| diablo_rojo | Voting has begun! All voters have been authorized! Good luck candidates :) | 00:01 |
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| diablo_rojo | Already got 15 votes. | 00:02 |
| * fungi makes that 16 | 00:03 | |
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| fungi | just a heads up that i'm otherwise occupied during this office hour, but if others are around don't let me stop you | 01:02 |
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| dims | thanks diablo_rojo | 01:35 |
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| dangtrinhnt | Hi tc, I'm trying to setup a video conference for the team with zoom but it limits the meeting duration to 40m with my current account. It would be great if you can give me some suggestions. Thanks. | 06:01 |
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| cmurphy | dangtrinhnt: I'm not sure how we can help you, this is the governance discussion channel, we don't have any special powers with zoom and don't generally recommend it as a meeting platform | 08:09 |
| cmurphy | most teams use IRC for meetings https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ChairaMeeting | 08:11 |
| cmurphy | you can set up a meeting by editing the meetings repo https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/CreateaMeeting | 08:12 |
| dangtrinhnt | cmurphy, thanks. We figured that out. | 08:15 |
| cmurphy | dangtrinhnt: great :) | 08:16 |
| dangtrinhnt | about the IRC, how can I have the moderator status on the channel? #openstack-searchlight. I would like to be able to do some commands like notify all :) | 08:16 |
| dangtrinhnt | thanks | 08:17 |
| dangtrinhnt | We have our meeting schedule setup on IRC already. We just want to setup a virtual PTG tomorrow. | 08:18 |
| cmurphy | dangtrinhnt: the documentation around that is here https://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/irc.html I think you'll want to edit https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/accessbot/channels.yaml and add mask: full_mask to the openstack-searchlight entry, best to ask in #openstack-infra though (and usually during north america timezones) | 08:21 |
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| dangtrinhnt | cmurphy, many thanks :) | 09:40 |
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| dims | o/ | 10:33 |
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| mrhillsman | o/ | 12:01 |
| cdent | o/ | 12:03 |
| jroll | \o | 12:04 |
| jroll | mnaser: that is an interesting thread indeed, thanks | 12:04 |
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| mnaser | morning | 12:22 |
| ttx | yeah the -tc list was an attempt to make TC administrativia email more noticeable and avoid adding more emails to the -dev list, back when we had hundreds of emails per day on the -dev ML... Not as much use for it those days | 12:27 |
| ttx | I would say we should merge it with the others, if only to lead by example | 12:28 |
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| ttx | mnaser: re that thread -- I wish the discussion started as a ML thread too, I feel like we are missing some context :) | 12:33 |
| mnaser | ttx: the cncf one? | 12:33 |
| ttx | yes | 12:34 |
| mnaser | i think it sparked off the TOC meeting which i missed | 12:34 |
| ttx | i suspect that started with a video meetinf | 12:34 |
| mnaser | i am fairly confident they record those | 12:34 |
| mnaser | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0-UbzO9_Xk | 12:34 |
| mnaser | they do | 12:34 |
| ttx | I'm also fairly confident I won't spend 53:30 to see when that bit was actually discussed | 12:35 |
| cdent | video is a scourge | 12:35 |
| ttx | mnaser: Do those videos have summaries/minutes pointing to time segments? | 12:35 |
| mnaser | ttx: its roughly the first 22 minutes | 12:37 |
| mnaser | (quick scanning) | 12:37 |
| * ttx sees no summary on the cncf-toc list | 12:37 | |
| ttx | (yet) | 12:37 |
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| dims | mnaser : i've volunteered already for being on wechat groups. no one has added me to anything yet! | 12:51 |
| cmurphy | I think the tc members table and the ptl page is a fine place to start | 12:52 |
| mnaser | dims: i pinged howard and he invited me into one. it's a totally amazing experience seeing all these new faces | 12:52 |
| dims | ttx : yes, it was a great discussion on the toc yesterday. | 12:52 |
| mnaser | with a lot of excitement for openstack | 12:52 |
| mnaser | sure, it's a bit of effort to go with translation but the content and work put out is seriously impressive | 12:53 |
| dims | mnaser : what's your wechat id? | 12:54 |
| mnaser | it's really made me much more excited because i see a whole another community/view that's excited and wants to work on openstack | 12:54 |
| * cmurphy misread dims's message | 12:54 | |
| cmurphy | mnaser: that's awesome | 12:55 |
| mnaser | dims: 'mohost' -- sorry for my lack of creativity | 12:55 |
| mnaser | it really really really was eye opening honestly | 12:55 |
| mnaser | there are these long pieces about openstack, reading them translated but you can tell: people are invested, they care. | 12:55 |
| mnaser | i really wish i could join the new 'opening' of the openstack china presence but prior work engagements :( | 12:56 |
| scas | mnaser: that was my impression when i started analyzing review traffic i started seeing on some of my reviews | 12:56 |
| mnaser | honestly: my first step is to just engage more and try and bridge communities, step 2 is ask for contribution help because i think these are communities that want to help | 12:57 |
| scas | observation seemed, to me, that people both a) wanted to help and 2) did not really know how, which seemed to result to a random +1 on a code review somewhere in gerrit | 13:04 |
| ttx | there is a bit of everything... but a huge potential for us for sure | 13:05 |
| dims | cmurphy : ttx : a couple of sample posts that reflect what mnaser was talking about | 13:09 |
| dims | https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/qZkE4o_BHBPlbIjekjDRKw | 13:09 |
| dims | https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/EbI0NP8lZrVp92wj-VAdwQ | 13:09 |
| dims | throw it into your favorite translator (mine is google translate) | 13:09 |
| cmurphy | dims: are these like blog posts on wechat? or is this a different medium? | 13:11 |
| dims | i usually receive these on wechat. they do have persistent links but not sure when they go away | 13:12 |
| cmurphy | these are really cool | 13:12 |
| dims | ++ cmurphy | 13:13 |
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| jroll | afaik qq is a separate social media network, but it's also owned by tencent | 13:18 |
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| scas | afaik they're all part of one thing | 13:20 |
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| scas | weixin and wechat are analogous, but have their differences | 13:22 |
| jroll | yeah, I'm not sure how much they are integrated now, would make sense | 13:22 |
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| scas | from what i understand, there isn't a stark differentiation like USians have with microblogging versus long-form | 13:24 |
| dims | so ... me and mohammad are on one list now. anyone wants to join this group, please ping one of us or howard | 13:25 |
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| dims | melvin, sean, lance and i joined that wechat group - it's named "Open Source Cloud Hackathon BJ" and has 264 folks on it. | 14:15 |
| cdent | I've made some slight progress on the paste maintenance issue: haypo is able to grant maintainership, but only after we've made a few failed attempts to raise the existing (but stale) maintainer | 14:22 |
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| mnaser | mrhillsman: i think you reply-all to the email about the review rather than post to the review itself :p | 14:36 |
| mnaser | for global reachout thing | 14:36 |
| mnaser | oh you did end up posting it woops | 14:36 |
| mrhillsman | yeah, dhellmann already chastised me | 14:37 |
| mrhillsman | hence my course correction | 14:37 |
| mnaser | :D | 14:46 |
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| dhellmann | mrhillsman : aw, that was supposed to be a nudge not chastising :-/ | 16:12 |
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| mrhillsman | ;) | 16:20 |
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| fungi | mrhillsman: newer gerrit than we're running at the moment will supposedly support commenting on reviews by e-mail, if that helps ;) | 16:36 |
| mrhillsman | good deal, i just replied to the thread without realizing it was a review | 16:50 |
| mrhillsman | that however could make things easier for some I'd expect | 16:50 |
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| fungi | yeah, i expect it'll be an interesting feature, though we'll also need some additional plumbing on the server to support sending messages to the gerrit server once we're running a new enough version to support it | 17:17 |
| smcginnis | fungi: What's the latest upgrade plan? Are we still waiting for an OS update? | 17:22 |
| fungi | no, we got that part out of the way and now just need to decide whether we perform a "fast-forward" upgrade or stop for a while between 2.14 and 2.15 | 17:25 |
| clarkb | and someone has to work through that. It is unfortunately a different upgrade to all the previous ones as we will be migrating into the notedb | 17:26 |
| persia | In fairness, it's "migrating more into the notedb", as the current version stores some limited stuff there and the future version still requires an external database, but big nonetheless. | 17:27 |
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| fungi | mostly concerning the very lengthy outage that migration is likely to require | 18:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/project-team-guide master: Add section on what to do with tox_install.sh https://review.openstack.org/603875 | 19:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/project-team-guide master: Add section on what to do with tox_install.sh https://review.openstack.org/603875 | 19:23 |
| zaneb | seriously considering renaming the Tech Vision document to 'The OpenStack Cloudscape' pls send help | 19:43 |
| fungi | openstack cloud-native landscape complete with logo chart? ;) | 20:06 |
| zaneb | not helping | 20:08 |
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| notmyname | zaneb: I like it better when you think of "landscape" as a verb and then wonder what "to cloudscape" means | 20:37 |
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| persia | zaneb: "OpenStack Cloudscape" has the virtues of being easily comprehended when skimming, and having almost no preexisting semantic mapping when analysing. Much better than "Technical Vision", which appears to mean less when scanning, but exists are a term of art for analysis, and so is confusing to those seeking to consider either of the words alone in semantic terms. | 20:53 |
| fungi | "almost no preexisting semantic mapping" assumes lack of awareness of the existence of https://landscape.cncf.io/ | 21:08 |
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| persia | fungi: I assumed "cloudscape" and "landscape" were sufficiently different. Perhaps not. | 21:40 |
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| fungi | cloud landscape -><- cloudscape | 22:55 |
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