| htaccess | mordred: thanks, feel free to ping me if you want a user perspective, I'm the person who requested the ability to setup vpns on our cloud, we use them extensively and i do everyhting else with ansible so having to go out of band to achieve vpn setup is a bit of an annoyance | 00:07 |
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| htaccess | but i fully understand the issue around this and totally undestand if the answer ends up as "no" :) | 00:08 |
| htaccess | s/ability to setup vpns on our cloud/ability to setup vpns on our cloud using ansible/ | 00:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andy Botting proposed openstack/os-client-config: Add support for Murano https://review.openstack.org/421668 | 04:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Andy Botting proposed openstack/os-client-config: Add support for Murano https://review.openstack.org/421668 | 05:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Andy Botting proposed openstack/os-client-config: Add support for Murano https://review.openstack.org/421668 | 05:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Roberto Polli proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add Neutron Network model. https://review.openstack.org/421753 | 09:11 |
| frickler | when will there be a new release of shade? | 09:19 |
| frickler | I'm working in a cloud now where availability_zone=nova isn't available. would it seem reasonable to add a default_az variable that would override the "nova" default per cloud? that would save me from having to specify this on every server creation | 09:22 |
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| clarkb | frickler: sounds like the sort of thing that would be good in os-client-config? | 09:27 |
| clarkb | (also I think there is a nova setting on the cloud side that you can set to have it pick a default az, not useful if you don't manage the cloud) | 09:27 |
| frickler | clarkb: yes. and in fact I don't manage that cloud | 09:58 |
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| Shrews | mordred: took a quick-ish pass at 415739. best I could do before finishing my first coffee | 13:26 |
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| Shrews | mordred: i don't mind the large upload method, but would be helpful to break it up with comments :) | 13:28 |
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| Shrews | mordred: fwiw, i like this new async adapter | 14:08 |
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| frickler | is there a different channel for os-client-config or is it on-topic here? if I have two cloud definitions differing only in the project name, is there a way to deduplicate all the auth and other stuff? | 14:22 |
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| mordred | frickler: os-client-config in #openstack-sdks - or here (if you want occ features ultimately you'll want to wind up talking to me) | 15:05 |
| mordred | frickler: for az - and other defaults - we've chatted a few times about adding general support for default values - default flavor and image and network all spring to mind as things people might want to set in a config file per-cloud | 15:07 |
| mordred | frickler: for the other thing - no, there isn't a way to dedup that info - but I agree it would certainly be nice if there was | 15:08 |
| mordred | frickler: that said - we do merge auth dicts, so you could just leave project out of the auth dict, and when you do the create you could do cloud='foo', auth={project_id='bar'} and I'm 95% sure it'll work | 15:09 |
| frickler | mordred: the idea would be that I would just need to change the cloud parameter in ansible:os-server for creating a server in one project or the other. or just export OS_CLOUD and run my openstack cli commands for either | 15:11 |
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| mordred | frickler: yah. we should figure out support for that - right now it's just copy-paste | 15:35 |
| mordred | frickler: well - I say that - pyyaml does support yaml anchors | 15:36 |
| mordred | so you could define your first auth dict with a named anchor and then just refer to that in the second copy | 15:36 |
| mordred | one sec - lemme get an example | 15:36 |
| mordred | frickler: https://markusholtermann.eu/2016/04/reference-variables-in-ansible-yaml/ | 15:37 |
| mordred | frickler: the two things he shows at the bottom of that should work without any effort on occ's part | 15:38 |
| frickler | mordred: cool, let me try that | 15:38 |
| mordred | frickler: http://paste.openstack.org/show/595410/ | 15:44 |
| mordred | frickler: got that to work | 15:44 |
| mordred | frickler: also this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/595413/ | 15:46 |
| mordred | (the original example I gave doens't really show how it works with dict overriding well I dont think) | 15:47 |
| mordred | frickler: https://learnxinyminutes.com/docs/yaml/ has better examples | 15:47 |
| Shrews | TIL new yaml things | 15:51 |
| frickler | mordred: fine, that works for me, too. after finding out that despite vim syntax highlighting suggesting otherwise, using "-" in anchor names leads to strange effects :-/ | 15:53 |
| frickler | mordred: thanks alot | 15:54 |
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| mordred | \o/ | 16:22 |
| iogg | mordred: I was watching the _upload_large_object method. does it make sense to put it in a separate file all that upload stuff ? | 16:43 |
| iogg | mordred: it resembles some twisted|tornado library ;) | 16:44 |
| mordred | iogg: :) | 16:45 |
| mordred | iogg: I've got a new rev coming that breaks it up a little bit more | 16:45 |
| mordred | (and adds comments) | 16:45 |
| iogg | mordred: it's some time I'm not into concurrent stuff so I avoid technical comments, but if that only applies to swift, it could have sense | 16:46 |
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| mordred | iogg: yah -it's really only for uploading large files to swift when they have to be broken into chunks. it's complex enough I really hope we don't have to use the same technique elsewhere :) | 16:47 |
| mordred | there - that might be a little more readable: remote: https://review.openstack.org/415739 Replace SwiftService with direct REST uploads | 16:48 |
| Shrews | much more ++ | 16:49 |
| iogg | Shrews: is there some neutron gui to validate the network model.rst? | 16:56 |
| mordred | iogg: ooh! thanks for digging in on the network normalization | 16:58 |
| iogg | mordred: sometimes you have to waterfall ;) model before | 17:00 |
| mordred | htaccess, Shrews: ok - I chatted with some folks, and I think accepting patches to add support for vpnaas would be fine. the project isn't dead, it's just in some administrative/governance limbo and we expect it to become 'official' again | 17:00 |
| iogg | rcarrillocruz: are you ansible-ing on openstack modules? | 17:01 |
| mordred | htaccess: I'll likely be extra strict on it | 17:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Mikhail S Medvedev proposed openstack-infra/shade: Prevent tight poll loops when *_AGE are zero https://review.openstack.org/422126 | 17:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/os-client-config: Add support for Murano https://review.openstack.org/421668 | 17:32 |
| Shrews | iogg: umm, don't know, but i doubt it | 17:34 |
| iogg | Shrews: wait=0 ? | 17:34 |
| Shrews | iogg: neutron gui | 17:34 |
| iogg | Shrews: ah, ok ;) | 17:34 |
| iogg | Shrews: as I'm working on the rbac stuff I'd avoid big patches and I'm stop&go with acknowledged small patches | 17:35 |
| mordred | Shrews: ooh! TypeError: range() integer step argument expected, got float. | 17:57 |
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| iogg | mordred: question on _iterate_timeout. with wait=0 it really seems a spin-lock | 18:36 |
| mordred | iogg: yah - it kind of is - but in the single-threaded context, there isn't much else to do while waiting | 18:37 |
| iogg | mordred: ok, but I'm just ogging the cpu waiting for a timeout | 18:39 |
| mordred | yah - I was actually thinking of having the unit tests set that delay to 0.1 seconds and see how that goes :) | 18:40 |
| iogg | mordred: while in all the _iterate_timeout usage I'm checking for nonzero | 18:40 |
| iogg | mordred: I'm not very much into shade, so I'm not pushiing for a specific | 18:41 |
| iogg | solution | 18:41 |
| mordred | totally - it's ... I think about this every time I run unittests and my fan turns on | 18:42 |
| mordred | but then then unittests are done and I stop thinking about it :) | 18:42 |
| iogg | mordred: but the patch which controls everywhere if the calls uses zero | 18:42 |
| iogg | it seemed to me that it's worth checking | 18:43 |
| iogg | a single solution in | 18:43 |
| iogg | _iterate_timeout | 18:43 |
| iogg | but that's just my 2ยข | 18:44 |
| iogg | morded now bye my kid is assaulting me | 18:44 |
| iogg | withbattle calls :DDDD | 18:44 |
| mordred | \o/ | 18:44 |
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| clarkb | fwiw if you use time.sleep(0) that is used to force a context switch | 18:50 |
| clarkb | so it might wait more busily than if you slept for a second BUT it should relinquish the cpu to anything else that needs it too | 18:50 |
| mordred | clarkb: nod | 18:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Replace SwiftService with direct REST uploads https://review.openstack.org/415739 | 19:50 |
| mordred | Shrews, clarkb: ^^ that should fix the real error - I'm mildly worried that the -legacy job has gone awol again - we'll see when it returns from that | 19:53 |
| mordred | but there's a TON of unrelated failures: http://logs.openstack.org/26/422126/1/check/gate-shade-dsvm-functional-legacy/5aa292c/console.html | 19:54 |
| mordred | about resource not found - which reminds me of the last time stuff broke because of the sdk problem | 19:54 |
| mordred | morgan: ^^ you too - in case you have thoughts/ideas | 19:54 |
| mordred | I've got a nodepool job for holding a legacy node | 19:54 |
| morgan | mordred: hey | 19:55 |
| morgan | oh wow, yeah that looks ugly | 19:56 |
| morgan | looks like soething wonky with collecting data from keystone (wtf?) | 19:56 |
| Shrews | hrm, resource scarcity | 19:56 |
| morgan | mordred: oh look it is getting 404s, either the setup is broken or something broke so it is constructing bad urls now | 19:57 |
| morgan | stevemar: was a ksa release just done? | 19:57 |
| morgan | out of curiosity? | 19:57 |
| morgan | and/or keystoneclient and/or other such libs | 19:57 |
| mordred | morgan: SOOOOOOOOOO | 20:02 |
| mordred | morgan: I just logged in and can run list_users with shade against that devstack just fine | 20:02 |
| mordred | morgan: I'm re-running the tests - but I'm starting to wonder if maybe race condition? | 20:03 |
| morgan | maybe? | 20:05 |
| morgan | maybe we need some extra setup time? | 20:05 |
| morgan | or we're stomping across tests from one testcase to another | 20:05 |
| morgan | for some reason | 20:05 |
| mordred | morgan: either one of those would be weird things to have just started | 20:06 |
| stevemar | morgan: ksa and ksm yes | 20:06 |
| stevemar | morgan: and pycadf | 20:06 |
| stevemar | ksc will be next week | 20:06 |
| morgan | mordred: ^ we did have a ksa release, just as a point | 20:06 |
| mordred | the legacy job runs on stable/newton | 20:07 |
| mordred | stevemar: so - it's _possible_ that the ksa release maybe borked something for stable/newton? | 20:07 |
| mordred | (or the ksm one - more likely I'd guess) | 20:07 |
| Shrews | mordred: umm, we don't install the latest things for stable/newton. we're limited by what was released at that point | 20:07 |
| stevemar | mordred: eh? they were relatively the same as last weeks | 20:08 |
| mordred | stevemar: grasping at straws currently - the jobs started failing today | 20:08 |
| Shrews | mordred: even devstack should be limited to newton timeframe | 20:08 |
| mordred | stevemar: http://logs.openstack.org/26/422126/1/check/gate-shade-dsvm-functional-legacy/5aa292c/console.html is a log showing the failure | 20:08 |
| mordred | Shrews: yah. agree. | 20:08 |
| mordred | shade.exc.OpenStackCloudException: Failed to list endpoints (Inner Exception: The resource could not be found. (HTTP 404) (Request-ID: req-809ce7ae-4844-47fc-83e2-0b97dc1d23a3)) | 20:09 |
| mordred | boom. broke again | 20:09 |
| stevemar | mordred: http://logs.openstack.org/53/421653/1/check/gate-releases-tox-list-changes-ubuntu-xenial/4ffabac/console.html#_2017-01-18_04_15_11_477097 and http://logs.openstack.org/54/421654/1/check/gate-releases-tox-list-changes-ubuntu-xenial/69531c7/console.html#_2017-01-18_04_19_47_398049 for things that went into ksm/ksa | 20:09 |
| stevemar | mordred: do you test whatever the latest master is for newton or whatever is the latest release? | 20:11 |
| stevemar | mordred: we did backport some changes into stable/newton for keystone libs | 20:11 |
| mordred | stevemar: we just tell devstack-gate to use stable/newton - so I think latest tip of stable/newton | 20:12 |
| morgan | which could mean we snagged a backport causing issues | 20:12 |
| morgan | or it's a race. | 20:12 |
| mordred | WELL | 20:12 |
| morgan | and we just happened to hit it today | 20:12 |
| mordred | if I run one test over again | 20:12 |
| mordred | it breaks - with no concurrency | 20:12 |
| mordred | and it breaks on list_endpoints :) | 20:13 |
| morgan | ok so lets say no race | 20:13 |
| Shrews | keystoneauth1==2.12.2 | 20:13 |
| Shrews | keystonemiddleware==4.9.0 | 20:13 |
| Shrews | those seem right? | 20:13 |
| morgan | but shade can list endpoints directly? | 20:13 |
| morgan | just not in the test? | 20:13 |
| * morgan blinks | 20:13 | |
| stevemar | Shrews: those are the latest stable, not from tip thogh | 20:13 |
| morgan | stevemar: keystone backports? | 20:14 |
| morgan | i don't remember anything particular | 20:14 |
| morgan | that would be related. | 20:14 |
| stevemar | morgan: right, just the stuff thta doesn't choke on binary stuff in the request/response | 20:15 |
| morgan | mordred: you have a broken devstack right? | 20:15 |
| morgan | can we get more output, the URL for the .request() call? | 20:16 |
| mordred | WOAH it just got weirder | 20:16 |
| Shrews | unpossible | 20:16 |
| morgan | mordred: ? | 20:16 |
| mordred | one sec- paste coming | 20:16 |
| morgan | kk | 20:16 |
| mordred | http://paste.openstack.org/show/595464/ | 20:17 |
| mordred | stevemar, morgan, Shrews: ^^ the first form, using the operator_cloud shortcut - works - the second form, getting a cloud config and passing to the constructor - doesn't wor | 20:17 |
| mordred | work | 20:17 |
| mordred | the output is: http://paste.openstack.org/show/595465/ | 20:18 |
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| morgan | so.. bad keystone endpoint somehow? | 20:19 |
| morgan | when built from config | 20:19 |
| morgan | *blinks* | 20:19 |
| mordred | but why is one constructor form breaking? openstack_cloud is _supposed_ to be syntactic sugar around a call to OperatorCloud | 20:19 |
| Shrews | what the fudge | 20:20 |
| mordred | morgan: http://paste.openstack.org/show/595467/ added in printing of the cloud_config object | 20:20 |
| morgan | if you run the second form first, does it pass? | 20:20 |
| mordred | nope | 20:20 |
| mordred | the second form always fails | 20:20 |
| mordred | http debug output coming | 20:20 |
| * Shrews points out that there was a recent occ release | 20:21 | |
| mordred | http://paste.openstack.org/show/595468/ | 20:21 |
| mordred | Shrews: yup. reverting occ fixes it | 20:22 |
| mordred | now ... WHY????? | 20:22 |
| morgan | http://198.72.124.18/identity/v2.0/endpoints vs http://198.72.124.18/identity_v2_admin/v2.0/endpoints | 20:22 |
| morgan | the first one is failing | 20:22 |
| Shrews | mordred: because Trump? | 20:22 |
| morgan | the second one is passing | 20:22 |
| mordred | WEIRD | 20:22 |
| morgan | you're missing identity_v2_admin in the failing one you're getting just /identity/ | 20:23 |
| morgan | since /identity/ is probably v3 only | 20:23 |
| Shrews | morgan: i suspect something with _validate_auth_ksc() | 20:23 |
| morgan | so we mucked with something that changed the resulting endpoint when called via config? | 20:23 |
| morgan | this screams to me v2 vs v3 somewhere | 20:24 |
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| mordred | k. found it | 20:24 |
| mordred | still don't know WHY - but I found the change that breaks it | 20:24 |
| Shrews | mordred: which? | 20:25 |
| morgan | Shrews: yah. | 20:25 |
| morgan | Shrews: now i am curious | 20:25 |
| Shrews | fa4e1bd maybe? the suspense is killing me | 20:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/os-client-config: Revert "Fix interface_key for identity clients" https://review.openstack.org/422222 | 20:26 |
| mordred | that ^^ | 20:26 |
| mordred | totally is the thing that breaks | 20:26 |
| morgan | i can tell yuou why | 20:27 |
| mordred | now - I think it's very much worth figuring out why shade.operator_cloud works and shade.OperatorCloud doesn't - and why that patch breaks stable/newton | 20:27 |
| mordred | yay! | 20:27 |
| morgan | because we have v2 split off from normal identity endpoints | 20:27 |
| morgan | so you just basically exempted it from any endpoint_type logic | 20:27 |
| morgan | you're falling through to just "identity" | 20:27 |
| morgan | and that is v3 only afaict | 20:27 |
| mordred | ahhhhhh | 20:27 |
| morgan | this is a v2/v3 compat thing | 20:27 |
| morgan | so you can test both with v2 enabled | 20:28 |
| mordred | so I'd need to put in an 'if api_version == 3, blah' | 20:28 |
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| morgan | yep. and still fall to endpoint_type if version == 2 | 20:28 |
| morgan | it's a wonky thing due to our setup for v2 vs v3 | 20:28 |
| morgan | hopefully it doesn't run into v3 issues there, but i think it's sane (though i'd jsut 2x check that /identity/ is in-fact v3 only | 20:29 |
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| Shrews | mordred: we should have caught this in our -libs-nv job, right? Doesn't that pull OCC master? Or is it just the released version | 20:30 |
| Shrews | ? | 20:30 |
| Shrews | hrm, that job was still passing today | 20:31 |
| Shrews | oh, it also needs to go against v2 | 20:31 |
| morgan | yah | 20:31 |
| mordred | it only seems to break for stable/newton | 20:31 |
| Shrews | dammit. do we need ANOTHER job | 20:31 |
| mordred | yah | 20:31 |
| Shrews | ? | 20:31 |
| morgan | not sure why only stable/newton is busted | 20:31 |
| mordred | stable/newton is where we force testing as if the cloud does not have v3 endpoints | 20:32 |
| Shrews | need a -legacy-libs-nv | 20:32 |
| morgan | ahhhhh | 20:32 |
| morgan | that would explain it then | 20:32 |
| Shrews | our job matrix is bigger than your job matrix | 20:33 |
| mordred | our job matrix DOES catch ALL of the bugs | 20:34 |
| mordred | sometimes at unfortunate times | 20:34 |
| mordred | but it does eventually catch all of them | 20:34 |
| Shrews | i'm actually quite proud of that | 20:34 |
| morgan | shade and rally are really the "integrated gate"++ in catching things | 20:35 |
| Shrews | even outside of OpenStack | 20:35 |
| Shrews | we've caught some ansible bugs | 20:35 |
| Shrews | anyone want the esteemed honor of adding the new job? | 20:37 |
| mordred | Shrews: I can get it | 20:39 |
| Shrews | well, hrm. that doesn't make sense since the idea is to test against unreleased versions of the clients. perhaps we should just change the current legacy job to pull the latest shade/occ? | 20:39 |
| Shrews | mordred: what do you think? i mean, we always tell folks to upgrade to the latest shade to get better compatibility, so.... *shrug* | 20:41 |
| mordred | Shrews: oh - well - so there's another thing | 20:41 |
| mordred | Shrews: which is that we're not ACTUALLY testing what we think we are in the -libs job | 20:42 |
| Shrews | neat | 20:42 |
| mordred | Shrews: because we don't install the master versoins of the libs into our functional venv | 20:42 |
| Shrews | such fun. fun overload | 20:42 |
| mordred | Shrews: what we're testing is do the master versions of those libs work as part of devstackas part of the install | 20:42 |
| mordred | yah | 20:42 |
| mordred | I'll fix that when I add the other job | 20:42 |
| Shrews | k k | 20:43 |
| Shrews | i thought that job passed WAAAAAAY to often | 20:43 |
| Shrews | :) | 20:43 |
| Shrews | i mean, this is OpenStack after all | 20:43 |
| * morgan gets ready to go back to coding mode | 20:44 | |
| morgan | unless you need more eyes on things | 20:45 |
| morgan | i'd like to get to the point where i can pivot over to restification in shade | 20:45 |
| morgan | but while i'm thinking in debug/code review mode, happy to look at more things | 20:45 |
| Shrews | moar REST ++ | 20:46 |
| morgan | Shrews: i know right?! | 20:53 |
| morgan | keystone will be a bit weird to do rest since v2 and v3... | 20:53 |
| Shrews | morgan: embrace the fun. feel the hate grow within you | 20:54 |
| morgan | lol | 20:55 |
| Shrews | http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/017/886/download.jpg | 20:55 |
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| mordred | morgan: otoh - you get to revel in how enjoyable it is to write tests with jamielennox's requests_mock | 21:14 |
| * mordred hands jamielennox a box of cupcakes | 21:15 | |
| mordred | morgan: now that swift is done- everything else uses Session already - which means that just rewriting unittests to use requests_mock instead of mocking client libs totally works and is a fun first step in the restification | 21:16 |
| * Shrews understands that jamielennox is headed to Durham to visit mordred's old stomping grounds with olaph | 21:17 | |
| Shrews | too bad i'll be snowboarding in WV when he visits | 21:17 |
| * olaph stomps | 21:17 | |
| * Shrews stomps harder | 21:17 | |
| mordred | stomp stomp stomp | 21:18 |
| morgan | mordred: hehe | 21:25 |
| morgan | mordred: ++ | 21:25 |
| * morgan makes coffeeeeeeeee | 21:25 | |
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| morgan | Shrews: mmmm snowboarding | 21:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add helper script to install branch tips https://review.openstack.org/422293 | 22:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add helper script to install branch tips https://review.openstack.org/422293 | 22:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/os-client-config: Revert "Fix interface_key for identity clients" https://review.openstack.org/422222 | 23:19 |
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