| openstackgerrit | YumengBao proposed openstack/governance master: Add Cyborg-specs Repository to the Governance Repository https://review.openstack.org/553977 | 01:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | YumengBao proposed openstack/governance master: Add Cyborg-specs repository to the governance repository https://review.openstack.org/553977 | 01:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Add xstatic-** to horizon project https://review.openstack.org/551980 | 10:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Update IRC nickname for Samuel Cassiba https://review.openstack.org/554029 | 10:36 |
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| dims | hola folks | 13:59 |
| cdent | him dims | 14:00 |
| cdent | oops! hi | 14:00 |
| cdent | but also him | 14:00 |
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| smcginnis | him is dims. | 14:05 |
| dims | :) | 14:05 |
| cdent | dims dims the dimming dimmer dammit | 14:06 |
| dims | while eating dimsum :) | 14:06 |
| smcginnis | There's a Dr Suess rhyme there somewhere, but it's Monday morning and I can't come up with it. | 14:07 |
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| TheJulia | Good morning | 15:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance master: Resolution for minimal SIG governance https://review.openstack.org/554254 | 15:08 |
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| mriedem | smcginnis: the circular dependency in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554270/ is why we eol branches :) | 18:41 |
| smcginnis | mriedem: I did think about how much more often things like this will happen as branches age. | 18:42 |
| smcginnis | Guess we'll have to see how all that goes. | 18:42 |
| mriedem | dependent libraries are usually the killer | 18:42 |
| mriedem | more than anything | 18:42 |
| smcginnis | Fork them all and manage them ourselves. Full control! | 18:43 |
| persia | I would think that more nuanced pinning to ensure older branches continue to test with (frozen) older libraries would be the solution, but it isn't worth designing it in detail until we experience aging. | 18:44 |
| persia | For some things, it may be wise to have a persistent mirror of everything ever depended upon, but OpenStack has been lucky so far in that none of the dependencies have happened to be projects the creators have tried to remove from the internet (most code hosting orgs and many commercial distros will respond positively to copyright holder requests to cease publication). | 18:46 |
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| smcginnis | The big gotcha this time was it was a pip change, which we can't technically ping since we need pip first. | 18:49 |
| persia | I would phrase that as "it is technically difficult to pin pip, as a result of the current test image generation and preparation processes", but yes :) | 18:50 |
| mriedem | yes i remember back in the day at ibm when our test scripts had to pin pip on like havana | 18:59 |
| mriedem | the good old says | 18:59 |
| mriedem | *Days | 18:59 |
| clarkb | just remember that pinning is like a snowball going down hill | 19:01 |
| clarkb | pin one thing which pops up a new thing, pin that and repeat | 19:01 |
| mriedem | yeah i remember all too well the days before upper-constraints | 19:09 |
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| * persia reads backscroll and delights in the image of upper-constraints being the base of a snowman | 20:11 | |
| TheJulia | That is a moderately delightful thought... | 20:28 |
| smcginnis | Too bad we missed our snowman making chance in Dublin. | 20:29 |
| cdent | it snowed a lot in dublin, but it didn't snow enough to make that big of a snowman | 20:30 |
| clarkb | cdent had a reasonably impressive snowball going though | 20:33 |
| TheJulia | The snowball fight was awesome | 20:33 |
| smcginnis | His snow angels were more impressive. :) | 20:33 |
| * cdent misses being snowed in in dublin with all the crazy openstack peoples | 20:34 | |
| smcginnis | Despite some added stress, that was really pretty fun. | 20:34 |
| persia | Except without the stress of everyone worrying about transport, really | 20:34 |
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