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| fungi | looks like it's office hour again | 01:05 |
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| smcginnis | As hoppin' as usual. :) | 01:07 |
| gmann | o/ | 01:08 |
| fungi | indeed | 01:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Liam Young proposed openstack/governance master: New charms & interface for Masakari integration https://review.openstack.org/649598 | 12:48 |
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| evrardjp | gmann mnaser: about the ipv6 goal, are there many things you think we should prepare before the PTG? | 16:19 |
| evrardjp | I guess we should at least have that goal code reviewed and merged :) | 16:21 |
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| gmann | evrardjp: yeah, before that we need to fi alize the scope of that goal and champion. | 16:34 |
| gmann | finalize | 16:34 |
| evrardjp | indeed | 16:34 |
| evrardjp | do you have an idea of the potential champions, and the scope of the work? | 16:34 |
| gmann | champions not yet, may be if ask on ML then we can find someone | 16:35 |
| gmann | scope of work, i can start the draft something on etherpad and then we can take that to ML. | 16:36 |
| gmann | main idea is to have a inetgration job testing with ipv6 only setting on project side | 16:37 |
| gmann | so that we at least find the potential bugs and avoid regresssion in future | 16:37 |
| evrardjp | gmann: lbragstad and I are writing an email for the ML so we can include that now | 16:37 |
| gmann | evrardjp: perfect | 16:37 |
| fungi | related, should we be considering migration from rootwrap to privsep a cycle goal? it affects a bunch of teams and has been lingering in various states of incompletion for some time | 16:39 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 16:40 |
| smcginnis | It's an important security concern. | 16:41 |
| fungi | worries are 1. it may not affect *enough* teams to make it a widely-applicable goal, and 2. it may encompass more work than some teams can complete in a single cycle | 16:41 |
| fungi | though if we stage it as multiple goals similar to the steps outlined in the nova thread, maybe they're individually achievable in different cycles like the python3 goals | 16:42 |
| evrardjp | I have taken the position in the past to not be concerned about not affecting enough teams, but it seems ppl care about that -- I guess it depends on what we consider goals, "community goals" , pop up teams... | 16:43 |
| evrardjp | I think that's a great "goal" | 16:44 |
| lbragstad | i'd need to get up to speed on the privsep discussion, but if we can break it into smaller goals, that would be awesome | 16:45 |
| fungi | i tried to drum up some interest in it from the security sig, but there's just not that many active members with free time on their hands i don't think... i can try to highlight it in the security sig meeting tomorrow | 16:46 |
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| lbragstad | cool | 16:46 |
| evrardjp | that would be great fungi | 16:46 |
| evrardjp | if not a "community goal", I think it would be a great thing to implement as a community, and which should be raised in prios accordingly | 16:47 |
| lbragstad | mnaser gmann do you have a link to the ipv6 testing job? | 16:48 |
| lbragstad | for the possible ipv6 goal? | 16:49 |
| fungi | i've added the privsep thread to the security sig meeting agenda | 16:50 |
| gmann | lbragstad: this is devstack base job which set the SERVICE_IP_VERSION=6 https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/683454f319246c3bda088b5e0325c5673263ce08/.zuul.yaml#L486 | 16:50 |
| lbragstad | aha - devstack-ipv6 | 16:51 |
| * gmann and this is tempest ipv6 job running test againd it - https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/3639f91c36dbbcc8ecf9373aeb0cec83af468b81/.zuul.yaml#L175 | 16:51 | |
| gmann | this is tempest ipv6 job running test againd it - https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/3639f91c36dbbcc8ecf9373aeb0cec83af468b81/.zuul.yaml#L175 | 16:51 |
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| gmann | lbragstad: evrardjp i am thinking tempest-full version of ipv6 is enough to test or we need more jobs | 16:52 |
| evrardjp | k | 16:52 |
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| gmann | specially for more projects what they run as integration job that can be one for upv6 only | 16:52 |
| lbragstad | gmann so - it's a matter of running that job against projects and making sure it's voting | 16:53 |
| gmann | lbragstad: yeah. | 16:54 |
| gmann | i am thinking that ipv6 only job should be zuulv3 native job. for legacy we might then need to provide the base job ? | 16:55 |
| evrardjp | why should we care about legacy? :p | 16:56 |
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| gmann | but base job would not fit for all projects as not all projects are devstack-base job based | 16:56 |
| gmann | evrardjp: there are many projects have their integrated jobs as legacy one only. | 16:56 |
| evrardjp | I think that is what the community goal could cover? | 16:56 |
| evrardjp | gmann: sorry let me rephrase... | 16:57 |
| gmann | it can be, i raised that in last meeting but did not much response :) moving legacy jobs to zuulv3 native | 16:57 |
| evrardjp | Why would it be a problem if some extra jobs are thrown into the mix? | 16:57 |
| evrardjp | sorry if I am confused here | 16:58 |
| gmann | you mean new ipv6 jobs? | 16:58 |
| evrardjp | I mean, we could add new jobs on top of existing legacy jobs, right? | 16:58 |
| evrardjp | I think the problem is not the jobs, but the manpower to move to zuul v3 native jobs, is that what you mean? | 16:59 |
| evrardjp | (for the integrated) | 16:59 |
| gmann | evrardjp: yes for first one. that need more effort but ok. | 16:59 |
| evrardjp | I am maybe too tired to understand things ... I probably need to shut down the computer now | 17:00 |
| evrardjp | :D | 17:00 |
| gmann | at the end what i wanted is, we have project-ipv6-only job derived from single devstack-base-ip6 job | 17:00 |
| evrardjp | got it now | 17:00 |
| gmann | i actually had little more thing for train so wanted some other volutneer :) but let me draft the goal on gerrit and then we see how it goes. | 17:01 |
| gmann | hope i can always get more other co-volutneer | 17:01 |
| evrardjp | maybe the ML call will help gather troops | 17:02 |
| gmann | evrardjp: lbragstad when is the deadline for email you will send for L198 | 17:02 |
| evrardjp | I think lbragstad is sending it now :) | 17:03 |
| evrardjp | it's fine we can iterate over the ML | 17:03 |
| lbragstad | gmann evrardjp sent | 17:03 |
| lbragstad | i didn't propose a hard deadline in the email | 17:03 |
| fungi | this makes moving off legacy jobs to zuul v3 native jobs look like an increasingly attractive cycle goal on its own | 17:03 |
| evrardjp | fungi: agreed | 17:03 |
| evrardjp | again, community goal? | 17:03 |
| gmann | fungi: +1 | 17:03 |
| fungi | because we keep having discussions about how to cater to jobs which haven't been replaced in the ~18 months zuul v3 has been up in production | 17:04 |
| gmann | true, it will make life easy for everyone. specially when we need to update distro etc | 17:05 |
| evrardjp | I am off for today, have a good day everyone | 17:05 |
| fungi | enjoy your evening! | 17:06 |
| gmann | evrardjp: take rest :) | 17:06 |
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| mnaser | fungi: wow, zuulv3 has been here for 18 months already | 17:36 |
| mnaser | time flies | 17:36 |
| fungi | since late 2017, yeah | 17:39 |
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| fungi | tc-members: i've added a draft e-mail with our community's feedback on the kata containers project at the bottom of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-tc-kata-confirmation-feedback | 20:15 |
| fungi | still assembling the zuul one | 20:15 |
| smcginnis | Thanks fungi, that will be useful. | 20:21 |
| dhellmann | thanks, fungi , that looks good | 20:22 |
| gmann | fungi: +1, thanks | 20:24 |
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| fungi | and i have the zuul one written now too, just need this already-several-hour charter/spectrum broadband outage to end so the computer i wrote it on can get to the etherpad server again to paste it in | 22:53 |
| fungi | i guess if it goes on much longer i'll scp it to the machine tethered to my cellular modem and paste it that way | 22:54 |
| fungi | eventually i'll work out how to turn this cell modem into a backup internet connection for my home firewall | 22:54 |
| fungi | tc-members: i gave up waiting for my terrible island broadband to recover and pasted the draft feedback e-mail on zuul at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-tc-zuul-confirmation-feedback | 23:45 |
| gmann | fungi: looks nice, thansk again. | 23:50 |
| fungi | my pleasure! | 23:51 |
| fungi | we should probably aim to have our illustrious tc chair send those to the foundation ml tomorrow if he has time | 23:51 |
| fungi | that's the same day the kata and zuul projects are providing the advance copies of their slide decks to the board members, so timing is good | 23:52 |
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