |
| mordred | htaccess: so I'll try to do that tomorrow when people are around and see if I can propose a plan of some sort | 23:27 |
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