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| njohnston | o/ | 13:23 |
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| evrardjp | o/ | 14:10 |
| evrardjp | when I see ppl waving, I have to wave back. | 14:10 |
| smcginnis | https://media.giphy.com/media/ibq9Jyb7Y7NwUWu3kc/giphy.gif | 14:20 |
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| smcginnis | Final last call for naming votes. Published close was yesterday. I'll wait until the top of the hour for any last minute votes, but then close the polling and get the results. | 14:32 |
| ttx | tc-members ^ | 14:45 |
| asettle | Cool cool | 14:45 |
| * njohnston voted already | 14:45 | |
| * jungleboyj voted and anxiously awaits the results. :-) | 14:46 | |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Nice wave. | 14:47 |
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| zaneb | before we look at the results, should we discuss how we want to break the inevitable tie? | 15:23 |
| zaneb | same method as for elections? (which basically ends up as a coin toss eventually) | 15:24 |
| smcginnis | Just ended the poll. Actually, no tie. This time we have a clear winner. | 15:25 |
| smcginnis | And I wouldn't expect it to have any trademark conflicts either. | 15:25 |
| mugsie | \o/ | 15:25 |
| zaneb | wow | 15:25 |
| zaneb | I hope it's not "Wow" | 15:25 |
| smcginnis | Haha, nope. | 15:26 |
| smcginnis | https://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_60b98f102c5d08d5 | 15:26 |
| zaneb | nice | 15:26 |
| smcginnis | I can live with that. Think I like Whistler better, but Wallaby isn't bad at all. | 15:26 |
| jungleboyj | Yay! | 15:27 |
| jungleboyj | The people who voted on my Twitter poll will be happy! | 15:28 |
| zaneb | I'm sad that Waka didn't win but Wallaby was my second choice :) | 15:29 |
| fungi | fozzie bear will be disappointed | 15:30 |
| smcginnis | Could have had Mirantis get a bear on stage again. :D | 15:31 |
| zaneb | well, as a Kiwi it was kind of compulsory for me to vote for that ;) | 15:31 |
| ttx | I blame jungleboyj | 15:32 |
| smcginnis | I will send the results to the Foundation and have the final review done. Based on last time, that probably means 2-4 weeks and we can officially announce the W name. | 15:32 |
| smcginnis | But I'm feeling pretty confident about Wallaby. | 15:33 |
| fungi | and ubuntu hasn't done a wallaby yet, so i guess we're in the clear ;) | 15:34 |
| jungleboyj | It is ok to share the preliminary results though ... right? | 15:34 |
| jungleboyj | Or do I need to go delete my tweet. :-) | 15:34 |
| zaneb | lol | 15:34 |
| ttx | Looks like a good compromise | 15:34 |
| fungi | should be, just don't declare they're final until they've passed osf trademark search/legal review | 15:34 |
| jungleboyj | Right. I noted it was pending legal review. | 15:34 |
| jungleboyj | *phew* | 15:35 |
| jungleboyj | I think it is a good result. | 15:35 |
| ttx | Of course YOU do | 15:35 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Of course, always safest to wait until it's final. | 15:36 |
| jungleboyj | I will delete it for now to avoid trouble. | 15:36 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 15:37 |
| evrardjp | haha | 15:37 |
| jungleboyj | It was never there and you never saw it. | 15:37 |
| evrardjp | an incentive to follow what's going on in #openstack-tc and not twitter! :p | 15:38 |
| * zaneb saw it | 15:38 | |
| evrardjp | ofc you did | 15:38 |
| jungleboyj | What evrardjp said. Stalker. | 15:38 |
| smcginnis | So if we *do* end up with a legal reason preventing us from using Wallaby, we can all blame jungleboyj. | 15:38 |
| * jungleboyj glares at smcginnis | 15:39 | |
| zaneb | for the ensuing riot | 15:39 |
| evrardjp | hahahahah | 15:39 |
| mnaser | smcginnis: thank you very much for taking care of this by the way. | 15:39 |
| jungleboyj | Hey, then ttx would be happy that we could look at other names. | 15:39 |
| evrardjp | jungleboyj: do you have lawyers in your family? | 15:39 |
| jungleboyj | mnaser: ++ | 15:39 |
| jungleboyj | evrardjp: No, but I have one if I need it. ;-) | 15:39 |
| evrardjp | yeah thanks smcginnis! | 15:39 |
| mnaser | it's a non-trivial amount of effort and i appreciate you driving it forward | 15:39 |
| zaneb | smcginnis: yes, many thanks! | 15:39 |
| smcginnis | mnaser: No problem! Just glad to get a name to use so we don't have to just call it "the W release" forever. | 15:39 |
| zaneb | this actually went a lot smoother than I expected | 15:40 |
| evrardjp | maybe we should go on and figure out the next x release names, and be done with it? :p | 15:40 |
| jungleboyj | zaneb: ++ | 15:40 |
| evrardjp | zaneb: well that was the point of the move, wasn't it? | 15:40 |
| smcginnis | evrardjp: Don't think I haven't already thought about it. ;) | 15:40 |
| evrardjp | well | 15:40 |
| evrardjp | some of it | 15:40 |
| zaneb | it's also really interesting looking at Condorcet voting strategies with names attached :) | 15:41 |
| evrardjp | smcginnis: you mean that's a subject for IDEAS? | 15:41 |
| evrardjp | wow | 15:41 |
| zaneb | lol that mnaser voted straight "don't care" :D | 15:41 |
| mnaser | ouch i got exposed | 15:41 |
| mnaser | yeah i really didnt want to be involved in the naming, but didnt want to let it run forever | 15:41 |
| zaneb | that's a fair position to take | 15:42 |
| evrardjp | yeah I hesitated to do that tbh. Then I realise that there are things we probably don't want in. | 15:43 |
| mnaser | i trusted the rest of the tc personally ;) | 15:44 |
| mnaser | anyhow | 15:44 |
| mnaser | i've been hacking here on my little project.. | 15:44 |
| smcginnis | A vote of "whatever everyone else prefers" is totally legitimate to me. | 15:45 |
| evrardjp | I didn't say otherwise. | 15:46 |
| jungleboyj | Good to see no one voted for Wuhan. Think that was the right choice. | 15:46 |
| evrardjp | I maybe have less trust in "ppl will do the right thing". I am becoming older I guess. | 15:46 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 15:46 |
| zaneb | jungleboyj: apart from rico who ranked it first? | 15:46 |
| ttx | Now X will be a lot funnier | 15:47 |
| ttx | Can't wait for it | 15:47 |
| evrardjp | I am not sure we need to analyse these results tbh. | 15:47 |
| mnaser | x-gon-give-it-ya | 15:47 |
| evrardjp | I will definitely not do it. | 15:47 |
| jungleboyj | *Luaghing* | 15:47 |
| evrardjp | didn't get the joke | 15:48 |
| smcginnis | evrardjp: We don't _need_ to. But we can. | 15:48 |
| smcginnis | :) | 15:48 |
| evrardjp | feel free :p | 15:48 |
| jungleboyj | evrardjp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMf7WyKwHbw | 15:49 |
| jungleboyj | Wow, guess I never heard the uncensored version. Wow. | 15:50 |
| evrardjp | it was definitely missing in my culture | 15:50 |
| * jungleboyj continues to bridge the cultural barriers. | 15:51 | |
| evrardjp | and yes, that was sarcasm if you didn't catch it :p | 15:51 |
| evrardjp | but thanks jungleboyj! | 15:51 |
| smcginnis | evrardjp: Missing from my culture too. :) | 15:51 |
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| jungleboyj | evrardjp: Yeah, I caught the sarcasm. | 15:59 |
| jungleboyj | mnaser: Started it. ;-) | 16:00 |
| evrardjp | :D | 16:01 |
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| jroll | wooo wallaby | 16:03 |
| jroll | thanks for running the poll, smcginnis :) | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | Happy to do it. | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | I do kind of like this process now. | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | Seemed to work well opening the name up to anywhere/anything. | 16:04 |
| * jroll notes the TC generally prefers whisky over whiskey, this will be useful for future meetings :P | 16:04 | |
| * fungi prefers rye | 16:15 | |
| * njohnston is more of a cream soda man | 16:16 | |
| njohnston | That's excellent news about Wallaby - thanks smcginnis for making this process run so smoothly! | 16:19 |
| clarkb | jroll: I think the results show irish whiskey wins over scotch. | 16:21 |
| fungi | we do have strong evidence to that effect, thanks to all getting snowed in for a week | 16:27 |
| fungi | we saw what the hotel bar ran out of fastest | 16:27 |
| fungi | if only someone had taken notes, that would make a fine research paper | 16:28 |
| jroll | I feel like those are biased results, we need to recreate the experiment in kentucky, canada, and scotland | 16:28 |
| fungi | also kyoto, just because | 16:28 |
| jroll | ++ | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | For the sake of science. | 16:28 |
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| gmann | +1. thanks smcginnis for the good job. I decided not to participate in vote (still with my preference to have community voting :) ) but respecting what TC voted :) \o/ | 16:42 |
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| jungleboyj | +2 to recreating the Whiskey experiment for science. :-) | 17:17 |
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| diablo_rojo | If we could get some TC eyes on this it would help things move along a little faster: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/708470/ | 18:03 |
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| gmann | diablo_rojo: seems TC election dates are going later than R-4. | 18:27 |
| gmann | as per latest charter we should conduct election between R6- R4 - https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/charter.html#election-for-tc-seats | 18:28 |
| diablo_rojo | gmann, I think that takes effect for the next release, not the current one. | 18:31 |
| diablo_rojo | We made that change as a result of this coming election's projected dated I think? | 18:31 |
| diablo_rojo | Previous it was 6 weeks before the summit | 18:31 |
| diablo_rojo | But that needed to change for all kinds of reasons. | 18:31 |
| fungi | but still wouldn't be terrible to meet that suggestion, since it also gets ptl elections (for any teams with a contested seat) out of the way before victoria development opens on master branches of service projects (rc1 week) | 18:32 |
| gmann | i think from this cycle. and we can still hold combine election as PTL election can be any time before R-3. | 18:34 |
| gmann | because if we consider that change from next term then we might have TC terms issues extended for one more cycle. | 18:35 |
| fungi | right, the terms for ussuri seats expire at the 12 month default from the osf bylaws as well | 18:38 |
| fungi | we're declaring in advance that the victoria seats will have a variable term length to cover any float come "x" cycle elections | 18:39 |
| diablo_rojo | So then we want to bump the dates back how many weeks? | 18:51 |
| diablo_rojo | two? three? | 18:51 |
| fungi | even one week would be enough to satisfy the charter change, but that's still 40 days without quorum | 18:58 |
| gmann | yeah, one week should be enough. | 19:08 |
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| aprice | jungleboyj: circling back on your user survey request the other day, here is the data for the 2019 user survey of % of users saying they are using a particular project: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12UubrdPXAqMLIydjcgtiZ5mLqMejMxFg5Py1fvIMjls/edit?usp=sharing | 19:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/governance master: Clarify doc locations in U goal https://review.opendev.org/709617 | 21:46 |
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