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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Add repo: devstack-plugin-open-cas https://review.opendev.org/711902 | 07:30 |
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| ttx | o/ | 09:15 |
| ttx | how is everyone holding up? | 09:15 |
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| evrardjp | fine, you? | 09:18 |
| evrardjp | family ok? | 09:18 |
| ttx | so far so good. | 09:18 |
| evrardjp | wait, are you talking about work pressure, or covid19? :p | 09:19 |
| ttx | What is the current situation in Belgium? | 09:19 |
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| evrardjp | the short story is that ppl can still go to work, but they can't meet and have fun | 09:45 |
| evrardjp | cinema, restaurants, pubs, are closed. | 09:45 |
| evrardjp | public transport is discouraged | 09:45 |
| evrardjp | home working is encouraged depending on the company | 09:45 |
| evrardjp | schools are closed | 09:46 |
| evrardjp | more or less | 09:46 |
| evrardjp | during the week-end, only necessity shops are open: food, pharmacies, etc. | 09:46 |
| ttx | OK so that is where we were on Thursday | 09:47 |
| evrardjp | ttx: do you have results from your elections? I suppose not many went to vote | 09:47 |
| evrardjp | yeah we didn't change things since last week | 09:48 |
| evrardjp | afaik | 09:48 |
| ttx | France does to full-lockdown at noon. You need to justify being out | 09:48 |
| evrardjp | The king gave us a speech | 09:48 |
| ttx | Our king did too | 09:49 |
| evrardjp | lol | 09:49 |
| ttx | elections went well, in small villages people still went out to vote | 09:50 |
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| evrardjp | what does full lockdown mean? Will there be army in the streets? How will you deal with food and stuff? :p | 09:59 |
| ttx | army and police in the streets, yes. You can self-attest that you're on your way to buy food :) | 10:06 |
| tosky | oh, you basically copied what we have in Italy | 10:27 |
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| njohnston|afk | o/ | 12:47 |
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| gmann | o/ | 13:12 |
| gmann | ttx: oh, take care of yourself and your family. | 13:13 |
| smcginnis | The US is heading that direction, but not quite there yet. | 13:39 |
| smcginnis | Then there's these kinds of people - https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/03/11/south-florida-spring-break-visitors-not-phased-by-coronavirus-concerns/ | 13:39 |
| * smcginnis mumbles something about natural selection | 13:39 | |
| fungi | the vacation rental companies here on the island are running advertisements encouraging tourists to take advantage of the time off work and school closures to wait out the quarantine frolicking on the beach. residents are petitioning the local government to put a stop to that, call a mandatory nonresident evacuation, and set up police checkpoints on the bridges. tensions are rising | 13:41 |
| fungi | christine went to the grocery store yesterday, said it was packed but that most of the license plates in the parking lot were from out of state | 13:42 |
| fungi | if all these visitors get sick we're going to have serious problems... there's just one small hospital with no intensive care unit. we normally fly serious medical cases out by helicopter | 13:44 |
| ttx | smcginnis: unfortunately natural selection won;t work there. By exposing themselves, they will just kill other people | 13:56 |
| ttx | Be like Estonia https://twitter.com/visitestonia/status/1238885142237773838 | 13:56 |
| smcginnis | ttx: Very true. They won't be the ones impacted. It will be the ones avoiding this type of situation that they spread it to. | 13:59 |
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| mordred | fungi: yeah - I was talking to tyrian last night and he was saying y'all were having spring break morons showing up. I mean - on the surface, going to the beach and staying holed up in a house looking at the ocean and playing in the ocean would bea. great quarantine - as long as you knew you were clean | 16:27 |
| mordred | and as long as you ACTUALLY didn't interact with other people at all | 16:27 |
| mordred | but - you kinow - none of those pre-conditions are valid | 16:27 |
| fungi | yup. and as of just a few minutes ago they've announced they're going to stop letting tourists come in over the bridges | 16:30 |
| fungi | apparently doesn't apply to nonresident property owners (yet), but it's a good start | 16:31 |
| mordred | disallowing nonresident property owners seems a bit more legally challenging | 16:32 |
| clarkb | the island (whole country actually) my parents live on isolated itself very early via presidential order. More recently congress overruled the president and reopened the borders (they had closed them to citizens even, no one in at all). Now a few days later they have their first suspected case | 16:32 |
| clarkb | those preconditions are so completely invalid | 16:33 |
| mordred | yup | 16:33 |
| fungi | mordred: we do it during hurricanes. residents are allowed to reenter before nonresident property owners are | 16:34 |
| mordred | fungi: cool - so there's existing precedent and should be non-shocking to those owners | 16:35 |
| fungi | right, everyone has to apply for permits and show them at the roadblocks. it's a ~frequently enacted procedure here | 16:35 |
| fungi | the idea is that you try to limit the population emergency services need to support to people who don't have somewhere else to live | 16:36 |
| mordred | yeah. which makes total sense - and is the actual same problem we face currently | 16:38 |
| fungi | during tourist season we import a large seasonal workforce to handle them. having a 10x swell in local population when most of the restaurants and attractions are closed, shops are running on reduced hours, et cetera... recipe for making the current disaster far worse | 16:40 |
| fungi | and rental companies trying to use the current panic to turn a profit is somewhere between unconscionable and criminal | 16:41 |
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