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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: add vice chair role to the tc charter https://review.openstack.org/583947 | 11:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: designate Mohammed Naser as vice chair https://review.openstack.org/583948 | 11:22 |
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| TheJulia | Good morning | 12:27 |
| smcginnis | o/ | 12:27 |
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| EmilienM | hello | 12:44 |
| * cdent feeds EmilienM some more | 12:44 | |
| EmilienM | cdent: feed me with your knowledge and I'll be happy | 12:45 |
| cdent | You are healthiest owl | 12:47 |
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| scas | o/ | 13:15 |
| scas | i have a conundrum beyond conundrums brewing, which i've learned a bit more as to the gravity last night | 13:17 |
| scas | tl;dr k8s ate my contributors | 13:17 |
| smcginnis | That's certainly been a trend lately. | 13:17 |
| cdent | yes, lots of that | 13:18 |
| scas | thusly, that lofty 75% from the numbers-who-shall-not-be-named is effectively 100% | 13:19 |
| cmurphy | I think in general the config management projects are better than the rest of the projects at pulling contributors out of their pool of users - does that mean the users are going to k8s? or can we make a more focused effort at turning the existing chef users into chef contributors? | 13:22 |
| cdent | tc-members I'm starting some notes on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tc-stein-ptg about trying to work out how to actually _do_ something. please feel free to make it more meaty | 13:24 |
| scas | my effort starts at getting something on docs.o.o, as i'm not quite prepared to make this little stack of raspberry pis running k8s to consume me, too | 13:24 |
| EmilienM | cdent: thanks, nice notes | 13:24 |
| scas | i'm not sure if i'll be able to do the ptg or even the berlin summit, which doesn't really help when engaging people in-person | 13:26 |
| scas | the tech is 'there', but it's pretty far removed from the public eye by attrition, which, of course, further underscores the openstack-the-everything hype cycle | 13:28 |
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| scas | the analytics don't lie - there are users out there. the conversion rate to contributorship, however, is pretty low. attracting maintainers is one of my focus areas | 13:31 |
| TheJulia | scas: does it feel like an isuse in messaging in terms of conveying need? Or could it be that users are happy with what they are using at the moment? | 13:36 |
| scas | TheJulia: my first thought was 'both', so we'll go with that | 13:40 |
| scas | it works, it doesn't burn down the world | 13:40 |
| TheJulia | And regarding usage analytics, does that reveal what sorts of users leverage your work? | 13:42 |
| scas | not totally, but there are the ones that still mention that they use chef in the context of openstack. i know of a couple of names beyond my own employer | 13:45 |
| scas | nowhere close to what the analytics report in terms of 'we use chef' | 13:46 |
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| scas | the names that i do know of are fairly large mammals in the ecosystem, which is a good motivator in and of itself | 13:48 |
| scas | i think the next immediate thing i can do is hasten getting docs.o.o presence, so that when people go poking around there, it's not just the three projects that are published | 13:53 |
| scas | beyond that, a proof of concept for using k8s in my integration test suite so that it doesn't continue to consume all mindshare | 13:55 |
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| smcginnis | I guess that's good that PTL nomination hasn't even officially opened yet and we already have a bunch of candidates proposed. | 15:16 |
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| persia | I intended to officially open it about 16 hours ago. Did you not get my mail? | 16:04 |
| * persia hasn't updated to all the latest standards about making sure mail can be delivered to people who avoid spam | 16:05 | |
| smcginnis | persia: I see it now, thanks. I didn't think it opened until tomorrow, but we had people already nominating on Monday. | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | Not a bad thing, actually nice to see folks are jumping on that. | 16:05 |
| persia | I may have had a mistake in dates. I thought it was Tuesday that things opened. | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | I thought I saw the 26th somewhere. | 16:07 |
| persia | Anyway, in practice, I don't think a couple days one way or another matters for the nomination period. Elections are from the 31st. | 16:07 |
| clarkb | persia: I read the election webpage and 24th at 23:45UTC was what I saw | 16:07 |
| clarkb | (so yesterday was correct aiui) | 16:07 |
| persia | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/election/tree/configuration.yaml is the currrent information I have. | 16:08 |
| persia | clarkb: That the date I sent the mail matches the webpage is unsurprising. Whether we merged the right stuff is more complicated. Immediately after my mail it was pointed out that we had mistakenly only provided a 6-month commit window for voter eligibility, whereas we should have provided a 1-year window (this is being addressed). | 16:09 |
| * persia was sadly not paying much attention to election planning before ending up being the only active election official for the start of nominations, so is less uncertain than would be ideal | 16:09 | |
| persia | Err, *more* uncertain (and/or less certain) | 16:09 |
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| zaneb | maybe we could fast-track this completely uncontroversial change https://review.openstack.org/584206 so that tonyb can start helping persia out? | 18:01 |
| cdent | mnaser: ^ ? | 18:05 |
| cdent | zaneb: what about tony's status makes him unable to help persia? | 18:06 |
| zaneb | cdent: he's currently the PTL of (and would be running for PTL again of) the stable team | 18:06 |
| cdent | ah, I see | 18:06 |
| zaneb | stable team has been approved to be a SIG, we just need to make it not a project any more so that he can be an election official | 18:07 |
| zaneb | https://review.openstack.org/584207 | 18:08 |
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| persia | zaneb: In practice, the critical time has passed. Nominations are open, and I've been advised that other officials will become available before nominations close. | 18:21 |
| persia | There have been a couple mistakes in communicatoin, but nothing that breaks anything, and I now expect things to go smoothly. | 18:22 |
| persia | (and I don't think there is really a systemic issue: the chances of two officials being on holiday, a third at the end of extended travel, and a fourth recused is fairly low) | 18:23 |
| persia | I do appreciate the TC raising the issue of elections last week though: without that, there might have been a problem. | 18:23 |
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| mnaser | hi | 19:30 |
| mnaser | thanks for teh ping cdent, reviewing | 19:30 |
| cdent | mnaser: I figure you got the power to make that go, yeah? | 19:30 |
| mnaser | cdent: i do but i need to do my homework to make sure i don't mess up the world from day 1 :> | 19:31 |
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| zaneb | mnaser: where's your sense of adventure? | 19:52 |
| mnaser | zaneb: hah | 19:58 |
| mnaser | tc-members: fast tracked and sent a notification to openstack-dev and openstack-tc | 20:07 |
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| zaneb | persia: ^ | 20:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Remove Stable branch maintenance as a project team https://review.openstack.org/584206 | 20:31 |
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| smcginnis | tonyb: Congrats on no longer being a PTL. :D | 20:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: show the relative earliest date of approval https://review.openstack.org/583953 | 20:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: change format of check_review_status.py output https://review.openstack.org/584123 | 20:41 |
| * mnaser is just trying to get the hang of things so any feedback welcome re: update http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-July/132495.html | 20:41 | |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: add validation for new repositories https://review.openstack.org/583637 | 20:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Clarify new project requirements for community engagement https://review.openstack.org/567944 | 20:42 |
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| tonyb | smcginnis: hehe ;P | 21:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Import ansible-role-tripleo-cookiecutter https://review.openstack.org/581428 | 21:19 |
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| fungi | thanks mnaser! | 22:58 |
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