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| gmann | o/ | 01:03 |
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| gmann | TC office hour.. | 01:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Add documentation owners investment opportunity for 2019 https://review.opendev.org/681480 | 05:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Add Goal Champions investment opportunity for 2019 https://review.opendev.org/680985 | 05:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Add community infra investment opportunity for 2019 https://review.opendev.org/681260 | 05:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Post TC-election info-sheet https://review.opendev.org/683432 | 05:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Add ``charm-neutron-api-plugin-ovn`` charm https://review.opendev.org/687926 | 05:36 |
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| njohnston | o/ | 07:46 |
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| ttx | mugsie, evrardjp_ : would you be OK with moving the TC dinner from Monday to Tuesday or Wednesday ? Please answer to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PVG-TC-PTG | 08:08 |
| ttx | zaneb: We know you're OK for Tuesday... Would you be OK for Wednesday ? jungleboyj can't make Tuesday | 08:09 |
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| asettle | o/ | 08:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Arne Wiebalck proposed openstack/governance-sigs master: Add new chairs for the Baremetal SIG https://review.opendev.org/690519 | 09:04 |
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| mugsie | ttx: voted - I am OK with it | 10:03 |
| mugsie | either* | 10:03 |
| ttx | thx | 10:04 |
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| jungleboyj | o/ | 13:10 |
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| ttx | zaneb, evrardjp_ ? | 14:46 |
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| jungleboyj | ttx: Like I said, if I am the one outlier it isn't a big deal. | 14:57 |
| ttx | There might be some kind of RDO party in the works for Wednesday. | 15:02 |
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| gmann | o/ | 16:43 |
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| diablo_rojo | o/ | 17:21 |
| gmann | tc-members: we got the volunteer to Champion the zuulv3 migration goal. thanks to tosky for volunteer. | 17:26 |
| gmann | ML thread is already started to get the initial feedback. | 17:26 |
| ricolin | that's great news! thanks tosky! | 17:26 |
| gmann | out of three goal proposal, we have two proposal with champion and ready to start the discussion. diablo_rojo and tosky will be defining the goal with more details in gerrit goal/proposed/ folder | 17:29 |
| diablo_rojo | Yep! Its on my todo list. | 17:31 |
| diablo_rojo | Was giving people a little while to reply on the thread before I got started but its been crickets out there | 17:32 |
| gmann | +1 | 17:36 |
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| tosky | let's see what I can produce :) | 17:48 |
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| gmann | tc-members: we have not updated the ussuri template on projects side and they are still running the train template (openstack-python3-train-jobs). is release bot automation ready or we should do manual update like we did in train and finish the automation of those for V ? | 18:14 |
| ricolin | Got same question too, I saw some manual patches like https://review.opendev.org/#/c/689978/ around already. will be nice if we can do it automatically | 18:17 |
| zaneb | gmann: I think evrardjp_ is working on it | 18:17 |
| zaneb | AIUI the plan is to propose the automatically some time during U | 18:18 |
| zaneb | mugsie mentioned that things got held up because https://review.opendev.org/685453 didn't exist yet, but it does now | 18:19 |
| gmann | zaneb: ok. because as part of py2.7 drop one of the option of smooth migration is updating the ussuri template to include the pep8 job (L61) -https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/drop-python2-support | 18:19 |
| gmann | and if we have ussuri template running on project side will help that | 18:20 |
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| gmann | because we cannot change the "openstack-python-jobs" template to drop the py2.7 job as this is sued by stable branches and might required by projects who want to keep py27 support. | 18:21 |
| gmann | *used | 18:21 |
| zaneb | yep, I think that was me that suggested just adding the pep8 job to that template | 18:21 |
| * zaneb goes to vote on the review | 18:22 | |
| gmann | +1, thanks | 18:22 |
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| zaneb | so once that merges we can tell people that they can drop the python-openstack-jobs but they must make sure they've updated from train->ussuri python3 jobs as well if nothing else has done it for them | 18:27 |
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| gmann | yeah. along with that other suggestion and plan (for py2.7 integration jobs etc )after finalizing tomorrow, we can compose a consolidated goal with all those what to do, what not to do (at least clear guidelines). | 18:34 |
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| evrardjp_ | ttx: sorry I was away. Far away from a computer. For dinner, anything goes, I will make myself available. | 22:16 |
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| evrardjp_ | zaneb: the plan is to make sure a new release automatically proposes the move to new template in the master branch. However, it means that release names and a few other stuff have to happen before this step. We didn't get the chance to do it on time for ussuri (the current master). I didn't tackle this further. | 22:19 |
| zaneb | evrardjp_: any reason we can't just run it now? | 22:19 |
| evrardjp_ | this is a release proposal bot, so it has some kind of assumptions of when it runs | 22:20 |
| evrardjp_ | however it was a simple sed. | 22:20 |
| evrardjp_ | I assumed we can just run the equivalent shell script in all projects super simply | 22:20 |
| evrardjp_ | assume* | 22:20 |
| zaneb | I think coreycb had some scripts in the goals repo for doing that | 22:21 |
| evrardjp_ | "Run this to migrate your jobs for ussuri. In the future, a proposal bot will do that for you" | 22:21 |
| zaneb | (note that it won't always be a simple sed, though it is this time) | 22:21 |
| evrardjp_ | it's about midnight and I am jetlagged as hell... Could you explain why it wouldn't always be a simple sed? | 22:22 |
| evrardjp_ | Because the content of the template is us to decide, so I would expect teams then decide what to do with it | 22:22 |
| evrardjp_ | (and not the tc) | 22:22 |
| zaneb | if we add new versions of python then we'll also need to update tox.ini, setup.cfg | 22:22 |
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| zaneb | so I guess several simple seds | 22:23 |
| evrardjp_ | indeed | 22:23 |
| zaneb | a complex sed, if you will | 22:23 |
| evrardjp_ | I am not sure which approach I took on this script but we can surely iterate | 22:23 |
| coreycb | zaneb: btw we're getting a backport of python3.8 to bionic. is it too late to add that to ussuri supported pythons? | 22:23 |
| coreycb | it's going to be the default for 20.04 | 22:24 |
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| evrardjp_ | coreycb: I think that would be out of policy, but policy can be changed. | 22:25 |
| evrardjp_ | I am sorry I missed the tc feedback for Airship. Great that you all worked it out :) Good team! | 22:26 |
| evrardjp_ | It seems I have caught up the pings, tomorrow I will tackle the rest. Thanks team! | 22:29 |
| coreycb | evrardjp_: yeah I'm afraid of that. have a good night. | 22:31 |
| evrardjp_ | coreycb: you shouldn't be afraid of that | 22:31 |
| evrardjp_ | it's fine to change this | 22:32 |
| evrardjp_ | we just have to understand how this would work out :) | 22:32 |
| evrardjp_ | (because we can't plan things like that in the future I guess) | 22:32 |
| evrardjp_ | coreycb: however if at the same time, everyone pushes code to remove py2.7 I wouldn't expect ppl to use the latest and greatest of 3.8 yet. But I might be wrong. | 22:33 |
| fungi | you could argue that with 3.8 available in bionic, which is a target platform for ussuri, it's a reasonable interpreter to include | 22:34 |
| evrardjp_ | coreycb: if you want to change the PTI to, for example, adding the latest released python, I wouldn't mind | 22:34 |
| gmann | zaneb: evrardjp_ ok. I am going to do it ussuri template update as part of py2 drop patches and in V it can be part of release bot. | 22:34 |
| evrardjp_ | but that's me personally | 22:34 |
| fungi | granted python 3.8 wasn't even released until after the start of the ussuri development cycle | 22:34 |
| fungi | so that's an aggressive support timeline (not that i'd oppose it) | 22:35 |
| evrardjp_ | gmann: that sounds great! it might be worth syncing on how you do it, so we can include this in the releasing | 22:35 |
| evrardjp_ | fungi: I think we think alike here. | 22:35 |
| coreycb | from our end we'll be supporting ussuri on 3.8 for 5 years | 22:36 |
| coreycb | On 20.04 that is | 22:36 |
| evrardjp_ | I should go to sleep now. My brain says I should, my body doesn't :p | 22:36 |
| evrardjp_ | I will read you all tomorrow. | 22:36 |
| evrardjp_ | y'all* | 22:36 |
| evrardjp_ | haha | 22:36 |
| evrardjp_ | (not the whole scrollback!) | 22:36 |
| coreycb | :) I'll revisit tomorrow as well | 22:36 |
| evrardjp_ | coreycb: that's awesome | 22:37 |
| evrardjp_ | but also scary for the future :p | 22:37 |
| evrardjp_ | 5 years | 22:37 |
| fungi | coreycb: just making sure (i expect you already are), but recall that ussuri won't even release until roughly a month after ubuntu 20.04 | 22:37 |
| fungi | ...on the topic of aggressive support timelines | 22:38 |
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| fungi | is the plan to include a ussuri snapshot in 20.04, or to backport openstack ussuri to 20.04? | 22:38 |
| coreycb | fungi: yeah... that is something we need to figure out | 22:38 |
| fungi | ahh, okay. as long as you're aware ;) | 22:38 |
| fungi | you know the inner workings there far better than i | 22:39 |
| coreycb | fungi: not sure yet. just taking a post train breath. :) | 22:39 |
| fungi | you're not the only one! ;) | 22:39 |
| coreycb | fungi: lol I'm sure a lot of us feel that way | 22:40 |
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