| gmann | TC Office hour time.. | 01:01 |
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| mugsie | o/ | 01:01 |
| zaneb | o/ | 01:01 |
| zaneb | mugsie: didn't expect to see you in this time slot | 01:02 |
| fungi | oh, yep, 'tis indeed | 01:04 |
| fungi | mugsie must enjoy his lack of sleep | 01:04 |
| gmann | or until he is somewhere else :) | 01:06 |
| mugsie | the office :'( | 01:06 |
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| fungi | ouch | 01:23 |
| mugsie | Yeah, the joys of having production | 01:28 |
| gmann | interop-wg ML also merging to new ML - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/interop-wg/2018-December/000259.html | 01:28 |
| persia | Having the opportunity to try it properly, I'm not sure why this time isn't often used by APAC folk. Maybe it should be an hour later (although that might make it even harder for some folk). | 01:30 |
| gmann | this time seems ok for APAC i think. 10 AM in tokyo, 9 AM in china and 12 in Aus, though little early in india 6.30 (but not much traffic from there. I remember we have only NEC india team members working actively in upstream from India) | 01:33 |
| fungi | gmann: yep, as soon as i get another infra-root to approve https://review.openstack.org/619056 i'll shut down the interop-wg ml | 01:34 |
| gmann | fungi: +1. | 01:34 |
| fungi | gmann: we don't have any aptira community members working upstream from india? just australia i guess? | 01:35 |
| gmann | yeah. i think so. | 01:36 |
| gmann | Michael Still mostly | 01:37 |
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| tonyb | dhellmann: done. | 02:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance master: LOCI does not need release management https://review.openstack.org/622902 | 09:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance master: No release management for deprecated repositories https://review.openstack.org/622903 | 09:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance master: Clarify release management for QA deliverables https://review.openstack.org/622904 | 09:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | jacky06 proposed openstack/constellations master: Change openstack-dev to openstack-discuss https://review.openstack.org/622920 | 10:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/constellations master: Change openstack-dev to openstack-discuss https://review.openstack.org/622920 | 11:52 |
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| fungi | update on openstack-discuss mailing list subscriptions... we're up to 547 subscribers now. cross-checking the subscriber list with people who posted to the old lists in 2018, 29% of those addresses have subscribed to the new list; for people who sent 5 or more messages to the old lists 50% have subscribed; 10 or more is at 60%; 20+ is 70%; 50+ is 86% | 13:26 |
| fungi | so fairly good uptake given it's a day after closing the old lists | 13:27 |
| persia | From curiosity, do we have per-cycle turnover numbers in terms of gerrit contributors? My expectation is that the target threshold is probably similar (and I'd be surprised if this was more than 80% or so, based on the summary curves I've seen) | 13:29 |
| fungi | i think ttx may have some numbers around contributor retention | 13:30 |
| fungi | i don't recall them off the top of my head but i know i've seen them in presentations | 13:31 |
| fungi | in the case of ml address skew, a lot of that is probably also exposing people who changed their e-mail addresses at some point in the year | 13:31 |
| fungi | since i don't have a mechanism to tie multiple posting addresses to the same individual | 13:32 |
| fungi | we also almost certainly have a lot of people who subscribed to ask a question, and won't bother to subscribe to the new ml until they have another question to ask | 13:33 |
| fungi | anyway, as far as subscription stats, i'll post something to the ml next week after we've had a little more time for the dust to settle on it | 13:34 |
| fungi | subscriber count is still rising fairly quickly at the moment | 13:34 |
| fungi | one thing i can say though, is that our illustrious tc chair has far outpaced any of the rest of us in terms of number of messages posted to the mailing lists this year | 13:35 |
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| dhellmann | I'm not sure whether to be proud of setting a good example or sad at what that means about how I spend my time | 14:09 |
| fungi | i'm squarely in third place there, so i can sympathize | 14:15 |
| fungi | of the 10 most prolific posters to the openstack, openstack-dev, openstack-discuss, openstack-operators and openstack-sigs lists in 2018, all of them are present in this channel and are either current or former tc members and ptls | 14:20 |
| cdent | that makes plenty of sense | 14:21 |
| fungi | yep | 14:21 |
| fungi | even 10th place has sent right at 200 messages to those lists in aggregate this year | 14:21 |
| dhellmann | TheJulia : thanks for posting http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2018-December/000586.html | 14:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/governance master: add a house rule for the release-management key in projects.yaml https://review.openstack.org/622989 | 14:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/governance master: Clarify wording of Python update resolution https://review.openstack.org/621461 | 15:10 |
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| dhellmann | tc-members: it would be good to have the votes lined up on https://review.openstack.org/621461 so we can merge it along with the main resolution | 15:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/governance master: correct date comparison in check_review_status.py https://review.openstack.org/623000 | 15:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Add stable:follows-policy for cinder deliverables https://review.openstack.org/621164 | 15:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Mark recent Charm deliverables externally-released https://review.openstack.org/620586 | 15:29 |
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| mriedem | so...has anyone heard anything about ATC discounts for the summit? because the ticket prices all went up. and the week got longer for people that normally attend both. | 16:21 |
| mriedem | both = summit + ptg | 16:21 |
| cdent | ttx: ^ ? | 16:22 |
| mriedem | not sure how companies can justify sending developers to both events | 16:24 |
| mriedem | which means picking between forum and ptg | 16:24 |
| mriedem | or just not going to either | 16:24 |
| mriedem | all hail developer-driven mid-cycle meetups again | 16:24 |
| cdent | yeah, is gonna be interesting to see how that plays out | 16:24 |
| * cdent wants hackathons instead | 16:25 | |
| cdent | little ones | 16:25 |
| fungi | there was a pricing error on the combined ticket which got corrected in the last hour or two | 16:33 |
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| fungi | it was us$100 more than the two individual tickets added together when it was just supposed to be the sum of them, i think | 16:33 |
| dhellmann | didn't we just have a summit? are we already buying tickets for the next one? | 16:34 |
| fungi | dhellmann: apparently yes, registration for denver opened yesterday | 16:34 |
| fungi | but yeah, i haven't heard anyone mention a combo ticket discount | 16:34 |
| mriedem | fungi: yeah now the combo ticket is $0 difference from buying separately, which is not much of an incentive for doing both :) | 16:49 |
| mriedem | buy 2 and get none free! | 16:49 |
| fungi | indeed | 16:52 |
| fungi | well, presumably we'll still do discounted/free summit tickets for previous ptg attendees, though i won't pretend to know the details there | 16:53 |
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| TheJulia | dhellmann: sorry it has taken so long... vacation seemingly derailed the universe on me | 17:07 |
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| dhellmann | TheJulia : no worries, I know how that goes | 18:00 |
| dhellmann | I lost most of last week to being sick, myself, so I think vacation derailing things sounds pretty nice in comparison :-) | 18:01 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: I've been since since thanksgiving. It will not go away and is really annoying | 18:03 |
| dhellmann | that's when mine started, too | 18:04 |
| dhellmann | I was blaming Heathrow, but maybe we caught the same virus in berlin | 18:04 |
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| clarkb | dhellmann: (and the TC and anyone else interested) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/623033/1 is a first draft for a spec that outlines what the git hosting under opendev will look like | 18:16 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: iirc at the summit you asked to be kept informed of that so here you go. Once its in a state closer to being merged I'll share it more broadly on the -discuss list too | 18:16 |
| dhellmann | I'm reading this and thinking about peer/code review https://www.fastcompany.com/3027135/inside-the-pixar-braintrust | 18:19 |
| dhellmann | clarkb : thanks for the heads-up | 18:19 |
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| mriedem | is tricircle a tc-approved / managed project anymore? or should we not care about the upgrade-checkers goal for that one anymore? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/615470/ | 20:25 |
| mriedem | i guess it's still listed https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/projects/tricircle.html | 20:26 |
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| jroll | mriedem: doesn't look super active, maybe the cores haven't seen that patch? | 20:28 |
| jroll | or the one core, judging by recent merges | 20:29 |
| jroll | s/seen/had time to look at/ | 20:29 |
| mriedem | yeah idk, that's not a huge deal | 20:29 |
| mriedem | anywho | 20:29 |
| smcginnis | Uh oh, didn't realize I got assigned that project for health tracking. | 20:31 |
| smcginnis | Last update didn't look great - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_health_tracker#Tricircle | 20:31 |
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| fungi | most recent activity ni their deliverables looks related to python 3 testing and the neutron-lib transition? | 21:00 |
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