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openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/governance master: Clarify doc locations in U goal https://review.opendev.org/709617 | 01:54 |
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jungleboyj | aprice: Thank you. That will be helpful and as we talked about in PM, I can keep you updated on what happens with that document and if there are related blogs you want, etc. I am happy to help. | 03:26 |
aprice | jungleboyj: awesome - thank you! I’ll keep an eye on the content as it gets further along | 03:27 |
jungleboyj | Sounds good. :-) | 03:27 |
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evrardjp | tc-members and others, if you intend to join the TC room during the OpenDev Vancouver event, please tell us so on the ML! :) | 08:39 |
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ttx | o/ | 09:02 |
evrardjp | o/ | 09:04 |
evrardjp | I am not asking a committment on the ML, just a guesstimate if you would come or not | 09:04 |
ttx | NB: I'll be taking some time off next week -- is that when the monthlyTC meeting is planned ? | 09:05 |
ricolin | o/ | 09:14 |
ricolin | evrardjp, just replied | 09:14 |
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evrardjp | that sounds like it ttx | 09:21 |
evrardjp | which reminds me that we need to send the agenda | 09:21 |
ttx | noted! Have a good one :) | 09:25 |
evrardjp | ttx: feel free to update the agenda if there is something you wanted to report | 09:26 |
evrardjp | that's not on the ML ofc | 09:26 |
evrardjp | or better, feel free to post on the ML some kind of report, and we'll report/talk about your report | 09:27 |
evrardjp | so meta | 09:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ideas master: Small cleanups https://review.opendev.org/709299 | 09:38 |
mnaser | i should be in the tc room at opendev | 09:50 |
evrardjp | thanks mnaser | 10:22 |
ttx | posted the public TC/UC thread after discussion with UC members: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-February/012806.html | 10:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance master: Guidelines for dropping project teams https://review.opendev.org/707421 | 11:02 |
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evrardjp | thanks ttx for updating the wiki | 11:44 |
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zaneb | evrardjp: undecided, but leaning towards no with this whole coronavirus thing | 14:22 |
openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance master: OpenStack-Helm does not require release management https://review.opendev.org/705783 | 14:30 |
gmann | o/ | 14:50 |
gmann | evrardjp: i will be there. | 14:51 |
evrardjp | zaneb: yeah we need to take precautions in those kind of numbers, even more when there are these kind of sad events | 14:53 |
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zaneb | yeah, I'm assuming that old people and very young people are going to be most vulnerable. I'll leave it to you to decide which of those I'd be most concerned about ;) | 14:58 |
smcginnis | LF sent out a nice statement for some of their upcoming events that they will be sanitizing surfaces frequently, mics between speakers, and encouraging a "no handshakes" policy. Might be good if we do the same. | 14:59 |
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ttx | I'll pass the suggestion on | 15:57 |
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johnsom | FYI, the new "CII" badge doesn't link to the CII website like the governance patch implied. It links to the OpenStack TC tags page which doesn't list it. | 18:21 |
johnsom | Example: https://github.com/openstack/octavia/blob/master/README.rst | 18:21 |
johnsom | Actually, the community project tag doesn't land where it was intended either. | 18:25 |
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johnsom | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2007339 | 18:27 |
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fungi | none of those tags link to distinct places, they just all link to the tag index | 18:29 |
fungi | i also have no idea what "community project" and "cii best practices" mean in that context | 18:30 |
* fungi resorts to a git blame | 18:30 | |
fungi | oh, right, that tag block is all a single image anyway | 18:32 |
fungi | so without some sort of fancy js or xhtml link mapping, which i doubt github readme rendering would support, we can't link different parts of the image to different urls | 18:32 |
fungi | those two new badges were added to the image by https://review.opendev.org/695908 | 18:33 |
fungi | aha! | 18:36 |
fungi | it's svg, and uses a xlink:href property for each element | 18:36 |
fungi | so that may depend on browser support | 18:36 |
fungi | if i "open image in a new tab" then firefox links away to the different places correctly | 18:37 |
mugsie | https://opendev.org/openstack/octavia/blame/branch/master/README.rst#L5-L6 | 18:38 |
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mugsie | the image is a link on its own | 18:38 |
fungi | but in the context of the surrounding readme.rst rendering, the image is surrounded by an <a href="..."> yeah | 18:39 |
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fungi | so that seems to take precedence | 18:39 |
johnsom | Yeah, just noticed it goes to a page that doesn't explain it on Chrome.... | 18:39 |
mugsie | yeah, it will wrap the image in a href | 18:40 |
fungi | so we could drop the outer link for the object, and then browsers with svg support will likely link to the correct places, but we lose any overall linkaway from that object for browsers which don't support xlink:href in svg | 18:40 |
fungi | probably a reasonable tradeoff | 18:41 |
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fungi | looks like the behavior is the same where opendev.org renders it too | 18:42 |
fungi | unfortunately, the "fix" has to be done in each individual project's readme | 18:43 |
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fungi | (remove the :target: attribute from the image directive) | 18:43 |
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smcginnis | I thought the idea was to show the badge reflecting the projects state, but have it link to the main place where they are defined. | 18:48 |
* smcginnis hasn't looked closely | 18:48 | |
mugsie | smcginnis: we added badges that don't relate to the tags, under the assumption that the svg links would work I think | 18:52 |
fungi | smcginnis: i agree that seems to have been the desire, but the effect is that the outer hyperlink is what browsers wind up following for a click anywhere on the image region, and so they ignore the embedded links within the image subregions | 18:52 |
smcginnis | Ah | 18:53 |
fungi | there might be hacky ways to get browsers which support in-svg links to prefer those over the html level hyperlink, but i have no idea what that might be | 18:54 |
fungi | and given the audience, i have a feeling dropping the html level hyperlink will probably still work for a lot of folks, but also will be less confusing for everyone whether it's supported in their browser or not (browsers lacking support are either not showing that image anyway, or are just treating it like an image and nothing clickable, which seems a reasonable compromise) | 18:55 |
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fungi | (at least compared to linking the image to a generic url which isn't applicable to some of the badges displayed within it) | 18:56 |
openstackgerrit | Kendall Nelson proposed openstack/election master: Set Victoria configuration https://review.opendev.org/708470 | 18:57 |
gmann | i think 'community project' is TC governed projects but no idea on what is 'cii best practices' | 18:58 |
gmann | having link to main tag page is not so bad as long as we define all those tag in that page. like 'community project' is missing | 18:59 |
fungi | gmann: it links to https://bestpractices.coreinfrastructure.org/en/projects/246' | 18:59 |
fungi | er, without my mistyped extra ' on the end of course | 19:00 |
fungi | a linux foundation effort to identify open source projects with reasonable testing standards | 19:00 |
fungi | er, reasonable community standards i mean | 19:01 |
gmann | i see, and that is given to all openstack governed projects as openstack governance make sure each project under them satisfy the criteria. we should link that to out tag page also | 19:02 |
gmann | s/out/our | 19:03 |
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fungi | well, it's not a governance tag | 19:06 |
fungi | it's just a "badge" | 19:06 |
gmann | true but if all tags are linked to same page then we can just include ref of it | 19:13 |
gmann | i mean all badge are linked.. | 19:14 |
fungi | well, except that having that link at all makes the more specific links in the svg files completely useless | 19:17 |
fungi | may as well drop the in-image link targets if nobody is ever going to be able to click them | 19:17 |
fungi | (due to the outer html level link) | 19:18 |
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