Tuesday, 2017-09-26

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cdentoffice hours office hours, got ourselves some office hours09:02
cdenttc-members who are around, are you alerting on tc-members09:03
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johnthetubaguycdent: I forgot about adding that, hopefully done that now09:33
johnthetubaguyin London at OpenStack Days today, I see ttx at the front hosting the keynotes09:34
cdentI considered going upcountry for that, but then realized I needed a break from such things09:34
johnthetubaguyif anyone is around, I am +1 the wait 6 months on glare, but I wonder what we want to see in 6 months to say yes09:34
johnthetubaguyit feels like its more than just glance and glare being friendly to each other, which seems to be the current ask09:35
cdentyes, my concern with the waiting is that it seems as much kicking the can down the road as anything09:35
johnthetubaguyyeah, I honestly feel bad for not kicking up more of a fuss about this in 201509:36
cdentI understand the concerns about being friendly but it feels a bit like a proxy for something more.09:36
johnthetubaguyfor me we need agreement on the future of the images API09:37
johnthetubaguycurrently feels more like a begrudge non-compete agreement, rather than agreement on the future09:38
johnthetubaguyimage lifecycle management is a pain (upgrade making everyone's lives hard again)09:38
johnthetubaguyif glare is the solution, which I heard at one point, we have a big problem09:38
johnthetubaguytrying to thinking what the other topics would help "prove" we have some rough level of agreement on where things are going09:39
johnthetubaguynot sure if that approach is sound, just thinking out loud09:39
cdentOne thing that seems concerning about glare is that with sufficient time and tweaking it can satisfy many use cases and thus often finds itself in the positions of “yeah, we can do that”09:51
cdentwhereas what I think we should be striving for with new projects is “we do _this_"09:51
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cdentdtantsur|lunch: you get anywhere in your thinking on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/482759/ ? Based on your comments there, it seems like you don’t want the tag if tags continue to be as ambiguous as they are now?10:22
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ttxyay Blazar11:20
openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Adding Infra contributors is a top 5 opportunity  https://review.openstack.org/50225911:20
openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Update wording in Glance "Top 5" item  https://review.openstack.org/50316811:22
openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Blazar - Resource Reservation Service  https://review.openstack.org/48286011:23
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Explicitly say which release goals were completed  https://review.openstack.org/50319111:29
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dtantsurcde<TAB> :(12:15
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smcginnisdtantsur: He does stay connected, but I think if you use his nick, he has a bot that will play back mentions IIRC.13:21
dtantsurwow, that's a tech! anyway, I answered on the review :)13:21
amrithso when's the next TC chatfest?13:57
amrithsometime today, yes?13:57
amrithor did I miss it?13:57
mugsiemissed it :)13:58
mugsie09:00 UTC this morning13:58
openstackgerritPengfei Ni proposed openstack/governance master: Add project openstack/stackube.  https://review.openstack.org/46246014:11
dhellmannamrith : of course, if you have a topic, you can start a discussion at any point14:19
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amriththx dhellmann15:29
amrithI just realized that freaking google calendar can't schedule an appointment in UTC15:30
amrithand my old appointments migrated into local time15:30
cdentamrith: iceland15:40
dimsamrith : did you get your jacket? (denver)15:48
amrithcdent thanks, did not know that. Will check16:03
amrithdims ... no, someone must've liked it.16:03
amrithand I don't begrudge them.16:03
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack/governance master: Adjustments to Infra contributors top-5 entry  https://review.openstack.org/50763717:41
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