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| fungi | tc-members and everyone else too: our second tc office hour of the week is now upon us | 01:01 |
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| cmurphy | oh I'm in the right timezone for this one | 01:06 |
| cmurphy | how strange | 01:06 |
| fungi | it's not generally very active, i'm afraid | 01:09 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: regarding approving governance changes, would you rather have me point you at actions I detect as missing, or act on them myself ? | 08:59 |
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| cdent | dhellmann: my reminder system is reminding me about [t 31hf] | 11:57 |
| purplerbot | <dhellmann> so we should probably do some sort of "here's what this 1 line agenda item means" email before the meetings [2017-11-27 15:10:35.068259] [n 31hf] | 11:57 |
| cdent | I _think_ you've already started that, but wanted to follow through | 11:57 |
| dims | o/ | 12:11 |
| cdent | hola dims | 12:12 |
| mnaser | morning | 12:47 |
| dhellmann | ttx: it would help if you point things out so I know what I'm missing | 13:03 |
| dhellmann | cdent : yes, I have that on my todo list. I'm hoping to get the agenda locked down first, but maybe I'll just do a brain dump of what's there now | 13:03 |
| cdent | dhellmann: I reckon doing a brain dump might stimulate people to think up more? | 13:04 |
| dhellmann | at this point there's not room to add anything to the agenda, it's more a matter of me talking in depth about something that gets dropped | 13:04 |
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| * cdent nods | 13:05 | |
| dhellmann | I'll start putting together notes about the parts that I know about and then others can fill in details on the thread | 13:07 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: what's the plan for updating https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Vancouver2018 to be a list of the etherpads for the selected sessions? should we just do that and drop the "we are here" graphic? | 13:46 |
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| smcginnis | I think it might be nice to have something like https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Liberty/Etherpads | 13:47 |
| smcginnis | I also wonder if we are going to get naming conflicts with YVR-x-y | 13:48 |
| dhellmann | yeah, using the airport codes for the names always bothered me as obfuscation | 13:49 |
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| dhellmann | for past forums we just updated the planning page directly (see https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Sydney2017 for example) | 13:50 |
| ttx | dhellmann: yes, let's do the same | 13:50 |
| dhellmann | maybe cdent wants to get that going, since he has started creating some etherpads already | 13:50 |
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| cdent | If it is desirable for that to be in the next 24 hours or so, then me is a bad idea, I'm still coming out of a deep hole. But happy to jump in later if that's fine. | 13:51 |
| smcginnis | I can get things started. | 13:52 |
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| smcginnis | Then send out a ML post letting forum session leaders take it from there to add their individual etherpads. | 13:52 |
| smcginnis | We just want the format used for Sydney, right? | 13:52 |
| * smcginnis brushes up his copy/paste skills | 13:52 | |
| dhellmann | smcginnis : yeah, that seems like a good place to start | 13:53 |
| dhellmann | and thanks :-) | 13:53 |
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| smcginnis | On it | 13:54 |
| cdent | thanks smcginnis | 13:56 |
| dims | +1 smcginnis | 13:59 |
| smcginnis | No problem. | 14:00 |
| smcginnis | ttx: I don't suppose the Summit Schedule has an API that I could use to extract and list all of the schedule sessions> | 14:04 |
| ttx | smcginnis: if you just need the schedule I bet you could just copy data from https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15hkU0FLJ7yqougCiCQgprwTy867CGnmUvAvKaBjlDAo/edit?usp=sharing | 14:08 |
| smcginnis | Oh, that might work. Thanks! | 14:09 |
| smcginnis | Or I'll just start an example for others to follow to fill in their own. ;) | 14:09 |
| smcginnis | Hmm https://developers.google.com/sheets/api/quickstart/python | 14:09 |
| ttx | smcginnis: btw I wrote down some notes on the discussions we had in Copenhagen... But my memory is not that great, so could use your help there | 14:09 |
| ttx | See bottom of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/CPH-k8s-openstack-story-trading | 14:10 |
| smcginnis | ttx: Sure, I could try to add anything else I can remember. | 14:10 |
| smcginnis | brb | 14:10 |
| cdent | tc-members: I've started the etherpad for the "openstack boundaries" forum topic at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-forum-TC-project-boundaries please feel free to embrace and extend as required | 14:14 |
| fungi | thanks cdent! | 14:14 |
| mugsie | cdent: you forgot the 3rd step | 14:14 |
| mugsie | :) | 14:14 |
| cdent | maybe I'll do that later if it proves necessary | 14:15 |
| fungi | dhellmann: cdent: i thought i saw someone on the foundation staff mention they'd already precreated etherpads for all the forum sessions and linked them from the schedule entries? i could be mistaken but i'll double-check | 14:16 |
| cdent | fungi: if so, there're not linked on summit-schedule | 14:16 |
| cdent | hmm, that's an exciting typo | 14:17 |
| fungi | dhellmann: cdent: ahh, no found it, that was just for the opendev sessions looks like | 14:18 |
| fungi | (those all have a "etherpad link" hyperlink in them) | 14:18 |
| fungi | hrm... not even all those do now that i'm looking | 14:19 |
| fungi | aha, ashlee set up etherpads for the opendev collab sessions. i guess that was it | 14:22 |
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| dhellmann | in the past we haven't worried about adding links to the schedule descriptions, but if it's easy to do it might make sense | 14:53 |
| dhellmann | the wiki page also works well, though, so if it's hard or would require a bunch of manual labor then there's no point | 14:53 |
| fungi | sure, i was less concerned about whether they're linked in the session descriptions and more about not duplicating effort if pads had already been created | 14:57 |
| fungi | but seems like they haven't | 14:57 |
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| clarkb | mnaser: you had asked about board meeting location previously I've updated the wiki to include it. But room 302 at the convention center appears to be the answer | 18:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: add the new constellations repository to the documentation team https://review.openstack.org/565877 | 18:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: add goal-tools repo to tc list https://review.openstack.org/565814 | 18:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Add ansible-role-tripleo-keystone to governance https://review.openstack.org/564830 | 18:44 |
| mnaser | clarkb: thank you | 18:44 |
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| fungi | mordred: what was the next pep 541 step for keystone after https://github.com/dcrosta/keystone/issues/2 ? | 18:58 |
| fungi | and presumably we need to do something similar for magnum as well?' | 18:58 |
| fungi | i've also accidentally discovered that nobody's registered manila on pypi yet. i wonder if we have any other api service projects in the same boat | 18:59 |
| diablo_rojo | cdent, cmurphy dims dhellmann flaper87 TheJulia any of you willing to help out with the Forum 101 session right after keynotes on Monday? Just covering the basics of the forum, how it works, who should go, etc. Traditionally there has been one staff member, one tc member and one uc member. | 19:02 |
| fungi | i can volunteer, but wouldn't want it to be too staff-heavy | 19:03 |
| cmurphy | diablo_rojo: i think i have a forum session right after keynotes :( | 19:04 |
| cmurphy | it even got rescheduled just for me so i'd feel pretty bad about missing it | 19:04 |
| diablo_rojo | cmurphy, no worries :) | 19:05 |
| dims | diablo_rojo : i can be last resort if no one else can make it. | 19:06 |
| diablo_rojo | Thanks dims :) We can wait a bit for others to respond first. | 19:10 |
| dims | yep! | 19:10 |
| cdent | diablo_rojo: I reckon I can probably do that if what's required isn't a huge deal in terms of prep (several other things on that). There are a couple of sessions I wanted to go to in that slot, but only casually and it would be nice to be useful. | 19:17 |
| cdent | s/on that/on that day, but later/ | 19:17 |
| diablo_rojo | cdent, basically no prep required. I think we are mostly going to reuse the etherpad from SYD (ttx is updating for this round). I think all that needs to happen is get there and look it over. Talk for a bit, answer questions and skedaddle. | 19:19 |
| diablo_rojo | I remember being done in like 15/20 min last time | 19:19 |
| cdent | cool, I'm up for that unless someone who is more enthusiastic comes along | 19:20 |
| dhellmann | diablo_rojo : I was planning to go to ttx's talk, but I can watch that later and drop by to help for a bit | 19:33 |
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| TheJulia | diablo_rojo: cdent: it looks like that time is available for me, so happy to help | 19:41 |
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| cdent | let's all be there! | 19:42 |
| TheJulia | all the introvets! | 19:42 |
| TheJulia | introverts | 19:42 |
| cdent | perfection | 19:42 |
| TheJulia | Or if there is a cat available, purrfection | 19:43 |
| diablo_rojo | Ha ha isn't that like 60% of attendees? | 19:43 |
| diablo_rojo | Introverts? | 19:44 |
| cdent | diablo_rojo: speaking of, I forgot to arrange a room for the couch-sigh | 19:44 |
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| cdent | sig | 19:45 |
| TheJulia | diablo_rojo: Sounds about right | 19:45 |
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| cdent | 'night all | 19:45 |
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| smcginnis | That reminds me, that was one nice thing I saw at Kubecon. They had a "quiet room" for people that wanted to get away from all the activities. | 19:45 |
| TheJulia | There has been some discussion of that before, but I don't think it went anywhere | 19:46 |
| diablo_rojo | Oh man. Nap SIG. | 19:46 |
| jroll | +1000000000 | 19:46 |
| TheJulia | +2 | 19:46 |
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| dhellmann | tc-members: here's my rough description of the items on the upcoming leadership meeting agenda: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-May/130336.html | 20:06 |
| smcginnis | I think in the past, the first part of the day was closed and the last part was open with TC and UC. | 20:13 |
| smcginnis | That's switched now with just a short board meeting at the end. Am I understanding this right? | 20:13 |
| clarkb | smcginnis: the board meetings are always open aiui. They may or may not have an executive session that is closed. Then within that open meeting there may or may not be joint leadership topics with teh TC/UC participating directly | 20:14 |
| smcginnis | OK, I usually missed mornings due to participating in the upstream institute activities, but I had thought most of it was closed anyway. | 20:15 |
| smcginnis | Good to hear the majority is not. | 20:15 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I thought they weren't going to have a separate board meeting at all but I guess they need to | 20:22 |
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| cmurphy | dhellmann: thanks for that agenda summary, that's really helpful | 21:24 |
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| mnaser | dhellmann: indeed, it is very helpful (and slightly comforting to know what to expect for someone being there the first time :)) | 21:33 |
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